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[Praeserpium Machinarum]

I burrowed some Skyclad at the library, but then again danish libraries are awesome.

Taking his tastes into account, I would say:

Radiohead
Soundgarden
Grateful Dead
Jefferson Airplane
Rufus Wainwright
The Go-Betweens(might work, if he can take the 80's sound)
Prefab Sprout
Ron Sexsmith
Nick Drake
Djosos Krost(it is dub, reasonably close to dancehall, I hope)
Stars
Dizzee Rascal(akin to The Streets, the vocals might scare him off though)
Goldie Lookin' Chain
Neil Young(the Springsteen)
The Byrds
Big Star

[KharBevNor]

It's the crowning irony that Skyclad are actually HUGE in Europe (only Metallica outsells them in the metal category in Greece) but totally unknown in the UK. Especially as their songs make constant use of British slang and other references and tend to be about things like Thatcherism, London, Merry England and what rotters the French are (though I suppose most Europeans can get behind that one).

[Kai]

I also heard they're huge in like, Brazil or some shit.

[BeoPuppy]

It's the crowning irony that Skyclad are actually HUGE in Europe (only Metallica outsells them in the metal category in Greece) but totally unknown in the UK. Especially as their songs make constant use of British slang and other references and tend to be about things like Thatcherism, London, Merry England and what rotters the French are (though I suppose most Europeans can get behind that one).

Yeah, they do okay here. Meanwhile Martin felt he had to leave the band because he wasn't getting enough money out of it to live on.

People should buy more music.

[KharBevNor]

Metal Fact #1: Everyone is fucking huge in Brazil and Japan. EVERYONE. Bands that barely ever enter the United States will do whopping South American tours.

Metal Fact #2: No one is huge in Russia*. That's still where all the scariest fans come from though.

Actually, metal is just wierd like that. The most charming thing about it, I think, is the global appeal it seems to have. Metalheads are fucking everywhere.

Also, from what I've read Martins reasons for leaving were more complicated than that. There was friction developing between the members of the band, and, relevantly, I remember reading in an interview shortly after that the refusal of the rest of Skyclad to travel to South America for a tour because they were worried about their safety there prompted a massive row which crystallised his desire to quit. By all accounts, Martin has an absolutely corrosive personality. He certainly does have a talent for breaking up really great bands. He's becoming a full-time writer now, they had an interview with him in Terrorizer.

*Except Gorky Park, and they SO don't count.

[Rubby]

It's the crowning irony that Skyclad are actually HUGE in Europe (only Metallica outsells them in the metal category in Greece) but totally unknown in the UK. Especially as their songs make constant use of British slang and other references and tend to be about things like Thatcherism, London, Merry England and what rotters the French are (though I suppose most Europeans can get behind that one).

Yeah, they do okay here. Meanwhile Martin felt he had to leave the band because he wasn't getting enough money out of it to live on.

People should buy more music.

Now that's just silly, I've never made enough money to live on with music (well no that's not true but those weren't very good times for me), yet I still play in bands. Come on you crazy metal heads.

[KharBevNor]

(see above)

Actually, Martin DID make enough money to live on with music, when I think about it. Well, barely at least. You can tell because after about 1995 every song stops being about how fucking poor he is. :p There's all sorts of delightful stories of him and Graeme English surviving for a month on nothing but cold baked bean sandwiches and at one point getting to the stage where their only liquid assets were 19 pence in their electricity meter. In fact, not selling out despite really having to scrape along at the bottom is one of the reasons I love Skyclad. Of every band I can think of, they have ABSOLUTE integrity.

[BeoPuppy]

(see above)

Actually, Martin DID make enough money to live on with music, when I think about it. You can tell because after about 1995 every song stops being about how fucking poor he is. :p There's all sorts of delightful stories of him and Graeme English surviving for a month on nothing but cold baked bean sandwiches and at one point getting to the stage where their only liquid assets were 19 pence in their electricity meter.

Delightful, I'm sure ...

I read somewhere that he quit the band in desperation after they did not want to go in search of a new distribution deal which would be more profitable.

And something with christmas, his kid and lack of presents.

Sad thing, really.

Are we slowly drifting off-topic a tad, by the way?

[KharBevNor]

I think he probably makes up a different reason each interview. Still one of my musical heroes though.

I mean...they already had a distribution deal with Nuclear Blast for Folkemon,  I find it hard to see how you really could get better than that...It's not like any major would likely touch Skyclad with a barge-pole.

[Kai]

Shh! Don't bring attention to that! We're talking about Skyclad right now.

[BeoPuppy]

I think he probably makes up a different reason each interview. Still one of my musical heroes though.

I mean...they already had a distribution deal with Nuclear Blast for Folkemon,  I find it hard to see how you really could get better than that...It's not like any major would likely touch Skyclad with a barge-pole.

It would be hard to accept Skyclad with a major label looking over their (awesome) lyrics.

[KharBevNor]

Damn right we are. SKYCLAD SKYCLAD SKYCLAD.

Indeed, I think I'll just put on a spot of the 'clad right now.

"Slaves to the only God they know
Drawn by the song of the cosmic diva
The Lord of the Flies is a dandy beau
King of the hill in the new Bohemia
Where does he come from their redeemer?
Where does he go? They never learn.
What is the price for the true believer
A quickening death in the womb of the worm. "

I think a good part of the genius of Martin's lyrics is that he understands the use of ALL lyrical poetic devices. So many people just rhyme ABAB or AABB. He cracks out the alliteration and the internal rhymes and the irregular rhyming schemes and crazy meters and goodness knows what. Absolute brilliance.

@BeoPuppy: Yeah, Penny Dreadful is about as embarrasing a song you could have in your catalogue on a major as you can get. Almost as bad as 'Sucks' by KMFDM (Wouldn't sell to a major for a couple of bucks, no doubt about it KMFDM Sucks!).

[BeoPuppy]

Oops.

Lyric fuck up ...

"Slaves to the only God they know
Drawn by the song of the cosmic diva
The Lord of the Flies is a dandy beau
King of the hill in the new Bohemia
Where does he come from their redeemer?
Where does he go? They never learn.
What is the price for the true believer
Rotting away in the womb of the worm.

Death is the hand of a handsome stranger.
He speaks, heads turn.
Babes unaware of impending danger,
Quickening death in the womb of the worm."


I'm SUCH a fanboy.

[KharBevNor]

I can never get all the different types of death in the womb right!

Aaaand now...THE most motormouthed song I've ever heard, 'Skyclad' itself. How the hell can he get his pronunciation so good?

"And whatever life may hand me I'll accept it with good grace;
For I'm just a simple lad with few ideas about my station,
So ale and song will apt suffice to keep me in my place.
How can you know the cost of everything yet never see its worth?
If you think because you've paid the piper you should call the tune:
Well think again my friend life is a game of chance.
By Fate's command we win or lose,
But still retain the right to choose
If we should stumble on, or shed our cares and DANCE!"

One of my fucking favourite segments of lyrics ever. And it looks like the next song is 'Something to Cling To', which means so much to me that if I'm drunk I cry when I listen to it.

[jcknbl]

Cerulaetas wrote:

Also, jcknbl, my musical tastes disagree with yours. Therefore, as per the rules of musical taste, I must try to convert you to listen to what I listen to.

Haha! Well I'm pretty sure you have no idea what my musical taste because its quite varied and I havn't really listed bands I like on this thread, I just listed some bands I hate and bands I don't mind.

On the other hand you're probably right. (I'm pretty sure the Heavenly you mentioned isn't the twee pop band ) But I'm not making my friend buy shit, just giving him some stuff to listen to. Ergo, I'm not buying any of that but if you'd make me a mix I'd definitely listen to it enthusiastically and you might very well convert me with one or two bands.

So as soon as you want to send that to me...

[BeoPuppy]

I've heard him do 'Skyclad' live and he manages it on a cramped stage too, even whilst diving to keep Graeme's mic upright. Small stage.


Something to cling to .. a positive Skyclad song. Scary shit.

[KharBevNor]

(I'm pretty sure the Heavenly you mentioned isn't the twee pop band )

I've actually seen quite a few people on last.fm complaining because when their radio plays them Heavenly it's nasty scawy music that hurts their twee little ears.

MUAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Nemba]

I think all you guys who are trying to be helpful are very admirable, but you seem to have missed something...

Deerhoof is his favourite band.

This means his oppinion is automaically useless and void and he definitely shouldn't be telling people what to listen to.

[size=0]:P I'm kidding. Please don't hurt me. How about starting with something accessible like, say, the Flaming Lips? I haven't met anyone yet who doesn't like them, and it's easy to branch out from there.[/size]

[jcknbl]

Nemba's first two tracks listed from the Playlist tread.

1. Sting - Brand new day
2. Peter Gabriel - Come Talk to Me

That is all.

[Bastardous Bassist]

if he likes creed, he likes creed.

I think what everyone is missing here is that, if someone says they like Creed, or even if they think they like Creed, they are wrong.  What they are really saying is "Help me, please!"

p.s.  Nickelback are Creed Jr.  Anybody who tries to imitate Creed are so insipidly bad that every time I think about them, I want to shoot myself, thus Nickelback is a far worse band, and I'm going to wrap this post up before I end my own life because of sheer annoyance.

[Kai]

Nemba's first two tracks listed from the Playlist tread.

1. Sting - Brand new day
2. Peter Gabriel - Come Talk to Me

That is all.

Touche.

[citylights]

zing.

all i have to say is that nickelback have won the ugliest band in the world since time began.

that is all.

[E. Spaceman]

Nemba's first two tracks listed from the Playlist tread.

1. Sting - Brand new day
2. Peter Gabriel - Come Talk to Me

That is all.

Hey, I kinda like Peter Gabriel.  SLEDGEHAMMER!

[Cerulaetas]

Haha! Well I'm pretty sure you have no idea what my musical taste because its quite varied and I havn't really listed bands I like on this thread, I just listed some bands I hate and bands I don't mind.

Meh, I'm just being so tongue-in-cheek that I believe my tongue is now in the next room over, and I'm going to have to go retrieve it.  I'm not too concerned with changing people's musical tastes, most of the people I know around here like indie (hell, I live in "the indie capitol of the world"), which I'm not too fond of, and I think it could be said that most of the people I know aren't too fond of my music either (or at least, wouldn't be too fond of it if they knew what I listened to).

That being said, people tend to find it annoying when others try to change their musical tastes, especially with repeated efforts, and I guess it's just best to avoid the musical issue.  So, rather than constantly arguing about what's getting played on the car speakers, try to find a bunch of CDs that you can both agree that you'd listen to, and use those for the car rides.  That way you won't have to argue over who's got control of the stereo or whether somebody's music sucks or what.

And no, the Heavenly I mentioned isn't a twee pop band

[Nemba]

Nemba's first two tracks listed from the Playlist tread.

1. Sting - Brand new day
2. Peter Gabriel - Come Talk to Me

That is all.

You obviously didn't read my post entirely.

Sometimes there are hidden meanings.

Edit: And both of those are plenty good enough to warrant having somewhere in the depths of a large music library.

[nescience]

zing.

all i have to say is that nickelback have won the ugliest band in the world since time began.

that is all.

Hee hee... people throw rocks at Nickelback.

[BeoPuppy]

zing.

all i have to say is that nickelback have won the ugliest band in the world since time began.

that is all.

Hee hee... people throw rocks at Nickelback.

That might improve them.

[jcknbl]

Nemba: I'm never serious about fights over music taste. Also, not gonna lie, I really like that song from Say Anything .

IN YOU EYES! The light the heat! (YOUR EYES!) I am complete! (YOUR EYES!)



Oh wet John Cusack how you have changed our lives!



Also small text takes way too long to read and Deerhoof is still awesome. Am I the only one who really likes how this thread was hijacked by Skyclad???

[Misereatur]

It's the crowning irony that Skyclad are actually HUGE in Europe (only Metallica outsells them in the metal category in Greece) but totally unknown in the UK. Especially as their songs make constant use of British slang and other references and tend to be about things like Thatcherism, London, Merry England and what rotters the French are (though I suppose most Europeans can get behind that one).

Unfortunately, they're not very big here, either.
I walked into the biggest (and only) metal store in israel and asked the guy behind the counter (who is, incidentally, Orphaned Land's bass player) if they have any Skyclad albums.
He replyed: "umm.. who?"

I wanted to cry.

Sorry for going off topic, go on.

[KharBevNor]

Nah, I'm loving it too. Skyclad are my favourite band ever, talking about them to someone is awesome.

Something to cling to .. a positive Skyclad song. Scary shit.

Oh, come on, they're a really positive band, in my eyes. Sure, they have some real downer tracks ('The One Piece Puzzle', 'Terminus', 'Postcard From Planet Earth', the acoustic version of 'Sins of Emission', etc.) but they've also got some of the most ridiculously quirky and upbeat songs about depression, suicide, war, loathing etc. I can think of ('Building a Ruin', 'Helium', 'Fainting By Numbers', etc.) and their socio-political tracks in particular just brim with a brilliant sort of unquenchable defiance.  I think I'm probably going to have "I'll party on in Acheron!" inscribed on my grave.

I mean, I'm sure part of it is the fact that the wordplay just wipes a permanent grin across my face. Also, I hate you. I would kill a thousand kittens to see Skyclad live with Martin.

[nescience]

zing.

all i have to say is that nickelback have won the ugliest band in the world since time began.

that is all.

Hee hee... people throw rocks at Nickelback.

That might improve them.

It did.

[citylights]

all i can say to explain is this:

wee chad kroeger being born. doctor promptly pulls out the ugly stick. commences beating little chad with it.

2 years later: chad playing with legos in the yard. from inside the house "time for your daily beating, chad!" calls his mother. chad ambles inside, commence beating.

years later: news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/ hi/music/newsid_2071000/2071919.stm

[nescience]

I happen to think that Supergrass are collectively the ugliest person in rock, but Kroeger comes close.

[citylights]

WOW. that is indeed a collectively ugly person.

but what i was surprised about was that matthew bellamy was voted for in the 'uglies person in rock' category.

he's a fox!

[Bastardous Bassist]

No, I'm sorry.  Ugliest person in rock would have to be Lemmy.

[Misereatur]

WOW. that is indeed a collectively ugly person.

but what i was surprised about was that matthew bellamy was voted for in the 'uglies person in rock' category.

he's a fox!

Definitelly, I'm a guy and I want to bang him.. wait.. was that out loud??


And yes, Supergrass and Motorhead are probably the ugliest bands in rock.
One might even think of Thom Yorke, but he kicks ass.

[citylights]

i'm a girl and i'd bang him 10 times fast.

AND he's a musical genius.

merrrrr i melt for matthew.

[Bastardous Bassist]

Pfff.  That's nothing special.  All girls want to hit that.  Misereatur, on the other hand, is demonstrating how comfortable with his sexuality he is.  Either that or he actually is gay.  I mean, uh, not that there's anything wrong with that, dude.  I'm just going to stand over here now, if that's cool with you.

Please don't make me gay.

[citylights]

you made me gay, girl...you made me day...I THOUGHT YOU LIKED IT THAT WAY!...you made me gay...

that said and done with...*matthew bellamy is a fox*

[KharBevNor]

Yeah, but any rock chick IN THE WORLD would bang Lemmy at three seconds notice. FACT.

[Cerulaetas]

Yeah, but any rock chick IN THE WORLD would bang Lemmy at three seconds notice. FACT.

Three seconds notice?  Uh... what about the foreplay?

I walked into the biggest (and only) metal store in israel and asked the guy behind the counter (who is, incidentally, Orphaned Land's bass player) if they have any Skyclad albums.
He replyed: "umm.. who?"

YOU HAVE METAL STORES IN ISRAEL?  I am jealous... the only things we have out here are indie rock stores... NOT MY CUP OF TEA.  And if stores do sell metal, they sell crappy Americanized nu-metal.  Heck, I walked into a really big music store downtown looking for Nightwish - Once, and they didn't have it.  I even asked the people who worked there and they were all like, "Nightwish who?"

[KharBevNor]

Isreal is metal as fuck.

Lemmy? Foreplay? This is how it goes:

Lemmy: Oi!
Metal chick: Aye!
(unpleasant organic noises)

[Bastardous Bassist]

Yeah, but any rock chick IN THE WORLD would bang Lemmy at three seconds notice. FACT.

I never said this wasn't the case.  I just said he's ugly as sin.

[Bunnyman]

That being said, Cake is probably the least musically offensive stuff out there. Pretty much nobody minds them, most like them.

<- Exception to rule.

I generally live and let live, but play MY music whenever I have the opportunity.  Believe it or not, a lot of people really like Cannibal Ox.

[Storm Rider]

Cake is so ridiculously boring it's not even funny.

[citylights]

i went to the dc 101 chili cook-off and cake played a set...i was about to shoot myself in the face.

[Cerulaetas]

Isreal is metal as fuck.

This is not questioned.  I am just jealous because I have not as of yet had the opportunity to live in a locale that has any metal stores.

Lemmy? Foreplay? This is how it goes:

Lemmy: Oi!
Metal chick: Aye!
(unpleasant organic noises)

Ok, now I have to ask: who is Lemmy, and if he's so ugly, why is he so... coveted? by the ladies?

EDIT:

Cake is so ridiculously boring it's not even funny.

HE'S GOING THE DISTANCE, HE'S GOING FOR SPEEEED...

[citylights]

goddamn john mccrea and his monotonous drawl of a voice:/

[Bastardous Bassist]

i went to the dc 101 chili cook-off and cake played a set...i was about to shoot myself in the face.

I remember some of my friends going up from Charleston to see them at that event.  I was rather surprised.  I've actually never been to one, but I did go to an HFStival in, I think, '00.

p.s.  Lemmy is the bassist/vocalist in Motorhead (with more umlauts than I can type using my US keyboard).  I have no idea why he is coveted by the ladies (well, the fact that he's awesomely badass may have something to do with it), but here's why he's ugly (note the warts):

[ozphactor]

That being said, Cake is probably the least musically offensive stuff out there. Pretty much nobody minds them, most like them.

I don't know why, but this is entirely true. Some of their stuff I like, some of their stuff is "meh," but none of it is what I would consider awful. And on top of that, I can't think of another band remotely like them. It's weird.