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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #150 on: 30 Apr 2008, 10:15 »

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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #151 on: 30 Apr 2008, 10:25 »

That is what is wrong with being rocky
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #152 on: 30 Apr 2008, 10:28 »

Sounds like KharBevNor is, given his tastes and attitude.

Historically, black people in the US have developed a partially separate culture than whites due to the way they were treated.  This culture has obviously affected their musical style, including what aspects of the music are responsible for the music's emotional impact (any separation in culture can affect this).  Naturally, approaching and interpreting hip-hop by comparing it to how British industrial artists make their music effective is misguided.

Again, it's like expecting "guitar riffs" in classical music.  You said "classical has riffs", and that goes with my point: what makes "riffs" inherently a good thing?  They just happened to be part of the music you grew up with and are therefore familiar to you.  And why do "riffs" overtake "guitar" in importance?  There are plenty of young rockers who only enjoy distorted guitar music, so that guitars have become a part of the standards in which they approach music.  And we can all see that if they approach classical with the notion of guitars being the main effective form of musical technique, and then reject it based on those grounds, seemingly ignorant that classical is not based on distorted guitar, it would be kind of silly.  Why not the same for hip-hop and riffs (and similar such standards)?

Man, look, I get it. All you're saying is that black people are inherently inferior in regards to making music. That's your opinion, I guess, but we don't really need it here.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #153 on: 30 Apr 2008, 13:33 »

I love classical.

What the hell is going on here?

What music do you like made by black people?
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #154 on: 30 Apr 2008, 13:51 »

You know, black people can write Classical music too
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #155 on: 30 Apr 2008, 14:13 »

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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #156 on: 30 Apr 2008, 15:20 »

Oh man, you guys are totally missing the point of hip hop by suggesting all these actually decent rappers like Aesop/ Mos Def/ etc. whatever.  The point of hip hop is that it's fucking hilarious.  Please listen to the lyrics in this Diplomats song and if you don't pee your pants from lauging then you take yourself too seriously and we can't be friends.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=rzzO9tdgMtM.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #157 on: 30 Apr 2008, 15:21 »

aaaaah, shit.  and by lauging i mean laughing.  dammit.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #158 on: 30 Apr 2008, 15:33 »

Oh man, you guys are totally missing the point of hip hop by suggesting all these actually decent rappers like Aesop/ Mos Def/ etc. whatever.  The point of hip hop is that it's fucking hilarious.  Please listen to the lyrics in this Diplomats song and if you don't pee your pants from lauging then you take yourself too seriously and we can't be friends.  http://youtube.com/watch?v=rzzO9tdgMtM.
All that song did was piss me off so I guess we can't be friends :-[

Good rap from Holland:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=axIlMDj_Mls
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #159 on: 30 Apr 2008, 16:16 »

What music do you like made by black people?

Scientist, King Tubby, Keith Hudson, The Aggrovators, The Specials, X-Ray Spex, Dizzee Rascal, Thin Lizzy, Skindred, JME, Znowhite, The Skatalites, Desmond Dekker, Bad Brains, Dub War, Parliament, Lee Perry, Jimmy Hendrix...what was your point again?
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #161 on: 30 Apr 2008, 16:29 »

I should have caught that. I have this Finnish mate named after him and it's kind of hilarious because a)he is about as far from Jimi Hendrix as you could possibly be and still be human and b) he pronounces it 'yimmy'.

But seriously man it's after midnight, don't be a douche.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #162 on: 30 Apr 2008, 16:36 »

Most people I start out on hip-hop take to OutKast right away.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #163 on: 30 Apr 2008, 16:45 »

I should have caught that. I have this Finnish mate named after him and it's kind of hilarious because a)he is about as far from Jimi Hendrix as you could possibly be and still be human and b) he pronounces it 'yimmy'.

hee. I love my Finn genes.

But seriously man it's after midnight, don't be a douche.

Time zones, dude.  It's like 7 45 here.  Besides, I call shenanigans on your excuse.

But I digress.  Thread continue.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #164 on: 30 Apr 2008, 17:04 »

Deltron 3030
(Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, Kid Koala, Dan The Automator)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf5yOqEp9OY

Really fun hip hop album that doesn't take itself too seriously.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #165 on: 01 May 2008, 05:33 »

What music do you like made by black people?

Scientist, King Tubby, Keith Hudson, The Aggrovators, The Specials, X-Ray Spex, Dizzee Rascal, Thin Lizzy, Skindred, JME, Znowhite, The Skatalites, Desmond Dekker, Bad Brains, Dub War, Parliament, Lee Perry, Jimmy Hendrix...what was your point again?

<sarcasm> B...but that's not black music, that's white music made by black people. </sarcasm>

Speaking of hilariously terrible hip-hip: Chuggo: "Ahh C'mon Fuck a Guy" (Not Safe for Work lyrics)
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #166 on: 01 May 2008, 06:00 »

Try the Hill top Hoods, it may just be that they hail from my home town, but they're quite good in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQE-790aGFo (the album version of the same song is better)
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #167 on: 01 May 2008, 06:53 »

I love how this thread has brought people to the forums; not to read whole threads before responding, not to figure out how to use edit buttons rather than double posting, to blatantly insult everyone, to throw the word "racist" around, et cetera et cetera.

THESE AR SUM QUAL'TY PEEPLE COMIN TO THIS HEER FORUM.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #168 on: 01 May 2008, 08:44 »

Dang, I want in on the racism accusations!

If you don't like this, you hate brown people.

You don't.... hate brown people... do you?
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #169 on: 01 May 2008, 15:10 »

<sarcasm> B...but that's not black music, that's white music made by black people. </sarcasm>

This is white music?]
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #170 on: 02 May 2008, 06:59 »

Sure, man!  Jamaican dub is whiter than Andy Griffith eating a mayonnaise sandwich with the crust cut off.  :laugh:
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #171 on: 27 May 2008, 09:16 »

Citizen Cope doesn't really use repetitive beats that I can recall, but he's barely Hip-Hop. He's kind of hard to pin down into one genre at all though.

If you like Mark Ronson's stuff, I've got a hilarious version of him doing Toxic with ODB rapping over it which is worth listening to just for the entertainment value.

And of course, there's Wipe Out 2000 by Steve Vai. I have no clue who's rapping on that song, though.

I'll upload these when I get home.

I'd suggest Talib Kweli's "Eardrum" and second Black Star's self-titled, but those two albums sound like normal hip-hop/rap and therefore, as good as they are, you probably will have a hard time appreciating them.

I get where you're coming from, though. I used to say that the only genre I didn't like any songs from was metal. Any metal. Then I found Rob Zombie, but the only reason I like him is because some of his stuff is danceable and well, I'm a dancer. Sometimes the things that make a genre what it is just don't appeal to you.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #172 on: 27 May 2008, 10:27 »

Well I didnt have time to read the entire thread soo here goes...
Some of these are good for hip hop begginers - others are just sick (opinion)

Jurassic 5 - power in numbers
Eyedea and abilites - self titled
gnarles barkely - self titled
gorrilaz - demon dayz
outkast - any album (mainstream)
aesop rock - labor days
Living Legends - Self titled

ooo and and indie rock / hip hop band called Why?
well there it is for ya (if your still even on this kick) :-)
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #173 on: 27 May 2008, 10:29 »

Erm, hasn't Khar already said 'give up, this isn't working'?
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #174 on: 27 May 2008, 13:45 »

Erm, hasn't Khar already said 'give up, this isn't working'?

guess so...  like i said i did not have time to read the entire thread..
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #175 on: 27 May 2008, 22:33 »

If I was Est or Jeph or whatnot, I would totally be banning the next fucking person to say "I didn't have time to read the entire thread'.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #176 on: 27 May 2008, 22:39 »

I didn't have time to read the entire thread.


...Sorry, guys.
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« Reply #177 on: 28 May 2008, 09:15 »

Marry me.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #178 on: 28 May 2008, 11:04 »

To be fair, I don't have time to read page after page of you dismissing music that doesn't involve white dudes singing about paganism.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #179 on: 28 May 2008, 11:05 »

Yes because that is the only thing I ever listen to.


(Sometimes it is white ladies!)
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #180 on: 29 May 2008, 13:31 »

I think most rap/hip hop is utterly tasteless shit, but there are a few good bands in this genre.
Asheru
Rage Against The Machine
Afroman
Gorillaz (not really hip hop but there is rapping in it)

There are most likely others out there that are just as good as these, these are the only ones I could think of off the top of my head.

On a different note:
The Beastie Boys are just plain awful.
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« Reply #181 on: 29 May 2008, 14:35 »

I think most rap/hip hop is utterly tasteless shit.
On a different note:
The Beastie Boys are just plain awful.

You've failed on three levels. The first two were quoted.

The third one was again, not reading the goddamn thread.
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« Reply #182 on: 29 May 2008, 16:00 »

I don't see why anything pre-Hello Nasty Beastie Boys is bad. methinks you need to listen to Paul's Boutique, as this thread has already suggested.
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Re: Make me like hip-hop music.
« Reply #183 on: 29 May 2008, 23:01 »

Let's add RATM to that list of fail.

Let's not!
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« Reply #184 on: 30 May 2008, 00:32 »

Spluff has the right idea - RATM are one of the better examples of rap-meets-rock. Until you hit slam death metal.
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« Reply #185 on: 30 May 2008, 07:59 »

Marry me.

You say that a lot, don't you?
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« Reply #186 on: 30 May 2008, 09:08 »

slam death metal.

... Do I want to know or is it horrible?
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« Reply #187 on: 30 May 2008, 12:15 »

I don't see why anything pre-Hello Nasty Beastie Boys is bad. methinks you need to listen to Paul's Boutique, as this thread has already suggested.

Who are you talking to here? Because if it's me, I suggest you're another person who's not getting what I was saying at all.

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« Reply #188 on: 30 May 2008, 12:47 »

slam death metal.

... Do I want to know or is it horrible?

No you don't and yes it is.
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« Reply #190 on: 30 May 2008, 14:06 »

Congratulations, you clearly know fuck all about the music in question.

Not least because we're talking about hip-hop and rap, not r'n'b. Well done.
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« Reply #191 on: 30 May 2008, 14:06 »

I don't see why anything pre-Hello Nasty Beastie Boys is bad. methinks you need to listen to Paul's Boutique, as this thread has already suggested.

Who are you talking to here? Because if it's me, I suggest you're another person who's not getting what I was saying at all.

no sir, it was to itsrabid who said that the beastie boys are just plain awful.
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« Reply #192 on: 30 May 2008, 15:49 »

Actually I had a good laugh at that image.
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« Reply #193 on: 30 May 2008, 16:28 »

Congratulations, you clearly know fuck all about the music in question.

Not least because we're talking about hip-hop and rap, not r'n'b. Well done.

What the image is describing is hip-hop and rap, Microsoft just clearly doesn't know what it's talking about.  Although the image clearly has a few flaws mainly it doesn't have a subject of "money" or "how awesome I am" It's pretty great.  But I'm sure the next version of Microsoft Hit Wizard will be updated so that it doesn't offend you so much.
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« Reply #194 on: 30 May 2008, 16:49 »

Congratulations, captain ignorant.

And Johnny, I would laugh at such an image... if I had an impression of it being posted ironically. Irony is the key to success!

I wish I listened to the people on this forum prattling about indie bands that no-one else cares about so I could insult some of them...

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« Reply #195 on: 30 May 2008, 17:40 »

... Do I want to know or is it horrible?

Yes you do and it's fantastic.
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« Reply #196 on: 30 May 2008, 18:59 »

What the heck does slam death metal have to do with rap? I didn't think dying fetus were particularly rappy.
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« Reply #197 on: 30 May 2008, 19:39 »

Slam death metal has rap influence. Apparently.
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