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The Mandalorian
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 19 Aug 2020, 05:25 ---Yeah, there are some top-notch stories in the EU and then there are some things that must have sounded great in the pitch meeting but never really worked out. Like the Ssi-Ruuk (the one-shot antagonists in Siege at Bakura), who were trailed as this super-villains who would make the Sith look like toddlers but were basically wiped out in one book. Then there is the Dark Empire spur timeline, the less about which I say the better other than this is the EU foundation for the Sequel Trilogy.
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 19 Aug 2020, 05:06 ---Then you get moments like the Lepi.
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Wait, did they get permission to use Bucky O'Hare?
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That was my first thought.
But, reading the article, seems the Lepi were precursors TO Bucky...!
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 28 Jul 2020, 23:05 ---If this rumour is borne out, the parallel rumour about the coming 'decanonisation' of the SW Sequel Trilogy may also be true.
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That makes no sense. Movies are top-tier canon. I get making Mandalorian a separate canon, but saying that Episodes VII-IX are somehow not canon is foolish.
TheEvilDog:
Ah....no. Movies aren't "top-tier canon". Movies, like any other form of media, are subject to their owners about what becomes canon and what gets put into a pile on the side of the road. After all, Disney paid billions for Star Wars, then decided to throw out 40 years of material because they wanted their own thing.
Now, don't get me wrong about the movies, they're certainly the first place people should look when they discuss canon. And they're certainly good for helping Disney do what it does best, make a fortune from the merchandising, but at the end of the day movies can be quietly forgotten about.
At the end of the day, Disney has far too much money invested in what is one of the most recognisable brands in history. Star Wars will always make them money (Solo being one of the exceptions). So no, Disney won't decanonise their trilogy, but they will let it wither away on the vine while they work on something else.
BenRG:
It should also be noted that, after the success of The Force Awakens in all its aspects, The Last Jedi did not follow its theatrical success with post-theatrical merchandising, theme park and home entertainment sales (nearly bankrupting chief toy licensee Hasbro in the process) and The Rise of Skywalker did even worse. Overall the Sequel Trilogy barely breaks even and this is mostly because of the increasingly ambivalent fan reaction to it. So, quietly forgetting the entire thing and going along a different post-Return of the Jedi path. to attempt to restore the franchise's profitability is entirely plausible.
The Mandelorian has been a rare unqualified Disney-era success story and it has been somewhat funny watching everyone at Lucasfilm, especially Ms Kennedy's inner circle, who disliked the show from its initial pitch, all claiming credit for it.
Tova:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 03 Sep 2020, 00:36 ---Ah....no. Movies aren't "top-tier canon".
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Now, don't get me wrong about the movies, they're certainly the first place people should look when they discuss canon.
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Isn't that precisely what Mr Madness meant by the phrase "top-tier canon"? That they are the first place people should look when they discuss [Star Wars] canon?
I get that you all hate VII - IX and would like that canon to be scrapped, but for now at least, this is where we are.
People place a little too much importance on what is canon and what isn't, in my opinion. I think I've ranted about this before. If there are stories you don't like, feel free to just ignore them. And love the Mandalorian - I certainly do. As Method says - they're separate stories, just like the newest films and the novels that came before them. There's no point in fighting over which of them 'really happened' because, you know, none of them really happened.
I truly hope to FSM that Disney never makes another story that hinges in some important way on the events of VII - IV. That story should be done.
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 03 Sep 2020, 00:36 ---And they're certainly good for helping Disney do what it does best, make a fortune from the merchandising,...
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I will never cease to be amused by this commonly made slam on Disney, as if Star Wars hasn't made a fortune from merchandising from the very beginning (as famously mocked by Spaceballs).
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