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est:

--- Quote from: Robbo ---Hey, est....just because you don't know people that can't keep it undercontrol with genres...doesn't mean everyone is like that ok? And not all genres are THAT board. If it's an issue of detail, should just be left to actuall describing the band.
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to me "describing the band" is best done by comparing them to others.  maybe you have a better musical vocabulary than i and are able to describe the sound of guitars, drums and vocals without reference to other bands, i don't know.  maybe i didn't express myself properly in my post, i mean i agree with what you just wrote and think to myself that that is pretty much what i was trying to say.

Robbo:
Hmmm, comparing a band to others only works if the person you're telling knows that sort of music. Now, in most cases that's all fine and well because they might well do. But if I tried to describe say Xasthur to you...I might well start of saying "Well, they're a type of Black Metal" and you'd quickly say "What's Black Metal?"*

I guess, it's like trying to describe an object someone's never seen before, like a tree to an alien creature..if you didn't have a tree to show them, you could get all the big things across if they spoke English couldn't you? Be like saying if the music if fast or slow, what sort of tone it uses, what instruments, how they are in the mix, thick or thin sounds, how they play, do they do tech/solo stuff or not, etc, etc. And if the alien knew what some trees where like but not others...you could fill in the fine details with comparison.

Sorry for all the crappy examples, but I'm trying to keep on safe non-musical ground here.


*Yes I'm making a sweeping judgement by assuming you don't Black Metal, but it's a quick and dirty example.

My Aim Is True:

--- Quote from: mechorg ---To use Robbo's analogy (and i, too, lack a specific knowledge of NYC), sure you can narrow it down to Queens or Manhattan... but what if some people say Queens starts at 8th Street and others say it starts at 11th Street.  
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Aha, but the thiing here is that most of the time when people say that bands like Rufio and Bayside are emo, it's not that they are somewhere on the border between Brooklyn and Queens (which are right next to each other on Long Island). It's more like real emo is in Manhattan (which is on a totally different island from Queens and Brooklyn) and all those bands that get called emo in SPIN Magazine are in Vermont.

Robbo:
Somewhat back on topic, I'm finally getting aroudn to giving the Embrace album a listen. Not overly my thing, rather perfere Emotional Hardcore, but it's still miles better than media "emo"

Kid Amnesiac:
Threads like this spawn stupid ones like this:

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/viewtopic.php?t=6374

I really hope you all know that.

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