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« Reply #50 on: 06 Oct 2005, 06:17 »

I've always thought of Nine Inch Nails as "pop industrial".

Some of thier stuff is obviously different than others, but I can hardly think of a better description for Pretty Hate Machine than pop industrial. Broken is more industrial metal. Downward Spiral = pop industrial again, as is With Teeth. The Fragile kinda goes all over the place, but it certainly has it's industrial moments.

So where'd the goth come from again?
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« Reply #51 on: 06 Oct 2005, 11:42 »

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my friend Kieffer once alleged that one of the most common topics of punk rock songs was "raping women".

what makes this claim all the more baffling was that this was in eighth grade, when his perception of punk rock was Green Day and New Found Glory.


Hahaha. That is great. Apparently, American Idiot is just one boy's journey through the world of serial rapists. Once I find that album again, I am going to take another look at it with that in mind.

It'll probably be funner to listen to this time.
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« Reply #52 on: 06 Oct 2005, 13:57 »

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Yeah. I think i'd maybe take more issue with the word 'hardcore'.


Industrial, yes. Hardcore, no.
Sure as hell more industrial than 'goth rock'.
Bear in mind I listen to a grand total of 2 industrial artists (:wumpscut: and Haujobb), so I'm hardly a fan, let alone an expert. So yeah, bear that in mind, but I'm still right.

Also, new stupid quote! I was listening to Brothomstates, which as not many of you will know are IDM. Think bleeps and broken drum machines. Not so much as a hint of any real instruments, or indeed much of a melody. A passerby kindly enquired "Oi, mate! Why are you listening to that classical shit?". I expressed suprise at his classification with a witty "What?". He elaborated with "You're listening to Beethoven or summat, ain't ya, dickhead?".

I felt suitably enriched by the exchange, and bid him good day.

The story is much better if you know the song, trust me. So here it is. Maybe you'll instantly think Beethoven, but I doubt it.
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« Reply #53 on: 06 Oct 2005, 16:11 »

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my friend Kieffer once alleged that one of the most common topics of punk rock songs was "raping women".

what makes this claim all the more baffling was that this was in eighth grade, when his perception of punk rock was Green Day and New Found Glory.


Well, with a name like Kieffer, your life is already screwed up unless your last name is Sutherland.

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I've always thought of Nine Inch Nails as "pop industrial".


To be fair, "Only" was practically a disco-pop single.

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Some of thier stuff is obviously different than others, but I can hardly think of a better description for Pretty Hate Machine than pop industrial.


This is true, Reznor may have a black heart but he can write catchy motherfucking melodies, and his music is pop.

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Broken is more industrial metal.


Fixed is borderline nu-metal half the time.

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Downward Spiral = pop industrial again, as is With Teeth. The Fragile kinda goes all over the place, but it certainly has it's industrial moments.

So where'd the goth come from again?


Duh, he wears black a lot. Anyone in black is a goth.

Including me, despite the fact that I like Weezer.
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« Reply #54 on: 06 Oct 2005, 16:36 »

I'm sure referring to Nine Inch Nails as industrial in the presence of a proper rivet-head would be an invitation to be vomited over. 'industrial pop' must be one of the most oxymoronic genre descriptions ever. I'd prefer riot-pop, which is what Angelspit call themselves, or just industrial rock, which  it is.

Nine Inch Nails is to rivetheads as Green Day is to punks. You get my drift?
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« Reply #55 on: 06 Oct 2005, 16:56 »

Stuffing musical expression into tiny, rigidly defined boxes is where it's at, y'all.

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« Reply #56 on: 06 Oct 2005, 17:08 »

I love it how some people seem to imagine that somehow music defies definition 'because it's artistic expression!!!'. I don't think anyones enjoyment of Toulouse-Lautrec was ever harmed by people calling him a post-impressionist. Music is as categorisable as any other form of art. A small percentage of truly original individuals cause some problems, and the rest are easily categorised and cross-referenced.
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« Reply #57 on: 07 Oct 2005, 05:51 »

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Nine Inch Nails is to rivetheads as Green Day is to punks. You get my drift?

Completely. But that doesn't mean both nails and Green Day make terrible music. They just make the more accessible mainstream versions of genres that consider themselves the alternatives to popular music.
Popular != terrible.
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« Reply #58 on: 07 Oct 2005, 06:14 »

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1. Queen - We are the champons
2. britany Spears - Toxic
3. Michel Jackson - Billy Jean
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY STUPID!


britney as one of the best songs for anything?
OOOHHHHHHHHH THAT IS BAD. VERY BAD.
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« Reply #59 on: 07 Oct 2005, 17:00 »

"Pink Floyd is the new Sigur Ros."

And then I shot him in the face.
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« Reply #60 on: 07 Oct 2005, 17:07 »

Are you sure he didn't say it the other way around?

Cuz seriously. If it was said like that, his ears should be repossesed.
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« Reply #61 on: 07 Oct 2005, 17:45 »

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Some months ago, on a train ride to work, I overheard a couple of youngsters (about age 12) talk about music. One of them, typically the kind of kid the others would look up to, had a discman. He was telling the others how the song they were listening to was called "hey ho let's go" by the "Ramoness" (pronounced like that, yes, in Dutch). I felt like getting up and shoving the kid through the window of the moving train, but sadly, I managed to do nothing more than shake my head in disgust. I don't think I've listened to Blitzkrieg Bop ever since.


That is actually a pretty easy mistake to make. Don't really understand why you'd be so mad.

Yeah I suppose it'd be harsh to kick his lily ass just for not using the right song title - Blitzkrieg Bop would probably be a little too complex a wording for him to use anyway - but it wasn't just that. The fact that this kid was succeeding at impressing his friends with his "knowledge" when he didn't even know the right song title and how to pronounce the band's name, basic things if you're going to try and show off, that was just beyond me.

At least he showed a budding taste in music and hopefully spread it too, that's about the only positive thing I can say about the whole thing.
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« Reply #62 on: 07 Oct 2005, 18:44 »

Creativity comes from the ability to hide one's sources, as it's said. If that kid can get away with it, good on him. He'll probably figure it out later, as will his friends.
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« Reply #63 on: 07 Oct 2005, 21:16 »

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I'm sure referring to Nine Inch Nails as industrial in the presence of a proper rivet-head would be an invitation to be vomited over. 'industrial pop' must be one of the most oxymoronic genre descriptions ever. I'd prefer riot-pop, which is what Angelspit call themselves, or just industrial rock, which  it is.

Nine Inch Nails is to rivetheads as Green Day is to punks. You get my drift?


Oh, come on, Khar.  Everyone knows that even the most serious rivethead has a copy of The Downward Spiral they listen to on rare occasion for nostalgia's sake.

Plus, rivetheads are a bunch of twats for the most part, anyways.
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« Reply #64 on: 07 Oct 2005, 23:30 »

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3. Michel Jackson - Billy Jean ( For some reson I like this one.. Don't ask why)


Dude, everyone knows "Billie Jean" is the best song ever.

One of my coworkers is a Nickelback fan (hang on, it gets worse), and she loves Chad Kroeger's "raunchier" lyrics on the new album. I keep fighting the urge to shove a 20-year old Prince record in her face.
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« Reply #65 on: 08 Oct 2005, 01:38 »

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Duh, he wears black a lot. Anyone in black is a goth.

Including me, despite the fact that I like Weezer.

I blame America... you lot have ruined goth and it's related genres for everyone.

Whilst wearing a KMFDM t-shirt: "KMFDM... that American heavymetal band?"
I don't know what to say... they're German, they live in Seatlle but they're German. Heavy metal...? Ummm no.
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« Reply #66 on: 08 Oct 2005, 01:53 »

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The story is much better if you know the song, trust me. So here it is. Maybe you'll instantly think Beethoven, but I doubt it.

I just downloaded that song and I can honestly say it is one of the most boring songs I've heard in my entire life (In my opinion).
Out of genuine interest, what makes you want to listen to this?
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« Reply #67 on: 08 Oct 2005, 04:17 »

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Whilst wearing a KMFDM t-shirt: "KMFDM... that American heavymetal band?"
I don't know what to say... they're German, they live in Seatlle but they're German. Heavy metal...? Ummm no.


Oh, but come on, no-one, generally SPEAKING, knows jack shit about metal. Hell, I can remember when I was 13-14 and I used to lump AFI, Rob Zombie and Metallica together as...goodness knows actually. 'heavy music' or something. I really should remember this more when I shake my head at peoples ideas of music, but meh, more people should put the effort I have put in.
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« Reply #68 on: 08 Oct 2005, 04:37 »

Everyone needs to listen before they judge and have a better idea about genres.
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« Reply #69 on: 08 Oct 2005, 06:10 »

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Duh, he wears black a lot. Anyone in black is a goth.

Including me, despite the fact that I like Weezer.

I blame America... you lot have ruined goth and it's related genres for everyone.

Whilst wearing a KMFDM t-shirt: "KMFDM... that American heavymetal band?"
I don't know what to say... they're German, they live in Seatlle but they're German. Heavy metal...? Ummm no.


'You lot?' I'm from the Midlands...
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« Reply #70 on: 08 Oct 2005, 09:28 »

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I just downloaded that song and I can honestly say it is one of the most boring songs I've heard in my entire life (In my opinion).
Out of genuine interest, what makes you want to listen to this?


Well, mainly because it's awesome, but also partly because I'm awesome. I'd say it's about 80/20.
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« Reply #71 on: 08 Oct 2005, 10:13 »

I sent Carl(Fabio) an .mp3 of Colin Meloy's version of 'Sister I'm A Poet'. His response; "Hey! This sounds a lot like The Decemberists' singer!"

His excuse: "I didn't read the title."

Needless to say, I laughed. REALLY hard.
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« Reply #72 on: 08 Oct 2005, 13:44 »

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"Pink Floyd is the new Sigur Ros."

And then I shot him in the face.


AARGH! I THINK I'M HAVING A BRAIN HAMEORRHAGE!(sp?)

Of course, if he said it the other way round, then he's not far off.
I would also accept 'Radiohead.'
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« Reply #73 on: 08 Oct 2005, 14:07 »

I just thought of another one. One of my best friends thinks Green Day's latest is their best album up to this point, because they managed to escape into mainstream (or something like that). He named Blink 182's latest as another example of how a band successfully did that. This guy taught me music years ago, and then that... There is no god. And worst thing is, he can't stop ridiculizing my taste in music. "With friends like these, who the fuck needs Cointelpro?"
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« Reply #74 on: 08 Oct 2005, 15:13 »

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Of course, if he said it the other way round, then he's not far off.
I would also accept 'Radiohead.'

I would also accept 'The Mars Volta', oddly enough.
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« Reply #75 on: 08 Oct 2005, 15:21 »

i once played Assorted Jelly Beans for someone, and they described them as "a cross between Sublime and AFI".  what??

i also heard someone once claim that ska was created in the 1980's as a mix of reggae, punk, and swing.  i really wanted to smack him.
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« Reply #76 on: 08 Oct 2005, 17:06 »

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'You lot?' I'm from the Midlands...

I'm making gross baseless generalisations. Some of the best "goth" in years has come out of the USA but also most of the worst has too.
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Well, mainly because it's awesome, but also partly because I'm awesome. I'd say it's about 80/20.

I can't really argue with that.
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« Reply #77 on: 08 Oct 2005, 17:28 »

ok, one of my best friends is an elitist scene-kid, and when he heard me listening to a mixed cd that had spoon and rage against the machine, among about 7 other bands, he went into an elitist scene craze!

"what the fuck are you doing?!?! rage against the machine!! everyone and their fat mother knows them! nine inch nails?!?! what the fuck man! get away from your fucking radio!.."
it went on for quite a while. he completely ignored the fact that i discovered none of these bands on the radio. nevermind any mention of liking a band because they make good music, and not caring about their level of popularity, one way or the other.

i know a lot of "radio" music can be unoriginal and often just lame, but come on. rejecting bands because more than ten people know who they are? i thought people had gotten over that stupidity. that's just as idiotic as rejecting them because they've gotten no radio play. it its good, enjoy it. sorry, end rant.
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« Reply #78 on: 08 Oct 2005, 20:21 »

Or it's more of Rage Against the Machine and NIN kinda suck ass.
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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« Reply #79 on: 08 Oct 2005, 21:46 »

New stupid comment!

I was humming "Hey Jude" in class and a guy sitting next to me asked what I was humming. I told him the name of the song and he asked, "Oh, who's that by?" I was already horrified at this point but I managed to keep a straight face in explaining that the Beatles wrote it. His reply:

"The Beatles? Uh.. yeah.. I think I've heard of those guys."

Needless to say it was difficult to not snap and do something drastic. Instead I'm pretty sure I winced and bit my lip or something. It's still pretty terrible.
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« Reply #80 on: 08 Oct 2005, 22:05 »

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Or it's more of Rage Against the Machine and NIN kinda suck ass.


.....you....just....ok i can't even respond to that idiotic comment without risking getting kicked out of here.

except to say that, since his arguement REALLY was that all bands played on the radio suck automatically, making it a stupid arguement no matter what bands he was talking about.
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« Reply #81 on: 09 Oct 2005, 06:48 »

NIN is just really bland quasi-industrial tripe. Rage Against The Machine is just really annoying rap-whatever the fuck you want to put here, and they're made worse by the good amounts of high school bands covering RATM songs. Seriously.
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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« Reply #82 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:09 »

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Needless to say it was difficult to not snap and do something drastic.


You should have slammed his head into a wall, removed his leg with something blunt, and beat him to death with it.
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« Reply #83 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:18 »

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ok, one of my best friends is an elitist scene-kid, and when he heard me listening to a mixed cd that had spoon and rage against the machine, among about 7 other bands, he went into an elitist scene craze!

"what the fuck are you doing?!?! rage against the machine!! everyone and their fat mother knows them! nine inch nails?!?! what the fuck man! get away from your fucking radio!.."
it went on for quite a while. he completely ignored the fact that i discovered none of these bands on the radio. nevermind any mention of liking a band because they make good music, and not caring about their level of popularity, one way or the other.

i know a lot of "radio" music can be unoriginal and often just lame, but come on. rejecting bands because more than ten people know who they are? i thought people had gotten over that stupidity. that's just as idiotic as rejecting them because they've gotten no radio play. it its good, enjoy it. sorry, end rant.


When's the last fucking time RATM got played on mainstream radio?

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Rage Against The Machine is just really annoying rap-whatever the fuck you want to put here, and they're made worse by the good amounts of high school bands covering RATM songs. Seriously.


Despite having one of the most innovative guitarists of the nineties?
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« Reply #84 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:29 »

shush dynamite kid altho he is speaking blasphemy against the RATM gods we will ignore him and go on our merry little ways *hugs* its ok were better than him

and i love NIN too ....


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« Reply #85 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:33 »

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shush dynamite kid altho he is speaking blasphemy against the RATM gods we will ignore him and go on our merry little ways *hugs* its ok were better than him

and i love NIN too ....


damn straight


Ew, it touched me.
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« Reply #86 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:37 »

:o last time i try and be nice and stop WW3 breaking out in yet another music thread

*sulks off to the free hugs/makeout thread for some lovin*
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« Reply #87 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:38 »

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:o last time i try and be nice and stop WW3 breaking out in yet another music thread

*sulks off to the free hugs/makeout thread for some lovin*


You know I wuvz you normz.

Despite your gay emo faggot avatar.
Literally!
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« Reply #88 on: 09 Oct 2005, 07:45 »

the part about my avatar made me giggle (like actually out loud) .... it will change soon tho once i find something worthy of my awesomeness

oh yeah something stupid my little sister said the other day 'avril is so original, your just jealous cause she's really talented normy'
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« Reply #89 on: 09 Oct 2005, 08:21 »

This one doesn't have too much to do with music, but seems related to me.

I live in an old port city near the Canadian border that had three big industries in its early days, mining, fishing and logging.  It grew together as a conglomerate of I think four or five other towns.  Now it's grown into a bustling college town, with a decent music scene.  But it's not just dominated by college students, it's got retirees, tourists, and small business owners up the wazoo.  Not to mention a stupid number of visual artists and writers.  There are all sorts of political factions and divides, the major one being between land developers and people who've lived here a long time and liked it the way it was in the sixties.  There are old hippy communes, and community gardens, and dojos, and poetry circles, and boat people...  Basically, it's a complicated place with a big history.

One day, I heard a college student saying, "If you live in Bellingham, you're either a 'scenester' or a 'whitehat.'"

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If "whitehat" means what I think it means, in Bellingham, even the whitehats are scenesters!  Whatever the heck "scenester" means...

OK, I'll go take this rant down to the bus depot now, where it'll fit in better with the mental patients displaced by Ronald Reagan's administration....
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« Reply #90 on: 09 Oct 2005, 08:21 »

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Rage Against The Machine is just really annoying rap-whatever the fuck you want to put here, and they're made worse by the good amounts of high school bands covering RATM songs. Seriously.


Despite having one of the most innovative guitarists of the nineties?


Wow! Dude! I didn't know Jason Göbel from Gordian Knot ever played with RATM!
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« Reply #91 on: 09 Oct 2005, 11:14 »

look what someone put on Mindless self indulgence's my space thing:
"I wish to extend my sincerest gratitude to you all for being the most original band I know of. I was wondering if you guys could go out to Norfolk or Hampton, Virginia. Thank you, for a greatful sailor!"
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« Reply #92 on: 09 Oct 2005, 13:07 »

"Music doesn't really matter anyway, there are more important things in life like cars"

DOESNT MATTER, DOESNT MATTER??????
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« Reply #93 on: 09 Oct 2005, 13:16 »

Its perfectly true. Music is reliatively unimportant compared with the joys of building and driving exotic cars.
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« Reply #94 on: 09 Oct 2005, 13:31 »

Like for example the one in your avatar?

I want one of those, if I had one I wouldn't mind going deaf.

or a musical apocalypse where all musicians(actual and wannabies) spontaneously combust along with any recordings and notes.
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« Reply #95 on: 09 Oct 2005, 13:36 »

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Its perfectly true. Music is reliatively unimportant compared with the joys of building and driving exotic cars.


Yeah but... what do you listen to when you're driving or when youre in the garage for 8 hours welding stuff??

Plus he wasnt talking about exotic cars he was talking about his SKODA. *shudders*
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« Reply #96 on: 09 Oct 2005, 13:59 »

If you have a good car, it doesnt even have a radio. You dont want one iether, the induction, exaust, and gearbox make sweet music for you.

Dont knock skodas too much.. they make nice rally cars. Course, if his is iether standard, or a neon covered barrymobile, feel free to laugh at him.

The "one in my avatar" is a drawing of my 1959 austin mini. Its little 850cc engine just burbles and clatters away.. Course, its a mini, so the sky is the limit with performance tuning. I'm just watching a video of a friends mini on a sprint track. 190 brake horsepower in half a tonne of the best handling car ever made. The origional giant killer, and still the best  :)

Really, when you own a mini it puts all the mundane things in life in perspective. Music is just a plesant diversion for wet evenings when you have a mini.
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« Reply #97 on: 09 Oct 2005, 17:48 »

ok thanks normz and dynamitekid. i'm glad im not the only sane one. i would also like to point out that rage's lyrics don't get nearly enough credit. the choruses are appropriately simple, the rest is on point and easy to remember  phrases, where every word is chosen for a purpose, so that the average RATM song can be sung by a mass of people intelligent enough to understand what is going on around them. in other words it is the "rap, whatever" version of old protest music.

and i don't know about where you live by my local rock radio station loves RATM. they've also been playing Tool for as long as Tool's been around, and played grunge and alternative before it started getting national acclaim. they also frequently play local bands, and local requests, to balance out all the mainstream they have to play to be able to keep going. i think that is why my friend was so offended by them, cuz our local station plays them frequently.

as for NIN, like many bands worth listening to, they are not contained in a single genre, but rather reznor lets himself be influenced by many sources. this can cause problems with hardline fans of a particular genre, but for those of us who appreciate artist who keep an open mind, this is a beautiful thing.
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« Reply #98 on: 09 Oct 2005, 18:53 »

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Really, when you own a mini it puts all the mundane things in life in perspective. Music is just a plesant diversion for wet evenings when you have a mini.


The wet nights are the most fun when you own a mini...
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« Reply #99 on: 09 Oct 2005, 20:02 »

Maybe when i get some halogens.
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