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Title: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Jun 2013, 03:36
And we start the week with a rather topical poll... ;)

(P.S. - Congrats Linds! (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29048.0.html))
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Jun 2013, 04:18
Who the heck is Linds? And I say this after checking Jephs twitter and Google at large for the name, including with wedding. A forum search has two mentions, neither of which offer insight. And dang it, I was gonna do a thread with a poll on dangerous places for kids...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Jun 2013, 05:01
Read. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=7346)

Become educated. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29048.0.html)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: muon on 16 Jun 2013, 08:36
I went with "Who cares? CONGRATULATIONS LINDS!" as a vote for all of the above, although I suppose "Space Ham with Waffle Fries" is pretty much the same thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Jun 2013, 11:45
Read. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=7346)

Become educated. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29048.0.html)
Well, these threads are for discussing the comic, and tangentially its author, but definitely not people only active in other sections of the forum, so excuse me. You really need to find a way to say 'here's an explanation' other than "become educated," because that's rather demeaning for multiple reasons (implications, assumptions, insults, etc.). Perhaps you could say "here's an explanation"!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Jun 2013, 11:54
Ah, yes. I see how that could have been phrased better. I shall try not to do it again. Sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 16 Jun 2013, 16:37
Hmmmm

That main course sounds yummy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Jun 2013, 18:23
Congratulations!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Jun 2013, 22:44
Snappy birthday Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Jun 2013, 23:07
Who the heck is Linds?

Linds is one of the top ten posters (by count) in this forum as a whole.  For people who habitually post in different parts of the forum, it can be hard to remember that there are also people who only post in one section or another and so never become aware of each other - please don't let that become a reason to take offence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Jun 2013, 23:42
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=7346
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 17 Jun 2013, 10:44
yay linds!

HB Jeph!

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 17 Jun 2013, 22:09
Tacos and a beer does sound very good.  Should we invite Tai and Dora?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aldonius on 17 Jun 2013, 22:20
For that last 30 seconds Jim's internal organs were heading directly to somewhere in the far southeastern Indian Ocean (http://www.antipodr.com/?addr=northampton%2C+MA&x=-557&y=-265).

I've been in a situation like that, you think you're over someone, but seeing them with someone just hits you and ugh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2013, 22:38
There's no classy way to say what I'm thinking, so...yay tacos indeed. Was the forum link removed because of the whole malware thing or has it been gone a while without me noticing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 17 Jun 2013, 22:42
It's only gone today - it's not the only one gone, either...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2013, 22:44
Yeah, they're all gone. I don't remember what else was there, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 17 Jun 2013, 22:47
I like meatloaf.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 17 Jun 2013, 22:58
I want to see Jim+daughter hanging out at some place alone, talking about why Daddy is drinking.

Suddenly, spiders begin to crawl up Jim's legs...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 17 Jun 2013, 23:08
There's no classy way to say what I'm thinking, so...yay tacos indeed. Was the forum link removed because of the whole malware thing or has it been gone a while without me noticing?

So that explains why I got the page where it said QC was an attack site today. I knew that Flattr link that was right below the forum link was bad news!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Jun 2013, 23:40
For that last 30 seconds Jim's internal organs were heading directly to somewhere in the far southeastern Indian Ocean (http://www.antipodr.com/?addr=northampton%2C+MA&x=-557&y=-265).

I've been in a situation like that, you think you're over someone, but seeing them with someone just hits you and ugh.

But Jim and Dora was never an item. They went on one date, and decided that it was not to be.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 17 Jun 2013, 23:46
But Jim and Dora was never an item. They went on one date, and decided that it was not to be.

I believe the reason given for that "not to be" was "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" on Dora's part, right?

So while they were never an item, it's still a little bit of a kick in the pants for Jim to see Dora apparently just fine being in a relationship with not-him not long afterward.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: plusorminus on 18 Jun 2013, 00:00
I believe the reason given for that "not to be" was "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" on Dora's part, right?

So while they were never an item, it's still a little bit of a kick in the pants for Jim to see Dora apparently just fine being in a relationship with not-him not long afterward.

I'm not sure I'd classify the Tai-Dora coupling as "not long afterward" in regards to the Jim date. The entire Marten-Padma arc played out before Tai and Dora hooked up, and even that took some time to develop. I personally do not like Jim and think he needs to go after some more age-appropriate women. However, I do think that if he and Tai's places had been switched and Tai was the one Dora dated right after Marten, Tai would have gotten the "I'm not ready" speech and Jim would be giving the sweetheart kisses.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 18 Jun 2013, 00:09
Tacos... Well played, Jeph, well played...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 18 Jun 2013, 00:17
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 18 Jun 2013, 00:18
At first I wondered how Sam suddenly got to be almost as tall as her dad. Then I realized her pose was meant to indicate leaping as for joy.

I wish tacoes and beer made me that joyful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 18 Jun 2013, 01:07
I sincerely hope that that's "shit, she's moved on already" disappointment and not homophobic disgust. It's hard to tell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2013, 01:09
Mad Cat why in the godddess's name don't they? Tacos and beer are AWESOME! Even shitty taco bell tacos can be improved with some cervesas

But yeah, fully acceptable response Jim, just stay out of the tequila buddy. (I am assuming it's "wait what happened to "need some time"?" and not homophobic disgust, Jim strikes me as a pretty cool dude and Sam doesn't parrot any hate stuff like kids that age would.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SJCrew on 18 Jun 2013, 01:26
I sincerely hope that that's "shit, she's moved on already" disappointment and not homophobic disgust. It's hard to tell.
DURRR, AUTHOR WHO IS CONSTANTLY INJECTING SEXUALITY TOLERANCE SEMINARS IN HIS COMICS SUDDENLY MAKES JIM A GAY-HATING DOUCHEBAG, DURR.

That said, he does look younger.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Jun 2013, 01:36
I sincerely hope that that's "shit, she's moved on already" disappointment and not homophobic disgust. It's hard to tell.
DURRR, AUTHOR WHO IS CONSTANTLY INJECTING SEXUALITY TOLERANCE SEMINARS IN HIS COMICS SUDDENLY MAKES JIM A GAY-HATING DOUCHEBAG, DURR.

For a comic that has introduced us to a trans character and a lesbian relationship, coupled with crude sexual jokes and positive(?) sexual messages here and there, there has to be some discourse from the other side of the aisle. I mean, I can't see this world being so raindrops and lollipops without there something going wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 18 Jun 2013, 01:43
I was about to say, Jim does look younger.  Less grey, none of those lines on his face (ignoring the stubble), smaller glasses ...

Jephzibah style development, or was Jim actively trying to look younger for Dora?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 18 Jun 2013, 01:45
Wonder if Jim is trying to convince himself he didn't "turn [Dora] gay" or similar. Like "just how badly did I screw up that date?" style. Seems self-centred enough for that a least…
Because he doesn't know her history at all unless they've talked offscreen whilst exchanging baked goods ad coffee beans.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 18 Jun 2013, 01:47
With all this tolerance there has to be someone intolerant. But i do hope it isn't Jim. I like Jim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 18 Jun 2013, 02:43
I was about to say, Jim does look younger.  Less grey, none of those lines on his face (ignoring the stubble), smaller glasses ...

Jephzibah style development, or was Jim actively trying to look younger for Dora?

 Maybe he was in a "post-divorce look" before? That was a long (?) time ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 18 Jun 2013, 02:46
It really didn't occur to me that Jim's reaction might have to do with homophobia and I still think it's unlikely. I think it's just that thing aldonius pointed out: You liked someone, it somehow didn't work out, but it's still hard to see them with someone else especially since you are still single in spite of going on at least one date. I really think Jim wouldn't have had that reaction if he was in a relationship himself.
Although I remember him saying that he didn't really want anything serious, he really seems to be looking for something.
I did not notice that Jim looked younger. But now that you mention it... yes, he does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 18 Jun 2013, 02:59
Yeah, that's a GLOOOOOOM reaction that has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

Basically the same class of reaction that Tai and Marten had when they found out that Dora was going on a date with Jim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 18 Jun 2013, 03:04
Yeah, I don't think it's a homophobic reaction, it looks more like surprisal to me. Probably paired with disappointment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fluffy Dragon on 18 Jun 2013, 03:06

So that explains why I got the page where it said QC was an attack site today. I knew that Flattr link that was right below the forum link was bad news!!

I'm pretty sure it was one of the ads that were at fault, and not Jeph & Co.
two other webcomics I read were flagged at the same time, Menage á 3 and Go Get a Roomie.
the company that deals with the ads probably removed it within minutes, but the warning remains for a few hours (gone now, though).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 18 Jun 2013, 03:08
Hey Jim, Dora has a great recipe for  tacos (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1538)!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Jun 2013, 03:22
I'm pretty sure it was one of the ads that were at fault, and not Jeph & Co.

An ad feed used by a lot of comic sites was hacked following an automatic update of some software on the server which opened a hole in their security.  There was no actual virus present, just code designed to be detected as malware; this was a targetted attack aimed at getting the comic sites blacklisted by Google - as they were.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 18 Jun 2013, 03:43
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?

Yes. Yes there is.

I'm not sure I'd classify the Tai-Dora coupling as "not long afterward" in regards to the Jim date. The entire Marten-Padma arc played out before Tai and Dora hooked up, and even that took some time to develop. I personally do not like Jim and think he needs to go after some more age-appropriate women. However, I do think that if he and Tai's places had been switched and Tai was the one Dora dated right after Marten, Tai would have gotten the "I'm not ready" speech and Jim would be giving the sweetheart kisses.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe if Jim had known Dora for years prior to their date and gave her the kind of You Are Completely Awesome speech Tai did he'd have tugged her back up on her feet sooner. Who knows?

Point being, it didn't work out that way and this is his first notification that there's not going to be a second chance for him with Dora in the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 18 Jun 2013, 04:17
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?

Yes, and it is a little crude, and fortunately for Sam - just a little above her head ATM.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 18 Jun 2013, 04:35
In Jim's place I'd want something a lot stronger than beer.  And where is Tai's right hand? Has it something to do with the expression on Dora's face?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Jun 2013, 04:59
Although I remember him saying that he didn't really want anything serious, he really seems to be looking for something.

Looking for something "low pressure." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2185) Or a relationship, I can't make sense outta it. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1969)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 18 Jun 2013, 06:07
I believe the reason given for that "not to be" was "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" on Dora's part, right?

So while they were never an item, it's still a little bit of a kick in the pants for Jim to see Dora apparently just fine being in a relationship with not-him not long afterward.

I'm not sure I'd classify the Tai-Dora coupling as "not long afterward" in regards to the Jim date. The entire Marten-Padma arc played out before Tai and Dora hooked up, and even that took some time to develop. I personally do not like Jim and think he needs to go after some more age-appropriate women. However, I do think that if he and Tai's places had been switched and Tai was the one Dora dated right after Marten, Tai would have gotten the "I'm not ready" speech and Jim would be giving the sweetheart kisses.

You bring up age appropriate when Dora is likely 8 years older than Tai? :psyduck:

Jim, imo, is 40s-early 40s.  Dora is the oldest of "the group" and I'm betting at this point she's 30.

I'm so-so on age difference.  Mostly 20 year old and a 40 year old.  They're just at WAY different points in their life.  I don't understand what "age inappropriate" about Jim/Dora. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 18 Jun 2013, 06:16
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?
Let's just say that the traditional alternative to tacos would be hot dogs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 18 Jun 2013, 06:46
Dora's 26, I thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Sword on 18 Jun 2013, 07:03
Am I allowed to point out the hypocrisy of people screaming for tolerance for lesbian relationships while voicing disapproval of relationships with age gaps?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 18 Jun 2013, 07:08
Most definitely, Black Sword.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lot_jockey on 18 Jun 2013, 07:43
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?

Yes. Yes there is.

I'm not sure I'd classify the Tai-Dora coupling as "not long afterward" in regards to the Jim date. The entire Marten-Padma arc played out before Tai and Dora hooked up, and even that took some time to develop. I personally do not like Jim and think he needs to go after some more age-appropriate women. However, I do think that if he and Tai's places had been switched and Tai was the one Dora dated right after Marten, Tai would have gotten the "I'm not ready" speech and Jim would be giving the sweetheart kisses.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe if Jim had known Dora for years prior to their date and gave her the kind of You Are Completely Awesome speech Tai did he'd have tugged her back up on her feet sooner. Who knows?

Point being, it didn't work out that way and this is his first notification that there's not going to be a second chance for him with Dora in the foreseeable future.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1963

Jim wanted another try once Dora sorted her issues out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 18 Jun 2013, 07:45
I like meatloaf.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Jun 2013, 08:03
I knew someone was going to do that.

And that song, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 08:22
Am I allowed to point out the hypocrisy of people screaming for tolerance for lesbian relationships while voicing disapproval of relationships with age gaps?
I see no hypocrisy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Sword on 18 Jun 2013, 08:29
MoM, they're saying people should be tolerant of lesbian relationships while being intolerant of relationships with age gaps. That's hypocrisy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 18 Jun 2013, 08:52
I can almost hear the indignant "that's different!"

Yes, it's a different value system that leads to intolerance of relationships with age gaps.  It's still the same kind of intolerance of the choices of people who (obviously) do not share the value system in question.

"Yes ... but, see, they're wrong." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1289)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 08:59
General intolerance and disapproval based on individual cases are different.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 18 Jun 2013, 09:12
No, not really. General intolerance and individual cases are interwoven. It's also not like individual cases of intolerance are suddenly fine because they're just picking on the specific people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 09:32
So if I think Dora and Jim are wrong for each other that's intolerance? :psyduck:

Also I never said the disapproval was based on intolerance!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Jun 2013, 09:37
OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

I should probably disclose at this point that during my 20s and 30s I had several relationships with older women - 17 years older in one case. So if you're going to generalize about relationships with age differences, I'll be ready with several counterexamples from my own life that likely don't fit your generalizations. Fire away, I'm ready.  :mrgreen:

So if I think Dora and Jim are wrong for each other that's intolerance? :psyduck:

Also I never said the disapproval was based on intolerance!

If you disapprove solely because of their age difference, then yes, that's intolerance. If you think they're wrong for other reasons, that's a different story - I happen to think they're not right for each other myself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 09:51
Akima:  :? Is there an innuendo I am missing?
Why are other responses dancing around answering this? Eating a taco = cunnilingus.

Oh hey, 1000 posts! WHOOO!   :psyduck: :mrgreen: :parrot: O0
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 09:59
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=7346
see
Read. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=profile;u=7346)

Who the heck is Linds?
Linds is one of the top ten posters (by count) in this forum as a whole.  For people who habitually post in different parts of the forum, it can be hard to remember that there are also people who only post in one section or another and so never become aware of each other - please don't let that become a reason to take offense.
I'm aware that there are people that only go to other parts of the forum (though it seems weird to go to a forum and never discuss the reason for its existence), but I don't know any of them and am perplexed that someone who never comes to these threads was suddenly the subject of a poll in one. I'm also a bit creeped out and uncomfortable because I'm not really interested in suddenly being asked about a personal event in the life of someone I've never met or talked to or seen speak. I haven't answered the poll (and I always answer the polls) and am hoping it goes away soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 18 Jun 2013, 10:10
Am I allowed to point out the hypocrisy of people screaming for tolerance for lesbian relationships while voicing disapproval of relationships with age gaps?

Err. I have to break a few blades about that.*

See, an experience I made in my family immediate circle of relatives was that because of different ages (23 years apart), they had different values; the more progressive member of the marriage in question ended up under the heel of the racist homophobic part. Of course, you will argue that that's not a matter of age alone, and you will be right. I am just saying that with an age difference, the risk of values dissonance (and thus potential for conflict) increases.

*LENGF: "ein paar Klingen brechen" (to break a few blades) means to fight persistently for a cause.

I'm also a bit creeped out and uncomfortable because I'm not really interested in suddenly being asked about a personal event in the life of someone I've never met or talked to or seen speak.
I can understand the underlined part, but not the bolded one. How does it creep you out?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 10:22
I'm also a bit creeped out and uncomfortable because I'm not really interested in suddenly being asked about a personal event in the life of someone I've never met or talked to or seen speak.
I can understand the underlined part, but not the bolded one. How does it creep you out?
The same way an old woman coming up to you in the store and launching into a story about her hemorrhoids is creepy, just less severe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 10:23
It's partly their age but more that they're in different stages of life. I don't think it's wrong, I'm just skeptical that it'd work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2013, 10:26
Dora was 26 when the comic started. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1958 is consistent with her being 28 now although that one was meant to be approximate.

Jim may not have much dating experience if he doesn't know what "I'm not ready for a relationship" means.

His reaction is also consistent with "Ooh, gross! Get a room!".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 18 Jun 2013, 10:30
The same way an old woman coming up to you in the store and launching into a story about her hemorrhoids is creepy, just less severe.

...I cannot understand that either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2013, 10:34
Jim and Dora are at comparable stages in life despite the age difference. They've both succeeded at business, been in LTRs, and so on.

If "two-thirds my age" were an orientation then the analogy with lesbian relationships would be valid.

We don't know the Dora/Tai age difference: if Tai is a grad student she's probably 22+. Definitely different stages in life though!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 11:14
The same way an old woman coming up to you in the store and launching into a story about her hemorrhoids is creepy, just less severe.
...I cannot understand that either.
Then we have different understandings of what creepy is. Oversharing is creepy to me. It makes me uneasy and desire escape.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 18 Jun 2013, 11:17
If "two-thirds my age" were an orientation then the analogy with lesbian relationships would be valid.

..No. Things don't have to be the same to be comparable situations. It's not like race, sexual orientation and gender identity are equivalent phenomena, yet there's plenty of analogies to be drawn regarding bigotries.

There's no good reason to consider it innately inappropriate; make all the excuses you want, it still comes down to personal compatibility.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: plusorminus on 18 Jun 2013, 11:18

You bring up age appropriate when Dora is likely 8 years older than Tai? :psyduck:

Jim, imo, is 40s-early 40s.  Dora is the oldest of "the group" and I'm betting at this point she's 30.

I'm so-so on age difference.  Mostly 20 year old and a 40 year old.  They're just at WAY different points in their life.  I don't understand what "age inappropriate" about Jim/Dora.

I don't think anyone in the QC world, that is Faye, Dora and Marten, are 30 per this comic. In real time, yes, Dora would be in her 30s and Marten and Faye would be just touching 30, but time froze for them some time ago and I believe they are all in their 20s.

A grad student on the low end can be 21 or 22. If Dora is 28, then at most, Tai is 6 years younger. Six years =/= 14 years.

I have issues with Jim. He has more or less stated he prefers younger women when he made that quip that he would have asked Dora out even if she were *gasp* 30. Kind of strange for a man who has had a vasectomy. Many women in the age-bracket he seeks would consider that a deal breaker.

If it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. I am gay, so I obviously have no problems with gay relationships. I do have problems with entitled men with teen daughters opening businesses that attract a younger crowd (ie a coffee shop) in a college town who clearly prefers to date significantly younger than himself. JMO.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 11:28
Jim may not have much dating experience if he doesn't know what "I'm not ready for a relationship" means.
What does it mean if not that?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Jun 2013, 12:03
Possibly there is sometimes an unspoken "with you" on the end of that sentence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: someone on 18 Jun 2013, 12:36
 :? I don’t know why that the dad is upset. He had one date with Dora some time ago. Dora has moved on. She is now locked into a co-dependent future with her crazy, walking personality disorder girlfriend who will treat her to future of anguish, hearing about the various groups her therapist refers her to, and a series of breakups/desperate reunifications couched in drama revolving around Tai's needs. He should be glad.

He also should ask Jacques to move him to the Harem Manga portion of the comic where Marty the slacker hangs out with all the charming girls. That is way more entertaining and uplifting. He also won’t have to worry about his daughter learning life skills from Tai. In today’s world, girls are best not mentored by drug addled narcissists that use sexual recklessness as a self-esteem coping tool.

In defense of these poor souls, they are actually the most realistic characters in the comic. My wife’s caseload at the community mental health center is full of women like this. Maybe unintentionally, Jacques has created characters that are actually useful if he was doing a web comic that was not supposed to be as comedic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 18 Jun 2013, 12:50
I have issues with Jim. He has more or less stated he prefers younger women when he made that quip that he would have asked Dora out even if she were *gasp* 30. Kind of strange for a man who has had a vasectomy. Many women in the age-bracket he seeks would consider that a deal breaker.

Hmm. I agree that it would be a deal breaker for many. But is it not impossible that Jim would have brought up his vasectomy then and there (in strip #1958), if Dora had reacted to his quib differently? Not the most tactful way of bringing up the topic, but can you suggest a better one (other than may be waiting for the third date).

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If it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. I am gay, so I obviously have no problems with gay relationships. I do have problems with entitled men with teen daughters opening businesses that attract a younger crowd (ie a coffee shop) in a college town who clearly prefers to date significantly younger than himself. JMO.

Here I disagree. Jim is running a bakery. May be simply because that has the highest market value among his talents? May be for some other reason (founded by his great-grandfather five generations back)? Bakeries may attract different type of clients than coffee shops. Look at the interior of tSB. A bit different from CoD! I betcha his not playing heavy metal either! I cannot tell, whether tSB is designed to appeal to younger people. But even if it were, it could easily be explained as making sense business-wise given that it is in a town, where a significant fraction of the population are college women.

Anyway, Padma seemed to be in charge of the daily operations. Have we ever seen Jim behind the counter? The suggestion that Jim is trying to use tSB as a way of meeting single young women is just stretching the available evidence a bit IMHO.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Jun 2013, 13:00
OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2013, 13:02
Wonder if Jim is trying to convince himself he didn't "turn [Dora] gay" or similar. Like "just how badly did I screw up that date?" style. Seems self-centred enough for that a least…

That's not really being self centered, that's just standard neuroses and a critical lack of self confidence. I really don't think that's what Jim is thinking though.

I have issues with Jim. He has more or less stated he prefers younger women when he made that quip that he would have asked Dora out even if she were *gasp* 30. Kind of strange for a man who has had a vasectomy. Many women in the age-bracket he seeks would consider that a deal breaker.

If it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. I am gay, so I obviously have no problems with gay relationships. I do have problems with entitled men with teen daughters opening businesses that attract a younger crowd (ie a coffee shop) in a college town who clearly prefers to date significantly younger than himself. JMO.

Significantly? Dora is as we said at most 14 years, which isn't significant at all, not in Jim and Dora's age range, nor as previously mentioned their stations in life. and I seem to recall Jim was under the impression she was older because you know, the whole "together business woman persona". I also want to know just who you think opens coffee shops for the most part, or bakeries like Jim. Hint young entrepreneurs with guts like Dora are the exception, not the rule. I'm also missing the "entitled" bit, Jim's always seemed like a nice guy, if a bit up to his neck on how to handle Sam properly at times. Also don't see what his personal choice to have a vasectomy has to do with anything.

Re: the bolded section, sarcasm is a new concept for you isn't it?

Over all I think everyone's reading /way/ too much into Jim's reaction and projecting way too much of their own horse shit on to him. Dude's just a dude, reacting as most dudes would. Let it go.

OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

Because another culture's odd practice that even most of THEIR OWN CULTURE doesn't practice or like is totally relevant to a nigh meaningless age gap between two mature, consenting adults. Shine on you crazy diamond.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 18 Jun 2013, 13:18
Yadda yadda yadda ...... voicing disapproval of relationships with age gaps? ... etc etc etc

Creepyness rule [nongender specific]

AGE ≥ ((Age / 2) + 7)

So half less seven in age difference seems to be therule of being acceptable.

Warning - while you were reading 2 new replies have been posted. The universe has begun to enter heat death. Fezzes are cool. You may wish to update your universe or order some strawberry rhubarb pie.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: plusorminus on 18 Jun 2013, 13:25

Re: the bolded section, sarcasm is a new concept for you isn't it?

Um. No. Is someone having an opinion different than yours a new concept for you? Anyway, I didn't read it as sarcastic. Dora points out that it's still 12 years difference and Jim is just "Heh heh" about it. He was, in my view, being serious. But even if he wasn't, what difference does it make? We know he made a play for Dora and he went on a date with someone at least of childbearing age because he said it wouldn't work out due to her being upfront about wanting a family.

At any rate, my initial point was that I have been on the receiving end of "Not ready/It's not you, it's me" sort of conversations and they've been BS. I really do think it was a timing thing with Dora and that if Tai had tried when Jim did she would've gotten kicked to the curb, and if he had tried when Tai did, Dora would have tried to see where it could go past one day. My take on Jim's expression is that he realizes that he likely dithered around too long and didn't circle back. I don't see this as having taken place in as short a time as other's think. At least a few months in comic time, if not more has passed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 18 Jun 2013, 13:25
Yadda yadda yadda ...... voicing disapproval of relationships with age gaps? ... etc etc etc
Creepyness rule [nongender specific]
AGE ≥ ((Age / 2) + 7)

..Or alternatively one can simply not use arbitrary rules like that as to when it's acceptable to fall in love? It'd be "creepy" if I had genuine feelings for a 40 year old guy while 22? I'd have to wait until I'm 27 until it's "acceptable"?

How about "no".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2013, 13:27
And your second paragraph's absolutely right, but I find your interpretation of that line from Jim to be so ridiculously off base, especially in a webcomic that's primary form of communication is a mixture of snark and sarcasm followed in close second by a finely powdered insanity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 18 Jun 2013, 13:32
Age differences are not the problem. The only problem, if there is one, lies in power disparity. If both parties are adults and one does not hold a significant amount of power over the other, then there's nothing untoward about it.

As a gay lady who has dated plenty of older women, some significantly so, I don't understand why anyone would pass judgment on one while accepting the other. Who you love (or simply lust after) is who you love (or lust). I find older women attractive, physically and emotionally. And apparently plenty of them have found me the same. Once past the age of consent, acceptable age disparity becomes arbitrary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Jun 2013, 13:47
OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

There's more going on there than just an age difference. The whole idea of paying someone to date you is creepy, yes, but that's the case even when both people are the same age.

So let's see about a specific counter-example. When I was 30 I started dating a woman who was 47. Neither of us paid the other. We were both financially independent - I actually made more than she did, but that was because I was a software developer and she was a teacher. Still creepy?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 18 Jun 2013, 13:57
For me, the creepiness, or perhaps simple cynicism, would be a difference in maturity levels, quite apart from calendar age differences (I knew a May- ... well, September ... couple about whom I had misgivings for that reason; the younger-in-years partner was/is way more mature than the older partner. I don't know the reason for the eventual divorce but I can guess.)

Age of consent and the older-in-years person using that age/authority to advantage in the relationship (teacher-student, boss-subordinate) would certainly contribute to my disapproval.

Beyond that, I tend to go with the line "all adults are the same age," with "adult" defined as "one who accepts responsibility for one's actions, including and perhaps especially as they affect others."

I have a little bet with myself as to who in this forum will respond in what way to the comments above.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 18 Jun 2013, 14:10
I hope people aren't trying took at this with some homophobia angle because that's absurd. It's more so a blow to Jim's pride. He wanted to get another chance with Dora when she worked out her issues only to find out that not only has she worked out her issues and is dating someone without even letting him know, it's another female. Now Jim possibly feels like he was being led on and as a man I can understand that feeling. Jeph definitely caught me off guard with the taco joke though lol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: 94ssd on 18 Jun 2013, 14:21
I like meatloaf.


Better song! You have to listen to this one. I didn't know of its existence until recently and now it's one of my favorites.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Jun 2013, 14:45
a difference in maturity levels,

Even people of the same age have differences in maturity levels.  And one or the other may be more mature in one or another aspect of life as well.  Basically, all that can be done is for people (of any legal ages) to take the time and trouble to get to know each other well enough to decide whether they are a suitable couple in their own eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 18 Jun 2013, 14:46
Better song! You have to listen to this one. I didn't know of its existence until recently and now it's one of my favorites.
Ah, I don't think I've heard it since it was new.

... the '90s were not all bad.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 18 Jun 2013, 15:20
I like meatloaf.

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 18 Jun 2013, 16:13
So if I think Dora and Jim are wrong for each other that's intolerance? :psyduck:

Also I never said the disapproval was based on intolerance!

Of course not, just like I think Dora and Tai are wrong for each other.  Fact remains, someone brought up "age appropriate" for who Jim should date.  Now, I can see a problem with college student (18-22) and a 40 year old man with a kid or something.

But I'm lead to believe Dora is 28ish to a high of 30.  Definitely late 20s.  She's far closer to the life of Jim than the life of say, Tai, who doesn't know what she wants in life yet/still figuring that out.

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If it makes me a hypocrite, so be it. I am gay, so I obviously have no problems with gay relationships. I do have problems with entitled men with teen daughters opening businesses that attract a younger crowd (ie a coffee shop) in a college town who clearly prefers to date significantly younger than himself. JMO.

Wow. Wow. Double wow.  I'm left speechless at the absurdity.  I'll let someone else handle this one as I don't think I could respond well enough to not come across as an ass.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 18 Jun 2013, 16:20

Better song! You have to listen to this one. I didn't know of its existence until recently and now it's one of my favorites.



He has said he hates singing this one because it's basically a capsule autobiography.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 19:55
Next comic, we'll turn out to be completely off base with our talk about age and sexual orientation and he'll mutter "damn Asians, takin' our women."

I'm restating this, but Dora is widely estimated to be 28, and Jim is probably in his late 30s/early 40s. This isn't an especially large gap (certainly not as large as the one in the recently canceled marriage of Rupert Murdoch and Wendi Deng), and they're of similar apparent maturity levels and career positions, so had it happened, theirs would be a pretty low risk relationship for cultural disapproval.

In general, I think the issue with age difference is that it gets conflated with maturity difference because our society is very confused on those points (which isn't helped by the lack of an objective standard for maturity), so people of very different ages are assumed to have very different levels of maturity regardless of evidence to the contrary. Thus people get huffy about a 30 and a 40 year old mature person hooking up, but wouldn't blink at an immature 30 year old and a mature 30 year old together. This also slides downwards into age of consent laws, and people who are above them but still too juvenile, but there be dragons.

I will point to the movie Big with Tom Hanks, which generally failed to be controversial despite having an immature 30 year old and a mature 30 year old together- with the twist that the immature one was actually a 13 year old boy agified via magic (perhaps it would have been more badly received with a gender swap?). It's most remembered for a floor piano duet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2013, 20:47
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: blacksinow on 18 Jun 2013, 21:52
As someone who considers themselves to be the most neutral person possible in this discussion, I think that it is only fair to confirm what some have been saying.

To some out there, the idea of someone older "coupling" sexually with someone younger may sound repulsive. Also, as mentioned, there could very well be a conflict in lifestyle and culture. Where the younger person may want to go clubbing or even play an mmorpg, where an older person may prefer opera or perhaps a documentary. You get the general idea here. But a gay relationship, well that's a different horse all together, but mostly because everyone has a different opinion for it.

Now for my reaction to the comic. I'm going to predict that Dora (being the kind of person she is) is going to show discomfort. She seems more of the kind've person to react badly to anything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2013, 21:58
Sven told Faye recently that he's 28, and Dora is a year younger.

We don't know Tai's ethnicity. What exactly did that one strip say about her red hair?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2013, 22:45
Just that it was out of the box.

Not sure if bitter Jim is bitter...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 18 Jun 2013, 23:14
Just that it was out of the box.

Not sure if bitter Jim is bitter...

When did we start talking about hard liquor?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 18 Jun 2013, 23:17
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
I didn't say she was Asian, Jim said she was Asian.  :-P  Her ethnicity is Ambiguously Brown. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguouslyBrown)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Jun 2013, 23:19


I have issues with Jim. He has more or less stated he prefers younger women when he made that quip that he would have asked Dora out even if she were *gasp* 30.

I got the impression that he was not entirely serious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2013, 23:26
He does think of Dora as being in a different life stage from himself if we can draw conclusions from today's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Jun 2013, 23:26
OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

This seems to be more about income difference than age difference.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 18 Jun 2013, 23:57
I'm glad I was wrong about you Jim.  :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 19 Jun 2013, 00:09
I have my birthday the day after Jeph does.

I just happen to have received Random Access Memories for my birthday.

Thanks Jeph. Cause what I really wanted was MORE of that song stuck in my head... ;D

(The new Daft Punk album is kind of awesome, but then I have very low standards so what do I know? :P )
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SJCrew on 19 Jun 2013, 00:20
Jim is a pretty charismatic character, I have to admit. Quite unlike, well, everyone else in the strip who's too quirky or flawed to take seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 19 Jun 2013, 00:24
Age difference in a relationship, is IMHO, not as important as the difference in maturity (been said before...).

Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term). I would say age difference is one of those subjects: older people are less fertile, so, for one of the partners, it is a waste of reproductive potential (vasectomy nonewithstanding).
We have those preconceptions for a reason. While it may be outdated/unreasonable (as in not anchored in reason), it has served us for millenia. It's now kinda hard to get rid of it.

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Warning - while you were typing Ragnarok happened. You may wish to remove yourself from Yggdrasil post-haste.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 19 Jun 2013, 00:34
Happy birthday, WAYF!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 19 Jun 2013, 01:08
Basically, all that can be done is for people (of any legal ages) to take the time and trouble to get to know each other well enough to decide whether they are a suitable couple in their own eyes.
That's true enough. Age (provided of course they are of legal age) and maturity are pretty insignificant if there is a mutual feeling of love between a couple.

OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai
That is a different kettle of fish. This is not by any means a "feeling of mutual love", more closer to "payment for services rendered" and "wrong, wrong, wrong".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 19 Jun 2013, 01:27
I'm glad I was wrong about you Jim.  :)

I'm glad I was right! =D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alerie Sand on 19 Jun 2013, 01:31
Aw, looks like Jim is gonna be okay with it  :-)
Looks like he might only need one or two beers in the end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 19 Jun 2013, 02:28
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
Not much; I have no idea where that came from. Her first name is possibly of Chinese or Vietnamese origin (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,26804.msg1041168.html#msg1041168) but her surname, Hubbert, certainly isn't.

Jim rebounds from taco tacky to classy in one strip!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LittleKing on 19 Jun 2013, 02:38
I have my birthday the day after Jeph does.

I just happen to have received Random Access Memories for my birthday.

Thanks Jeph. Cause what I really wanted was MORE of that song stuck in my head... ;D

(The new Daft Punk album is kind of awesome, but then I have very low standards so what do I know? :P )
I really like the album too. The song Sam's singing is actually my current ringtone :P

And happy birthday btw ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 19 Jun 2013, 04:49
Jim can still have tacos and beer, right? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 19 Jun 2013, 04:55
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
Not much; I have no idea where that came from.
In one of Jeph's Q&A posts he answers the question (quoting from memory)
Q. What ethnicity is Tai?
A. Tanned.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Jun 2013, 06:03
Could be worse. She could be singing about dancing off the Hollywood sign.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 19 Jun 2013, 07:18
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
Not much; I have no idea where that came from.
In one of Jeph's Q&A posts he answers the question (quoting from memory)
Q. What ethnicity is Tai?
A. Tanned.
See:
Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?
I didn't say she was Asian, Jim said she was Asian.  :-P  Her ethnicity is Ambiguously Brown. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguouslyBrown)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 08:02
Except even "ambiguously brown" is more detail than we're given.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 19 Jun 2013, 09:34
Just to mention it, when my wife and I married, I was 42, she was 26. We're still married after 13 years.

I have no trouble with any relationship as long as it isn't judged by some outside factor (age, preference, tattoos); let the people involved decide. Its no one else's business.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jun 2013, 15:25
I like Jim, he's funny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 15:37
I'm 25. While I can imagine that, were I single, dating someone say...ten years older than me, I can't imagine doing the reverse. That is, dating someone who's 25 when I'm 35 (I wasn't referring to dating a 15-year-old now, although obviously no interest in doing that either). Yes, that's just what works for me, not necessarily for anyone else, but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

I do hope that made sense.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 19 Jun 2013, 16:09
but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

You could try not going on that non-information at all and not being prejudiced and presumptuous? Just a suggestion. :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:10
Who said I was being either?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 19 Jun 2013, 16:15
You just did? What else does "Looking at the relationships of others and judging whether they'll work based solely on age-difference" entail?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:18
It entails not changing key words when you quote someone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 19 Jun 2013, 16:23
..I didn't. I quoted your exact words in the original post I responded to, but then I paraphrased the way it read? What?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:26
Because you changed thinking to judging which is a pretty damn big change. If I think something wouldn't work for me, that doesn't I mean that someone else shouldn't try it, and it certainly doesn't mean I'm judging them for doing so. That is to say, I can't imagine it working because I can't imagine it working, but I won't tell them not to try.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 19 Jun 2013, 16:31
How is "I think their relationship won't work because X" particularly different from "judging" that to be the case..? Isn't thinking those kinds of things pretty much synonymous with being judgmental about it?

I also don't see why you're bringing it back to "wouldn't work for me" when you talked about the relationships of others with that as the sole information on their compatibility. I also didn't say anything about forbidding it, but it's not like that has ever been a requirement for being judgmental about something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:31
I never said that was the sole information I used to determine that, it was just the one we were talking about. Then again, maybe I did without realizing it. It's probably best to ignore me on this topic, as I'm not sure at the moment what I'm talking about anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 19 Jun 2013, 16:35
"I never said that was the sole information I used"? You literally, word-for-word, said "all I have to go on"! :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:36
Oh, now I understand! I was referring to whether or not I thought the relationship would work. That is, my own perspective is the only thing I have to go on. Not that one sole piece of information.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylentknight on 19 Jun 2013, 19:05
It's probably been said before, and it's very unlikely to happen (too convenient), however, ...Jim and Veronica?

"...and away we go."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jun 2013, 19:27
*Puts on steel helmet and ducks behind Parapet*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 19 Jun 2013, 19:40
Uh, no. I really strongly doubt that Veronica is Jim's type.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 20:00
Also, Jim might be too old for Veronica. Isn't she usually into the younger ones?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 19 Jun 2013, 20:34
But she's so lone-leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Truec on 19 Jun 2013, 20:46
Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term). I would say age difference is one of those subjects: older people are less fertile, so, for one of the partners, it is a waste of reproductive potential (vasectomy nonewithstanding).
We have those preconceptions for a reason. While it may be outdated/unreasonable (as in not anchored in reason), it has served us for millenia. It's now kinda hard to get rid of it.

Do we have a biological preconception about age differences?  It hasn't been that long since older men marrying younger women was considered the natural order of things in most of the western world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 19 Jun 2013, 21:54
Also, Jim might be too old for Veronica. Isn't she usually into the younger ones?

Only if they pay her rates. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1823)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 20 Jun 2013, 00:13
Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term).
Hmm. If genetics were the only factor, then incest taboo would exist for all species. Yet that is not the case. Ask a cattle breeder, the alpha male of a wolf pack, or the queen bee (I could be mistaken about the last one, but wanted to add a matrilineal example). Genetically the mechanism is (me thinks) that inbreeding reinforces all traits, good and bad ones alike. It works for those species, where reproduction is limited to "the fittest genes". Not without risks, granted, and only when the species is willing to dispose of failed offspring. This wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_taboo) is probably closer to the mark.  The taboo is common among primates, and thus the root causes are likely sociological, a consequence of the primate lifestyle? Marriage of close relatives cuts down the spreading of the social network to other clans.

Large age disparity may work the same way, but the case is not as strong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Jun 2013, 00:43
Mice prefer mating with others whose MHC is as different as possible.

Jim, never mind the soul patch, why not try tucking in your shirt?

Will tacos be the next meme food?

Did Jim want to eat a balled taco?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 20 Jun 2013, 01:17
Incest taboo is also a cultural thing.* For example, sibling marriage was the norm for some time in the Egyptian royal family (but not among the commoners). Other cultures impose different limits on the definition of "family" for the purposes of the definition of incest. Surly the most prominent example in modern culture is the question whether cousins should be allowed to marry; but other cultures might consider two people "related" if they are related by marriage only, even if the marriage no longer exists.


*Incidentally, so is the notion that you should tuck your shirt in. This really puts the impact culture has on us into perspective.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 20 Jun 2013, 01:28
I hate tucking my shirt in. I refuse to do it 99% of the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jun 2013, 01:36
I can't deal with one that's not tucked in.  The waistband of my pants feels weird without something there under it.  I tuck t-shirts and polos, too. 


But that's just what I'm used to, I guess. 



By the way, I'm back!  Didja miss me? 


And does anyone know what happened to the list of links on the comic homepage?  They're still listed in the sourcecode (yeah, I checked) but I don't see them in any browser (no, I haven't checked them all... just firefox and IE)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alerie Sand on 20 Jun 2013, 02:07
I reallyyy want tacos now...

I hadn't noticed his untucked shirt, maybe it was just a long day and it helps him unwind?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 20 Jun 2013, 02:50
It's untucked in his first appearance. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1926) I don't like the look of tucked shirts. The only time I tucked mine was school.

As well as looking a bit younger, has Jim got a little thinner? It may just be the rolled up sleeves.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 20 Jun 2013, 02:50
My opinion of incest prohibitions is that they're about as reasonable as left handedness persecution- which is more universal, interestingly, kind of killing "most other societies ban it too!" The relationship of consenting people is none of my business.

Age has not been an issue for humans in terms of genetic breakdown until recently.

It started being tacitly acceptable to tuck in dress shirts around the same time obesity rates started climbing hard. I don't tuck in, but that's because I have a long torso, so short of special (read: expensive) shirt, any that reaches my waist and allows decent range of motion without showing skin will also look baggy on me, which gets exacerbated by being tucked in. So, polo shirts one size larger than I really should wear are my work attire.

The comic and other links are gone while the false malware reading is troubleshot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 20 Jun 2013, 04:41
It's not the sole patch Jim - it's because you look like Littlefinger.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 20 Jun 2013, 05:12
If Jim does not want to tuck in his shirt, he should not wear a shirt meant to be tucked in. It looks sloppy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 20 Jun 2013, 06:21
Screw shirts. Jim, you can do whatever you want. I like you so you earned it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2013, 06:25
Even if I wear a shirt like that I only tuck it in if I'm going to something formal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 20 Jun 2013, 06:27
Even if I wear a shirt like that I only tuck it in if I'm going to something formal.

I only wear shirts like that when I'm going to something formal, and then I tuck them of course. Ordinary casual shirts I won't tuck.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2013, 06:43
I'll wear one occasionally with jeans to a casual thing. I never roll up the sleeves, though. It's just not comfortable to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 20 Jun 2013, 06:52
I'm 25. While I can imagine that, were I single, dating someone say...ten years older than me, I can't imagine doing the reverse. That is, dating someone who's 25 when I'm 35 (I wasn't referring to dating a 15-year-old now, although obviously no interest in doing that either). Yes, that's just what works for me, not necessarily for anyone else, but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

I do hope that made sense.

I can see it.  Personally, when I'm ready to settle down, I won't "actively" look for someone younger, but it certainly isn't something that would bother me.  Heck, I'd almost prefer someone 5 years younger. 

The only problem is a girl with daddy issues.  I certainly don't wanna be some quasi-daddy replacement figure in my SO's life, but in a romantic sense.  Which is about the only thing weird about really really young girls dating much older men.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 20 Jun 2013, 07:11
I have a 20 year old friend who is currently dating a 47 year old.
And it's ao super weird, the guy is almost as old as my mum, and she is as old as my little sister.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Jun 2013, 07:30
Stop shirttail-shaming Jim already!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 20 Jun 2013, 07:32
Do we have a biological preconception about age differences?  It hasn't been that long since older men marrying younger women was considered the natural order of things in most of the western world.
Not just the Western world either, it was pretty universal, and to a considerable extent still is. Men's fertility can continue to a much greater age than women's, and tends to tail off more gradually.

I would say that if Jim needs to ask about his soul-patch, he should shave it off; facial hair should be carried with confidence. I'm not a fan of men leaving "tailed" shirts untucked because I think it looks scruffy too, but if Jim is a bit of a dag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dag_(subculture)), and that how he rolls, so be it. He did smarten up for his date with Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1953), though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 20 Jun 2013, 07:42
I have a 20 year old friend who is currently dating a 47 year old.

I have a twenty-* old friend and I have no idea on her relationship status towards that one former teacher of hers. The only thing I know is that they had not had sex last time we spoke about it, and I am almost sure they don't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 20 Jun 2013, 08:45
I'm so pleased to see Jim back because I see him as a potential good fit for Dora (an aside, I prefer the squarer jaw, less poofy hair and the age lines Jeph gave him back in his earlier appearances, he's got a touch of 'Marten's Youthful Uncle' about him now). I still have hopes for these two in the future and I'm sneakily hoping that his disappointment will stir some 'what if...' feelings in Dora. They only had one date and now a quasi-professional relationship so I'm stretching my expectations but to hell with it, I want it to happen.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: nosaJay19 on 20 Jun 2013, 09:44
Oh, Dora crossed he heart in panel four. I took a moment for me to see it.

That's cute.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 20 Jun 2013, 11:11
And does anyone know what happened to the list of links on the comic homepage?  They're still listed in the sourcecode (yeah, I checked) but I don't see them in any browser (no, I haven't checked them all... just firefox and IE)

Their removal was part of dealing with the fake malware warnings issue earlier in the week; they will go back when Jeph and the server admin consider it safe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 20 Jun 2013, 11:53
Henry also likes to leave his shirt dangling outside his pants (e,g, in no 2380). Looks wierd to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jun 2013, 13:50
And does anyone know what happened to the list of links on the comic homepage?  They're still listed in the sourcecode (yeah, I checked) but I don't see them in any browser (no, I haven't checked them all... just firefox and IE)

Their removal was part of dealing with the fake malware warnings issue earlier in the week; they will go back when Jeph and the server admin consider it safe.

Thanks!  Missed that, earlier I guess.  Although I just got one today... so the links probably aren't the problem. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 20 Jun 2013, 15:26
You know the Mirror Universe rule about Goatees
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Jun 2013, 15:52
Yes, I can just imagine Evil Mirror Marten and his goatee.

And Evil Mirror Hannelore in her leather catsuit.

I do not want to imagine Evil Mirror Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 20 Jun 2013, 16:03
I'm thinking Evil Mirror Pintsize would be an inversion of the trope.

And, why did I read that as "Goatses" at first?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Jun 2013, 17:19
Marten can't grow a decent goatee, according to comic 560.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 20 Jun 2013, 18:30
The Marten of our universe can't grow a beard, yes, which is why the mirror Marten should have no trouble.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Jun 2013, 18:31
And Evil Mirror Hannelore in her leather catsuit.
I was going to make a joke about how hot that would be, but then I had the thought that if Evil Mirror Hannelore were the opposite of regular Hannelore in every way, she'd probably have severe hygiene issues.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jun 2013, 18:50
Soo... hot, sweaty and smelly. 


Like Dora's old leather pants...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 20 Jun 2013, 19:27
And Evil Mirror Hannelore in her leather catsuit.

C'mon guys, I can't be the only one to think of this:

(http://i.imgur.com/avznKyE.png)

By the way:
And, why did I read that as "Goatses" at first?
Me too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 20 Jun 2013, 19:36
I like how me putting black frames around my reaction pics has gotten other people to do that when making them too.

Tidy, yo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 20 Jun 2013, 19:39
yep, I got the idea from you. It really looks tidier.

Also I'm getting better at removing speech bubbles…
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 20 Jun 2013, 20:27
And does anyone know what happened to the list of links on the comic homepage?  They're still listed in the sourcecode (yeah, I checked) but I don't see them in any browser (no, I haven't checked them all... just firefox and IE)
Their removal was part of dealing with the fake malware warnings issue earlier in the week; they will go back when Jeph and the server admin consider it safe.
Thanks!  Missed that, earlier I guess.  Although I just got one today... so the links probably aren't the problem.
The comic and other links are gone while the false malware reading is troubleshot.
I feel so unread...

Actually, I have noticed that the length of my posts is inversely proportional to the likelihood that they will be responded to, despite their length usually being due to several topics, at least one of which I would expect to arouse response. I wonder why that is?

I'm thinking Evil Mirror Pintsize would be an inversion of the trope.

And, why did I read that as "Goatses" at first?
Weird, I did too. Maybe it's the font?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jun 2013, 21:58
Sorry, I checked back much later and saw both your post and Paul's, but Paul's was handier to respond to. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 20 Jun 2013, 23:30
Sorry, I checked back much later and saw both your post and Paul's, but Paul's was handier to respond to.
Heh, no worries. I suspect that big posts are just daunting, so they get skimmed over.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Jun 2013, 23:33
Disappearing lipstick, panel 3. 


Sorry, just kinda jumped out at me. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 20 Jun 2013, 23:39
There are lots of things that would be improved by being limited to being tasteful and under 20 seconds.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 20 Jun 2013, 23:49
There are lots of things that would be improved by being limited to being tasteful and under 20 seconds.
Are you talking about realistic things like commercials or unrealistic things like commercial jet travel?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 21 Jun 2013, 00:00
Select some appropriate music?

Uhm...

I JUST HAD SEEEEEEEEEXX...
AND IT FEELLT SO GOOOOOOD...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 21 Jun 2013, 00:27
C'mon guys, I can't be the only one to think of this:
Hannerscar? Whom the forum decided had an Australian accent. I blame the Mad Max movies.

I might not have noticed the lipstick. Now I can't not. Thanks Carl!  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Jun 2013, 00:35
There are lots of things that would be improved by being limited to being tasteful and under 20 seconds.
Are you talking about realistic things like commercials or unrealistic things like commercial jet travel?

Oh dear, now you've got me started on unrealistic hopes.

Quote from: Akima
Hannerscar? Whom the forum decided had an Australian accent. I blame the Mad Max movies.

It might have been that she was wielding a knife that could have come out of Crocodile Dundee's boot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: muon on 21 Jun 2013, 03:13
It's not the sole patch Jim - it's because you look like Littlefinger.

You know the Mirror Universe rule about Goatees

So does that make Jim doubly evil Littlefinger, or does it mean that somewhere in a mirror universe there's a good Littlefinger?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LordVaughn on 21 Jun 2013, 03:56
As for the poll, wouldn't Hanners be more likely to use her parents' influence to get a laser for the cake, as cutting it would be a lot less messy that way, provided she doesn't have a cake laser already?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Jun 2013, 04:20
It's not the sole patch Jim - it's because you look like Littlefinger.

You know the Mirror Universe rule about Goatees

So does that make Jim doubly evil Littlefinger, or does it mean that somewhere in a mirror universe there's a good Littlefinger?

Just so long as in that mirror image universe Tyrion is still cool we're good.  Although I'm having trouble with Tomboy Sansa and Pretty Princess Arya....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Jun 2013, 05:23
No, in the mirror universe Sansa is still a pretty princess - just a very vicious and competent one. Cersei becomes the naive, trusting one.

And in another alternate universe, Tyrion and Hodor have teamed up to become MasterBlaster.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 21 Jun 2013, 06:05
And in the a really odd alternate universe - George RR Martin is a prolific writer turning out several novels where the main and beloved characters never seem to die off per year
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Jun 2013, 07:43
Linds (a regular poster on the boards) got married! What would the QC cast do at her wedding?

Pintsize: Butts.    6 (8.1%)
Marigold: Play DS and do the wallflower.    4 (5.4%)
Faye and Angus: Dance and sloppy makeouts!    0 (0%)
Tai: DJ'ing, of course.    10 (13.5%)
Dora: Coffee for the DJ booth!    0 (0%)
Marten: Bad dancing and moping afterwards.    5 (6.8%)
Claire: Non-consensual snuggles and brandy taste tests.    4 (5.4%)
Hannelore: sweeping up all the rice and sterilizing the knife for the cake.    7 (9.5%)
Momo: Making sure there was something old, something new, etc.    2 (2.7%)
She'd suggest a 5-yen piece in the shoe instead, however.    0 (0%)
Space Ham with Waffle Fries as the main course!    9 (12.2%)
Who cares? CONGRATS LINDS!    27 (36.5%)

Total Members Voted: 74
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Jun 2013, 10:06
Cutting a cake with a laser might produce carbon dioxide and contribute to global warming! A waterjet cutter might be better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Jun 2013, 10:17
As for the poll, wouldn't Hanners be more likely to use her parents' influence to get a laser for the cake, as cutting it would be a lot less messy that way, provided she doesn't have a cake laser already?
Depending on what type of laser it is, it might be a lot messier than cutting the cake with a knife. To cut the cake effectively you would need a high-power laser with a very narrow collimated beam (or a beam with a very broad* focus), because you're cutting a cake that is at least (random guess) ~6 inches thick, versus the <1 inch-thick steel a cutting laser would normally be used for. You'd probably want something like a pulsed Nd:YAG laser rather than a more typical CO2 laser, because who wants a burned piece of cake? Then there's the issue of what's behind the cake. You'd probably want something very sturdy behind the cake that can take a very intense laser pulse without getting a hole shot through it.

Of course I'm not particularly familiar with the type of industrial cutting lasers that are available. Perhaps Million Dollar Belt Sander will have some more insight.

*edit - "broad" probably isn't the right word here. I mean a focus with a long Rayleigh range (i.e. a narrow beam waist but one that is narrow for a long distance along the beam propagation axis).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 21 Jun 2013, 11:32
Cutting a cake with a laser might produce carbon dioxide and contribute to global warming! A waterjet cutter might be better.

I'm having difficulty imagining a waterjet cutter that won't turn a typical cake into cake chunks, spread all over the guests, the walls, the floor etc. Hanners would NOT enjoy the mess. The guests probably wouldn't either.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 21 Jun 2013, 14:30
Just so long as she doesn't do a Safety Dance  :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Jun 2013, 15:02
Hey! She can dance if she wants to!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Jun 2013, 15:19
She can leave her friends behind.
'Cause her friends don't dance... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2052)


Weird fact: The lead singer for Men Without Hats bore an astonishing resemblence to an old friend of mine. Right down to the Robin Hood garb.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 21 Jun 2013, 15:50
As for the poll, wouldn't Hanners be more likely to use her parents' influence to get a laser for the cake, as cutting it would be a lot less messy that way, provided she doesn't have a cake laser already?
Depending on what type of laser it is, it might be a lot messier than cutting the cake with a knife. To cut the cake effectively you would need a high-power laser with a very narrow collimated beam (or a beam with a very broad* focus), because you're cutting a cake that is at least (random guess) ~6 inches thick, versus the <1 inch-thick steel a cutting laser would normally be used for. You'd probably want something like a pulsed Nd:YAG laser rather than a more typical CO2 laser, because who wants a burned piece of cake? Then there's the issue of what's behind the cake. You'd probably want something very sturdy behind the cake that can take a very intense laser pulse without getting a hole shot through it.

Narrow-beam, short-length (shorter than usual, that is) lightsaber. You could hold it horizontally and cut down through the cake without having to worry about anyone standing behind the cake, since it stops at a certain point. (As long as they're not standing too closely behind the cake.) I'm sure all the best post-Empire cookware shops carry them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 21 Jun 2013, 15:57
Would not the moisture in the cake flash into steam, 'sploding the cake all over the room?

(My favorite quote from one of the "Science" channel shows about the science, or something, of Star Wars was that the most practical way to use a lightsaber as a weapon would be to mail it to your enemy with a note saying, "Turn this on.")
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 21 Jun 2013, 16:58
Ultimate lightsaber: tonfa-style handle with two variable blades, one at each end of the long section and fingertip controls for the blades in the side handle. Then, when the thing inevitably breaks down due to its monstrous complexity, at least you still have a metal tonfa you can beat people to death with…
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 21 Jun 2013, 18:40
There are books with diagrams of lightsabers and justifications for their operability and construction (as well as a good chunk of the ships and craft of the movies.) It basically boils down to plasma in a magnetic bottle that also traps the heat (somehow). Still doesn't explain how Liam Neeson stood next to a melting door without worry- probably different physics or the Force or something.

Also, they look cool.

I'm sure all the best post-Empire cookware shops carry them.
Only as novelties; any real chef sticks with tried and true vibroblades.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: blacksinow on 21 Jun 2013, 19:15
Jeph, I agree with you and this is why. Tai sounds as though she would do well with Selphie's victory dance from Final Fantasy 8 in conjunction with Victory Fanfare from final fantasy 8.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 21 Jun 2013, 19:41
Would not the moisture in the cake flash into steam, 'sploding the cake all over the room?
Probably, but that could be fun too.  8-)

(My favorite quote from one of the "Science" channel shows about the science, or something, of Star Wars was that the most practical way to use a lightsaber as a weapon would be to mail it to your enemy with a note saying, "Turn this on.")
Hahaha! Love it.  :-D

It's probably pretty accurate, too.

Also, they look cool.
Best justification I've ever heard for them.

I'm sure all the best post-Empire cookware shops carry them.
Only as novelties; any real chef sticks with tried and true vibroblades.
Ah, yes, the classics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Jun 2013, 19:53
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mi70y.jpg)

Edit-I didn't even notice the lipstick.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 21 Jun 2013, 22:42
also - very matching earrings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 22 Jun 2013, 00:11
Cutting a cake with a laser might produce carbon dioxide and contribute to global warming! A waterjet cutter might be better.

I'm having difficulty imagining a waterjet cutter that won't turn a typical cake into cake chunks, spread all over the guests, the walls, the floor etc. Hanners would NOT enjoy the mess. The guests probably wouldn't either.

http://youtu.be/k7EDK5ltYwk

It apparently exists,  but that might stretch your definition of "cake"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 22 Jun 2013, 02:07
It does look like the kind of cake that'd get served up on sci-fi spaceships, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 22 Jun 2013, 04:04
Spathe cake, then? To be served up after the spathe ham?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 22 Jun 2013, 13:30
I want to see Jim+daughter hanging out at some place alone, talking about why Daddy is drinking.

Suddenly, spiders begin to crawl up Jim's legs...

Meh.  If he's raising a daughter by himself, that means he's seen some Pretty Heavy Stuff (I forget his particular backstory if its been revealed).  Either a wife who died, a wife so dysfunctional he was awarded custody, or one who simply had no interest in parenting.  The upshot is its very unlikely that the sight of this girl he dated once will cause him to spin into depression.  When you are 25, that kind of thing is a big deal.  When you are 35-40, not so much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Jun 2013, 13:40
He's divorced, and had a fairly incompetent lawyer, but that's all I remember.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 22 Jun 2013, 14:35
I forget his particular backstory if its been revealed.

 He had a (rough) divorce more than a year ago, and had to fire his lawyer ; but now he gets along with his ex:
 (http://i.imgur.com/AsT9KMa.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/mM2savx.jpg)

 They share custody over Sam,
 (http://i.imgur.com/oidObh6.jpg)

 And i guess that's all you need to know  :-) .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jun 2013, 14:37
I respect your archive-fu.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 22 Jun 2013, 18:56
The fu is strong in this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 22 Jun 2013, 18:57
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2mi70y.jpg)

Edit-I didn't even notice the lipstick.

Well done Grasshopper.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 22 Jun 2013, 20:37
I forget his particular backstory if its been revealed.
He had a (rough) divorce more than a year ago, and had to fire his lawyer ; but now he gets along with his ex:
 They share custody over Sam,
 And i guess that's all you need to know  :-) .
That sort of goes to my original point.  Not quite as bad as some of the scenarios, but if he's watching his ex-wife in a new relationship, I doubt seeing this girl he dated once with somebody else is that much of a heart-stomping experience.  Probably somewhere between "Dang! They're out of BBQ Corn Nuts!" and "Dang! They Canceled Pushing Daisies/Sarah Connor Chronicles!" with a little bit of "I can't catch a break!"
I will say that usually romantic interests don't get to meet the kids until things are serious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Jun 2013, 21:23
I will say that usually romantic interests don't get to meet the kids until things are serious.

Are you talking about Dora meeting Sam, or Jim meeting Tai?   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 22 Jun 2013, 21:26
I was actually really beat up about them canceling Pushing Daisies.  o_O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 23 Jun 2013, 19:28
I was actually really beat up about them canceling Pushing Daisies.  o_O

What, a smart, zany comedy that isn't about folks sitting around their apartments together?  I'm amazed it made it two seasons.
Don't worry, Wife Swap and The Bachelor(ette) are still going strong.  *eyes bulge in frustration*

However.  Are you aware of Wonderfalls?  It has a similar vibe.  Same writer I believe.  It also didn't run long.  But its absolutely worth watching.  The writer even tied it up in a nice bow when he found out it was being cancelled. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8_bmzRhfag
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Jun 2013, 11:20
And in the a really odd alternate universe - George RR Martin is a prolific writer turning out several novels where the main and beloved characters never seem to die off per year

And also has a website (http://www.georgerrmartin.com/) which is not terrible (http://grrm.livejournal.com/).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Jun 2013, 11:32
 But George RR Martin DOESN'T kill people anymore. He just pretends to and then they're fine next chapter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Jun 2013, 12:42
Hey, I wouldn't call them fine, exactly. It's reaching the point where pretty much everyone in the whole series who isn't dead would be less miserable if they were. It's a whole new genre: Epic Fantasy Misery Porn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 24 Jun 2013, 13:48
If you ask me, Pillars Of Earth had the same already, minus the Fantasy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jun 2013, 14:41
The ending of Song of Ice and Fire:
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 24 Jun 2013, 14:51
The ending of Song of Ice and Fire:
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Jun 2013, 14:56
I had my own vision of the ending:

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2470-2474 (17-21 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Jun 2013, 15:21
But George RR Martin DOESN'T kill people anymore. He just pretends to and then they're fine next chapter.

Actually, he has an ulterior motive... (http://www.dorktower.com/2013/06/19/revenge-of-the-nerd-dork-tower-19-06-13/)