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movielife_girl:
--- Quote from: Robbo ---Nice pot shot at the stereotypical and incorrect massmedia idea of Emo.
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Nah man, I'm just sick of the emo discussion you know? It's been going on for about 2-3 years now, it's just tired. Whatever though, I guess the smart thing to do would be to just stay out of this discussion. Too bad I was never one to be intelligent about things.
mechorg:
I just think its kinda sad people have to bicker over it rather than accept that people classify things differently. What I label as "indie", for example, someone else may call something completely different. Okay, fine.
I mostly label things for my own convenience and how I remember it and make it easier to find things on my computer. It seems a lot of people stick labels to bands just to sound like more of a music elitist by adding hyphens. Okay, fine. But to me, your post-hardcore-thrash-viking-metal is just metal.
Anyone that wants to argue over post-hardcore-thrash-viking-metal is just an ass and proving my point.
Mnementh:
--- Quote from: Robbo ---Threads like this around the board make me thing that Emo is now one of the most misunderstand, mislabelled and least really known about genres...
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Ding Ding, we have a winner.
--- Quote from: wikipedia ---Emo (an abbreviation of "emotionally-driven Hardcore punk" or just "emotional-hardcore") is a term now broadly used to describe almost any form of guitar-driven alternative rock that expresses emotions beyond traditional punk's limited emotional palette of alienation and rage. It is also used to describe fans of this genre, most commonly teenagers (emo kids). The actual term "emo" originated in the mid-1980s D.C. scene, with the band Rites of Spring, as well as bands such as Fugazi, Moss Icon, and Antioch Arrow. The term addressed both the way the band connected with its audience, as well as its tendency to deal more with topics of personal and relationship politics than with the standard themes of rock music.
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For what wikipedia is worth I think that is a fairly accurate definition, I'd add that it's power chord driven alternative rock. The word emo has become so misused since the rise of Jimmy Eat World and the music of the late-90's and early naughties that today it means anyone with a guitar who can whine.
The lesson we can learn. Genre definitions are useless, don't bother with them, they vary from person to person and band to band. Scenes are even more useless as they become the basis for pretention.
mechorg:
Since I think Mnementh was writing that post while I was writing mine, I'll agree with everything said.
I'd also like add that genres usually have a specific sound. A lot of artists today vary their sound even on a single album that pigeon-holing someone into a single genre seems next to impossible.
KharBevNor:
--- Quote from: mechorg --- post-hardcore-thrash-viking-metal
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Would that be post-hardcore with thrashy viking metal, post hardcore/thrash with viking metal influences, or something that comes after hardcore-thrash-viking?
Also, although this is an over the top example, people oftem hold music close to their heart, so, every-time you call alt-whine rock 'emo' imagine you just called everyone in Ireland a member of the IRA.
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