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Who will be the second couple to get married in the regular cast?

Jim and Veronica
- 28 (49.1%)
Wil and Penelope
- 7 (12.3%)
Dale and Marigold
- 1 (1.8%)
Marten and Claire
- 4 (7%)
Dora and Tai
- 2 (3.5%)
Some combination of Brun, Clinton, and Elliot
- 3 (5.3%)
Argyle argon argonaut
- 2 (3.5%)
Steve and Cosette
- 10 (17.5%)

Total Members Voted: 57

Voting closed: 16 Jun 2018, 19:02


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WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« on: 09 Jun 2018, 18:35 »

I don't have a witty poll for this week, so if one of the mods wants to have at it, go for it.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #1 on: 09 Jun 2018, 19:04 »

I didn't vote for them but Jim and Veronica seem like likely candidates.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #2 on: 09 Jun 2018, 20:31 »

Barry and the moose.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #3 on: 10 Jun 2018, 00:44 »

I voted Jim and Veronica, but Wil & Penelope is probably very close after. And then Steve and Cosette. Which wasn't an alternative BTW. They might even be more likely to get married actually, though not necessarily first.

[edit] S&C have since been added to the poll. And fixed spelling. [/edit]
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #4 on: 10 Jun 2018, 01:03 »

You need to add 'Steve and Cossette'. I'm also expecting them to be the first named characters in the strip to become new parents.

Lacking that option, Jim and Veronica are the next most likely to wed, IMO.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #5 on: 10 Jun 2018, 04:40 »

Parents? It's important to remember that while this comic has been running for 15 years, comic time and real time are very different.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #6 on: 10 Jun 2018, 06:02 »

I added Steve and Cosette. Let me know if anything goes wrong with the poll. I have a vague memory that the forum software does something to punish you for editing a poll but I don't remember what.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #7 on: 10 Jun 2018, 06:52 »

The penalty is usually having to reset all votes, IIRC.

Even though I voted for Jim and Veronica, I suspect that they're not going to go through the marriage thing. It doesn't really make sense for either one, and they're both at that age when it doesn't matter.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #8 on: 10 Jun 2018, 14:04 »

Barry and the moose.
You kid, but it would seem that that's technically legal in Denmark.
The Danes are super chill people.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #9 on: 10 Jun 2018, 16:59 »

Wait, who was the first couple to get married?
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #10 on: 10 Jun 2018, 17:28 »

Marten's dad and Maurice.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #11 on: 10 Jun 2018, 17:32 »

Wait, who was the first couple to get married?
Henry (Marten's Dad) Reed and Maurice.

Steve and Cosette have been married for some time but didn't want to make any kind of production out of it.  (IRL that would not be out of character at all for a former government spook.  I don't think we've been told what Steve does for a living, so he may still be in The Game, just not playing as a field agent anymore.)

They may not have even told Jeph.  That or he and Tortura were the witnesses and have been sworn to secrecy.  Jeph, not being a fool, doesn't want Tortura to slit his throat, feed him to pigs. 
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #13 on: 10 Jun 2018, 18:20 »

I've been taking utterly for granted that they will be the first and that the poll would have to be about the second.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #14 on: 10 Jun 2018, 18:58 »

OH!! I didn't consider Marten's dad and stepdad to be part of the "regular" cast. I miss them, I wish they'd come back. It seems appropriate given the momentous getting together of Bubbles and Faye.

I bet Marten misses them, too.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #15 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:02 »

Comic's up.

Haven't we seen the shirt Bubbles is wearing, or one very like it, on Faye before?
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #16 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:04 »

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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #17 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:08 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #18 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:10 »

Bubbles, now that you and Faye are together, you need to work on not making Marten pee his pants every time you touch him. How about a nice, normal invention known as "the hug"?

Oh and psst--more evidence that AIs don't consider "robot" offensive.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #19 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:11 »

Comic's up.

Haven't we seen the shirt Bubbles is wearing, or one very like it, on Faye before?

My, aren't we observant.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #20 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:12 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #21 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:14 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

Yep, first thing I noticed was Faye's bearmonster shirt.

Faye's gonna look absolutely adorable swimming around in sweatshirts stolen from Bubbles... because in any relationship, the smaller partner inevitably steals half the larger partner's sweatshirts. And they look so adorable you can't steal them back...
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #22 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:21 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.

Faye is more than willing to sacrifice her favorite shirt for Bubbles.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #23 on: 10 Jun 2018, 19:23 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It'll never fit Faye again, then.

It will become a nightshirt.  Looseness is an advantage.
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« Reply #24 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:05 »

Yup, that's Faye's shirt.

It’s Bubbles’s shirt now.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #25 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:08 »

Oh and psst--more evidence that AIs don't consider "robot" offensive.

Context may matter: it's possibly Bubbles would take this less well from a stranger than her girlfriend.

Is it just me or does Marten seem sorta Winslow-esque in that first panel? I realize both he and Faye look more petite simply by contrast with Bubbles there, but something about his general stature and posture just looks more...boyish there.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #26 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:13 »

I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #27 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:15 »

Seeing Bubs in Faye’s shirt makes me wonder what Faye would look like wearing Bubbles’s armor.

(She’s already wearing Bubbles’s amoré :claireface:)
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #28 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:26 »

I'm pretty sure that racist, homophobic and ableist slurs wouldn't be okay from a lover or a friend, so I'm not sure that applies. If "robot" was an offensive term, it would definitely ruin their relationship.

I think we can agree that "robot" is not an offensive word.

I dunno bitch is a slur but friends call each other that sometimes. Context does matter though I'm incline to think that robot is not a slur in the QC verse.

As far as the poll goes, I'm pretty sure Jim and Veronica though if a long standing couple were to wed Steve and Cossette make sense and Penelope and Wil do too. Just seems like a big move for the "young" cast.

A pregnancy would be interesting and Cossette is main character enough for us to care and background enough for it to not break the comic.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #29 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:37 »

...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?
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« Reply #30 on: 10 Jun 2018, 20:44 »

...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?

maybe the baby will be good luck
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« Reply #31 on: 10 Jun 2018, 21:05 »

For the last week or so I've been thinking how fantastic it would be if Bubbles walked out of that room wearing Faye's shirt stretched almost to the breaking point. I never thought I'd actually see it. Here's what it felt like when I saw this strip.

I'm a kid again and I've seen the Micronauts Battle Cruiser in the Sears catalog and store sales flyers and whatever and I've been wanting the Micronauts Battle Cruiser for Christmas but never thought I'd actually get it, and now it's Christmas morning and OH MY GOD I GOT THE MICRONAUTS BATTLE CRUISER!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #32 on: 10 Jun 2018, 21:09 »

I found panel 2 interesting and well-constructed. Initially, I was amused by Bubble's "I am the robot girlfriend.", as if that needed any clarification, but then I realized she wouldn't have said that if Faye hadn't brought it up so indirectly ("I have a robot girlfriend", when she could have said "We're in a relationship"). Considering this further, it makes me think that Faye is probably still overwhelmed by this experience: to be in an unconventional relationship, especially when this is Faye's first close romantic relationship is probably in the front of her mind (Sven wasn't really a close relation, and I may misremember, but I got the general impression that she didn't have any romantic relationships before she met Marten because she was still processing her father's suicide). Especially with how long it has taken for her to recognize and identify her feelings towards Bubbles.

Then again, this may have just been the most natural way of communicating their relationship status to Marten, but it still got me thinking... maybe overthinking?
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #33 on: 10 Jun 2018, 21:09 »

...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?


My mind went back to Marigold's horrifying dream...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2874

As far as getting married I could see Marigold and Dale as one of those couples that never really bothers with it, even though they're completely committed to one another. Both are sort of... high inertia people.
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« Reply #34 on: 10 Jun 2018, 22:35 »

I'm a kid again and I've seen the Micronauts Battle Cruiser in the Sears catalog and store sales flyers and whatever and I've been wanting the Micronauts Battle Cruiser for Christmas but never thought I'd actually get it, and now it's Christmas morning and OH MY GOD I GOT THE MICRONAUTS BATTLE CRUISER!!!!!!!!!!



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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #35 on: 10 Jun 2018, 22:53 »

Welcome, new person!

Overthinking is one of our favorite activities.

Faye and Angus did break out the L-word.
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« Reply #36 on: 10 Jun 2018, 23:09 »

I voted Wil and Penelope since it seems like a tidy way to write them out.

Bubbles is definitely wearing Faye’s shirt, but I don’t know how it could fit unless she mistakenly ordered a 3X by mistake and never returned it.
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« Reply #37 on: 10 Jun 2018, 23:29 »

At some point, Bubbles is going to have to go into her 'settings' screen and move the 'Moral Intensity' slider down a little from it's current place at '11'. I mean, it's lovely the way she gets so passionate about things but, as we see here, it is possible to be too passionate and risk damaging your household Marten Reed.

It's nice the way Marten lets Faye and Bubbles take the lead though. He's got good reason to believe that the two have at least decided to be friends with benefits; maybe even a full relationship. However, he lets them decided how much they want to say to him. Compare that to, say, Dora, who'd likely offer a whole paragraph of innuendos and squeaky demands for 'details'. I'm not criticising Dora, I'm just saying that Marten seems to empathise better than her when it comes to dealing with friends in new and/or uncomfortable situations.

I have to say that, given the difference in size between Faye and Bubbles, brasca must be right about Faye having accidentally ordered an XXXL once and having never returned it. Her normal Angry Bear would be practically skin-tight on Bubbles!

...Cosette pregnant is a truly horrifying thought. 

Remember how accident prone she is?

That would be an actual part of the running joke. You'd never see her holding the baby; it would be either Steve or one of the other ladies. It will never be explicitly stated that she's only allowed to hold the baby when seated and surrounded by soft pillows but we'll be allowed to think that.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #38 on: 11 Jun 2018, 01:58 »

Probably time for one of the couple to find a new place. 4 Adults is too much for a two-bedroomed flat/apartment, imo.
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« Reply #39 on: 11 Jun 2018, 03:19 »

Not much to say about the comic otherwise, but... okay, comparing Marten's (positive) impact to the conference of Yalta kinda rubs me the wrong way, with me being Polish and all.

For those who don't know, the prevailing Polish sentiment about what happened in Yalta is basically "Poland got screwed over by the West and basically shoved into USSR's loving arms". It has the connotations of our nation's history being decided FOR us, with world superpowers dividing Europe as they saw fit, despite the fact that we were the first country to fight Nazi Germany and such.

I'm aware the political reality of the time was much more complex, but comparing something that led to Faye and Bubbles being a couple with what led to Poland being stuck as a Soviet satellite country for the next 40+ years...

...to me, the implications are troubling at best.

The comic's fine otherwise, but this part is just, UGH.

EDIT: not to mention the redrawing of Polish eastern border. Which is a much more complicated issue (what with the people living in pre-partition Eastern Poland being nations other than Poles, which Poland for the most part always failed to acknowledge), but with the end result being that those nations got swallowed whole into USSR... yeah, Yalta sucked for pretty much ALL of Eastern Europe.

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« Reply #40 on: 11 Jun 2018, 03:51 »

Well, you can't deny that the conference had an effect, which is probably all she was going for...
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« Reply #41 on: 11 Jun 2018, 03:54 »

Well, you can't deny that the conference had an effect, which is probably all she was going for...

I know, I'm not saying Bubbles is praising Yalta like this wonderful matchmaking ;)

I do think the comparison is... unfortunate on Jeph's part. I'm sure nothing was meant to be implied by it, but I can't help but read (unintentional) subtext into it.

I consider the use of Yalta as an example of "big event", within this context, to be a little tone-deaf.
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« Reply #42 on: 11 Jun 2018, 04:11 »

Fair enough; I can see it brings up unhappy thoughts.
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« Reply #43 on: 11 Jun 2018, 04:20 »

At the risk of thread derailment: I entirely understand and empathise with the feelings of the people of Central Europe who feel like their nations were thrown under the bus at Yalta. However, giving Stalin the 'security buffer zone' he demanded was probably the only thing that stopped World War 2 in Europe smoothly seguing into World War 3. This would probably have involved the US throwing every atom bomb it had, as soon as they were built, at Russia without any consideration for the secondary effects of a prolonged bombardment with first-generation 'dirty' fission devices would have on the Eurasian environment.

There is no doubt that Yalta, like Munich before it in 1938, was a bad deal for those people sacrificed like a pawn in a game of chess. However, I would say that there is an argument that it was the least worst option available to avert the prospect of the war in Europe (now between the UK, France and the USA and the Soviet Union) from lasting another 10 years.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #44 on: 11 Jun 2018, 04:36 »

At the risk of thread derailment: I entirely understand and empathise with the feelings of the people of Central Europe who feel like their nations were thrown under the bus at Yalta. However, giving Stalin the 'security buffer zone' he demanded was probably the only thing that stopped World War 2 in Europe smoothly seguing into World War 3. This would probably have involved the US throwing every atom bomb it had, as soon as they were built, at Russia without any consideration for the secondary effects of a prolonged bombardment with first-generation 'dirty' fission devices would have on the Eurasian environment.

There is no doubt that Yalta, like Munich before it in 1938, was a bad deal for those people sacrificed like a pawn in a game of chess. However, I would say that there is an argument that it was the least worst option available to avert the prospect of the war in Europe (now between the UK, France and the USA and the Soviet Union) from lasting another 10 years.

I think Yalta was in some ways a political inevitability. But for one thing, the inevitability is a cold comfort for all those who were thrown under the bus. And for another... the naive approach of Churchill and Roosevelt thinking they could trust a genocidal dictator who came to power by offing anyone who opposed him in his own political in-group... yeah, I know hindsight is 20/20, but I absolutely believe Yalta could have been handled better even from the purely pragmatic standpoint.

And again, what I mind is using Yalta in a comparison to something that changed people's life for the better, where everyone had agency and free choice. My doubts about Churchill's political wisdom (and moral character) are honestly secondary, here.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #45 on: 11 Jun 2018, 04:50 »

I was looking at panel 2 again and thinking about how Faye was stating everything in questions and not looking at Marten as if she was afraid of Marten's disapproval in some way. The implication is: "Are these the right things for me to say?" Then you get Marten's approval and, in panel 3, she's smiling in relief. It's quite beautiful in a way.

I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #46 on: 11 Jun 2018, 04:51 »

I voted Wil and Penelope since it seems like a tidy way to write them out.

Bubbles is definitely wearing Faye’s shirt, but I don’t know how it could fit unless she mistakenly ordered a 3X by mistake and never returned it.

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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #47 on: 11 Jun 2018, 05:04 »

I was looking at panel 2 again and thinking about how Faye was stating everything in questions and not looking at Marten as if she was afraid of Marten's disapproval in some way. The implication is: "Are these the right things for me to say?" Then you get Marten's approval and, in panel 3, she's smiling in relief. It's quite beautiful in a way.

I really do think that Faye is a messed-up kid and I really do think that she has serious problems with believing that others approve of her choices (or of her in general).

I read her as giving her statement a little sarcastically interrogative uplift, as if to say "Uh, obviously?" Of course this reading brings me to a similar place to yours. She's anxious and defensive, and she wants his approval.

I agree with what you said about her being messed up. I suspect that her primary challenge in the relationship will be overcoming her fears: that people will leave her, and that she is somehow responsible for them leaving. After Angus, that last one must loom large. She's going to have to reckon with it.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #48 on: 11 Jun 2018, 05:08 »

While the Battle Cruiser was indeed cool, I much preferred the mighty Hornetroid.  Not only was it a bug robot aircraft, the box art was done by Ken Kelly, who did album covers for Kiss and Manowar.

Oh wow, Hornetroid! I vividly remember the feeing of playing with that one. As a concept, it was amazing. As far as playing with it, though, I felt a big letdown, since all you could do with it was flap the wings and squirt water.
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Re: WCDT: 11-15 June 2018 (3761-3765)
« Reply #49 on: 11 Jun 2018, 06:05 »

Bubbles is looking very cute in Faye's shirt. I suppose it's her shirt now, because that stretch isn't coming out.
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