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TheEvilDog:
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--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 28 Nov 2019, 01:53 ---But we know he was with Yoda doing nothing BUT training for what, at least a year?
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We do? How do we know that? Sorry, not a hardcore fan here.
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There's a year between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. The general consensus is that when Luke recovered from his fight with Vader, he went back train with Yoda. Hence Luke's Jedi tricks at Jabba's palace.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 28 Nov 2019, 02:50 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 28 Nov 2019, 02:43 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 28 Nov 2019, 01:53 ---But we know he was with Yoda doing nothing BUT training for what, at least a year?
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We do? How do we know that? Sorry, not a hardcore fan here.
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There's a year between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. The general consensus is that when Luke recovered from his fight with Vader, he went back train with Yoda. Hence Luke's Jedi tricks at Jabba's palace.
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Additionally, there was the time Luke was on Dagobah in The Empire Strikes Back whilst the Falcon was going to Bespin at a relative crawl on its secondary hyperdrive (we're talking about Star Trek warp speeds here - hundreds of times of lightspeed instead of the hundreds of thousands of times of lightspeed given by the main hyperdrive). This would have meant that Luke had several weeks with Yoda, possibly a few months, before the Executor was called to Bespin.
As a side note, it increases my respect for Boba Fett that he was willing to devote that amount of time to following the Falcon and determining where the best place was to call in the Empire to pick up their fugitives.
Tova:
It sounds to me like Star Wars fans are a lot more willing to interpret events in a way that makes the original films make sense than they are the new ones.
Case:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 28 Nov 2019, 02:50 ---
--- Quote from: Tova on 28 Nov 2019, 02:43 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 28 Nov 2019, 01:53 ---But we know he was with Yoda doing nothing BUT training for what, at least a year?
--- End quote ---
We do? How do we know that? Sorry, not a hardcore fan here.
--- End quote ---
There's a year between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. The general consensus is that when Luke recovered from his fight with Vader, he went back train with Yoda. Hence Luke's Jedi tricks at Jabba's palace.
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First time I ever heard about that theory.
Legends lore covered that one year in detail in Shadows of the Empire - 'the Star Wars movie Lucas never made' - and had Luke & the gang mostly busy with searching the Galaxy for Han and the small matter of running a Rebellion. Luke trains some on his lonesome on Tatoine (after finding Ben's Journal(s), which wasn't originally in Shadows, I believe?), but receives no direct instruction from either Ben or Yoda during that year (Methinks that branch of lore sprang that famous deleted RoTJ scene of Luke building his green saber in Ben's hut). 'Shadows' was a fan favourite in the 90s and considered a solid part of canon ... well, before 'canon' became 'Legends'.
And (New) Canon lore is still largely mum about the period between ESB and RoTJ.
As to plausibility - it doesn't make much sense in either Universe's established canon. It opens a giant plot hole around the scene in which Luke asks Yoda about Vader being his father, and proceeds to angrily confront both Yoda and Ben about not-lying-just-not-telling-the-truth to him about the small matter of trying to trick him into offing his old man. That scene is a major plot point in RoTJ that would be cast into doubt by this theory - Luke re-evaluates his relationships to both his Father and Sister, and the decisions he arrives at due to the things he learns in that one scene drive a large part of the plot of the entire movie.
True, it's not impossible that Luke would spend a lot of time with Yoda before working up the courage to finally bring up the issue, but it's definitely not the impression given by the movie. Furthermore, Yoda makes a point of commenting on Luke's shock about the state of his health - it's implied that they haven't seen each other in quite a while. Yeah I know that people can fall apart in a matter of weeks, but Yoda isn't people, he's a grumpy, green nongentinarian alien who sustains himself on awful tea and his deep connection to the force.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Case on 28 Nov 2019, 04:17 ---Luke trains some on his lonesome on Tatoine (after finding Ben's Journal(s), which wasn't originally in Shadows, I believe?),
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Hence the "Jedi Guide For Dummies"
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