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Trav:
Quake world > Quake *

No fps will be as much fun as Quake World, EVER!

harvest17:
You are all drunk. Doom 1 is the best FPS ever. :P ;)

Seriously, though. Seminal, fast-paced, at times really scary, and the only FPS that let you take on 30 dudes at once (Serious Sam's "infinite dudes" doesn't count).

(dons asbestos suit)

Anyway, back on topic... Quake 4 = Doom 3. The trailer makes this painfully obvious. Quake 4 < Killzone 2

All you need to know about these types of games: Something Awful reviews Doom 3

Druid:
The original is the original, and you can't really beat it there.

My thoughts on first person shooters: Screw storyline I just want to kill stuff.

The Quake line's strength was always it's multiplayer mode, so I'll have to wait and see how that feature pans out.

Switchblade:

--- Quote from: harvest17 ---Anyway, back on topic... Quake 4 = Doom 3.
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uh... no... Quake 4 = Quake 4.

It just LOOKS like Doom 3. Because it uses the same engine.

Dude, nobody said that Raven had to come up with their own engine for the game, did they? Considering how good they are at using iD's stuff, I really don't give a shit what it looks like, or which engine it's been produced using, I'm more looking forward to it being a  good game - which seems quite likely right now.

Now will everybody PLEASE stop getting hung up on which engine its using? YES, it's using the Doom 3 engine! You all win fifty genius points for SPOTTING THE FUCKING OBVIOUS!

However it turns out, it is still a standalone game, sporting some genuinely nifty stuff - aside from the (admittedly, by now, cliched) "team combat" and "vehicles" features, (click to show/hide)you actually get Stroggified halfway through, and there's fuck all you can do to avoid it. That's gotta be cool.

I hate that people are looking at this game and just shrugging it off with a thought process that appears to be "Nurrr, it uses the Doom 3 engine, which means that it is Doom 3. Again. Meh." People really ought to try to judge a game on its own, standalone merits, rather than "Oh, this game uses the engine from a game I didn't like, therefore I won't like this game".

what kind of a stupid-ass line of reasoning is that?


--- Quote ---The Quake line's strength was always it's multiplayer mode, so I'll have to wait and see how that feature pans out.
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True that. it seems more like they're focusing on the single-player mode this time, but I doubt they'll skimp on the multiplayer - the DOOM series never was really categorized by its MP play, so it was hardly surprising, really, that D3 multiplayer was limited to four-person deathmatch.


I think the only thing to do, really, is sit and wait for the real thing to come out.

In the mean time, I'd like to raise a social finger at the "something Awful" reviewer. Learn to have fun, man, and quit complaining. Shit doesn't always make sense. so there are inexplicable exploding barrels next to important computer hardware in the game. Big deal. Does it have to make sense? No! they're there to go boom and help you kill the monsters, not to make sense. Asshat.

nihilist:
D3 == Q4.  Not because of the engine, but because of the content.  If you look at the SP game, they both have similar everything.  Same genre, same basic plot outline, blah blah blah.  If you were going to buy Q4 for the SP and you already owned D3, I'd tell you not to bother.  However, it's the MP that sets it apart.  D3 MP is ass.  Q4 MP should be all sorts of good.  At least, I'm hoping so.  Cuz then the Q4 engine should be the engine of choice for the future.  Right?  :p

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