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Star Wars: Episode VIII
Thrillho:
That still sounds to me like my point stands - that you are saying that because your own objections are not misogynistic, then nobody's are.
Neko_Ali:
Some people do have legitimate issues with the movie over writing, some complain that it's not what they were expecting and yes some do complain over sexist or racist issues. There is never just one opinion on everything.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 09 Jan 2018, 06:53 ---That still sounds to me like my point stands - that you are saying that because your own objections are not misogynistic, then nobody's are.
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Then I'm can't be making myself very clear. (Sorry.)
I have no doubt that a small (VERRRRYYYY small) number of people may view it that way.
But I *do* I doubt VERY much that it's the big deal this article seems to make out that it is because I have seen NO-ONE making any of the points that article makes...
And I've actually looked.
But no, none of the above is what I am trying to say.
Just to my mind that those who (apparently) ARE saying it's misogynistic are idiots.
But those saying "Why Men hate this..." are also idiots. (Maybe it just comes down to "NOT ALL MEN!" ?? But if it is, it's the worst example I've ever seen of it.)
Tova:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 09 Jan 2018, 08:49 ---But I *do* I doubt VERY much that it's the big deal this article seems to make out that it is because I have seen NO-ONE making any of the points that article makes...
And I've actually looked.
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Yeah, well. I thought no-one was making the claims you're complaining about. And yet you're making a very big deal out of that. So, I'd be careful in drawing conclusions. Yes, I've been reading reactions around the place (admittedly not comprehensively). Maybe the proximity of this film's release with the Tilly story has made me utterly fascinated with the kind of angry reaction we've seen towards both.
So, obviously you disliked the film. Actually, you spend so much denying you hate it, I wonder if you protest too much. It's fine if you hated it, it's fine if you disliked it. It's a pity that you felt unable to say so explicitly. My impression is that you disliked the film due to its numerous plot holes and inconsistencies. Is this very roughly correct?
This is one article about the backlash that I have retained. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/12/18/16791844/star-wars-last-jedi-backlash-controversy
You will note that one of several reasons for the backlash noted (the very first, as they are ordered from least to most significant reasons) is that the film is "too progressive." That specific backlash is out there. Not here, but I've seen it around. You can't discuss the backlash without at least noting it. But it's also obvious that different people disliked the film for different reasons.
Tova:
While I'm at it, I'll put this one up for reactions as well. A post in another thread brought this article to mind.
The ‘Last Jedi’ backlash provides a useful primer in how not to watch a movie
Try not to get too upset at the provocative title. :wink:
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