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WCDT: 2878-2882 (19-23 January 2015)
Somnus Eternus:
--- Quote from: Devlosirrus on 21 Jan 2015, 07:54 ---
--- Quote from: bhtooefr on 21 Jan 2015, 05:26 ---Not only that, but it's generally considered best practice for employers to not say anything about an employee's performance, only that they did work there. Otherwise, they're opened up to a lawsuit.
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Not technically true. Employers are free to say whatever they'd like to someone calling for a reference, they just need to have documents to back it up. I've given several people extremely shitty references, with very specific examples of their shitty behavior. However, before I did so, I made sure that I had signed disciplinary documents to prove it. If you say something bad about someone and can't prove it, then you could be sued.
Weird thing to post about, I know. This thread just has me feeling that managerial feel.
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For the most part, when I'd terminate I'd give vague, lukewarm-positive responses to any questions other employers asked me because I didn't see the point in screwing them out of another job. I'd just never tell them whether we terminated or they did.
Except when they'd get fired for something so beyond the pale, and then have the audacity to file for wrongful termination with the state (which happened twice, with two different employees). Then I'd get out the employee file and had fun.
Devlosirrus:
--- Quote from: Somnus Eternus on 21 Jan 2015, 08:50 ---For the most part, when I'd terminate I'd give vague, lukewarm-positive responses to any questions other employers asked me because I didn't see the point in screwing them out of another job. I'd just never tell them whether we terminated or they did.
Except when they'd get fired for something so beyond the pale, and then have the audacity to file for wrongful termination with the state (which happened twice, with two different employees). Then I'd get out the employee file and had fun.
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Oh yeah, sure. If it was a situation wherein they just didn't work out, then I'd certainly give a positive reference. I've had to fire several employees who worked out perfectly at a different business down the street. Some people just aren't suited for certain jobs, it's nothing to get mad about. However, I have had some employees who were either constantly coming in hung over or otherwise impaired, had a piss-poor attitude and work ethic, or were stealing controlled substances, and I'm not nearly as forgiving with those kinds of infractions. This was at an emergency vet clinic, bee tea dubs, so we took that kind of shit very seriously.
ReindeerFlotilla:
--- Quote from: Markus Ramikin on 21 Jan 2015, 07:03 ---RF: I don't really wanna dig more into the unseemly things you're doing to words like "axiom" and "truth", so let's get back to the actual situation we were discussing, and see if we disagree about anything of substance.
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Don't go casting aspersions on the way I use words. Either point out what is wrong, in your opinion, or keep it civil. Calling my use "unseemly" isn't civil. If you feel I've impugned upon you honor or something, come out with it or call a mod.
--- Quote from: Markus Ramikin on 21 Jan 2015, 07:03 ---(Assuming that in hindsight the reasons for firing Faye look sound to her, and according to her best judgement that decision remains the correct one.)
Whether or not we'd agree to define the word guilt this way, are we in disagreement about my actual meaning here?
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At this point you appear to be waliking back you original declaration that Dora should declare "I'm not going to feel bad about this." In that case, no. But you seemed to want dig into the concepts, not argue the point. If you want to declare one of us is the winner, I'm not playing that game.
--- Quote from: Markus Ramikin on 21 Jan 2015, 07:03 ---
--- Quote ---Guilt is not a bad thing, in itself. I guess. It would be weird if most of humanity was wired for a pathological response.
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We are. For more than one. The human brain is a horrible kludge. I'm sorry.
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Pathological: involving, caused by, or of the nature of a physical or mental disease.
Disease: a disorder of structure or function in a human, animal, or plant, especially one that produces specific signs or symptoms or that affects a specific location and is not simply a direct result of physical injury.
It would be weird if humanity were wired for mental disease. Kludged as it is, Kludged is the way it supposed to function.
A Duck:
As BenRG said in the previous page, I think a timeskip might be in order really soon.
Faye's situation will not be resolved anytime soon, in comic time. A timeskip allows her to work out her issues without the "Faye's alcohol problems" arc dragging for YEARS in real time. It would be really weird if Jeph resolved the whole thing in a few days, comic time, even if that took months or years real time.
And that also has the bonus of allowing Marten and Claire to live a happy relationship for some time, just as Dora has the same opportunity, without having any drama.
I can see the whole group falling apart due to Faye's problems, for a while at least.
With Alice Grove slowly taking off... I wonder how far we are from QC's end o_O
drmike:
--- Quote from: Somnus Eternus on 21 Jan 2015, 08:50 ---Except when they'd get fired for something so beyond the pale, and then have the audacity to file for wrongful termination with the state (which happened twice, with two different employees). Then I'd get out the employee file and had fun.
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Places I have worked, even if we had the documentation to prove it, we weren't allowed to give reason or explanation. You may have been able to back it up but the former employee could still file a lawsuit and that would mean money being spent fighting it.
Just to mention, there appears to be an issue with the website.
Starting on the home page: http://questionablecontent.net/
Click on the previous link you get Comic 2878. It doesn't go back to 2879.
From 2879, click on the next link and you just get a reload.
if this has been reported previously, please excuse me but I don;t see a mention of it.
thanks
-drmike
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