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The Domesticity of Marten, Faye, Claire and Pintsize

8 (9.6%)

The Talk, Phase 2

10 (12%)

Faye meets Keeper Hannelore

6 (7.2%)

Sam: "Come on! I need your help!"

1 (1.2%)

Dora Does Guilt-Trip

24 (28.9%)

Tai has no boudaries about employees' personal lives

13 (15.7%)

Clinton and Emily's "date" (because that's still happening, AFAIK)

21 (25.3%)

Total Members Voted: 76

Voting closed: 18 Feb 2015, 08:09

[cesium133]

It's possible that Angus might have only been gone for a few days at this stage. He's probably still working on material for the show.

Well, judging by AprilArcus's most recent timeline, it's been less than a week.  1811 was on Monday, Faye's firing and hospital stay were on Thursday/Friday, and today is Saturday, I think?  Angus is supposed to start "next week," so by Monday night Faye might have a rude awakening...although, is there even a TV in the apartment? 

Proof of TV:  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1674

If there were no TV, how could Marten be horrified by Woodrow?

[mustang6172]

So did Dora put in blue contacts b/n panels 3 and 4?

I was wondering the same thing.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

[Truec]

I can't quite tell, is Dora denying that she's rationalizing her decision, or just pointing out that she's rationalizing to herself?

[TheEvilDog]

Also, isn't it kind of unprofessional to discuss the termination of one employee with another?

No doubt Penelope probably heard about Faye being hospitalised or was wondering why Faye was taken off the roster. So she could either go straight to the horse's mouth and ask Dora what happened, or talk to Faye and get her (most likely) skewed take on the matter. And let's face it, Penelope...not Faye's biggest fan.

This also opens up the possibility of Penelope becoming the new assistant manager, as she is now the most senior person there after Dora. Although now that could mean a new strain on Dora; she's somewhat reticent on hiring people at times and this thing with Faye is a breach of trust, might just kick Dora's tendency to be overly controlling into overdrive. More hours to work to cover Faye being fired, taking on yet more work onto herself, Dora is going to suffer as much as Faye.

[Vemocleus]

Damn, late to the Dora blue eyes "change happens" joke.  Next time, precious.... next time.

[TheEvilDog]

I guess you folks could say she turned her brown eye blue.

 

[Omega Entity]

I can't quite tell, is Dora denying that she's rationalizing her decision, or just pointing out that she's rationalizing to herself?

She's pointing out that she's rationalizing it to herself, and not Penny.

[Gladstone]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

[Half Empty Coffee Cup]

I took the liberty of fixing todays comic.

(click to show/hide)

Reminds me of Garfield Minus Garfield.

[cesium133]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

[jwhouk]

I guess you folks could say she turned her brown eye blue.

 

She's going to grow her hair out again?

[Omega Entity]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

Is it really necessary to be so pesomistic? I mean, I know we yen for some development on the Dora front, but we don't have to expect a pile of emotional ruble.

[cesium133]

It could be worse. She could turn into Pintsize, have cake batter for dinar, then ramble on about colóns and dongs.

[Gladstone]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

Is it really necessary to be so pesomistic? I mean, I know we yen for some development on the Dora front, but we don't have to expect a pile of emotional ruble.

That's it, Euro-ver your limit.  Dough not make me throw the buck at you.

[Omega Entity]

It could be worse. She could turn into Pintsize, have cake batter for dinar, then ramble on about colóns and dongs.

I'd be florin it to get out of there before she went out of her gourde 

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

Is it really necessary to be so pesomistic? I mean, I know we yen for some development on the Dora front, but we don't have to expect a pile of emotional ruble.

That's it, Euro-ver your limit.  Dough not make me throw the buck at you.

Get rial! I'll shekel you harder than a bad balboa impression!

[Is it cold in here?]

It's the effect of the pastries from The Secret Bakery.

"Donut make those brown eyes blue", as the song goes.

[jmucchiello]

Boo, hiss. Dora should not be suffering second thoughts.

[Gladstone]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

Is it really necessary to be so pesomistic? I mean, I know we yen for some development on the Dora front, but we don't have to expect a pile of emotional ruble.

That's it, Euro-ver your limit.  Dough not make me throw the buck at you.

Get rial! I'll shekel you harder than a bad balboa impression!

You think you're pfennig, dontcha? 

[Orkboy]

Also, isn't it kind of unprofessional to discuss the termination of one employee with another?

Eh, maybe, but CoD is a remarkably informal workplace, as evidenced by things like chair-jousting.

[Mr. Black Licorice]

I took the liberty of fixing todays comic.

(click to show/hide)

ala Garfield Minus Garfield? http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/page/14

Edit: Damn it - Someone said it before me. Should have read the whole thread first.

[SubaruStephen]

You can't title a comic "Change Happens" and casually bring penny back. That's just asking to be nickeled and dimed with bad puns.

Well, Dora already gave no quarter when she fired Faye, and she's not throwing good money after bad.

To be franc, Dora has to get real about Faye's firing, and Faye will just have to pound on doors to find a new job.

Is it really necessary to be so pesomistic? I mean, I know we yen for some development on the Dora front, but we don't have to expect a pile of emotional ruble.

That's it, Euro-ver your limit.  Dough not make me throw the buck at you.

Get rial! I'll shekel you harder than a bad balboa impression!

You think you're pfennig, dontcha?

Man, the puns are flying like a baht outta hell.

[ASB84]

Dora's uneasiness and attempts to rationalise firing Faye make perfect sense, and I think demonstrates that she's not some terrible person who's completely lacking in caring, sympathy, or empathy. She was justified in her decision, but it doesn't make it any easier or pleasant. The logic and the rationale has to compete with the emotion.

Frankly, such internal conflict is bound to have an effect on the body, like changing one's eye colour.

[TRVA123]

Cod is also a very small workplace.

I don't know as much about workplace policy and liability when it comes to an employee being fired, but I feel like it is a good idea to tell the other employees why someone was fired. It helps establish clear consequences for certain behaviours, squelches rumors, and reassures the employees that they won't be fired without just cause.

[Orkboy]

ala Garfield Minus Garfield? http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/page/14

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, that's depressing.

[Mr. Black Licorice]

ala Garfield Minus Garfield? http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/page/14

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, that's depressing.

Isn't it, though? I thought it fit the theme of today's strip.

[Neko_Ali]

I see that it's Dora's turn to play Voice of the Forums.

[Mr. Black Licorice]

Cod is also a very small workplace.

I don't know as much about workplace policy and liability when it comes to an employee being fired, but I feel like it is a good idea to tell the other employees why someone was fired. It helps establish clear consequences for certain behaviours, squelches rumors, and reassures the employees that they won't be fired without just cause.

It might be good for the work place, but it isn't good from a legal stand point... which is why most companies are completely silent on these types of matters.

[Beroli]

Not to you, Penelope--to herself. Poor Dora.

...Never mind Dora's eyes, why does Penelope have orange hair?

[TRVA123]

Cod is also a very small workplace.

I don't know as much about workplace policy and liability when it comes to an employee being fired, but I feel like it is a good idea to tell the other employees why someone was fired. It helps establish clear consequences for certain behaviours, squelches rumors, and reassures the employees that they won't be fired without just cause.

It might be good for the work place, but it isn't good from a legal stand point... which is why most companies are completely silent on these types of matters.

What could happen, from a legal standpoint?

[CaptainFish]

Not to you, Penelope--to herself. Poor Dora.

...Never mind Dora's eyes, why does Penelope have orange hair?

Yeah I noticed it big time. I almost wondered if it was Cosette for a second cause she's had bright orange hair like that in strips before.

Looking back made me miss the hair texture stuff Jeph used to do.

[Mr. Black Licorice]

Cod is also a very small workplace.

I don't know as much about workplace policy and liability when it comes to an employee being fired, but I feel like it is a good idea to tell the other employees why someone was fired. It helps establish clear consequences for certain behaviours, squelches rumors, and reassures the employees that they won't be fired without just cause.

It might be good for the work place, but it isn't good from a legal stand point... which is why most companies are completely silent on these types of matters.

What could happen, from a legal standpoint?

Sued for defamation of character.

[Orkboy]

So, out of curiosity, who still mentally pronounces Penelope like antelope?

[TheEvilDog]

Cod is also a very small workplace.

I don't know as much about workplace policy and liability when it comes to an employee being fired, but I feel like it is a good idea to tell the other employees why someone was fired. It helps establish clear consequences for certain behaviours, squelches rumors, and reassures the employees that they won't be fired without just cause.

It might be good for the work place, but it isn't good from a legal stand point... which is why most companies are completely silent on these types of matters.

What could happen, from a legal standpoint?

Sued for defamation of character.

Defamation of Character is when the information is false. However Faye was fired for drinking on the job and is completely true.

[TRVA123]

Sued for defamation of character.

huh, really? even if it is true? :edit: ninja'd by The Evil Dog

I could see a problem if Dora were telling people not involved, but other employees are directly affected by the situation and deserve to know what is going on. I could see an exception if, say, Faye had sexually assaulted someone and there would be an upcoming court case. But a court case seems unlikely here.

[jwhouk]

Lat's knock it off with the money puns. It's depreciating.

[Is it cold in here?]

So, out of curiosity, who still mentally pronounces Penelope like antelope?

Whenever possible!

[Half Empty Coffee Cup]

Lat's knock it off with the money puns. It's depreciating.

Really? I thought it was collecting our interest.

[Rghfrgl]

Looking back made me miss the hair texture stuff Jeph used to do.

It didn't stand out too much for most characters, but I miss Claire's magic hair so much.

As for Pene-lope's hair, I blame Alice.

[ysth]

And the tip of Dora's iceberg of guilt emerges from the water...

[vforvancouver]

So, out of curiosity, who still mentally pronounces Penelope like antelope?

Well, being bilingual, I have problems pronouncing everybody's names in my mind. I tend to pronounce names and numbers in Spanish. Numbers are an issue because I pronounce them in Spanish while talking English, as in "I need the sieves for gravel gradation, number cuatro to tres inches, please."

Therefore, I render Penny's name as "Penélope", which rhymes with, but doesn't sound exactly as "Antílope". Four syllables each, no silent E, last E in Penelope sounds like the first E, second E is stressed.

[Consilium]

re: the dora/pen conversation

I don't know. If I were Faye and I found out Dora was talking about my situation like that (especially with how it ended up), I'd be rather embarrassed. It's kind of a betrayal of trust, not between coworkers but between friends. And face it, Faye and Pen aren't exactly close. Information that intimate is pretty need-to-know and despite the stress Dora is going through (and DOES have a right to vent!), I don't feel Pen should be privy to it. I may be projecting myself onto Faye here, though, but she has gotten embarrassed about this very subject in the past.

As for pronouncing Pen's name, I've always heard the last three syllables pronounced as letters: "eL - Oh - Pee." But then again, I've always seen Marten spelled "Martin."

[Omega Entity]

I think just about everyone's aware of how Penelope is supposed to be pronounced. It's just a callback to Faye's preferred pronunciation (Pen-Ah-lope).

[bloodswan]

As for pronouncing Pen's name, I've always heard the last three syllables pronounced as letters: "eL - Oh - Pee." But then again, I've always seen Marten spelled "Martin."

Well that's fine since it's technically the proper way to pronounce it. Mentally rhyming it with or pronouncing it like antelope is because of the strip linked earlier where Faye is doing it to get on Pen's nerves (strip 725 to be exact). It's a hard habit to break if you get into it.

(And ninja-ed by Omega. Oh well. Great start to coming out of permanent lurkerdom)

[Indicible]

Pénélope... Pen-Eh-Low-Pe. (low is short, though).

Oh, well.
In any case, Dora is right about every point she has made. It does not sit well with her, though. Why do I have the feeling she is snapping at Penelope?

[hedgie]

I just think of her as Pen-Pen

[Somnus Eternus]

I just think of her as Pen-Pen

[BenRG]

Poor Dora! It's usually a bad sign regarding your confidence in your decisions if you keep on ranting about why you are right to others who haven't even implied that you are wrong! At least Dora is sane enough (in a somewhat meta way) to be actually aware that she's doing it!

Who said I was rationalising it to you?

That my favourite QC quote of recent times. It demonstrates the sometimes-scary level of self-awareness that the characters sometimes show.

FWIW, I can see nothing wrong with Penny's hair. She looks the same as when we last saw her, AFAIK.

Finally... If Penny is made assistant manager, I'd like for Faye to give her the badge. This would symbolise no hard feelings, that Faye has moved on and serve as one last bit of emotional abuse by guilt trip of her former coworkers (and thus in-character for Faye). It would be made funny if Dora and Penny called her on it and she retreated whilst laughing.

[Endellion]

Lat's knock it off with the money puns. It's depreciating.

Really? I thought it was collecting our interest.

The more of them we have would cause an inflation on the number of pages in the WCDT.

On discussing the reason why a person was fired...probably depends on the place you're working. I've only noticed one person getting fired...or rather him disappearing from the office. When I eventually asked I was told that he was dismissed for gross misconduct and that was all I was allowed to hear.

[NilsO]

Also, isn't it kind of unprofessional to discuss the termination of one employee with another?

Well, Dora has to give some explanation, otherwise there will be endless speculation and concern. "She quit" is probably not good enough, as usually this is not an abrupt thing. "I had to fire her", without further explanation, should be sufficient. But "she was drunk at work" is decidedly unprofessional. It is Dora's damned duty not to spread rumors about former employees.