Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
Rubick:
I agree this is going into one of QC's more momentous phases. The ground work for a lot of this have been laid down for a very, very long time.
I do fear how far Faye could fall, though.
greywolfe:
I think everyone honestly saw that one coming.
Fenriswolf:
What makes me twitch about this comic is not whether or not Dora made the right decision. My feeling is probably. What I don't like is the out of hand "you're fired". In NZ (and Australlia, I'm sure) we do not have the right to fire people whenever we feel like it, and while intoxication may be cause for immediate termination you would still have to have a sit down meeting and a discussion with paperwork.
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* Any relevant provisions in the employment agreement must be followed
* An employee has the right to be told what the problem is and that disciplinary action is a possibility.
* The employee should be advised that they have the right to have a representative present at a disciplinary meeting.
* The employee must then be given a genuine opportunity to respond with their side of the story before the employer decides what to do.
* The employer should investigate any allegations of misconduct thoroughly and in a manner that is impartial and without being influenced by irrelevant issues.
* Generally speaking, the employee should be given clear standards to aim for and a genuine opportunity to improve. However, some forms of misconduct may be deemed so serious, that it can warrant instant dismissal. What constitutes this sort of misconduct may be set out in the employment agreement.
http://www.dol.govt.nz/workplace/knowledgebase/item/1297
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I absolutely despise the casual manner by which Dora was able to fire Faye, and that it doesn't raise any eyebrows. Especially since it seems the QC-verse has the same situation as the modern day US with no real public healthcare and likely limited unemployment benefits.
It makes my skin crawl, frankly, and makes me sad that in a generally more liberal imagining of the US you're still completely at the mercy of your employer. (Whether or not Faye deserves to lose her job it utterly irrelevant this point.)
Edit to fix random tags.
Rubick:
--- Quote from: Fenriswolf on 20 Jan 2015, 16:02 ---What makes me twitch about this comic is not whether or not Dora made the right decision. My feeling is probably. What I don't like is the out of hand "you're fired". In NZ (and Australlia, I'm sure) we do not have the right to fire people whenever we feel like it, and while intoxication may be cause for immediate termination you would still have to have a sit down meeting and a discussion with paperwork.
--- Quote ---
* Any relevant provisions in the employment agreement must be followed
* An employee has the right to be told what the problem is and that disciplinary action is a possibility.
* The employee should be advised that they have the right to have a representative present at a disciplinary meeting.
* The employee must then be given a genuine opportunity to respond with their side of the story before the employer decides what to do.
* The employer should investigate any allegations of misconduct thoroughly and in a manner that is impartial and without being influenced by irrelevant issues.
* Generally speaking, the employee should be given clear standards to aim for and a genuine opportunity to improve. However, some forms of misconduct may be deemed so serious, that it can warrant instant dismissal. What constitutes this sort of misconduct may be set out in the employment agreement.
http://www.dol.govt.nz/workplace/knowledgebase/item/1297
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I absolutely despise the casual manner by which Dora was able to fire Faye, and that it doesn't raise any eyebrows. Especially since it seems the QC-verse has the same situation as the modern day US with no real public healthcare and likely limited unemployment benefits.
It makes my skin crawl, frankly, and makes me sad that in a generally more liberal imagining of the US you're still completely at the mercy of your employer. (Whether or not Faye deserves to lose her job it utterly irrelevant this point.)
Edit to fix random tags.
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While I would be tempted to agree, I can't help but feel that the immediateness of it is more of a 'comic flow' thing than 'QC universe works like this'.
ASB84:
--- Quote from: Fenriswolf on 20 Jan 2015, 16:02 ---What makes me twitch about this comic is not whether or not Dora made the right decision. My feeling is probably. What I don't like is the out of hand "you're fired". In NZ (and Australlia, I'm sure) we do not have the right to fire people whenever we feel like it, and while intoxication may be cause for immediate termination you would still have to have a sit down meeting and a discussion with paperwork.
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It does come off a bit like George Jetson Job Security, and I can confirm that it's more or less the same in Australia, with sit-down meetings, warnings, notice, and all that. However, employers do have ways around that, and can immediately fire people/make them redundant. Granted, there's usually a sit-down meeting, but...well, is Faye in any condition for that?
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