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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 14 Oct 2012, 05:46
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And we go into week two of the party - and week two of our fearless leader's attempts to stop smoking!
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Gabby makes a good point. Why aren't they there?
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Pretty sure QC only makes sense if you look at it as a giant love letter to Azumanga Daioh.
(on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/257354614662377472))
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Fortunately, that's not a necessary condition.
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But is it sufficient?
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Prediction!
An important plot point will happen on Friday because:
A) Jeph likes putting twists on Fridays
B) Jeph likes putting twists at the century mark.
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Doubtful, it's too early for the annual Thanksgiving twist.
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Prediction!
An important plot point will happen on Friday because:
A) Jeph likes putting twists on Fridays
B) Jeph likes putting twists at the century mark.
Or the twist will be that there is no twist. Instead the strip will instantly turn into a gag-a-day.
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Gabby makes a good point. Why aren't they there?
Um, the same reason no-one else is there yet, I imagine. They haven't arrived yet.
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Or have they??
>_>
<_<
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Gabby makes a good point. Why aren't they there?
Um, the same reason no-one else is there yet, I imagine. They haven't arrived yet.
That's not a very creative reason.
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That's not a very creative reason.
Sorry. I forgot to mention that the reason they haven't arrived yet is because they are arriving via their new experimental flying mobile library and café. But it will be such an entrance, no-one will care that they are late.
Edit: well, that "neighbor of the beast" post worked out ok.
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Speaking of twists. Will there be Twister (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twister_%28game%29)?
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I didn't really consider the possibility of something happening to Dora and Tai on the drive over until I saw the poll option. But I honestly think it's really likely, because it's been just long enough since establishing that Dora heavily impacts Tai's driving (Somebody linked to the strip in last week's WCDT...), and it would make sense with timing. If it's just the two of them heading out to this place that's really out of the way, then it really seems likely that Tai will be as easily distracted as she was in the car ride with Faye.
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Note that the rope materialises in mid-air - Hanners arrived through a worm-hole!
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Note that the rope materialises in mid-air - Hanners arrived through a worm-hole!
Invisicopter!
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It is also of note that I first read panel 2's speech as Gabby's butt talking...
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that...why does the rope end in midair?
well,seems like there's an invisible spaceship thingy there, or something.
Actually, being able to conceal something this big completely sure does sound like something Hanner's father would manage to achieve.
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It is also of note that I first read panel 2's speech as Gabby's butt talking...
now why would you do that O_o
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
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New cloaking device upgrade for the Roomba!
Also, are those houses in the background being devoured by trees? And what the heck is that blue strip under the ground?
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That lake is confusing the hell out of my eyes.
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mine too
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Given today's acheivement, I'm surprised Hanners didn't parachute from space.
However, the Invisicopter is a pretty cool second choice!
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For comic #2296...
1. I was amused by how Faye's expression is frozen for panels #2 & #4.
2. The wide lake shot is probably confusing due to Hanners being lowered down from "nothing," it throws off the depth-perception of the shot.
3. It will be interesting to see if anyone from the QC cast besides Dora & Tai will be coming.
4. The obvious answer for Hanners' ride... (it's even in the comic title!)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fhPzaLzPlEw/TH1HyYHMzdI/AAAAAAAAB6o/9VotBNMh-HQ/s1600/wonder_woman_plane_2.gif)
5. P.S. Edit Add: And because it will probably be asked, Wonder Woman's invisible plane, through most of its incarnations through the decades, was capable of silent flight and VTOL.
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Maybe it is even an invisible submacopter (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1294).
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That lake is confusing the hell out of my eyes.
The blue strip is simply wrong - the reflection should start at the shore, as on the right-hand side of the picture.
<shrug>
Alongside Hanners appearing from a worm-hole/invisicopter/whatever in the sky, that seems a trivial concern.
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Breaking (or almost-breaking) waves can make a band kinda like that. But it will obscure part of the reflection ...
(Actually, given the angles – we seem to be looking down, even at Hanners – I would expect parts of the reflection to be obscured anyway. It looks like a flat view, or a view from a position at the mirror surface. No depth. Not that I'd complain: I get my money's worth, and more. Just an observation.)
Yeah, I have no idea what that strip is supposed to be.
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Maybe it's an artificial lake and the blue strip is the pool wall?
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
Thank you for giving me an excuse to use this:
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/wayf_photos/HorriblepunfoulONE_zps9f216b88.gif)
Jeph says on Twitter "tonight is an 8 out of 10 on the why do I bother scale".
Might I suggest that the reason why you bother, Jeph, is that everything about today's comic is completely amazing. :D
And yes, I do believe that was an invisible helicopter or plane of some kind.
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Hanners doesn't always make an entrance, but when she does..
She uses a stealth copter... I am unnaturally jealous right now, that's like every boys dream, A Stealth Copter and something naked.
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@WAYF, you've had oh so many opportunities to use that, I'm shocked I've never seen it before.
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I only actually saved it to my hard drive recently. Believe me, I have wanted to use that a LOT.
I'm just glad somebody recognized it. :P
(Now if I could just find a .gif of strikes two and three...)
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
Thank you for giving me an excuse to use this:
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/wayf_photos/HorriblepunfoulONE_zps9f216b88.gif)
LOL I definitely had a hearty laugh at that gif.
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Hanners doesn't always make an entrance, but when she does..
She drinks Dos Equis?
Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham, the most interesting girl in the QC world.
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I am just going to say that that is the best entrance ever, hands down.
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The weird blue band probably results from Jeph drawing a curved lakeshore, then inverting the image to create a reflection and the two shores not matching up. I'll bet he fixes it.
Also: A football ref calling balls and strikes? Well, I'm glad the NFL replacement refs found work.
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Also: A football ref calling balls and strikes? Well, I'm glad the NFL replacement refs found work.
A strike is when the ball strikes the batter, right?
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Hanners wins moment of the week. Not even debatable. Oh Hanners, you look so damn cute with that knowing little smirk.
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
Thank you for giving me an excuse to use this:
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/wayf_photos/HorriblepunfoulONE_zps9f216b88.gif)
Wait, isn't that the thingsonmyhead guy? HE SPEAKS?
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OK whilst I do really like today's strip, I feel like it is part of a recent slide into more absurdism than before. Maybe that's the influence of Jeph feeling rotten from the smoking thing - or maybe he just felt like taking it in a new direction. I sort of hope it's the former, as that will eventually pass. I liked the fact that QC generally feels realistic even when it's featuring sentient computers and holographic projections of space ships in love with humans.
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This is still the bildup for the party, guests are ariving etc. Wonder how long will this arc be when it is second week and main events, whatever they may be, still haven't started. I believe that the space arc had around week and a half of buildup and it lasted for sixty strips. This one has the potential to be even longer. Especially since the entire main cast could, potentially, be at the party.
As for Hanner's entrance, amazing entrance, no doubt about it and probably moment of the week right here at the start of said week. But, what's interesting, is this a throw-away gag about Wonder Woman for this strip only or will this can this be considered new addition to the lore of QC. QC Earth has developed, amongst other things, true stealth planes, perhaps?
Also, there are very clearly loads of other houses on the shore of the lake so, unless a gigantic squid comes out of it, the whole "horror" buildup of going to the isolated house in a forest isn't there. So, maybe this arc won't be Halloween themed? Though, that does depend on the lenght of the arc as well, which might be extensive, since there are still sixteen days 'till Halloween.
Aside from that, this might signify improved relationship between Hanners and her dad, assuming he built whatever is carrying her, since before this episode Hanners never used extensive wealth of her parents (beside's that one time she bought a restaurant where Marty got poisoned) or her father's many inventions. This is the first longer arc since the space one and it might be that their relationship has improved. Also important to note, this would probably also qualify as a showcase of just far she had come, from completely anxiety and OCD ridden to the much more confident and brave Hanners of today. I wouldn't dare jump out of a halicopter/plane/whatever it is that brought her, while hanging on a rope.
And ,finally, my first post here. woot!
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As for Hanner's entrance, amazing entrance, no doubt about it and probably moment of the week right here at the start of said week. But, what's interesting, is this a throw-away gag about Wonder Woman for this strip only or will this can this be considered new addition to the lore of QC. QC Earth has developed, amongst other things, true stealth planes, perhaps?
I'm pretty sure it's just a gag. Prediction: Next strip will be Hanners casually brushing off any questions and Dora and Tai arrive.
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I'm pretty sure it's just a gag. Prediction: Next strip will be Hanners casually brushing off any questions and Dora and Tai arrive.
That seems to be happening a lot lately, though. First, everyone casually brushing off Emily's entrance with no mention of it so far and now ingoring amazing piece of high-tech. I mean, this is a post-singularity sentient AI world, but still, one would think that such advancement in tech would be somewhat important, especially since no one seems to know about it, judging by faces in the last panel. Maybe Hannerdad developed these airplanes for US military. Maybe that's (among other important inventions) why there was a military presence on the space-station.
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I'm pretty sure it's just a gag. Prediction: Next strip will be Hanners casually brushing off any questions and Dora and Tai arrive.
That seems to be happening a lot lately, though. First, everyone casually brushing off Emily's entrance with no mention of it so far and now ingoring amazing piece of high-tech. I mean, this is a post-singularity sentient AI world, but still, one would think that such advancement in tech would be somewhat important, especially since no one seems to know about it, judging by faces in the last panel. Maybe Hannerdad developed these airplanes for US military. Maybe that's (among other important inventions) why there was a military presence on the space-station.
Well the gang (Marten and Marigold especially) are aware of Hannerdad's works. I'm pretty sure they would know enough to not be disclosing information like that all willy nilly. Considering all the stuff that has happened to them as well I'm pretty sure they could brush this off as "At least there aren't assholes all over the walls."
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The weird blue band probably results from Jeph drawing a curved lakeshore, then inverting the image to create a reflection and the two shores not matching up. I'll bet he fixes it.
That's it, really. If he didn't want to have to redraw (or at least heavily-distort) the background to make the reflection, the shore needed to be pretty much ruler-straight, with any deviation kept entirely within the area of sand.
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
Well played.
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They didn't say hello to Gabby!
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Whackball theory: They are delivering the new upgraded model of Hannerdroid in this strip.... Due to it arriving late at lab, they had to lower her in from behind the holomatrix.
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They didn't say hello to Gabby!
It's funny how that is the only thing that raised my eyebrows tbh...
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For comic #2296...
1. I was amused by how Faye's expression is frozen for panels #2 & #4.
2. The wide lake shot is probably confusing due to Hanners being lowered down from "nothing," it throws off the depth-perception of the shot.
3. It will be interesting to see if anyone from the QC cast besides Dora & Tai will be coming.
4. The obvious answer for Hanners' ride... (it's even in the comic title!)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fhPzaLzPlEw/TH1HyYHMzdI/AAAAAAAAB6o/9VotBNMh-HQ/s1600/wonder_woman_plane_2.gif)
5. P.S. Edit Add: And because it will probably be asked, Wonder Woman's invisible plane, through most of its incarnations through the decades, was capable of silent flight and VTOL.
Whenever I see Wonder Woman, I always think of... WONDA WOMAAAAAAAAAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExS2hTIrI0)
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You guys.
You guuuys.
Hanners already explained it. It's nothing. The rope wasn't attached to anything. Hannerdad has developed flying rope.
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A stealthed flying machine? I dunno, Hanners. I just can't see it.
Thank you for giving me an excuse to use this:
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk86/wayf_photos/HorriblepunfoulONE_zps9f216b88.gif)
Wait, isn't that the thingsonmyhead guy? HE SPEAKS?
You only know Paul Saunders as the guy who does/used to do ThingsOnMyHead?
HOKAY. Power of viral videos, apparently. :P
The guy in the referee uniform is Paul Saunders (http://wiki.loadingreadyrun.com/index.php/Paul_Saunders), and he along with his friend Graham Stark have a comedy video website called LoadingReadyRun (http://loadingreadyrun.com/), which is really amazing. They do all kinds of stuff, including their own sketch comedy videos, MST3K-style video game cutscene analysis, gaming news for Penny Arcade TV, and a panel discussion of weird news (which is where the gif is from).
Incidentally, ThingsOnMyHead was part of a plan for each LoadingReadyRun crew member to do their own brand of fake viral video (partly as a parody, partly to draw traffic to their website). ThingsOnMyHead seems to have been far and away the most popular.
So yes, the guy from ThingsOnMyHead does speak. A lot. :P
I also have gifs of strike 2 and 3 on hand, in case DSL feels like being funny again (and knowing DSL...)
Must.. not... derail thread...
Is Emily's house just out in the middle of nowhere? I don't really know what my perception of the geography of the QC-verse should be like.
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5. P.S. Edit Add: And because it will probably be asked, Wonder Woman's invisible plane, through most of its incarnations through the decades, was capable of silent flight and VTOL.
I was thinking invisible solar-powered dirigible to deal with the lack of noise and downwash from rotors or VTOL jets. I was assuming no flying-saucer-style reactionless propulsion, because, you know, those pesky laws of physics (http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/reactionlessdrive.php) and all that. A glitch in the stealth-field caused by lowering Hanners through the interface is the obvious explanation for the blue streak along the waterfront.
Presumably Hanners wears some sort of body-suit in her role as Wonder Woman? :wink:
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Hanners is not Pizza girl!
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Let's get the party STARTED! What's next?
Swimming and food and games and... uhm, yeah. 4 (8.2%)
Didn't you guys hear? It was supposed to be a costume party! 0 (0%)
Gabby openly wonders why Tai and Dora aren't there yet. 6 (12.2%)
Claire shows up - with her stupid brother in tow. ("I thought Hannelore would be here!") 1 (2%)
Meanwhile, Tai and Dora are stuck on the side of the road. Literally. (Tai wasn't paying attention...) 5 (10.2%)
Sven shows up. 1 (2%)
DALE shows up. 9 (18.4%)
Sven and Dale fight over Marigold! 3 (6.1%)
Marigold fights over the vintage copy of Super Mario World 2! 5 (10.2%)
Emily doesn't mention what she added to the punch. 5 (10.2%)
Elephants! Dragons! Hee eheeheheheheeeee! 0 (0%)
The snacks include Waffles, Spathe Ham - and BANANA SMOOTHIES! 1 (2%)
Someone give Jeph another piece of Nicorette or something. 2 (4.1%)
Seriously - if he has to draw 1,000 bonercats to stop smoking, DO EEEETTT!!!! 7 (14.3%)
Total Members Voted: 49[/i]
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Hanners is not Pizza girl!
...But, but... but RANDY says she IS! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1977)
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Hanners is not Pizza girl!
...But, but... but RANDY says she IS! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1977)
No, no . . . Randy said Penelope is Pizza Girl, which is what Faye has contended all along anyway.
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No, that's Hanners in the final panel.
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To be fair, even at the time, only Akima actually noticed that it was Hannelore, not Penelope if I remember correctly.
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That background pattern is making me cross-eyed :psyduck:
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It's pretty obvious that it's Hanners from the hair. That being said, there's a chance I didn't realize it at the time, so fair enough.
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Penelope wouldn't need the wig. Short-haired Hanners would.
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And yes, I do believe that was an invisible helicopter or plane of some kind.
Or a Hindu fakir's ropeclimbing trick... in reverse.
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Soon there will be a plot twist: Emily is Pizza Girl.
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I have just received a message from the Klingon High Council
They want their Cloaking Device back.
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That is awesome, also is it me or does Hannelore seem to be drawn differently. And as I didn't mention it before, Marigolds "I like Videogames" was friggin adorkable.
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[ ... ] adorkable.
Best. Word. Ever.
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The one thing I noticed about the lake is that Hanners doesn't seem to have a reflection. Should the gang start breaking out the garlic?
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The one thing I noticed about the lake is that Hanners doesn't seem to have a reflection. [ ... ]
That seems to be due to perspective. Her reflection would be in front of the jetty from this comic's point of view.
... but if not. God help us. Space science vampires! °O
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Good explanation. Except for the niggling detail that the reflection is otherwise perfectly void of perspective. ;-)
(Still not complaining. Just observing.)
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Is it just my computer, or is the image not loading properly? Gabby looks weird in the color wash, and the thing above Hanners flashes for a second and disappears.
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How can there be a gif-gag if it's a jpg? oO
Good explanation. Except for the niggling detail that the reflection is otherwise perfectly void of perspective. ;-)
[ ... ]
In that case they're all vampires and this strip has turned into Eerie Questionable Cuties. :P
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Soulsynger: Watch the bottom panel. It's an animated gag.
And you're seeing it correctly, cesariojpn. The news post says this:
All that awful compression just for a really subtle animated gif gag, oh well
I managed to get a screenshot of when the vehicle flashes in. So I did a crude outline of it for anyone who can't really see it.
(http://i.imgur.com/uoCP0.png)
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Soulsynger: Watch the bottom panel. It's an animated gag.
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Oh, I've seen it. But that wasn't the question...
For me it's just permanently visible now.
And this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/2297.jpg) is the url for today's comic's file. Which is .jpg. °O
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TwitterJeph explains: "That turned out awful, just uploaded a non-animated version as well"
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As well, meaning the animated version is also uploaded? I can't find it.
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Same here, I was late to the animated-gif party it seems.. :-\
Also, Marten groping Gabby in the second panel. And she's like "aw come on".
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The gif is still there. (http://questionablecontent.net/comics/2297.gif)
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Huh. Thanks. Doesn't look that bad.
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Mmf. QC never (blatantly) broke the laws of physics before, so I'm gonna go with Akima's handwaving post. A VTOL / hovercraft / helicopter would have screaming downwash, and the surface of the lake is like a sheet of glass, not to mention Gabby, Marten, Faye standing right there. The idea of a cloaked airship is much better than trying to swallow reactionless drives or something.
Is more-or-less perfect optic camo a theoretical possibility? Maybe. Getting close in the real world, and QC is quite a bit more advanced.
pwhodges, thanks for the gif. Actually wasn't supposed to be completely perfect optic camo.
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Well, after all, nobody's perfect...
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Near-perfect optical camo is possible assuming you're OK with not being able to see out (this is one of the things I really liked about the original Doom; the invisible demons and the invisibility ring still had their/your eyes visible so you could see) either. And silent is relatively easy if you have big enough speakers to put out the inverted form of the engine noise–which can be pretty damn quiet anyway if you use low turbulence ducted fans.
As for downdraft, that's directly proportional to the weight of the vessel and the more you can spread it out the less it will be felt by someone underneath. A low mass with a proportionately large rotor could produce a vehicle with a downdraft that could be perceived as a breeze.
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Also, Marten groping Gabby in the second panel.
There have been other strips where Marten swinging his arm while walking has been open to misinterpretation.
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Hey wait, the invisible dirigible is a HannerMOM project?
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Of course it would be a HannerMom project. It's a stealth blimp.
I'm not exactly sure, but I'd assume the little "dip" on the left of the bottom panel is a tailfin/stabilizer, and the little bulge right above Hannelore is the gondola. This being a ECT vehicle, it of course has an AI driving.
And just recall the "Vanish" from Die Another Day. Micro-lenses weaved into a blimp covering could theoretically hide itself by using cameras and tiny LCD's to show the other side of the blimp.
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5. P.S. Edit Add: And because it will probably be asked, Wonder Woman's invisible plane, through most of its incarnations through the decades, was capable of silent flight and VTOL.
I was thinking invisible solar-powered dirigible to deal with the lack of noise and downwash from rotors or VTOL jets. I was assuming no flying-saucer-style reactionless propulsion, because, you know, those pesky laws of physics (http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/reactionlessdrive.php) and all that. A glitch in the stealth-field caused by lowering Hanners through the interface is the obvious explanation for the blue streak along the waterfront.
Presumably Hanners wears some sort of body-suit in her role as Wonder Woman? :wink:
quantum levitation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuEY2bm-W50)?
according to this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXHczjOg06w), the superconducting layer on that 3" disk is half a micron thick & will support 70,000x it's own weight. he goes on to say that the same 3"disk, with a 2mm layer would support up to 1000kg.
so then the question is: would it be possible, given a sufficient quantity of the superconductor, to achieve the same locking effect on a larger scale, using the earth's natural magnetic field (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkyLnWm1iCs)?
also: and just for the coolness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqmdv5iyIOY)
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Also, Marten groping Gabby in the second panel.
There have been other strips where Marten swinging his arm while walking has been open to misinterpretation.
Hehe. Does this mean you've got more examples of Marten's sneaky tendencies?
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This one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1989) isn't the one I was thinking of, but shows the same effect.
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Didn't think of Marten's arm placement - I was just wondering where Hanner-Mom got the Thunderhawk (http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics14/img4ac906f85f9a6.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/233348&usg=__oguj8Na4cQLvDr-W3YfIs2LYAvk=&h=485&w=800&sz=294&hl=en&start=13&zoom=1&tbnid=QRiMItda-czirM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=143&ei=l4B9UO6MK8TO0QH85IHwBA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dthunderhawk%2Bgunship%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26gbv%3D2%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1) from.
Unless she's got something on the Fabricator General....
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Is Emily's house just out in the middle of nowhere?
It's her parents' lake house (i.e., a fancy cottage) so, yes, it likely is in the middle of nowhere.
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The gif is still there. (http://questionablecontent.net/comics/2297.gif)
Nope, still not getting it to work.
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Then I can't help; the link I gave is still good. Try using a different browser or something.
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Maybe I'm stupid, but I just noticed that the character's hair is done in 3D with with flat 2d outline. And once I've noticed it, it was difficult to ignore.
And this is shaping up to be a long arc, we're ten strips in and the it is still buildup (or maybe the buildup IS the arc? /wildtheory) what with everyone coming and preparing for the party and not even all the main characters are still there. I'm guessing this arc will last untill sometime in November.
Today's strip is merely continuation of the previous one's so it doesn't resolve any questions, but if I had to guess, I'd wager on Marten getting/attempting to get a girl as a likely part of this arc. He is closest thing to a main character we have and both of the previous girls, namely Lt. Potter who outright rejected him and Padma which ended the way it ended, were unsuccessful and short-lived. As for likely girl, we may get completely new character (maybe one of friends Emily invited since this is her party?) or, though I don't want to break the rules and ship anyone, one of the existing characters. Though Marten and dating is at an odd place, both of the girls he would be most likely to end up with are in happy relationships and it's difficult to impossible to pair him with anyone else from the established female characters, so maybe the whole "Marten will never be happy" (I'm paraphrasing) is true.
One thing, today's strip does nothing to advance the plot and it certainly doesn't narrow any of the possibilities of what may happen in the arc. I mean I like random gag strips and Hannelore would probably be my favorite character if I had to choose but I'm curious to see what will happen with the arc.
Is Emily's house just out in the middle of nowhere?
From what I can tell, it's in the middle of nowhere in a sense that it is in forest well off the beaten path but there are clearly houses on the lake so there may be people in them. Those are all vacation houses so they are obviously empty for most of the year but it isn't impossible for few of them to have people.
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Of course it would be a HannerMom project. It's a stealth blimp.
Yes! Blimp or rigid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airship), a stealth airship is just the sort of thing that would appeal to a Bond-villain-esque corporate overlady. And of course it would be run by an AI.
Quantum levitation? As far as I am aware, the floating disks in these demonstrations always hover over the pole(s) of the magnet(s) as a consequence of the Meissner Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect). The Earth's magnetic field (http://www.unc.edu/depts/oceanweb/turtles/geomag.html) has its poles at the North and South magnetic poles, so I suspect that, even if all the practical problems of engineering a self-contained superconducting hover-ship were solved, you might well find you could only hover over Northern Canada or just off the coast of Antarctica, areas possibly of little interest to a super-villain. The intensity of the Earth's magnetic field varies, being strongest over the magnetic poles and weakest at the equator. At its strongest, it is roughly 1/200th of the strength of a fridge-magnet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(magnetic_field)) at around 65µT, or much less that one millionth of of the strength of the neodymium magnets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neodymium_magnet) I'll bet these demos use.
Disclaimer: I am not a physicist, and I have not studied physics since high-school.
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Still no hello for Gabby :cry:
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Disclaimer: I am not a physicist, and I have not studied physics since high-school.
Akima the Eidetic has a ring and a rhythm to it.
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Still no hello for Gabby :cry:
I really doubt it bothers someone who doesn't believe in altruism.
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Plot prediction: Marten drowns and Faye takes her top off.
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Plot prediction: Marten drowns and Faye takes her top off.
In the reverse order, and for good reason.
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Don't make HannerMom mad
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She'll find out where you do your shopping, buy the entire mall, and burn it out of spite.
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Does anyone see what is animated?
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It's a flashing version of the same very faint outline that you can just make out in the last frame of the jpg that replaced the gif.
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There's actually an animation? I just assumed it was a joke since the image is a jpeg rather than a gif, and that format doesn't (so far as I know) allow frame animations.
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Please read the rest of the thread. The comic was an animated gif originally, and there's a link to the original on the previous page of this thread.
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Of course it would be a HannerMom project. It's a stealth blimp.
I'm not exactly sure, but I'd assume the little "dip" on the left of the bottom panel is a tailfin/stabilizer, and the little bulge right above Hannelore is the gondola. This being a ECT vehicle, it of course has an AI driving.
And just recall the "Vanish" from Die Another Day. Micro-lenses weaved into a blimp covering could theoretically hide itself by using cameras and tiny LCD's to show the other side of the blimp.
Oh GOD! Let's not recall ANYTHING of that movie, if possible. I mean, you thought the series hit a low note with Moonraker and then they made Die Another Day! :D
There is some work towards this sort of cloaking system but it's a way off yet. Not sure why people are questioning the science here when fully sentient AIs are far, far less likely than all the Roswell Area 51 type stealth plane stuff being real (which is what Jeph's playing off, I reckon).
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It's not as far off as you think. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWtcz9PMFHo)
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But now consider parallax, i.e. the requirement to present a different image for each angle of view. Suddenly the difficulties go up a lot.
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Maybe I'm stupid, but I just noticed that the character's hair is done in 3D with with flat 2d outline. And once I've noticed it, it was difficult to ignore.
Nope, the character's hair aren't done in 3D - it's a custom Photoshop brush Jeph uses that just makes it look that way, using shades and tints of the base hair color. If you can ever catch the livestreams of the comic, you can see it in action :-)
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Hm. Faye's swimming outfit I presume?
Also, most adorkable Emily yet?
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considering that they have hologram technology, they might be able to use that to make it appear invisible, letting through sunlight to prevent shadows might be more tricky.
I like yellow bell peppers, and then the red ones. Don't really like green ones.
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Self-confident, extrovert, talkative, adorkable hermit ...
Emily is beyond quirky. 8-)
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For comic #2298...
1. Wow, having Faye's scar so pronounced with her swimsuit top. Though I was a bit hoping for something a bit more skin-showing overall :evil: . Perhaps when we get to Marigold's borrowed swimsuit. (Or for a real twist, Hannelore in a bikini.)
2. Yay, Steve & Cosette. Unfortunately, it sounds like no Wil & Penelope, or Raven, to be coming (I suppose the latter two would be needed to be running Coffee of Doom). It also sounds like no others to be coming, but we will see.
3. Art-wise, Emily looks very good for panel #3. I think it is the combination of her facial expression and hair-style.
4. I also find the color scheme between the three (Faye's red, Marten's blue, & Emily's purple/lavender?) eye-catching too. Perhaps that was meant to foreshadow the punchline?
5. [Marten]: "Oh lord, we've adopted another one." The punchline works so well with it between Marten & Faye. It is a testament of how far QC has come from a trio of young indies & an AnthroPC, to a Simpsons-level cast (Hank Azaria to voice Marten, if not most of the male QC-cast). It also works with how Marten's shoulders are slumped in resignation, while Faye has a "yep, another one" stance with crossed-arms.
6. Bell peppers are great to work with for cooking. Besides being nutritious, they add great color to the visible palatte.
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It's not as far off as you think. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWtcz9PMFHo)
I was thinking of that when I said it was 'way off'. Have you seen the rig involved in doing that? It's also one-sided, etc. It *is* incredibly cool, though. :)
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It's official: until they become a main character, no one has a previous existence before appearing in the comic. When they become sufficiently important, God retcons reality to give them one.
ALTtheory 1: Marten is Haruhi and Pintsize is Kyon.
ALTtheory 2: Faye is Haruhi and Marten is Kyon.
ALTtheory 3: Hannelore is Haruhi and Marten is Kyon.
ALTtheory 4: Pintsize is Haruhi and Marten is Kyon.
ALTtheory 5: Some guy is creating these people and making what's needed when needed. There is no world outside what the characters inhabit, just endless white.
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It's not as far off as you think. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWtcz9PMFHo)
I was thinking of that when I said it was 'way off'. Have you seen the rig involved in doing that? It's also one-sided, etc. It *is* incredibly cool, though. :)
If you want perfect cloaking you're talking meta-materials with negative indices of refraction. Unfortunately to date we've only made them such that they refract radio waves and only on one plane; full 3D at optical wavelengths is currently beyond us, but monoplanar radar invisibility is in the lab right now.
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Of course we could just roll with the idea of the "true stealth" Thunderhawk for the purposes of the gag, but no, we have to figure out how it could work in reality....
If Marten's in charge of feeding, does that mean tha Faye's in chage of cleaning out the littlerbox and who's going to get her neutered?
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Emily looks gorgeous in this strip. Particularly panel 3.
And gotta say. Faye looks bangin (heheheh, bad pun) in that dark red suit.
Love panel 4. Emily is just too cute. I remember going at green peppers at a sleep over at my friends. I think we ate 2 whole each.
And just a thought as the height difference looks so pronounced this strip. If Emily ever tries to snare Marty and pull her farther into her strange world for romantic purposes, I hope Marty doesn't have an inferiority complex about being shorter. Looks like he's about 5'11, while Emily is at least 6'1.
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I can't imagine just biting into a pepper but I don't like them uncooked any way.
Also, any time Faye is wearing a revealing top my instinct it to check for the scar.
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"Oh lord, we've adopted another one."
Moment of the week right there. I love self-reflecting punchlines.
Also Emily wouldn't work as a pet in America. What with the whole "camp" deal during the cold war (or was that still during WW2?). It would be of sour taste, even for a webcomic. °O
edit: Wait wait wait... am I presuming something here? I think I got lost in my own thoughts here.
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"Oh lord, we've adopted another one."
Ha! That's my favorite line in a QC strip in a long time. Love the self-referential lamp-shading.
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5. [Marten]: "Oh lord, we've adopted another one." The punchline works so well with it between Marten & Faye. It is a testament of how far QC has come from a trio of young indies & an AnthroPC, to a Simpsons-level cast (Hank Azaria to voice Marten, if not most of the male QC-cast).
Oh GOD... YEARDLEY SMITH VOICING HANNELORE. It TOTALLY works!
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I just wish to say that green pepper dipped in toffee sauce is godly.
Also
Still no hello for Gabby :cry:
They probably just called hello to her when they first came out onto the deck. The comic would be very boring if it was nothing but people saying hello to each other...
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Hello!
:-)
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I got a bit sad with this comic tbh. Well, Emily isn't alone anymore so yey for her!
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I can't see Emily having a relationship actually. Not that she is incapable of one, like Hanners, but just that she isn't particularly interested. I see a lot of myself in her, and although I'd like to get married at some point I don't want to date. And I can't see Emily marrying Marten!
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I'd like to get married at some point I don't want to date.
That's probably not a good idea.
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It is, however, common in some cultures; we call it "an arranged marriage", and such marriages are reputed to work no worse overall than those contracted under our system.
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I'm pretty sure that's mostly because we don't teach our kids what is required to make a marriage work where cultures that regularly arrange marriages explicitly do.
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Emily is the bastard child of Chairman Kaga from Kitchen Stadium (ICJ, not the abysmal horrible ICA). Confirmed.
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ICA isn't bad; it has AB, after all! How could any show be anything but amazing with AB?
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[quoteNope, the character's hair aren't done in 3D - it's a custom Photoshop brush Jeph uses that just makes it look that way, using shades and tints of the base hair color. If you can ever catch the livestreams of the comic, you can see it in action ][/quote]
Oh, thank you, I didn't know that. I'm still fairly new to QC, I only started reading little over a month ago, so I guess I haven't been around to notice/know this. If I may ask, is there any schedule to when Jeph streams? I know he writes/draws comic just about every day but I don't think he streams every time. It would be really interesting to see QC being created. I presume he draws the entire comic in front of the camera?
As for today's strip, that's quite a revealing top Fay's got going on, other than those bright yellow bloomers and one time she was in panties (presumably, at least while talking to Dora) this has to be among the more revealing outfits. I guess that means she has overcome the emotional distress first with Sven, now with Angus has dealt with her issues.
It seems that not every character will get strip (or two) of arrival, which is good if we want to get this party started (literally) before winter, not that there is anything wrong with gag strips. Though, from today's comic, it seems that Steve is coming with Cosette (in more ways than one) and that Tai is driving Claire. That still leaves Dora as a question mark. She does have a car so she isn't dependant but still.
QC has grown quite a bit since it's beginnings, with today's enormous cast of character it would be nigh impossible to place them all at the same location in any arc. But, I am still hoping that, maybe for comic's tenth anniversary next year, we will get a massive wallpaper with every named character in the strip that has appeared since beginning. I think that would be epic and a nice way to bring everyone together.
And, finally, I found a picture which I think would perfectly suit Hanner's sensibilities. All credit goes to "compactpussycat" on reddit, whether or not is this his/hers picture or a repost I don't know or care.
(http://i.imgur.com/k1MyJ.jpg)
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I got a bit sad with this comic tbh. Well, Emily isn't alone anymore so yey for her!
Yeah, made me think of Luna Lovegood, in a way.
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Luna at least made sense though….
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7. Something that also has occurred to me... Assuming no others are coming, this makes:
Three guys...
1- Angus
2- Marten
3- Steve
to Ten girls...
1- Claire
2- Cosette
3- Dora
4- Emily
5- Faye
6- Gabrielle
7- Hannelore
8- Marigold
9- Momo
10- Tai
Even if Four of the girls (Cosette, Dora, Faye, Tai) are in relationships, and One girl is a robot (Momo), that is a damn good swimsuit ratio (for the guys, at least... O0 ).
8. I expect Steve (or perhaps Angus) to make a comment towards this. ...and get Gibbs-slapped accordingly :wink: .
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Also Emily wouldn't work as a pet in America. What with the whole "camp" deal during the cold war (or was that still during WW2?).
Nope, it was WWII. The US wasn't at war with the Japanese during the Cold War.
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Luna at least made sense though….
...sometimes.
It is, however, common in some cultures; we call it "an arranged marriage", and such marriages are reputed to work no worse overall than those contracted under our system.
That depends on your definition of "work." The cultures that do arranged marriages put tremendous pressure on its people for marriages to work, so a couple is more likely to say it's going fine no matter how they actually feel. Not to mention that if the women complain, they often become ostracized, so there's that to consider.
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What I mean by "I don't want to date" is that I no longer would go on dates with someone if I didn't think we were likely to be compatible long term. Currently, no one I might go on a date with would be someone I'd be compatible with long term, because I am about to graduate and move hundreds of miles into an uncertain future. Everyone I meet is either in the same situation, or more usually into a certain future of a job in London, or staying here for a few years. I'm not really interested in having that complication during my final year.
I also am becoming strongly drawn by the concept of what the evangelical Christian churches call "courtship" - getting to know each other entirely as platonic friends and usually not one-on-one at first, and then being in a relationship which is fairly likely to lead to engagement and ultimately marriage. It's a different approach which I'd be happy to discuss but perhaps not in this thread. Anyway, that's what I meant. I won't just be marrying someone I meet the week before, and not bothering to get to know them.
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I'm still fairly new to QC, I only started reading little over a month ago, so I guess I haven't been around to notice/know this. If I may ask, is there any schedule to when Jeph streams? I know he writes/draws comic just about every day but I don't think he streams every time. It would be really interesting to see QC being created. I presume he draws the entire comic in front of the camera?
Welcome, fairly new person!
Jeph's drawing schedule varies by several hours and it's unpredictable whether he'll stream it. Your best bet is to watch his Twitter feed, and be in a time zone/sleep schedule where you can watch someone thing in the wee hours of Jeph's time zone.
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I had been getting an emailed heads-up when he fires up the feed, although I haven't seen it for a few days.
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ICA isn't bad; it has AB, after all! How could any show be anything but amazing with AB?
Chopped is better. ICA just pretty much took a giant dump on ICJ and stripped it clean with disinfectant.
No exotic out there ingredients is the biggie. And the chairman is a wooden lifeless insipid moron.
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If I may ask, is there any schedule to when Jeph streams?
In mainland Europe (where I suspect you are) you are best checking Jeph's Twitter from about 7:30am. The actual timing varies with his mental and sleep state (currently affected by his giving up smoking cold turkey last week).
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I'd thought the scar was just on the edge of the breast itself before, not halfway to the nipple like it is here... seems funny for her to have been cut to the rib from there.
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Funny things happen in a car crash.
I was picking glass out of my forehead for two months after one...
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Why wouldn't Emily have any friends? She doesn't withdraw from human contact (like Marigold) or use hedonism as a substitute (like Tai). She's pleasant and she's quirky, a combination many people enjoy.
What should her nickname be? "Smoothie" is too obvious.
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Isn't it obvious? MC (Banana) Hammer.
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I'd thought the scar was just on the edge of the breast itself before, not halfway to the nipple like it is here... seems funny for her to have been cut to the rib from there.
I've been wondering are the small stripes on the scar the stitches? Don't they remove them after a while?
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Maybe she liked how they looked and got them tattooed on.
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It wouldn't be out of the question for the dots, the holes where the stitches entered, to scar. Depending on the skin type. My C-section scar has about half the staple holes visible as scar tissue, but they're slowly fading away with time, as I'm told the scar itself may as well. The lines, perhaps, are not necessarily realistic, but like I said, the other stuff can scar.
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Judging from previous depictions of Faye's scar, I'm pretty sure those are just dots, and not lines across - it simply looks like lines due to the size of the image.
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Welcome, new person!
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That depends on your definition of "work." The cultures that do arranged marriages put tremendous pressure on its people for marriages to work, so a couple is more likely to say it's going fine no matter how they actually feel. Not to mention that if the women complain, they often become ostracized, so there's that to consider.
Women who complain are ostracised in all cultures.
There is a very strong tendency to assume that marriage means the same thing, and "works" the same way in all cultures. This is not true. The assumption in IDUHG's posting is that how the couple feels is the most important factor. In many cultures, this is given a much lower priority than in the Western world. In Chinese culture, for example, family stability, continuity, prosperity, and the raising of children, have traditionally been a far higher priority than romantic love, or personal fulfilment, and to a large extent this remains true now.
As a member of an ethnic and cultural minority which has significantly different priorities in, and attitudes to, marriage from those generally held in Australia, I have observed that this is yet another area where we just can't win, and the narrow limits of cultural acceptance are demonstrated all too clearly. If you're a member of a minority group that exhibits what are generally regarded as "social pathologies", such as family breakdown, high levels of divorce and abandonment, children performing poorly at school and dropping out early etc. then the mainstream is thoroughly censorious, but if your group has lower incidences of these bad outcomes than average in your society, you can't expect to receive any credit. Instead, the goalposts will be shifted, and your courtships, marriages, and families will be condescendingly stigmatised as somehow really being miserable and bad, despite producing results that are generally regarded as positive when achieved by members of the majority population.
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Just make sure to get the regular shots and health checks.
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I'll take "inexplicable non sequiturs" for $20 Alex.
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Judging from previous depictions of Faye's scar, I'm pretty sure those are just dots, and not lines across - it simply looks like lines due to the size of the image.
I zoomed in for research purposes, and they appear to be lines across in that strip. Offhand I can't think of any archive strips with as good a view (of the scar, obviously). As far as dots vs lines go, I would expect to see dots. The scar on my mum's wrist (she missed a door handle and put her arm through the door window while drunk in her 20's) still has visible dots decades later.
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Women who complain are ostracised in all cultures.
There is a very strong tendency to assume that marriage means the same thing, and "works" the same way in all cultures. This is not true. The assumption in IDUHG's posting is that how the couple feels is the most important factor. In many cultures, this is given a much lower priority than in the Western world. In Chinese culture, for example, family stability, continuity, prosperity, and the raising of children, have traditionally been a far higher priority than romantic love, or personal fulfilment, and to a large extent this remains true now.
As a member of an ethnic and cultural minority which has significantly different priorities in, and attitudes to, marriage from those generally held in Australia, I have observed that this is yet another area where we just can't win, and the narrow limits of cultural acceptance are demonstrated all too clearly. If you're a member of a minority group that exhibits what are generally regarded as "social pathologies", such as family breakdown, high levels of divorce and abandonment, children performing poorly at school and dropping out early etc. then the mainstream is thoroughly censorious, but if your group has lower incidences of these bad outcomes than average in your society, you can't expect to receive any credit. Instead, the goalposts will be shifted, and your courtships, marriages, and families will be condescendingly stigmatised as somehow really being miserable and bad, despite producing results that are generally regarded as positive when achieved by members of the majority population.
Not that particularly disagree with your main thrust, the idea that romance is important has only become a 'Western' thing within the last 100 years maybe. Although class has a lot to do with this so maybe it's that disparity in European culture that caused the change. Certainly in the upper and middle classs it would be common for people to be forced to marry someone their parents approved of because it was their parents' money they were expected to inherit and use. I'd say much of this move toward marrying out of love comes from the middle classes who tend to force the revolution side of things.
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edit: Wooooh, comic!
Clinton without glasses looks oddly delicious. °O
And also... perspective is really hard. (last two panels)
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There is nothing wrong with a tight pair of Budgie Smugglers (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=budgie%20smugglers)! It's unAustralian for a guy to wear baggy trunks, unless he's surfing.
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Jeph? Methinks you forgot to color Clinton's cyborg hand. And I suppose it's only me because I just realized (I'm slow) that Claire and Clinton must be suffering from a very mild case of that anti-aging disorder (not sure what it's named at the moment, again I'm slow).
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Jeph? Methinks you forgot to color Clinton's cyborg hand.
It's mostly obscured but still there - you can see his right wrist, sort of gray-white with a seam separating it from the rest of his body, tucked under his left arm.
...and I'm imagining Dan Aykroyd pointing this out on a zoomed image on a paranormal mysteries TV show. My brain's pretty weird this early in the morning. Weirder.
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There is nothing wrong with a tight pair of Budgie Smugglers (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=budgie%20smugglers)! It's unAustralian for a guy to wear baggy trunks, unless he's surfing.
Quite; brief-style swimming trunks have always been the norm in my mind, with baggy shorts being more of a style item. I have been bemused by the occasional disparaging remarks in the comic (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=385) and this forum (and PJ) about wearing "Speedos". Speedo is just a brand, of course, and I wouldn't use the word to indicate the style of trunks (though I guess it's no different from my use of Hoover for vacuum cleaner), nor would I think it odd for Marten (or Clinton) to have a pair.
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Not that particularly disagree with your main thrust, the idea that romance is important has only become a 'Western' thing within the last 100 years maybe.
It's a bit older than that, I think: the conflict between arranged marriages and romance (with the latter presented in a positive light against the former) has been a key plot point in many European plays as far back as the 17th century.
Anyway, about today's comic, there's something that puzzles me: Who the hell brought Clinton?
Only Claire makes sense as an answer, but given what we've seen of their relationship, it doesn't make much sense. Unless their relationship is much more complex than we've been shown yet?
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I can imagine them coming together, and shouting at each other continuously during the journey. But maybe Clinton has his own moped and came on that.
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There is nothing wrong with a tight pair of Budgie Smugglers (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=budgie%20smugglers)! It's unAustralian for a guy to wear baggy trunks, unless he's surfing.
Clinton's not an Aussie though is he?
Also, certain swimsuit styles are not complementary to certain body types - and the banana hammock doesn't for those not built like Namor (http://marvel.com/universe/Namor).
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It would have been a magnificent non sequitur for The Bros (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/The_bros) to have appeared.
Does this mean Marten doesn't consider Sven and Wil to be his friends? Or are they coming later?
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Why wouldn't Emily have any friends? She doesn't withdraw from human contact (like Marigold) or use hedonism as a substitute (like Tai). She's pleasant and she's quirky, a combination many people enjoy.
Gabby doesn't seem to have any friends, either, or at least doesn't seem to have invited any.
Also, I'd almost be surprised if Steve (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1430) doesn't have a ideally hydrodynamic swimsuit of his own.
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Why is Clinton there? It doesn't seem natural that Claire would invite him when it's clear they don't like each other.
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I'm seriously hoping that Marten gets together with Gabby. They've already shown they are on good terms with each other and I can see something more sprouting from it. Also, the exchanges between her, Faye, Hanners, Mari, and Dora would be hilarious. :-D
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I'm seriously hoping that Marten gets together with Gabby. They've already shown they are on good terms with each other and I can see something more sprouting from it. Also, the exchanges between her, Faye, Hanners, Mari, and Dora would be hilarious. :-D
You're not the first to have brought that one up, but that relationship makes no sense to me. He's interacted with her even less than Claire.
At any rate, I really wanna see what, I'm guessing weird suite Emily comes out in. I just imagine it'll end up being normal though.....but maybe an incredibly skimpy bikini that draws eyes. C'mon Marty. You know you want an Asian bud.
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What would be more shocking though.. normal swimsuit or fancy nineteenhundreds gear!?
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I think Emily will wear a perfectly normal one-piece, and you will all be disappointed. Also it feels a bit as though things are verging back on the edge of creepy here - "You know you want an Asian bud"? Can you hear how that sounds?
That is what I would consider to be a normal swimming costume for men, although possibly more common for children and professional swimmers I guess.
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Bud as in Buddy or as in undeveloped plant shoot? :psyduck:
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Emily may have directly, though innocently, said to Claire "and make sure you bring your brother, too".
And yes, I attribute the high popularity of the men's board shorts and the scorn for the banana-hammock in America to self-consciousness about our somewhat suboptimal physiques (= we're fat), so if you don't look like Greg Louganis or Michael Phelps, why wear a style that further draws attention to how badly you don't. (OK, I could have said we feel we don't want a style that exposes how we come up short, but that could be interpreted other ways...)
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Speaking as someone who prefers to wear baggy shorts AND a shirt to the beach ... yeah. However, my friends who've vacationed across the pond report that suboptimal physiques are no barrier to budgie smuggling. Or maybe there are fewer hangups (edit: heh) about it east of the Atlantic.
And I do love the contributions to wordplay found on this forum.
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Bud as in Buddy or as in undeveloped plant shoot? :psyduck:
After a moment's thought I took it as short for buddy, rather than the other (and its implications) - otherwise I would have commented, for sure.
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Let's get the party STARTED! What's next?
Swimming and food and games and... uhm, yeah. 6 (7.8%)
Didn't you guys hear? It was supposed to be a costume party! 0 (0%)
Gabby openly wonders why Tai and Dora aren't there yet. 8 (10.4%)
Claire shows up - with her stupid brother in tow. ("I thought Hannelore would be here!") 5 (6.5%)
Meanwhile, Tai and Dora are stuck on the side of the road. Literally. (Tai wasn't paying attention...) 7 (9.1%)
Sven shows up. 3 (3.9%)
DALE shows up. 12 (15.6%)
Sven and Dale fight over Marigold! 3 (3.9%)
Marigold fights over the vintage copy of Super Mario World 2! 6 (7.8%)
Emily doesn't mention what she added to the punch. 7 (9.1%)
Elephants! Dragons! Hee eheeheheheheeeee! 1 (1.3%)
The snacks include Waffles, Spathe Ham - and BANANA SMOOTHIES! 2 (2.6%)
Someone give Jeph another piece of Nicorette or something. 4 (5.2%)
Seriously - if he has to draw 1,000 bonercats to stop smoking, DO EEEETTT!!!! 13 (16.9%)
Total Members Voted: 77
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I think Emily will wear a perfectly normal one-piece, and you will all be disappointed. Also it feels a bit as though things are verging back on the edge of creepy here - "You know you want an Asian bud"? Can you hear how that sounds?
That is what I would consider to be a normal swimming costume for men, although possibly more common for children and professional swimmers I guess.
Jeez. Can we not joke here anymore? Just a little joke, though in poor taste, of how Marten has dated a wide array and very different women, personality wise and ethnic group wise and a strange Asian could be next on his list. And the fact that I love asians in general anyway. :angel:
As for the swim choice of Clinton. Never understood the appeal of those types of swimsuits outside of competitive swim. Can't stand the design. Pretty much the sam reason I don't wear tighty whitties. Waaaayyy to confining and uncomfortable.
As for Emily bikini hopes, I think her suit will turn out to be what Hanners will if its a bikini at all. One of those conservative tops that doesn't flash much and the short short boyshort style of bottoms with the skirt thing design over the top.
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Maybe the reason Claire, Gabby and Emily don't seem to have many friends is because, as freshmen, they're relatively new in town and these are the closest friendships they've developed so far... just a though.
[ ... ] (OK, I could have said we feel we don't want a style that exposes how we come up short, but that could be interpreted other ways...)
For most of us Europeans it seems to be a question of fashion.
For me it's one of comfort.
You know... I've never over-analyzed this before. Maybe I will later today. °O
Also my swimsuit bet money for Emily is on bikini. Simply because it would be oddly normal for her and therefore right up her "weird" alley.
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Emily may have directly, though innocently, said to Claire "and make sure you bring your brother, too".
And yes, I attribute the high popularity of the men's board shorts and the scorn for the banana-hammock in America to self-consciousness about our somewhat suboptimal physiques (= we're fat), so if you don't look like Greg Louganis or Michael Phelps, why wear a style that further draws attention to how badly you don't. (OK, I could have said we feel we don't want a style that exposes how we come up short, but that could be interpreted other ways...)
Well...I must say I'd rather not see another dude in essentially panty style swimming attire. Particularly those who are incredibly...portly. That's horrifying. I don't know wanna see that at all.
Claire, Gabby, and Emily aren't freshman though. Gabby certainly isn't at least. She's a TA. And freshman are never TAs. Gabby is at least a junior. Not sure on Claire and Emily though. I'd bet they're at least sophomores.
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Re: Speedos - yes, it's a brand, but it's pretty much been generecized (like Band-Aid, Kleenex or Frisbee). As for the item of clothing itself, I suppose the scorn for Speedos can be attributed to the scorn for briefs rather than boxers. Someone who wears boxers wouldn't want to wear a bathing suit that's more revealing than their underwear unless they had a good reason.
Re: Martigan, they're all grad students.
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Madmartigan, joke away! It was just that particular joke sounded pretty racist to me - "an Asian"? Defining someone by their ethnicity is a bit demeaning.
Perhaps I am being over-sensitive though, that's up to the mods to consider.
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Re: Speedos - yes, it's a brand, but it's pretty much been generecized (like Band-Aid, Kleenex or Frisbee). As for the item of clothing itself, I suppose the scorn for Speedos can be attributed to the scorn for briefs rather than boxers. Someone who wears boxers wouldn't want to wear a bathing suit that's more revealing than their underwear unless they had a good reason.
Re: Martigan, they're all grad students.
Thanks for backing that up. Couldn't remember for sure, but knew Gabby was up there in the college levels. Emily just looks so young I imagine she could be confused as a freshman and Claire...welll.
Madmartigan, joke away! It was just that particular joke sounded pretty racist to me - "an Asian"? Defining someone by their ethnicity is a bit demeaning.
Perhaps I am being over-sensitive though, that's up to the mods to consider.
Pretty hard for me to be racist against Asians when I love them.. Studied Japanese a semester in college and picked up a minor in East Asian Studies in general. I meant it more as, you know you want the Asian because god knows a cute Asian is pretty much my dream girl. :wink: Half asians are even more attractive. You may not have seen my posts when Emily was first introduced, but I was fairly giddy an asian was introduced. It's only the small reason why she's a close second to Hanners for favorite character.
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Claire stated they're all grad students (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2205) (and that she's 24) - and generally, in the US, TA's are grad students as well.
Also, I've only heard the term banana hammock in reference to something a little skimpier than a speedo type swimsuit - more along the lines of the male thong preferred by bodybuilders.
Edit: I see others remembered they were grad students. I'm leaving this for the link, though.
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Well...I must say I'd rather not see another dude in essentially panty style swimming attire. Particularly those who are incredibly...portly. That's horrifying. I don't know wanna see that at all.
I think that's called tempting fate.
Both of the TA's at my archaeology field school were undergrads, though both upperclassmen (junior and senior I think?). Same thing in a few of my lab classes. But my university's grad school was on a separate campus and has more of a career focus, so that might've had something to do with it - I don't think it's normal for most universities.
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There is nothing wrong with a tight pair of Budgie Smugglers (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=budgie%20smugglers)! It's unAustralian for a guy to wear baggy trunks, unless he's surfing.
I'd probably be one of the few exceptions to the rule. I'd rather not expose too much of my hairy monkey legs upon the public :psyduck:...
Clinton might not have the physique to wear 'em, but he does have the attitude. I'd say he's a bodybuilder that's still under construction :-)...
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Madmartigan, joke away! It was just that particular joke sounded pretty racist to me - "an Asian"? Defining someone by their ethnicity is a bit demeaning.
I let "Asian" pass as meaning "someone with a background I am not familiar with" in this case rather than anything pejorative. "Bud" I was less certain about, as my first thought was "ripe for the picking", which I would have considered unacceptable - but I decided (correctly, I hope) that it was simply short for "buddy".
However, this does remind us of the need on an international forum like this not merely to consider the bounds of ones own taste, but also that those bounds might well be different from those of other people. Even when joking.
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Re: the robotic hand. Though I'm sure it's properly waterproofed, he probably removes it (as he does his glasses) for swimming. I think you're seeing the attachment site, because with the other hand hidden, you should see that hand above the arms (in a normal folding).
I'm sure at one point it fell off in a pool, and he'd rather not dredge the lake - although it could crawl out by itself in autonomous mode, I suppose.
After assaulting several of the girls...
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Madmartigan, joke away! It was just that particular joke sounded pretty racist to me - "an Asian"? Defining someone by their ethnicity is a bit demeaning.
I let "Asian" pass as meaning "someone with a background I am not familiar with" in this case rather than anything pejorative. "Bud" I was less certain about, as my first thought was "ripe for the picking", which I would have considered unacceptable - but I decided (correctly, I hope) that it was simply short for "buddy".
However, this does remind us of the need on an international forum like this not merely to consider the bounds of ones own taste, but also that those bounds might well be different from those of other people. Even when joking.
Ugh. This is the problem at internet forums and society at large. The confusion of what "bud" means confuses the heck out of me. I guess it must be strictly American lingo as it generally means 2 things, 95% of the time. You wanna "bud" as in nasty watered down beer or "bud" as in buddy/dude/bro. I guess the confusion stemmed from forgetting the comma before "bud".
And Asian was referencing Emily and I find it offensive that it'd be construed as being even tiny bit racist. Poor phrasing, but racist? Really?
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/210/5/a/face_palm_by_Draculasaurus.gif)
I meant it in a good way. As in, Marten would be stupid not going for the cute asian. Much like one would be stupid not going for a Brazilian.
Sorry. Just a sore spot for me when people think even the smallest something in an insult to an entire ethnic race. It causes more problems in the world than actual insults with intent to demean. PC has a purpose, but it's often taken to the extreme in my experience...
I'll leave it there as the comment was essentially supposed to be a throw away and an offhanded compliment to Emily and one reason why I like her. Her being asian that is.
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Emily may have directly, though innocently, said to Claire "and make sure you bring your brother, too".
And yes, I attribute the high popularity of the men's board shorts and the scorn for the banana-hammock in America to self-consciousness about our somewhat suboptimal physiques (= we're fat), so if you don't look like Greg Louganis or Michael Phelps, why wear a style that further draws attention to how badly you don't. (OK, I could have said we feel we don't want a style that exposes how we come up short, but that could be interpreted other ways...)
This would make sense if Australia, previously mentioned in the thread as being heavily into the speedo style swimsuit, wasn't right behind us with the obesity problems.
Also, I'm in good shape, American, and have no interest in wearing anything like that. Its just cultural, no reason to make it into a "US IS FAT" indicator.
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Maybe it's just a matter of attitude.
"I'm round, and proud" ?
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"I'm round, and proud" ?
"Just more of me to love, baby."
edit:
Sorry about the freshmen misunderstanding, I had some semantic wires criss-crossed. °O
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Jeez. Can we not joke here anymore? Just a little joke, though in poor taste, of how Marten has dated a wide array and very different women, personality wise and ethnic group wise and a strange Asian could be next on his list.
Padma was a strange Asian.
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Jeez. Can we not joke here anymore? Just a little joke, though in poor taste, of how Marten has dated a wide array and very different women, personality wise and ethnic group wise and a strange Asian could be next on his list.
Padma was a strange Asian.
That depends if you associate those of Indian descent to be Asian, which is a sticky situation as I think they're, and I could be incredibly wrong, closer to Aryan descent than Asiatic ethnic groups.
Padma was again one of my favorites. I have no problem saying I tend to like an exotic look. Also liked her as I have a bunch of Indian friends and they're awesome people.
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"I'm round, and proud" ?
"Just more of me to love, baby."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6TWGRcs6E
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It could be worse: given Emily's Japanese descent, we're lucky some creep didn't crack a joke about her cherry.
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...thus slipping it in behind a mask of concern!
Tsk, tsk.
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I can't imagine a funny joke about a Japanese girl and her cherry: Japan is noted for its cherry trees and cherry blossoms, not the cherries themselves.
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I can't imagine a funny joke about a Japanese girl and her cherry: Japan is noted for its cherry trees and cherry blossoms, not the cherries themselves.
Hm. I, too, apparently lack the context in which Schmorgluck's allusion makes sense. Personally, I think I'm actually happier for that.
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regarding speedos.
in europe 'speedos' are just regular swimwear. so its always hilarious (and a bit sad) how americans make a big deal out of them. especially how people say they are horrified that they can see other men bulge.
of course swimwear on Mediterranean is optional. so you scaredy cats... dont go there :)
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So if Jeph starts drawing at 7 - 9 am CET and if it takes him four hours to complete the strip that would make it anywhere from 11 am to 1 pm CET. That means tough luck for me since I can't possibly be online at those hours, responsibilities and all. Oh, well, guess I'll wait for January or something.
Anyways, this strip raises both the question of who else will come and who are potential dates for Marten. This being a major arc and Marten being close to main character etc. it is likely for his romance to be part of the arc. Today's strip certainly teases or at least plays with that possiblity. As for available "candidates" (though that makes it sound like late night dating show) or in other words, every single named female character that has appeared recently. Which would be
-Gabby
-Claire
-Emily
-Hannelore
-Marigold
Dora and Tai are in relationship, Faye's with Angus and Penelope's with Will. Raven is still in Texas or wherever, though I do hope she makes reappearance, her ditzy-ness (I doubt that is a word) is always welcome. Padma is permanently in LA and everyone else is either (currently) gone from the comic or dating someone.
As for the available ones
Gabby seems the least likely candidate, at least for me, simply because she has had the least amount of interaction, on camera at least, with Marten. Other then the time when all three interns were introduced and with few scenes on the street (if I'm not mistaken, when Marten asked her how old was she) she hasn't had any significant contact with him. The only way I can see relationship between the two of them would be if they get closer as friends on the party, start interacting more and then, sometime down the line, get together. Or, alternatively, get into physical relationship similiar to Faye and Sven, but I can't see Marten date someone just for sex, he seems like romantic type.
Claire, well, basically, much the same as Gabby. She has had more interaction with Marten than Gabby but not to a level where I would really consider them friends, not to mention lovers. Also, she doesn't seem to particulary care about dating or boys in general, or at least not from what we have seen so far.
Emily is the likeliest of the interns to make the leap but then, that seems like common shipping. Two characters are friendly to each other and are both single equals they both must be madly in love and finish together? However, having said that she would be interesting pairing for Marten and, in my opinion at least, the likeliest one. Not that means that they will end up together. She is funny and quirky and, unlike Hannelore and her anxieties and OCD or Marigold and her issues, her biggest issue seems to be that she lives with her head up in the clouds. Also, the way she invited Marten (and Tai and presumably others but that's not the point) would coincide with the love letter concept. At least according to animes/mangas (I have no idea about real world Japan) love letters are a common way of proclaiming love for someone. Then again, according to animes/mangas mechas are common and high-schoolers make the best pilots of said mechas.
As for Hannelore and Marigold, well,
Hannelore's biggest issue with dating are her neuroses, mysophobia and OCD and the fact that Marten in the past has taken big brother sort of parental role with him generally helping her with her issues and being her pillar of strenght (which made it all the more awesome to see Hannelore as Marigold's pillar) but Hannelore has progressed great deal since her introduction into the comic and even more so since her childhood (where she couldn't bear to be in physical presence of people) and especially in the strip where she arrivies via the invisible vehicle, she looked really confident and strong/brave. Is all that enough to start dating Marten and does she even want to date Marten (in her own words before her date with Sven "...I'm not interested in anybody romantically,..." Has her opinion changed significantly since then?
And Marigold, I just don't see it. I could write why but I'm tired. And this comment is already too long and dry of a read.
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Does this mean Marten doesn't consider Sven and Wil to be his friends? Or are they coming later?
Wil probably wouldn't go (or even be invited by Marten) without Penelope. And we already figured Penelope and Raven should be minding the business. Wil might even be minding his, at the Horrible Revelation.
Sven? He'd be yet another single dude, so Marten probably would have mentioned him along with Clinton. So he's not coming. Whether because Marten doesn't consider him a friend, or because he had other plans ...
Amir, now. No love for the band mate, huh? Or is he, somehow, busy?
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Padma was a strange Asian.
That depends if you associate those of Indian descent to be Asian, which is a sticky situation as I think they're, and I could be incredibly wrong, closer to Aryan descent than Asiatic ethnic groups.
Wow. I'm impressed.
First, Aryan? That's already a pretty racist word, further spoiled by the Nazis. For a modern audience, the least you could do is call us Indo-European. :-P
Second, Asiatic? "Asian" would be better (and, I'm told, less offensive), unless you're referring specifically to the Middle East (or even to the Asiatici orators of the classic) – and here you're obviously not.
Third, "those of Indian descent" (more than a billion) come in many wildly different ethnicities, some closer to this, and some to others – but all of them Asian, unless you consider the subcontinent of India separate from Asia ...
Fourth, while the word "Asian" may mean (be short for) "Far East Asian" in many contexts, as was demonstrated in recent discussions on this forum, TinPenguin obviously did not use it in this sense.
Mix semantics and racial theory, and you have a minefield. Still, it's impressive to hit four in 35 words.
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Race is not an issue in QC. I would like it also to be not an issue here, which is probably best achieved by simply not mentioning it unless it is actually relevant (e.g. Padma and Emily have names - there is in general no need to refer to them by their race, ethnicity or whatever instead).
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Oh for fucks sake.
I give up. I guess I'm going to have to self-ban from posting on here for a week. Maybe even a month. Shouldn't even both posting here anymore if people are just going to take the extremes of anything I post and paint me out to be some closet racist hater who hates every nationality known to man and is purposefully trying to instigate shit.
You win. I'm a cracker who hates people.
I'm done here for awhile.
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This is hilarious... and I'm not laughing at Madmartigan. ;D
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So...
...they have a grill on their deck! How about that!
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Geez o_o Glad I missed that mess.
Anyway, I somehow find p3 Clinton super adorable. Mostly because of his pose x3
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So... I had one of those swimsuit when I was a little kid. Now I don't!
That is all!
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Proposed peace settlement:
We all agree that Emily is cute. She is a cute Asian just as she is a cute CS major, a cute banana smoothie consumer, and a cute Luna Lovegood.
I don't understand the appeal of the male equivalent of cameltoe. If you want people checking out your junk, just skip the swimsuit altogether and you'll have one less piece of clothing to dry out and keep track of.
Jeph being Jeph, if Marten winds up Meeting Someone I'll bet it will be a new character.
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I tentatively agree to your terms and will submit them before my country's legislature (my fancy hat and mustache) for formal approval.
I can see where you're coming from on the last point, that if it does happen it would probably be someone new. But what's interesting to me is that there's still a fair amount of focus on his romantic future and speculation about his prospects when nothing immediate and obvious is going on in his love life. Note, not frustrating, just interesting. At least as far as I remember he hasn't really flirted with anyone in an obvious way since Padma.
Other than falling flat on his face with Lt. Potter.
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Jeph being Jeph, if Marten winds up Meeting Someone I'll bet it will be a new character.
You don't consider the interns to be new characters?
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Judging from previous depictions of Faye's scar, I'm pretty sure those are just dots, and not lines across - it simply looks like lines due to the size of the image.
I zoomed in for research purposes, and they appear to be lines across in that strip. Offhand I can't think of any archive strips with as good a view (of the scar, obviously). As far as dots vs lines go, I would expect to see dots. The scar on my mum's wrist (she missed a door handle and put her arm through the door window while drunk in her 20's) still has visible dots decades later.
I did the same, and deduced they were dots. Hm...
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waitwaitwait.
You know the expression "when you're used to using a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail"?
Emily has discovered the use of a hammer to make banana smoothies.
Clinton is wearing what is otherwise known as a "banana hammock".
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Okay, that setup sounded funnier in my head.
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Especially since Emily wasn't the one that came up with using a hammer to make a banana smoothie...
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Yeah, that's pretty awful. :P
Not enough to justify using my "even more horrible pun foul" .gif though.
I dunno, I think Claire's overreacting a bit. It's not like seeing Clinton without a shirt on is horrific. If Faye calling Angus "Captain Backhair" is anything to go by, we're in for a lot more Fan Disservice on that front than anyone else. (TV Tropes link omitted)
Also, Jeph being Jeph, we're never going to actually see Marigold's swimsuit above water. :P
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Yeah, now that he's built it up, he probably won't feel he can do it justice.
Damn.
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Prediction altered. Marten drowns, Faye takes her top off, then the camouflaged VTOL drops a MOAB on the lake.
Place bets.
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Hi, new to the forums, and I figured I'd start with this:
Comic 2299: Is it just me, or does Clinton's robot hand seem to be missing?
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Welcome, new person!
We were just trying to figure that out earlier. One possibility is that Clinton took it off to avoid immersing it.
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Jeph being Jeph, if Marten winds up Meeting Someone I'll bet it will be a new character.
You don't consider the interns to be new characters?
"Every car on the road is a used car". The interns are now known characters, even if they still have that new car smell.
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Welcome, new person!
We were just trying to figure that out earlier. One possibility is that Clinton took it off to avoid immersing it.
His hand is there, it's just tucked rather than resting on top of the arm. I draw a lot of my characters with arms crossed this way, though admittedly one hand is usually on top.
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Robot hand is there now. There's a little bit of not-flesh-colored something continuing from his bent wrist. Maybe Jeph updated the art?
I think Clinton looks smooth. But sisters are sisters.
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regarding speedos.
in europe 'speedos' are just regular swimwear. so its always hilarious (and a bit sad) how americans make a big deal out of them. especially how people say they are horrified that they can see other men bulge.
It's strange to me, too. In the mid-70s, my wife and I spent several days a week in the Y pool with our daughter. Speedos were commonplace. On me, too, when I had hipbones to hold them up.
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Welcome, new person!
We were just trying to figure that out earlier. One possibility is that Clinton took it off to avoid immersing it.
His hand is there, it's just tucked rather than resting on top of the arm. I draw a lot of my characters with arms crossed this way, though admittedly one hand is usually on top.
The reason I ask is because I looked at it and the "tucked under" arm has the same color as the rest of his skin, while in previous comics he appeared in the robotic hand was clearly white.
It doesn't take away from the comic in any way, I just like catching little things like that. :)
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in europe 'speedos' are just regular swimwear. so its always hilarious (and a bit sad) how americans make a big deal out of them. especially how people say they are horrified that they can see other men bulge.
I don't tend to find cultural differences hilarious and sad. Its not a failing on anyone's part that 'speedos' are not a popular fashion in the US, and it sure as hell doesn't hurt anyone that we don't like them.
It could easily be reversed: Oh you poor sad Europeans with your lack of good fashion sense and obsession with showing off your junk. See how offensive that feels?
Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
EDIT: Also, man, I just wanted to come in to talk about how hilarious I found Steve's last line, but I can never get away with just that.
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"Every car on the road is a used car".
Not when they are test mules. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_mule)
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Welcome, new person!
We were just trying to figure that out earlier. One possibility is that Clinton took it off to avoid immersing it.
His hand is there, it's just tucked rather than resting on top of the arm. I draw a lot of my characters with arms crossed this way, though admittedly one hand is usually on top.
The reason I ask is because I looked at it and the "tucked under" arm has the same color as the rest of his skin, while in previous comics he appeared in the robotic hand was clearly white.
It doesn't take away from the comic in any way, I just like catching little things like that. :)
But the tucked-under bit isn't the same color of his skin, it's an almost-white gray.
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Jeph being Jeph, if Marten winds up Meeting Someone I'll bet it will be a new character.
You don't consider the interns to be new characters?
"Every car on the road is a used car". The interns are now known characters, even if they still have that new car smell.
Yeah, but by that logic, a newer character would still be an old character by the time Marten starts dating her.
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Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
Remember the Twelfth Commandment, "Thou shalt not take thyself too fucking seriously". I'm fine with people chuckling over my country's prudishness.
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Prediction:
Claire drowns Clinton
Or Visa Versa
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I wonder if she's never had the opportunity before?
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Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
Remember the Twelfth Commandment, "Thou shalt not take thyself too fucking seriously". I'm fine with people chuckling over my country's prudishness.
Then why do you not respond this way to Akima reacting to someone making a joke about Chinese culture. (To be clear, I have no problem with Akima defending her culture. I have a problem with a bit of the "well chill out its just a joke" if the target is American culture, but everyone takes it seriously when its Chinese culture. I think everyone should do their best to be sensitive to all cultures.)
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Everyone already knows about American "culture", it's one of our biggest exports.
Very few Americans know anything about other cultures. Even the ones they're descended from. One of the things poked fun at the most is the stereotypically American assumption that "everyone's just like us!"
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Script's written! Now all I have to do is reread 400 old comics to see if I am correctly remembering a plot point from 3 years ago!!!
Source: https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/259187777562890240
I've only been reading for two years now, so it's hard to tell what happened when before I started reading. What were some of the plot points from three years ago?
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I think you're all being a bit bloody oversensitive, if that makes anyone feel better.
And now I shall proceed to mock my own culture. I'll pop open a cold one for yous all, and chuck another shrimp on the barbie.
Okay, I'm done.
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I think you're all being a bit bloody oversensitive, if that makes anyone feel better.
And now I shall proceed to mock my own culture. I'll pop open a cold one for yous all, and chuck another shrimp on the barbie.
Okay, I'm done.
Actually to be honest, I'm OK with that approach, too. As long as everyone is held to the same standards. I just find it annoying when everyone has to take it seriously when one person gets offended by a comment about culture, while if another person does they need to "chill out" because its an acceptable target.
Also @CarlE, I actually find that not to be the case (that everyone knows our culture). I've grown up in the US south, and I don't even think most of the US knows about my culture, much less people around the world. Just the stereotypical, derogatory, bullshit the media puts out.
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I don't understand the appeal of the male equivalent of cameltoe.
Late at getting to this party...
Speedos are hardly the equivalent of a cameltoe, a banana hammock OTOH... A few points:
- I don't think that wet shorts (after swimming) would hide the male bulge anyway. Of course, if your plan was not to swim, then it's different.
- IMHO insisting on hiding the male bulge would be closer to insisting on hiding the female bulge of breasts, and women's beachwear is not exactly designed with that target in mind.
- Cameltoes are a problem, but wouldn't be such if it weren't for the silly fashion (hopefully goes away soon) of shaving the naturally occurring hair from private parts.
And as a punishment I want to give you a mental image of a middle-aged slightly overweight calculus teacher on a beach. Wearing five year old speedos, so some curls sticking out. Not checking out the girls, but just enjoying beach life with his family. The latest dip to the lake had the effect of shrinking his bulge, but also left droplets of water on his back. Running down towards the inevitable cleft...
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in europe 'speedos' are just regular swimwear. so its always hilarious (and a bit sad) how americans make a big deal out of them. especially how people say they are horrified that they can see other men bulge.
I don't tend to find cultural differences hilarious and sad. Its not a failing on anyone's part that 'speedos' are not a popular fashion in the US, and it sure as hell doesn't hurt anyone that we don't like them.
It could easily be reversed: Oh you poor sad Europeans with your lack of good fashion sense and obsession with showing off your junk. See how offensive that feels?
Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
Perhaps because the culture in the US is demonstrated in this forum, while other cultures are merely brought up, whether as contrast to the demonstrated culture, or by the Americans themselves?
I'd offer another reversal though: Imagine if women were terrified to see other women's curves? (I don't think "bulges" would be the right word ...)
Bring on the burqas! :)
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Perhaps because the culture in the US is demonstrated in this forum, while other cultures are merely brought up, whether as contrast to the demonstrated culture, or by the Americans themselves?
I'd offer another reversal though: Imagine if women were terrified to see other women's curves? (I don't think "bulges" would be the right word ...)
Bring on the burqas! :)
I think you entirely missed the point of my last sentence. I don't think there is anything wrong with "speedos". I'm not about to call Europeans sad for not finding them offensive and/or finding them fashionable.
I just wouldn't wear one myself, and this mostly has to do with cultural fashion and says nothing about my modesty or who I am as a person, so I don't see why it should be "sad and hilarious" that I don't like them.
If another culture found bikinis offensive (and they do exist), I'm not going to call them sad and hilarious for having cultural differences.
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Good on you.
But if another culture finds burqas sad and hilarious (and they do exist), are you going to take them to task over it?
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Good on you.
But if another culture finds burqas sad and hilarious (and they do exist), are you going to take them to task over it?
That is a false equivalence. Saying that a culture can choose for itself what it finds fashionable to wear is not the same as saying that culture is free to judge other cultures over the free choices of that culture.
Now, if you want to say that you find a culture that forces burqas on women offensive, that is different. But if they are choosing it for themselves, who am I to say they are wrong.
(Also, I would hardly consider the male bulge the equivalent of breasts. the "male bulge" is a primary sex characteristic, the breasts are a secondary sex characteristic.)
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The male bulge contains a primary sexual characteristic, but does not display it in the form that it naturally takes.
I find it curious when the same men who find the sight of a male bulge undesirable in swimwear also wear tight jeans.
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I find it curious when the same men who find the sight of a male bulge undesirable in swimwear also wear tight jeans.
It is odd, though really its the same bizarre hypocrisy that finds women in underwear less modest than women in a two piece swimsuit. Humans make weird judgements.
(As an aside, dude, I'm not wearing tight jeans, not for fashion reasons but I don't like constricting down there.)
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Is the primary/secondary distinction really the issue? I'm intrigued because I hadn't thought of it that way.
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I don't really think so.
Anyway, enough distraction - I haven't actually been able to work out what Steve's last sentence even means...
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He is saying that Marten has the easy win with the ladies when compared to Clinton. Kind of like:
"Hey there is one other single guy here"
"That guy?! He doesn't stand a chance so its exactly LIKE being the only single guy here."
Basically, Steve is being Steve.
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American culture...
(http://afeatheradrift.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/try_and_stop_us.jpg)
(Off to bed after late- & long-hours of work, hopefully a non-filler comic when I am next conscious enough to check.)
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It is odd, though really its the same bizarre hypocrisy that finds women in underwear less modest than women in a two piece swimsuit. Humans make weird judgements.
Not talking in general here but there is a personal difference in context. In one situation you are usually in privacy and not expecting to be seen, at least not by anyone you aren't okay with seeing you in your underwear. In the other you are expecting to be in public with other people in similar dress. Plus at least for me, underwear is a personal thing. It's under my clothes for no one but me and my partner to see.
That said I don't even own a swimsuit because I haven't been swimming in years.
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I'm looking forward to today's comic based on Jeph's Twitter.
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anyone wondering how
a) Marten fucks it up this time
or
b) the Universe will make him loose again?
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I don't tend to find cultural differences hilarious and sad. Its not a failing on anyone's part that 'speedos' are not a popular fashion in the US, and it sure as hell doesn't hurt anyone that we don't like them.
It could easily be reversed: Oh you poor sad Europeans with your lack of good fashion sense and obsession with showing off your junk. See how offensive that feels?
Why is it that the culture of the US is seen as an acceptable target?
EDIT: Also, man, I just wanted to come in to talk about how hilarious I found Steve's last line, but I can never get away with just that.
@the bold part
yeah... that's not true. I know what point you were trying to make but accusing europe of lacking good fashion is too false to really convey your point.
I never meant my comment to be mean spirited but I do find it hilarious why it is such an issue in USA. We don't hide breasts right? They bulge of breasts is widely accepted and the bigger it is the better. Its just natural part of body, not some big deal.
If speedos are a problem how would you react to a guy having no clothes at all on public regular beach in Greece or Spain?
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Heh. When I was young and baggy pants were still fashionable we would were two pairs of swimming trunks. One as "boxers" and another one over that so you could still have your pants on the ground.
That being said
yeah yeah , Americans are prudes
Europeans are deviants
jews have crooked noses
and so forth
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Everyone has different tastes in clothing, that's plain and simple.
I might not like seeing some dude's man-parts barely concealed by a bit of spandex (or whatever fabric speedos actually are made of), but I don't go yelling at them to cover themselves up (which Claire is only doing because Clinton is her brother and all).
Forget discriminating against cultures, humans are weird.He is saying that Marten has the easy win with the ladies when compared to Clinton. Kind of like:
"Hey there is one other single guy here"
"That guy?! He doesn't stand a chance so its exactly LIKE being the only single guy here."
Basically, Steve is being Steve.
When I went back to look at it, that does make sense.
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That depends if you associate those of Indian descent to be Asian, which is a sticky situation as I think they're, and I could be incredibly wrong, closer to Aryan descent than Asiatic ethnic groups.
In the UK we certainly use the term "Asian" for anyone from India and surrounding countries. It's taken a while for me to get used to Americans saying "Asian" for what we'd call "oriental", e.g. from China, Japan, Vietnam or Korea.
Technically you may or may not be right about Aryan origins, but that's how we commonly use the words.
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what's with the picture in panel 5 not having Emily's face in it, but having Emily's face in it in panel 6? if it's supposed to be a mirror, shouldn't it be the back of her head?
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It is a different picture. Most likely a photo of Emily as a child/adolescent.
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In the UK we certainly use the term "Asian" for anyone from India and surrounding countries.
Every (inhabited) continent has people in it with a range of ethnicities, even before we look at the effect of modern travel. This is why the use of continental names as descriptions is rather pointless, and has the potential to give offence even before considering whether referring to people's ethnicity is appropriate at all.
In the case of "American", there is an unfortunate ambiguity, because it is conventionally used (by me, too) to mean "those from the United States of America" - in other words, the country name includes the continent name, and worse, the country is commonly referred to as "America". Perhaps I should start to follow the usage of "USians", or "USAians", but those are really very clumsy.
It just occurred to me that saying that America is in North America is a bit like saying that the whole is contained in the part!
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I dub thee:
TANNELORE.
(I am so sorry...)
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Battletoads...
@Madmartigan, I challenge thee to an insult swordfight (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouFightLikeACow) for Emily! Choose thy barb! :-D
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Am I the only one who thinks that Hannelore in the last panel is terrifying?
Also, I may be being slightly derpy here, but I'm pretty sure Emily did that deliberately.
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Also, I may be being slightly derpy here, but I'm pretty sure Emily did that deliberately.
Nope, you're definitely not the only one thinking that. That cheeky-looking smile she gives as Hannelore walks out is more than a little suspicious, and as much as Jeph's characters like to be whacky and slightly airheaded sometimes (and that's fine), I find it a bit of a stretch that Emily would not know the difference between sunscreen and tanning lotion. Especially since she claims to have used it on herself, but hasn't even gone outside.
What does this all mean? Could Emily secretly be a genius? Is this her way of trying to get Hannelore to loosen up? (I imagine if you felt your entire skin was unclean in a sense, and your friends tried their best to calm you down, eventually you might become desensitized to it. But maybe I'm completely wrong about that.)
Of course, if Emily used the tanning lotion on herself, that means that she would tan as well. And that thought is kinda... Has ... well... Do... I don't think I've ever seen a tanned person from the same ethnicity as Emily, is what I'm trying to say. And I'm conjecturing that there might be a reason for that. :psyduck: :psyduck:
Also:
I dub thee:
TANNELORE.
her new name is tannelore
CALLED IT! ;D
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Emily's just a huge troll.
example: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2242
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what's with the picture in panel 5 not having Emily's face in it, but having Emily's face in it in panel 6? if it's supposed to be a mirror, shouldn't it be the back of her head?
Different picture. There's a total of 3 pictures on the wall. Look closely at the last frame, the picture without Emily's face on it is just slightly visible behind (the real) Emily's head.
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I also saw the mischief, but I wondered if maybe Emily was just thrilled to have helped out her new friend or something.
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Emily's just a huge troll.
example: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2242
Heck letting someone play Battletoads may as well be trolling too.
Now pardon me while I try to repress memories of the rage the racing levels induced.
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(http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/86/76/6769cd1c2b49ad26a3ad9acb6638f5f0-magical.gif)
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"File not found"
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I wonder how bad tan lines are going to set off Hannelore's OCD.
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I wonder how bad tan lines are going to set off Hannelore's OCD.
there is a solution.
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Battletoads!!
I salute you, sir!
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Arm sleeves, leggings, a Batman cowl sans cape, and censored nudity would be pretty funny, but it would be more than a bit out of character for anyone but pintsize.
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Aww come on Mari. You can play the vidya at home too.
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The problem I see with that is... Hannelore's OCD would probably go off even harder on a tanning bed, and I could never see her tanning in the sun like that.
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Wait a second, the QCverse has an SNES version of Battletoads? Forget sentient AIs, now I'm jealous. :laugh:
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^ There was Battletoads in Battlemaniacs and Battletoads vs. Double Dragon, and maybe others I'm not thinking of off the top of my head.
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I'd forgotten about Battletoads in Battlemaniacs, but Battletoads & Double Dragon totally doesn't count.
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You know, we can all make fun of Emily for this, but I honestly didn't know the difference between tanning lotion and sunblock until I was a 18 or so. I have enough melanin that it was never an issue or necessity for me.
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Script's written! Now all I have to do is reread 400 old comics to see if I am correctly remembering a plot point from 3 years ago!!!
Source: https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/259187777562890240
I've only been reading for two years now, so it's hard to tell what happened when before I started reading. What were some of the plot points from three years ago?
Clinton's first appearance in the strip?
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Of course, if Emily used the tanning lotion on herself, that means that she would tan as well. And that thought is kinda... Has ... well... Do... I don't think I've ever seen a tanned person from the same ethnicity as Emily, is what I'm trying to say. And I'm conjecturing that there might be a reason for that. :psyduck: :psyduck:
Nah, Japanese people tan. In fact a fashion style, ganguro, was built around getting heavily tanned combined with pastel makeup and bleached hair. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro
I'm surprised that Hannelore would want to spend time outside like that at all. Then again this was the girl who smoked when we first saw here, so perhaps her health fears don't apply to the Sun as much.
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I dub thee:
TANNELORE.
her new name is tannelore
CALLED IT! ;D
King Cooler: "Oh, and could somebody answer that phone? Because I F##KING CALLED IT!!"
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Script's written! Now all I have to do is reread 400 old comics to see if I am correctly remembering a plot point from 3 years ago!!!
Source: https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/259187777562890240
I've only been reading for two years now, so it's hard to tell what happened when before I started reading. What were some of the plot points from three years ago?
Clinton's first appearance in the strip?
That's not that old. However, I seem to remember a strip in which Hanners enumerated the standard content of her handbag, including pepper spray and birth-control pills. Maybe Jeph wanted to check if sunscreen was part of said standard content?
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Wait a second, the QCverse has an SNES version of Battletoads? Forget sentient AIs, now I'm jealous. :laugh:
It might be a Japanese Famicom system, which has the familiar curved controller shape of the US SNES, but plays the games of the NES era.
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Script's written! Now all I have to do is reread 400 old comics to see if I am correctly remembering a plot point from 3 years ago!!!
Source: https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/259187777562890240
I've only been reading for two years now, so it's hard to tell what happened when before I started reading. What were some of the plot points from three years ago?
If Jeph had posted his search terms, he'd have had an answer in minutes from this group.
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But that might have been a spoiler.
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I think Emily looks a little flirty in panel 4. It looks a little like "Yay, I helped out the pretty Hannelore! We got to interact!"
Of course, she is Emily so you never know what she's thinking.
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I think Emily looks a little flirty in panel 4. It looks a little like "Yay, I helped out the pretty Hannelore! We got to interact!"
Of course, she is Emily so you never know what she's thinking.
I definitely read that as a flirty look, but I admit to personal bias.
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What if Emily is using weirdness as a defense mechanism?
Do people need sunscreen in a world with cancer-fighting nanobots? Of course even then they would want to avoid burns.
I hope someone plays video games with Marigirl.
I seem to remember that it was only in the last century that my culture began to tolerate men swimming topless.
Let's hope Emily doesn't have a pet tapir.
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I think that Hanners would either have the sort of white hazmat-type suit that people with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeroderma_pigmentosum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeroderma_pigmentosum) xeroderma pigmentosum wear when they go out [warning: link goes to the Wikipedia article which has a really disturbing photo at the top] or she'd have a personal nanotech fog, invented by her dad, that would both sterilize the air around her and deflect most UV rays, plus be both concealing and tantalizingly revealing.
But, really, I'm just waiting for Marigold to suit up so that I can dang discreetly.
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I'm not sure I get this strip.
Tanning lotion is not tanning spray. It's not a spray-on tan. From Jeph's commentary about active melanocytes, the punchline is supposed to be that Hanners got tanned when she didn't want to; but come on, nobody gets a tan *that* quick. Unless it's supposed to be some QC-verse version of a delayed-action "natural" spray-on tan -- which might explain Emily's borderline trollface.
Okay, so we got Hanners, Faye, and Claire (and Clinton, *shudder*) in swimsuits. This is a terribly tame beach episode.
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Wait a minute... Hanners? With a tan? This... this is impossibru! Although, it will be interesting to see everyone's reaction to this...
And I think that the video-game scene was supposed to be a "Some indeterminate amount of time later" scene, not a matter of seconds. And who says that the people who live in the world that has godly AI systems and regular visits to a satellite-city that the top scientists in the world live in don't have access to something like spray on tanning lotion? :-P
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It would make perfect sense if only Jeph hadn't mentioned the melanocytes.
Maybe tanning spray in the QC world doesn't just turn your skin orange, it contains nanomachines that find and release melanin, or maybe synthesize it? That feels like a bit of a stretch.
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Hanners is awfully orange for it to not be spray-on tan.
Also, I read Emily's expression in panel 4 as trollface. I'm beginning to suspect that she's really not as clueless as she acts, and if she isn't, then she is quickly going to drop from a character I like to a character I despise, as I can't stand two-faced people.
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I think the panel 4 face is meant to be her reaction to seeing what Marigold has found - compare panel 5. But I did wonder.
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Look at the eyebrows in panel 4. That's not mischievous, that's feeling pleased at having helped a friend. At least, that was my interpretation.
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You know, it's about time at least one of those crazy kids got some sun.
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At least it wasn't this stuff... (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/10/19/banana-boat-recalls-sunscreen-after-users-catch-on-fire/)
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You know, we can all make fun of Emily for this, but I honestly didn't know the difference between tanning lotion and sunblock until I was a 18 or so. I have enough melanin that it was never an issue or necessity for me.
I...didn't know there was a difference until this comic.
Seriously.
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(As an aside, dude, I'm not wearing tight jeans, not for fashion reasons but I don't like constricting down there.)
It's unhealthy not to. There's a reason for Europe's prosperity - some form of habitual abuse of the male genitalia is seen in every successful culture in history.
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Look at the eyebrows in panel 4. That's not mischievous, that's feeling pleased at having helped a friend. At least, that was my interpretation.
But in combination with her eyes, it's really not, at least how I see it. They don't seem as wide-open as they usually are in that frame.
As for he looking to the side, that can be a visual indicator of mischievousness. And as her eyes are wide and bright when she's back in-frame with Marigold, I don't think the half-lidded expression of the previous frame was part of her interaction with her.
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(As an aside, dude, I'm not wearing tight jeans, not for fashion reasons but I don't like constricting down there.)
It's unhealthy not to. There's a reason for Europe's prosperity - some form of habitual abuse of the male genitalia is seen in every successful culture in history.
Wait, wait wait. Aren't tighty-whities linked to a lower sperm count?
Then that means... tight pants = male hipster birth control?
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At least it wasn't this stuff... (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/10/19/banana-boat-recalls-sunscreen-after-users-catch-on-fire/)
Hanners looks as if she might catch on fire with or without the aid of whatever Emily used on her.
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It would be an act of charity not to mention spontaneous human combustion to Hannelore. She has enough anxieties already.
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The Gang's (Almost) All Here! Who's next?
Wil and Penelope. 4 (7.8%)
Pizza Girl! 11 (21.6%)
Dora and Tai. 10 (19.6%)
Dora and Tai bring along Raven (as a chaperone). 10 (19.6%)
Sven crashes the party. 1 (2%)
Gabby's older brother... DALE. 9 (17.6%)
Cosette's roommate Luna. 1 (2%)
Emily's AnthroPC. 0 (0%)
Some yet-unknown character. 1 (2%)
Space Station makes a holo-visit! 2 (3.9%)
Enough partygoers! GIT 'ER ON! 2 (3.9%)
Total Members Voted: 51
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It would be an act of charity not to mention spontaneous human combustion to Hannelore. She has enough anxieties already.
Truth. But her last coherent thought might be, "This would be a good way to clean."
Also, I find something ador(k)able about any girl or woman in a plain green tank suit. No, I couldn't explain it even if I wanted to. Green's not even my favorite color.
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My predictions have come true! New Jersey is attacking!
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Also, I find something ador(k)able about any girl or woman in a plain green tank suit. No, I couldn't explain it even if I wanted to. Green's not even my favorite color.
And she has a bottom. Don't get to see that often. Enough.
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Butts, butts, butts.
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Emily scares me
Officially
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What would software written by Emily be like?
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You know, we can all make fun of Emily for this, but I honestly didn't know the difference between tanning lotion and sunblock until I was a 18 or so. I have enough melanin that it was never an issue or necessity for me.
I...didn't know there was a difference until this comic.
Seriously.
I'm confused, because I've heard tons of people call sunblock "suntan lotion". Like, that's what my parents called it when I was growing up, and I go back and forth between the two, and nobody's not known what I meant.
My predictions have come true! New Jersey is attacking!
We are? Nobody tells me nothin'.
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I'm beginning to suspect that she's really not as clueless as she acts, and if she isn't, then she is quickly going to drop from a character I like to a character I despise, as I can't stand two-faced people.
I hope not. Raven's kinda-fake-clueless enough as it is.
...I suddenly really want Emily and Raven to meet. I think that'd be funny.
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I haven't heard about tanning lotion before, we only use sun cream of varying protection factors. I have heard about sunless tanning chemicals in movies, but I don't think that was this.
I wonder if we'll see Marigold in swimsuit at all, if it becomes suddenly evening after gaming.
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I'm beginning to suspect that she's really not as clueless as she acts, and if she isn't, then she is quickly going to drop from a character I like to a character I despise, as I can't stand two-faced people.
I hope not. Raven's kinda-fake-clueless enough as it is.
...I suddenly really want Emily and Raven to meet. I think that'd be funny.
Raven's different, though - she's highly intelligent but flaky as hell, and I don't think I've ever seen her do anything malicious. It's starting to appear to me that Emily knowingly uses a space-cadet facade in order to get away with things that she otherwise wouldn't be able to, and in more than one occasion, things that are mean, inconsiderate, or rude.
Or maybe I'm reading too much into things. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not... gonna get 'I called it' out of the way.
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At this point, I pretty much see Emily as Jeph deciding that he wanted a different Raven.
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I only actually saved it to my hard drive recently. Believe me, I have wanted to use that a LOT.
I'm just glad somebody recognized it. :P
(Now if I could just find a .gif of strikes two and three...)
google image search ftw :)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/bhk1hs.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/wa6pg2.jpg)
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For some of us (the easily burnt), you can't get a tan unless you use a pretty heavy sunscreen to slow the UV process. So it's understandable to get the two mixed up, but real tanning lotion usually has an SPF of about 2, and has oils (usually coconut) that somehow make you browner faster. My wife likes those.
Me, I hit the beach in a wide brimmed hat, t-shirt and trunks. When sitting on the beach I also drape a towel over the legs and feet - nothing more miserable than putting shoes onto sunburnt feet.
After losing the hair, I rarely leave the house without a hat - a sunburnt scalp's no fun either!
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Maybe it's just a matter of attitude.
"I'm round, and proud" ?
Down these narrow streets a man must walk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl6TWGRcs6E
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If Emily is covertly mean, it would be a first in Jeph's characterizations. He's done openly hostile (Hannermom, Vespavenger), and friendly but violent (Faye the kitty cat who only knows how to scratch), but never sneaky.
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It *would* explain the lack of friends though.
Or should she could just be horrendously lacking in socialization.
*edit: I accidentally forgot some words.
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I'm betting in lack of socialization.
Imagine a hybrid Hannelore/Raven combo.
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[SamuelLJacksonVoice] "Oh hell no!" [/SamuelLJacksonVoice]
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Gangbangs in near-boiling water?
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(As an aside, dude, I'm not wearing tight jeans, not for fashion reasons but I don't like constricting down there.)
It's unhealthy not to. There's a reason for Europe's prosperity - some form of habitual abuse of the male genitalia is seen in every successful culture in history.
I am so confused by this quote. Unhealthy not to?
I call sunblock suntan lotion - but it definitely is sunblock that I use. I've never seen tanning lotion actually used, but I would also assume you don't get tanned that fast. I suspect it is just meant to be funny, rather than 100% true to life, like so much of this arc!
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I'd been thinking of it as a spray-on tan...
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In the 1940s, my mother used to apply a tanning liquid to her legs. I remember my fascination with the bottle: The pigment, or whatever it was, didn't remain in suspension. I'd shake it just to watch it swirl around. And now that I think of it, it may have been something a woman might use in the absence of nylon stockings; I don't recall her applying it to her face. Of course she had makeup for that.
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Isn't it old news about suntan lotion being flammable? I mean, there's a really old song that goes "Oh tannin' bomb, oh tannin' bomb...".
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Good job someone left those pun foul GIFs up there, that oughtta discourage … oh.
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I'd like to point out that spray-on tan would have left Hanners looking
orange tan in panel 3, as soon as it was applied. Actual tanning lotion (that promotes a tan, mainly oils of sorts) will accellerate a tan.
Also, we have no wy of knowing how long Emily sat there watching Mari play... it could have been a couple of hours...
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If Emily is covertly mean, it would be a first in Jeph's characterizations. He's done openly hostile (Hannermom, Vespavenger), and friendly but violent (Faye the kitty cat who only knows how to scratch), but never sneaky.
I'm very much in two (or three) minds about Emily's sunscreen trick/goof. A lot depends on how you read her expression in the 4th panel of 2300, and I'm probably factoring in cultural factors that Jeph did not intend.
Someone earlier in this thread referred to Japanese tanning, and linked to the Wikipedia article on ganguro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganguro) fashion. The whole point of ganguro, however, is that it was/is a statement of rebellion. East Asian cultures generally deprecate tanning quite strongly, especially for women, and in China it is very common to see women of all ages covering up and carrying parasols. The use of (sometimes quite dangerous) skin-lightening treatments is also widespread. So depending on how Westernised Emily (who plainly does not tan) is, this could definitely be a dirty trick. On the other hand, why pick on Hannelore, whom she has only met serving smoothies at CoD?
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Maybe she just grabbed the wrong bottle while shopping and didn't realize it. Or someone left it there and she assumed it was the same thing. We'll find out soon, probably.
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I know it's boring, but I think that this is exactly as it appears at face value - she just had no idea there was any difference between sunscreen and tanning lotion. I might not have known myself had I not grown up in an era where all kinds of concoctions containing things like coconut oil were common.
We'll find out soon, probably.
I don't think we will, actually. Just like the mask/hatchet joke - I don't think there will be any further explanation.
(I'm kind of surprised that people are still looking for one, because I had no idea it needed one. It's a joke, Joyce.)
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If nothing else happens, then the explanation is probably that it was a mistake and not that big a deal.
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If nothing else happens, then the explanation is probably that it was a mistake and not that big a deal.
... Except for the whole "Tannelore" thing. Sort of freakin' me out, TBH...
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I was going to suggest Walkyverse myself, actually.