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WCDT strips 4381-4385 (Oct 26th to Oct 30th 2020)
Gnabberwocky:
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--- Quote from: Gyrre on 01 Nov 2020, 17:09 ---I blame Hollywood. There are so few stable/healthy relationships in movies and so SO many examples of sequels where the pair that get together in tbe first movie get broken up off screen just so they can retread the romantic subplot. Usually much to the detriment of the narrative.
Are there any examples other than The Mummy and The Mummy Returns where that doesn't happen?
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That is pretty much what I see in my social circle as well. People get into a relationship and it just... comes along. Sure, there are some squabbles and disagreements here and there, but for the most part things tend to be quite harmonious. Why does it have to be difficult to be real?
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For me, it's the lack of those squabbles and disagreements that make it unrealistic. Two for Dora/Tai (in over two thousand strips), one for Marten/Claire, none for Faye/Bubbles, one for Steve/Cosette (I don't really count them as a major pairing), one for Dale/Marigold. I have citations if you want them. The couples in QC agree on pretty much everything.
To be fair, I have literally zero relationship experience, so I'm not exactly an expert on this. Also, regardless of what happens on this front, the comic is still addictively fantastic and I'll read it anyway.
Farideh:
That is a good point. Then again, 'minor relationship squabbles' do not make for very entertaining comics, which might be one reason why Jeph doesn't portray them? That, and the sheer amount of storylines he has going on:
- Dora/Tai wedding
- Claire's jobhunting
- May's new chassis
- Roko's dissociative episodes
- Clinton/Elliot/Brun's romantic shenanigans
- and maybe some more that I can't think off right now
hedgie:
--- Quote from: Gnabberwocky on 01 Nov 2020, 18:03 ---To be fair, I have literally zero relationship experience, so I'm not exactly an expert on this. Also, regardless of what happens on this front, the comic is still addictively fantastic and I'll read it anyway.
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They can be messy, but that's 'cos they involve people, and that can always be a total disaster. I have been single for quite some time, but I only regret one past relationship, since she turned out to be a cheating psycho hosebeast who tried to sabotage my life for well over a year after we split up. My other exes, even those who were unfaithful were at least, at their core, good people, and I'm rather sad that I lost contact with most of them.
BlueFatima:
Hohoooo.... Minor relationship squabbles. Oh no. If you all believe that is all that happens when you settle down you have been blessed or lack experience.
Even good relationships have fireworks—unless the two people getting together are magically perfectly well adjusted and mature from well-adjusted mature parents, siblings. Oh nooo. Most people are fabulous messes—and crazy childhoods/family dynamics can make dating look like a walk in the park compared to cohabitating or marrying.
--- Quote from: Farideh on 01 Nov 2020, 18:23 ---That is a good point. Then again, 'minor relationship squabbles' do not make for very entertaining comics, which might be one reason why Jeph doesn't portray them? That, and the sheer amount of storylines he has going on:
- Dora/Tai wedding
- Claire's jobhunting
- May's new chassis
- Roko's dissociative episodes
- Clinton/Elliot/Brun's romantic shenanigans
- and maybe some more that I can't think off right now
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N.N. Marf:
--- Quote from: Tova on 01 Nov 2020, 17:23 ---
--- Quote from: N.N. Marf on 01 Nov 2020, 12:15 ---What meant you by truly learn?
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Great question.
To truly learn from your mistakes is to understand yourself well enough to know why it happened and what you need to do to be a better person. That kind of necessary work is an act of self love. If you can't forgive yourself, then lack that fundamental prerequisite.
If you believe you did wrong because you're a bad person, then of course you won't be able to forgive yourself. If instead you focus on the behaviour, then you can believe that are able to change your behaviour in the future. To fail to forgive yourself is to believe that you can't do better, so of course you won't. Simply telling yourself you're a bad person isn't understanding yourself, and it's not truly learning from your mistakes.
Accountability isn't refusal to forgive yourself. Accountability is work.
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Perhaps we have different conceptions of accountability, forgiveness---those mine are opposite the other: self-forgiveness, as I understand it, is the giving-up, the refusal to do better---but neither case is necessarily from considering oneself bad: one might simply acknowledge a challenge as too difficult, or with better possibilities available---for such cases, I defer judgement 'til judgement day: for now---in whatever `now' they be---they're simply on account, awaiting when correction may more effective be.
And I'm not sure how self-love enters it---self-understanding, sure, and acceptance: what I am, how I am,, all my behaviours---but I not need love myself to know I can, how, to do better. I need only examine, adjust myself, behaviour, to better.
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