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Robbo:
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The lesson we can learn. Genre definitions are useless, don't bother with them, they vary from person to person and band to band. Scenes are even more useless as they become the basis for pretention.
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Maybe to some people, but not to all. Nice of you to come down and say no one can use them when some people and scenes work rather well with them thank you very much. I dont see how stuff based on musical styles and ideas can change that much from band to band...especially when some bands carve out a sound that clear yes/no lines for their music.
Screw it, I like to live in my little stamp collecting world you know? Means I can't just passively sit there like some brainless meatbag and let some bland and tepid music wash over me and live in happy bunny and media land where everything in safe and calm and I dont have to think about my music or analyise or be challegend or have a brain. I like to be able to compear it it, think about, see how it matches up with it peers, how it works and more stuff along those lines.
And what's so bad about a band setting out to play that one style or a maybe two or three styles, of music and playing it? Seems to work find for lots and lots of bands.
ASturge:
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Also, although this is an over the top example, people oftem hold music close to their heart, so, every-time you call alt-whine rock 'emo' imagine you just called everyone in Ireland a member of the IRA.
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Nice one.
On the subject of genres, I think they're good to a certain extent.
Greenday is pop-punk, Iron Maiden is Heavy Metal. Simple. I just get a little bit annoyed when people start saying things like " post-hardcore-thrash-viking-metal"
Robbo:
Right, I've got no problem with that sort of view. That's the view of someone that likes music, knows a little bit about it..can tell things apart and that's all it needs to do. It's there to let you know what the music sounds like. So you only ever need to go so far. Something like say "Folk infleuenced Ambient Electronica" something with a little more detail when you get more varied bands or groups doing things a little differently. And even I will say there can be overkill in genre descriptions..even for the most hardcore users. Comes a point when you should just give up and just call in "Experimental" whatever or something along those lines.
ASturge:
Just clearing something up, I don't like Green Day and Iron Madien (much...)
Also, I do understand music, very well infact. I could compose a classical guitar piece off the top of my head easy. You have to really know an instrument to do that.
I'm a bit annoyed at how you seem to think I don't know much about the thing that I want to spend the rest of my life doing just becasue I can't describe a band's genre in more then four words...
mechorg:
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I'm a bit annoyed at how you seem to think I don't know much about the thing that I want to spend the rest of my life doing just becasue I can't describe a band's genre in more then four words...
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I second that.
I have no problems in someone describing the sound of a band with long chains of adjectives, but it in no way should then be a genre.
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I dont see how stuff based on musical styles and ideas can change that much from band to band...
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There's a lot of music out there you should listen to sometime.
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Screw it, I like to live in my little stamp collecting world you know? Means I can't just passively sit there like some brainless meatbag and let some bland and tepid music wash over me and live in happy bunny and media land where everything in safe and calm and I dont have to think about my music or analyise or be challegend or have a brain. I like to be able to compear it it, think about, see how it matches up with it peers, how it works and more stuff along those lines.
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I don't even know where to start with this paragraph...
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