Topic: WCT: February 16-20, 2009 (Read 57181 times)

ironi · « **Reply #100 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 12:32 »

If I was Faye I would NOT go home. The last thing I would want to see right now would be Dora and Marten being cute. I say she heads to either Hanner's apartment or a bar. Or maybe, if she finds that Hannelore is still out with Marten, she walks to Penny's or Raven's. Anything to avoid going home, really.

darknight0dc · « **Reply #101 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 12:52 »

this really makes me curious about wether Angus will make an appearance....
i think that Faye feels very rejected, and might want to rebound with someone who makes her feel desired ie: angus.

Jimor · « **Reply #102 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 12:59 »

Quote from: ironi on 17 Feb 2009, 12:32

If I was Faye I would NOT go home. The last thing I would want to see right now would be Dora and Marten being cute. I say she heads to either Hanner's apartment or a bar. Or maybe, if she finds that Hannelore is still out with Marten, she walks to Penny's or Raven's. Anything to avoid going home, really.

She knows Dora's still at work since she let Faye leave early, so this would be the time to catch Marten without her around, assuming this is what Faye wants to do. Even if this isn't her intention, we're still going to have lost puppy syndrome here.

What I "fear" though is another one of those "I don't know why I jerked the steering wheel to the left" moments, but I don't think Jeph wants this to get THAT dark right now. The situation as character study is more than enough going on right now.

wargrafix · « **Reply #103 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 13:22 »

perhaps she shall follow in the footsteps of her father? Wait, that led to suicide, didn't it?

Blackcat Moebius · « **Reply #104 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 13:47 »

I just realized the way the first panel's worded.... Sven specifically called Faye and asked her to come over, didn't he?
Am I dense for not noticing that?

and oh, new twitter post from Sven.

SexRaptor · « **Reply #105 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 14:00 »

Quote from: Jimor on 17 Feb 2009, 10:59

One thing to consider, I don't think the Marten/Hannelore subplot is an accident. Faye is probably on the way home to talk with Marten, or at least to gain strength from his dependable presence even if she doesn't tell him, but she's going to find an empty apartment (well, Pintsize is there, and perhaps is about to create the most monumental example of his performance art ever). Nothing to ratchet up the sadness like having nobody to turn to. I don't think Dora is the shoulder Faye wants right now.

Definitely my thoughts as well.

Just as well, seeing how Faye responds with no one to lean on will tell me if she's the same girl from the first thirty strips or has finally evolved a little.

The Joker · « **Reply #106 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 14:41 »

Quote from: Kugai on 17 Feb 2009, 12:20

Looking at it again, I can see that Sven would have rather taken the beating rather than what Faye did - Just walk out.

It's like how when you were a kid and you did something wrong, and your parents were just "disappointed" rather than angry, that was about a thousand times worse.

lisavilisa · « **Reply #107 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 14:47 »

Quote from: Blackcat Moebius on 17 Feb 2009, 13:47

and oh, new twitter post from Sven.

What does "@_@" mean? I'm not up on these things.

Penquin47 · « **Reply #108 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 14:57 »

And Sven learns the truth of his own words:

"I... I didn't realize..."
"That the customers you treat like crap are actual people?"

Except with girls instead of customers.

Rocketman · « **Reply #109 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 15:01 »

Quote from: Penquin47 on 17 Feb 2009, 14:57

And Sven learns the truth of his own words:

"I... I didn't realize..."
"That the customers you treat like crap are actual people?"

Except with girls instead of customers.

And also that it's actually applicable to this situation instead of being a bunch of hooey.

michi-love · « **Reply #110 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 15:12 »

I haven't been paying as much attention to QC the past week and a half, for some reason. But I was like, oh, hey, I haven't checked it out today, *click*.

.....and then cue the utter sadness, seriously. I mean. For both Sven and Faye. I mean, they were so good for each other, even if they didn't act like it.
Sven's "Awesome." was so audible.
The disappointment leaped right off from Faye, so it wasn't just an "Oh, ouch for her," it was "Oh, God, that hurts."

...But that's just me, maybe.
I wonder how this is going to end up...

JReynolds · « **Reply #111 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 15:54 »

I know it's almost a month after the Burns 250th birthday bash, but this came to mind. The particularly relevant bit:

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O would some Power the gift to give us
To see ourselves as others see us!
It would from many a blunder free us...

I know from personal experience that I spend most of my time in a protective bubble of self-regard: I think I'm a generally good guy. I have my faults, I know, but overall I'm OK. Occasionally, I do something particularly stupid and someone calls me on it. The bubble bursts, and I see what a heel I can be.

It's a terrible thing to realize and get your nose rubbed in. It can help you grow as a human being, though.

Mr. Skawronska · « **Reply #112 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 16:23 »

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I agree. There is no way Faye will go to Dora right now...Dora hated this relationship from the beginning. She knew it was a bad idea and threatened Sven because of it. Faye won't want to go tell Dora that she was right. Faye will want to turn to Marten, the first person she opened up to since her father's suicide. Assuming she does go home, it's probable that marten won't be there as Jimor pointed out. She'll kick herself for passing Marten up and push away from Dora even more. There's going to be a spew of emotions on all character accounts here, real soon.

Stop it; I'm almost too drunk to drive and I'd need more alcohol for that. I'm thinking Bacardi 151 or some Mount Gay.

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this really makes me curious about wether Angus will make an appearance....
i think that Faye feels very rejected, and might want to rebound with someone who makes her feel desired ie: angus.

Oh, I hope so. She needs a one-night-stand she'll regret with a guy who adores her so she can treat him like shit too.

Hopefully I'll be sober again before THAT happens so I can restock the liquor cabinet. Woo hoo.

For the record...Glenlivet lives up to its "Smooth Smoky" reputation. Woo...

It's good.

It's amber.

It's smooooooooth.

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perhaps she shall follow in the footsteps of her father? Wait, that led to suicide, didn't it?

Yes, and that would suck. She hasn't suffered enough and her suicide would cheat me of my fun.

The ultimate Schadenfreude blue-balls.

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It's a terrible thing to realize and get your nose rubbed in. It can help you grow as a human being, though.

Just so it don't happen too much; Happens too much and you start to intentionally act like the heel everyone expects you to and suddenly you wake up one morning and don't like yourself anymore.

Some people wonder how they got that way.

I know how I got this way. The hard part is figuring out how to get back. Or even knowing if I want to.

Faye needs to burn some more. Maybe Jeph will set fire to her or something.

S

Norton Quintessential · « **Reply #113 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 16:30 »

Jesus Christ, Skawronska, give it a rest.

Hitch-Hiker · « **Reply #114 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 16:40 »

wow. Amazing comic. I rarely post here, but todays really merited a comment. I feel so sorry for both of them. Kudos Jeph. Lord knows what's going to happen next.

714 · « **Reply #115 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 18:19 »

i wonder if fay will tell anybody about...at least for now...i can see her wallowing in self-pity of course, but telling dora and martin would be awkward, raven would be...interesting, and i don't know how helpful hannelore would be...

Blackcat Moebius · « **Reply #116 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:27 »

New comic.

Sheer awesomeness.

That is all.

bhtooefr · « **Reply #117 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:30 »

Is that the college girl that asked Marten out, in the background?

PHeller · « **Reply #118 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:35 »

Holy crap where did all those people come from?

And why are they all walking by themselves? (with the exception of the red head girl and that dude)

Was this Jeph's excuse to make a whole bunch of facial expressions?

Shale · « **Reply #119 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:37 »

Not unless she suddenly de-aged by eight years. Although that would be hilarious.

Also, hooray for Faye taking it like a human being. Obviously this wasn't going to be a good day, but better profane invective than spiraling depression.

michi-love · « **Reply #120 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:39 »

Today's comic is the definition of awesome.
Just, totally.

Rachel_Grace · « **Reply #121 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 20:44 »

Last panel. The look on the little girl's face is amazing. Everyone else looks surprised or worried; she looks appalled.

wxdiva · « **Reply #122 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 21:01 »

At least she's letting it out now rather than taking it out on Marten or Dora later. Too bad it had to be in public but at least she's not running around with her underpants on her head while toting a bottle of Canadian Mist.

On a side note: Those signs represent 99% of my shopping experiences in the past few years. All that's missing is one that says "We're out of whatever you're looking for!"

appleshampooid · « **Reply #123 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 21:11 »

He would have been a much bigger asshole to not tell her and have her find out via the intern or someone else. I know she feels hurt, but it was clearly not monogamous from the beginning...I think she's overreacting a bit.

Shok Xone Studios · « **Reply #124 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 21:24 »

Given it's Faye we're talking about here, this is probably the healthiest attitude she could be expected to take.

All that could make this funnier, though, is if she just kept on walking, oblivious to the crowd frozen in shock around her.

Mojo · « **Reply #125 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 21:46 »

Well, she's ok, there was no visible vein popping out anywhere.

Again, this just shows me that she was more emotionally involved with Sven than she was letting on.

Lets face it, she was going to react in one of two ways. If she doesn't have any emotional involvement, and the relationship is just what she's been saying it is, she won't care about this beyond the physical. That is, she'd be annoyed but not angry, because he'd only be living down to her expectations. On the other hand, if she's more emotionally involved than she's let on, she's going to be hurt and angry because she'll feel cheated on. Since that's what we're seeing, I think my initial appraisal was valid.

kifsteve · « **Reply #126 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 21:50 »

Does that police officer look alot like Steve to anyone else?

weirdbeard · « **Reply #127 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 22:03 »

cue next week's comic where marten goes over to sven's house to tell him off.
Finds sven, feral beard, mumblin' about there being tequila monsters afoot.
oh tequila monster, its been too long.

i'm honestly not trying to push svaye, or fayen or whatever we're calling them now, but i do think there's an opportunity for some actual sven-character-reformation.
i get the impression that he's kindof shocked at this new sensation that is feeling guilty for sleeping with a second woman.

ironi · « **Reply #128 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 22:08 »

I do that ALL the time. Accidentally shouting expletives in public is really cathartic.

circa_90 · « **Reply #129 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 22:52 »

That police officer looks way too much like steve.

Kugai · « **Reply #130 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:05 »

Well . . . . I knew it had to come out sometime, but did it have to come out in the middle of the street?!

I love the expression on everyone's faces. Especially Faye's embarrassed look.
I wonder if Officer Steve will escort her ti CoD?

Love the Shop Signs.

hack · « **Reply #131 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:14 »

Quote from: Kugai on 17 Feb 2009, 23:05

Love the Shop Signs.

"bad art *AND* hemp clothing? honey, we HAVE to stop here!"

"not before we go to the 'Stuff You Don't Need' shop first, dear."

Malek · « **Reply #132 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:15 »

Poor faye.

Fuh this got funny and sad.

kgbisouttogetme · « **Reply #133 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:33 »

the guy with the beard rules. hes my favorite person to ever exist

714 · « **Reply #134 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:39 »

Quote from: no one special on 17 Feb 2009, 01:28

this is just an incredibly sad thing - and bravo Jeph for the evocative comic, and creating characters that people can really relate to and care about....

...and well, i feel bad for Sven too. It can be a difficult thing to learn that not being in control of your life can really f*** up people's lives sometimes.

i'm not kidding when i say i think jeph could've made a great psychologist, whatever (or whoever) these characters are doing, even if it does seem cliche at times (cliches come about from things that are said or happen so often), that they are very easy to relate to. If you ever read through the responses in the forum, there a great number that are simply, "i totally get that," "that happened to me," "i did that to someone," "someone did that to me," "i know exactly how he/she/it feels," etc etc...and its also evident that it effects us deeply because of how we sit here and analyze and care so much about fictional characters in a comic and then proceed to discuss it at great length...and i think that for someone to do that, theyd have to have a pretty good understanding of what people are like....i dont really know what the whole point of my stating that was, but i felt the need to say it haha.

and yeah i agree with that statement about sven...not that it excuses his behavior or anything, but even when you are a person who effs up so regularly that you dont seem to have any self-control you still feel guilty about hurting other people in the process unless youre completely heartless.

snubnose · « **Reply #135 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:47 »

Honestly, can you stop throwing predictions around what happends next ? Its really annoying to read. I think we can be perfectly sure that Jeff comes up with a good natural way to continue the story.

And no, these are obviously all random people.

Quote from: roxy255 on 17 Feb 2009, 09:34

if this were a romantic movie, sven would realize he fucked up the one good thing in his life, feel terrible, and hatch some scheme to express his devotion (publicly?) and win her back.
the sad thing is, I have been programmed (stupid fucking disney movies at a young impressionable age) to secretly root for this scenario. bleh.

Oh ?

There are Disney movies which have people that cheat on each other in it ?

And even older ones ? (depending upon how old you are)

Quote from: SavannahGirl on 17 Feb 2009, 10:51

Poor Faye,I think she was starting to like Sven for more than just a booty call. I hope he realizes that he has feeling for her too. (I hope he dose have feelings for her)

Sven is still a womanizer and playboy.

These people dont really have feelings for the opposite gender ... as those would collide with their lifestyle, therefore, even if such feelings come up, they are suppressed.

Unless he wants to change his lifestyle, he's not going to mutate into a good boyfriend.

And if Faye wants him back at all ... I know many people who wont.

Lost Coastlines · « **Reply #136 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 23:49 »

Quote from: Mr. Skawronska on 17 Feb 2009, 16:23

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I agree. There is no way Faye will go to Dora right now...Dora hated this relationship from the beginning. She knew it was a bad idea and threatened Sven because of it. Faye won't want to go tell Dora that she was right. Faye will want to turn to Marten, the first person she opened up to since her father's suicide. Assuming she does go home, it's probable that marten won't be there as Jimor pointed out. She'll kick herself for passing Marten up and push away from Dora even more. There's going to be a spew of emotions on all character accounts here, real soon.

Stop it; I'm almost too drunk to drive and I'd need more alcohol for that. I'm thinking Bacardi 151 or some Mount Gay.

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this really makes me curious about wether Angus will make an appearance....
i think that Faye feels very rejected, and might want to rebound with someone who makes her feel desired ie: angus.

Oh, I hope so. She needs a one-night-stand she'll regret with a guy who adores her so she can treat him like shit too.

Hopefully I'll be sober again before THAT happens so I can restock the liquor cabinet. Woo hoo.

For the record...Glenlivet lives up to its "Smooth Smoky" reputation. Woo...

It's good.

It's amber.

It's smooooooooth.

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perhaps she shall follow in the footsteps of her father? Wait, that led to suicide, didn't it?

Yes, and that would suck. She hasn't suffered enough and her suicide would cheat me of my fun.

The ultimate Schadenfreude blue-balls.

Quote
It's a terrible thing to realize and get your nose rubbed in. It can help you grow as a human being, though.

Just so it don't happen too much; Happens too much and you start to intentionally act like the heel everyone expects you to and suddenly you wake up one morning and don't like yourself anymore.

Some people wonder how they got that way.

I know how I got this way. The hard part is figuring out how to get back. Or even knowing if I want to.

Faye needs to burn some more. Maybe Jeph will set fire to her or something.

S

Dude, chill. Seriously. If the worst thing that's happened in your life is some chick leading you on, you've led a pretty charmed life. It's one thing to divert bitterness to a fictional character, but this kind of crap is completely overboard. This comic has dealt with some actual heavy issues, particularly using Faye, so it's going to attract followers (and posters) that have encountered similar situations in their own lives. The kind of stuff you post is not cool. Chill.

AnkhWL · « **Reply #137 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 00:41 »

She is soooo going to talked to by that cop. Considering he seems to be the only character who didn't appear in the previous frames. I think.

jeph · « **Reply #138 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 01:45 »

Quote from: 714 on 17 Feb 2009, 23:39

i'm not kidding when i say i think jeph could've made a great psychologist

AHHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA NO

Quote from: hack on 17 Feb 2009, 23:14

Quote from: Kugai on 17 Feb 2009, 23:05
Love the Shop Signs.

"bad art *AND* hemp clothing? honey, we HAVE to stop here!"

"not before we go to the 'Stuff You Don't Need' shop first, dear."

So, you've been to Northampton, then?

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #139 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 01:49 »

Another little touch of psychological realism is that delayed reaction. I've been through it -- ended the conversation with civility, even with the other person saying "you're too nice", and then soon after, never mind the details but I felt like Faye looked.

Beefylovelord · « **Reply #140 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 02:12 »

I don't think this is going to be the end of the sven/faye business. Sven seems too bothered by this, and faye seems to hurt to just let that be the end of it. They'll either talk and find some way to reconcile this and actually make a put a better definition on this, or they're going to talk it down and split.

Svens chance to actually attempt to salvage this, he already was honest with her, that counts a great deal toward his becoming a better person ( though some of it is thanks to his intern.

People changing overnight is a thing for the romantic comedys and whatnot. Svens made real progress toward parting from his own ways, but he is only human and he made a mistake, knowing full well he was fucked by the end. Now he can either slink back to his old ways or learn something and continue trying to change his lifestyle.

Its safe to say that old sven wouldn't have made it this far, or even been honest with her regardless of intern involvement.

Jeff7 · « **Reply #141 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 02:49 »

Sven and Dora both probably just sensed a great disturbance.

DoubleJ · « **Reply #142 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 04:13 »

... as if dozens of people suddenly wanted to cry out, "WTF was that?!" but were too freaked out to say anything.

JackFaerie · « **Reply #143 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 04:54 »

Quote from: snubnose on 17 Feb 2009, 23:47

Sven is still a womanizer and playboy.

These people dont really have feelings for the opposite gender ... as those would collide with their lifestyle, therefore, even if such feelings come up, they are suppressed.

Unless he wants to change his lifestyle, he's not going to mutate into a good boyfriend.

And if Faye wants him back at all ... I know many people who wont.

Uh, I think the Sven you're talking about ceased to exist quite a number of strips ago.

raoullefere · « **Reply #144 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 05:26 »

I see Jeph betrays his unfamiliarity with Southerners (U.S., that is) and our ways.
It should be: "Goddam fuckin' shit eatin' douchebag asshole!"

(Douchebag doesn't fit, but Faye has been up Nawth for a while.) The spit's a nice touch.
Next strip, were she in my town, the cop on the right have would hauled Faye away for , to quote Springsteen, "disturbin' the almighty peace."
If not, maybe Faye's going to go back to give Sven that clobbering which I agree with Kugai he wants.
Actually, though, the cussing is a good sign, to me. It indicates someone who suddenly realizes she doesn't deserve this kind of treatment. I think Faye picked Sven for a sex partner, consciously or unconsciously, because she knew something like this was coming, and it's what she 'deserved.' Which explains why Faye couldn't pair up with Marten, and why she kept beating him: Marten wasn't treating her 'correctly,' (ie. he was being nice, respectful, etc.) given the sort of undeserving person Faye felt herself to be.

Quote from: Kugai on 17 Feb 2009, 12:20

Looking at it again, I can see that Sven would have rather taken the beating rather than what Faye did - Just walk out.

Right now. I think he feels lower than a Cardassian Gunrunner.

Actually, the Cardassians, as a race, always seemed to me to be the smuggest, most self-satisfied smirking bastards ever to 'grace' a space opera. But maybe you mean from others' perspectives.

snubnose · « **Reply #145 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 06:08 »

Quote from: Beefylovelord on 18 Feb 2009, 02:12

People changing overnight is a thing for the romantic comedys and whatnot.

This aint no Hollywood movie, man, this is reality.

Or wait ...

DinosGoLauRAWR · « **Reply #146 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 06:40 »

I thought the police officer looked familiar, he does indeed look like Steve's more lanky brother.

Border Reiver · « **Reply #147 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 07:32 »

So now the question is, "How will the matter be resolved?"

Will:

a. Faye go back and let Sven have it, either verbally or physically;
b. Sven go to Faye and apologize;
c. Faye go to one of her friends for support;
d. Sven go to his friends for support;
e. Faye get a stern talking to by the nice constable for creating a disturbance;
f. Faye attempt to deal with what she'll see as a betrayal by a male that she cares about, withdraw further into a shell of sarcasm, cynicism and hurt feelings and start a true downward spiral accellerated by seeing the positive relationships of Dora/Marten, and Penny/Wil and visions of Gary the Pterodactyl;
g. Any combination of the above;
h. None of the above; or
i. Jeph do whatever he wants (it is his story after all, we're just along for the ride).

Thanks for producing this (and the forum) Mr. Jacques.

weirdbeard · « **Reply #148 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 07:33 »

Quote from: snubnose on 17 Feb 2009, 23:47

Honestly, can you stop throwing predictions around what happends next ? Its really annoying to read. I think we can be perfectly sure that Jeff comes up with a good natural way to continue the story.

...stop throwing around predictions? Hi, welcome to the WCT, have you been here before?

littlefox · « **Reply #149 on:** 18 Feb 2009, 09:20 »

Quote from: appleshampooid on 17 Feb 2009, 21:11

I know she feels hurt, but it was clearly not monogamous from the beginning...I think she's overreacting a bit.

It was monogamous -- it's just that it was a hook-up, not a relationship. Like practice dating for two people who are "not ready" or "not capable" of having real relationships due to their own psychological problems. So, no, they weren't going out to eat, or going to the movies, or holding hands, or doing anything that anyone in society would call "a date." I doubt people who saw the two of them together in public thought, "They're dating." But the sex was monogamous sex, which indicates that Sven is -- at least for a few months -- capable of being sexually monogamous.

Sven managed to stay true to Faye sexually for a surprisingly long time (OK, well it was surprising TO ME), considering that he's "such a man-whore" and all that. Also, Faye managed to stay in what was ALMOST a relationship for a pretty long time, considering her fears of getting close to other people. I think after a few months, both of them started getting their hopes up - "Hey, this isn't so bad, maybe I can actually handle this." Sven was the first one to blow it, but it could've just as easily been Faye. They've both got their issues. We know this.

Based on how shitty Sven feels, he may discover that he prefers monogamy. Not necessarily with Faye, just, in life. Clearly he's managed to keep up not sleeping around for a little while and it apparently hasn't been THAT bad. So ... who knows? I'm not about to root for the two of them to "get back together" because I'm not sure it's a good idea, but this "practice relationship" was probably a good idea for both of them to learn from. Maybe after this, they might be ready for real relationships with other people.

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