Topic: Just to prove I'm not a bandwagoner later on (Read 14743 times)

Narr · « **on:** 13 Feb 2006, 20:00 »

I found a video of this guy named Justin King, like, a year and a half ago, on albinoblacksheep.com. He played in a rather unorthodox manner, producing a very unique sound which I liked, and at the end of the clip it said to go to this site. At the time, it was all hosted by his band, but now that they just got picked up by Epic Records, like... I wanna say late fall of last year, it's now hosted by said music label. (The original band site remains intact at www.justinkingband.com, although it doesn't have anything the Epic Records one is missing.)

I suggest going to the media section and watching one of the video clips or two. The snippets from the songs they have up there aren't half bad, either.

Justin King doing a crazy, insane solo:
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It's a lot different from the stuff I normally listen to, so either my tastes are changing or I am that much in awe of how this guy plays the guitar. Or both.

Gryff · « **Reply #1 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 20:27 »

Hmm, do I trust the guy with 2 posts who's linking me to a "hot new band"?

Kai · « **Reply #2 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 20:29 »

Different subject, but still.

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #3 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 20:30 »

The real question is, does it really matter that much? Honestly, I'm okay with advertising, because it introduces me to things sometimes. Sure, it's poor to base everything on advertising, but how bad could it hurt to just look in on it a little bit?

Inlander · « **Reply #4 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 20:46 »

It would be crippling for our precious hipster cynicism.

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #5 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 21:02 »

Oh, right. My mistake.

Cernach · « **Reply #6 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 22:17 »

Everyone needs a brisk crippling now and then. Toughens the soul and readies you for the rigours of later life.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 Feb 2006, 23:24 »

Quote from: Bastardous Bassist

The real question is, does it really matter that much? Honestly, I'm okay with advertising, because it introduces me to things sometimes. Sure, it's poor to base everything on advertising, but how bad could it hurt to just look in on it a little bit?

Problem is, where does it end.

When I am in the shower, I dont want to be advertised at. And every time we let ads infiltrate our lives a little bit more, and become comfortable with it, then marketers are able to take a next step in invasive advertising.

Hell look at ign... Was once your average video game cheat site call segasages, now Im pretty sure you have to sign up to have them put adds in the middle of a news topic about how advertising within games has become the newest frontier of marketing, oh and punch the monkey for a new cell phone while your reading.

Thrillho · « **Reply #8 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 10:04 »

Is that the guy who does all the tapping? I need to buy his album, because I was utterly amazed at someone who's taking something so skilful but still managing to make awesome music out of it - I'm looking at you, (80% of) shredders!

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #9 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 10:09 »

Quote from: Chesire Cat

Problem is, where does it end.

When I am in the shower, I dont want to be advertised at. And every time we let ads infiltrate our lives a little bit more, and become comfortable with it, then marketers are able to take a next step in invasive advertising.

Hell look at ign... Was once your average video game cheat site call segasages, now Im pretty sure you have to sign up to have them put adds in the middle of a news topic about how advertising within games has become the newest frontier of marketing, oh and punch the monkey for a new cell phone while your reading.

Honestly, I don't really know what percentage of our lives there's ads. I've just gotten to where I tune it all out, in general. I mean, you could tell me places where there are ads, and I'll remember that, sure enough, there are ads there, but I probably couldn't come up with a large number of ads. As such, I generally don't mind. If I'm looking for an ad, then it's easy to find, but otherwise I just don't pay attention.

weevil · « **Reply #10 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 10:32 »

Quote from: Chesire Cat

When I am in the shower, I dont want to be advertised at. And every time we let ads infiltrate our lives a little bit more, and become comfortable with it, then marketers are able to take a next step in invasive advertising.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you rub the labels off of all your shampoo, tear the tags off of your food and ignore anything with a name brand on in your house just because you like to keep it where it ends.

I know what you're saying. You're against a slippery slope of unbidden shit like pop-up ads or your cool free toy in your cereal to actually just be a coupon for a different product (sometimes it is, though. Lego?) My point is, the power of suggestion is all advertisement is, and though you seek to escape it in it's most overt form, you'll never avoid unless you become an off-the-grid-granola-eatin' hippie. I suggest sucking it up and enjoying the exciting new products and deals that the advertisements so wish to share with you.

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #11 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 13:13 »

Plus a lot of advertisement helps keep prices down.

surgerydrugsnrocknroll · « **Reply #12 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 14:02 »

none of that changes the fact that internet message boards should not be used for advertisment.

Narr · « **Reply #13 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 14:34 »

It's a habit of mine that when I sign up to a place, I try to create a topic that I think is relevant to the interests of the forum goers. My bad for coming across like some corporate sleezebag. I wish I was making money for posting about what I think is cool on random internet message boards.

Want me to tell you about myself, so that I'm not just a guy with "only two posts" so that my opinions are valid? I mean, I could if you wanted. Totally up to you all.

Gryff · « **Reply #14 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 14:55 »

Go on then. The only reason we jumped to conclusions was 'cause we don't know you I guess, so tell us some stuff. What kind of music do you like?

Kai · « **Reply #15 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 14:55 »

Relax. I just like to act like an asshole.

I'd check him out but I'm lazy. It might help if you'd describe him a little bit.

Gryff · « **Reply #16 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 15:09 »

Hey man, I'm trying to derail a thread here, and you're all "on topic" and shit. What gives?

Narr · « **Reply #17 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 15:29 »

As for me, I just turned 20 back in November. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (a.k.a. The Mormons) although most people wouldn't guess that to be the case because I have a foul mouth. I believe and all; I'm just a rebel at heart. I was born and raised in Las Vegas, Nevada, and just recently moved to a small, dinky town of 6000 people in Virginia to go to college. (Ever heard of Orson Scott Card? He's a professor at my school. I want to get into creative writing, so I figured he'd be a good teacher.)

Music tastes, I didn't really listen to anything until I got into high school, then a friend got me into Metallica. Funny thing is now, I can't even stand them. I could probably sing every song of theirs up to their self-titled album, too. My favorite band right now is Audioslave, partly because I grew up listening to both Soundgarden and Rage Against the Machine because of my older brother. (Now that I think about it, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam have been ingrained into my subconscious mind from my brother blaring it during my formative years. I don't mind, though, because they're good bands in my opinion.) My playlist is set on random and went from Rammstein to Queen, so I guess that sums up my taste pretty well. I like what I like and tend to lean towards harder rock.

As for Mr. King, he doesn't strum. He hammers on and off with both hands, almost sounding like two guitars are playing at once. In fact, in a number of his songs, he plays a double necked guitar, one hand playing on each neck. It's really, really cool to watch. I would say what genre it is, but I honestly don't like to classify things because labeling eventually creates stereotypes and stereotypes are bad 99% of the time. That, and I figure there are a lot of music snobs here who'd correct me because I'd probably use the wrong term. It's definately NOT the kind of stuff I usually listen to, is all I can really say.

Can't blame you guys for jumping to conclusions. Until you see someone's got, like, 50 posts, we tend to be critical (we being people on the internet.) This is, like, the first new message board I've signed up to since 2003. Sort of didn't cross my mind that I'm a "noob" here.

Kai · « **Reply #18 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 15:44 »

wait, like this guy:

Because Michael Angelo Batio bugs me.

Narr · « **Reply #19 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 15:59 »

I honest to God have no idea who that is or what he sounds like.

I am speaking of, you know, your typical double-necked guitar.

Kai · « **Reply #20 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 16:02 »

Okay, the fancy pretentious prog rock one.

Narr · « **Reply #21 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 16:17 »

Are you actually going to go, you know, take a look and form your own opinions, or just criticize the entire time?

I'm simply curious.

Gryff · « **Reply #22 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 16:50 »

I'd say he's probably going to go for option 2.

Kai · « **Reply #23 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 16:56 »

Wait, I'm criticizing? I love really pretentious things, and double necked guitars are TOTALLY pretentious. I mean, have you seen any of my posts about what I'm listening to? Total pretension.

I might check it out later. I'm being lazy.

EDIT: Was the music that was playing on the site him? Because it's not up my alley if it is.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #24 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 19:12 »

Quote from: weevil

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you rub the labels off of all your shampoo, tear the tags off of your food and ignore anything with a name brand on in your house just because you like to keep it where it ends.

I know what you're saying. You're against a slippery slope of unbidden shit like pop-up ads or your cool free toy in your cereal to actually just be a coupon for a different product (sometimes it is, though. Lego?) My point is, the power of suggestion is all advertisement is, and though you seek to escape it in it's most overt form, you'll never avoid unless you become an off-the-grid-granola-eatin' hippie. I suggest sucking it up and enjoying the exciting new products and deals that the advertisements so wish to share with you.

You, my friend, managed to miss the point so thoroughly I dont really know where to start in order to get you to understand. But here goes.

Everytime you turn a blind eye to invasive advertising in a new form, you allow it to become the new norm. Once it becomes the new norm, the next level of advertising seems to be the next logical step. Now you want to see a form of advertising that is in everyway completely horrible and annoying, go download Spyware Strike. I'll admit its advertising a product that doesn't exist and it is a very extreme case. But the mere fact that we just ignore pop-ups and other invasive advertising online or in day to day lives, just means that they are going to keep pushing and pushing until you start to notice.

Saying I dont want to be advertised at while in the shower, was refering to a possible outcome of while in the shower I am speaking under the assumption that you like me find showering to be a relatively private affair. You are secluded in a room bathing with the sole intent of relaxation/cleansing, and dont want some invasive agent bombarding you without your permission with product information you dont want. It was an example of a possible worst case scenario. Mere labels on my shampoo bottle really doesnt do much to offend my senses nor interrupt me in any way.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #25 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 21:39 »

Alex Lifeson uses a doubleneck guitar sometimes.

Therefore, there is nothing wrong with them. End of discussion.

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #26 on:** 14 Feb 2006, 21:44 »

Because everything He does is law...

Great guitarist, but he can make mistakes (not saying that double necked guitars are mistakes) and maybe it's only right in the context in which he uses it. It's like Pat Metheny's 42-string guitar. It sounds great when he uses it, but it's not for common use.

Kai · « **Reply #27 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 18:46 »

Pat Metheny = for the win. I didn't know he had a 42 stringed guitar, but if You could find a picture of that, I'd love you forever.

EDIT: I googled it. I WANT IT

Storm Rider · « **Reply #28 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 18:59 »

That's so pretentious even I don't like it.

Kai · « **Reply #29 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 19:03 »

Sellout.

Gryff · « **Reply #30 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 19:07 »

Wow. How could you possibly need that many strings? HOW?

Storm Rider · « **Reply #31 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 19:08 »

Quote from: Kai

Sellout.

OH, IT'S ON NOW, BUDDY.

Narr · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 20:34 »

You know, I just had a thought.

How about directly linking to the videos for the super lazy?

Justin King doing a crazy, insane solo:
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Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #33 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 22:16 »

Quote from: Gryff

Wow. How could you possibly need that many strings? HOW?

He actually does a bunch of eastern-sounding stuff on that guitar. It's not for traditional guitar playing at all. He makes some really cool music on it, and it's radically different from any guitar music I've heard previously. I have a Metheny Trio Live double album, and he plays it on one tune on the first disc. It's incredible. I'll look up which tune in a couple of days (I'm not entirely sober right now, so anything that resembles work is just too much to ask).

I Am Not Amused · « **Reply #34 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 22:34 »

That looks like a guitar, a mandolin and a banjo fucking pig intestines.

That's all I have to add to this thread.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #35 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 23:03 »

Quote from: Kai

Pat Metheny = for the win. I didn't know he had a 42 stringed guitar, but if You could find a picture of that, I'd love you forever.

Ok but whose going to tune that monster!

Bastardous Bassist · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 Feb 2006, 23:18 »

Why, the guitar tech, of course. Hey, if I were getting paid a whole lot of money to tune that guitar, I'd be fine with it.

Kai · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 Feb 2006, 04:11 »

that's like, a four hour tuning project.

surgerydrugsnrocknroll · « **Reply #38 on:** 16 Feb 2006, 10:44 »

tuning would be easy,
i personally would worry about re-stringing it :\

Kai · « **Reply #39 on:** 16 Feb 2006, 14:18 »

That's like, a 3 day project.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #40 on:** 16 Feb 2006, 19:54 »

Oh and while I am commenting off topic, I might as well put in a word on the actual topic.

MY FUCKING GOD!!!

Thats so cool shit! Thats awesome to the max!

ayePod · « **Reply #41 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 02:34 »

CHeck out Jon Gomm too,he's pretty rad ass.

http://www.myspace.com/jongomm

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #42 on:** 17 Feb 2006, 15:27 »

yes agreed. that is some amazing dualtapping (or whatever) he has got going on. on the subject of musicians playing two different things one instrument: the bass player for Manowar plays along those same lines, he does the orchestral song Flight of the Bumblebee (you know the one) on bass and its crazy fast/tech. its called Sting of the Bumblebee and its either on (cd) Fighting The World or Kings Of Metal. not sure which album.

weevil · « **Reply #43 on:** 20 Feb 2006, 09:53 »

Quote from: Chesire Cat

Everytime you turn a blind eye to invasive advertising in a new form, you allow it to become the new norm.

Quote from: Chesire Cat

Mere labels on my shampoo bottle really doesnt do much to offend my senses nor interrupt me in any way.

thermodynamics · « **Reply #44 on:** 20 Feb 2006, 13:00 »

Chesire Cat = owned.

i thought 12 string basses were pretentious... 42 strings is fucking mad.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #45 on:** 20 Feb 2006, 18:16 »

Quote from: weevil

Stuff I said

A sticker on a bottle isnt a blinking image in the middle of a review, or someone entering a forum with biased information with the sole intent of making money, remember these people aren't doing it for the love of the product, they are doing it because it is there job. The people who are guilty of invading a forum like this might love the product, but they aren't doing it because of the product.

Now if you look at what I said.

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Everytime you turn a blind eye to invasive advertising in a new form, you allow it to become the new norm.

You should be able to see the differences. A label on a shampoo bottle, heck even the Nike swoop on a hat isn't invasive. Its not inturrupting what I am doing to get me to look at it or purchase it. Its merely there in the background, idly doing nothing. I am not going to go out and buy another bottle of X brand shampoo because I saw the label in my bathroom. I am going to buy it because I liked it, and want to use it again.

Anyway, one, this off topic. And two, unless you have an opinion on the offtopic, dont sit around pointing out faults and naysaying. It puts me in a difficult position of refuting while not flaming.

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