Topic: WCT: February 16-20, 2009 (Read 56984 times)

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #50 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:28 »

Jeph said once that he's not particularly good at facial expressions.

I disagree.

Shadic · « **Reply #51 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:28 »

Poor...

Well..

Everybody.

fifthfiend · « **Reply #52 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:31 »

Hmmmmmmmmm.

I wonder what Steve's up to right now?

chanonista · « **Reply #53 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:32 »

Today's comic may just be one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

lauren! · « **Reply #54 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:44 »

Oh! That's so sad...she looks so heartbroken...

kgbisouttogetme · « **Reply #55 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:47 »

D'awwww.....

Guido Sarducci · « **Reply #56 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:50 »

Quote from: fifthfiend on 16 Feb 2009, 22:31

Hmmmmmmmmm.

I wonder what Steve's up to right now?

My guess? Drinking the rest of the vodka.

Hammy · « **Reply #57 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 22:54 »

Jeph is actually VERY good at expressions, despite his own opinions. Marty's face yesterday and Faye's today make me want to go on a mass hugging spree!

kifsteve · « **Reply #58 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 23:06 »

Kugai · « **Reply #59 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 23:06 »

. . . . . . . . . . . . DAMN!! . . . . . . . . . . . .

Just .....

Damn!

What else CAN you say??!!!

Dora's gonna kill him!!

BekkahJane24 · « **Reply #60 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 23:23 »

I feel the need to change my avatar now...

"Faye Has Just Seen...."

"Her Heart Get Smooshed."

Well done, but, very sad. Even Sven knows she's affected by it due to lack of greivous bodily harm.

LunaCorn · « **Reply #61 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 23:25 »

!_!

Comparing her face in the first panel and then in the fourth is heartbreaking. She seems like she really was hoping that he missed her.

DinosGoLauRAWR · « **Reply #62 on:** 16 Feb 2009, 23:32 »

Quote from: DinosGoLauRAWR on 11 Feb 2009, 19:34

Does anyone get the feeling Faye may shock us all and end up being really hurt by svens actions rather than mad? I feel like shes going to end up showing some actual vulnerability.

Called it!

whoooo! whoo.....

Aw I made myself sad.

Thaes · « **Reply #63 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 00:09 »

...this strip made me too sad to appropriately comment it.

the_shankmaster · « **Reply #64 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 00:10 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 16 Feb 2009, 22:28

Jeph said once that he's not particularly good at facial expressions.

I disagree.

Well, him thinking he was bad at it then is probably why he's so good at it now. Yay for practice!

Oh, my heart.

snubnose · « **Reply #65 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 00:38 »

I am a bit surprised about Faye's reactions. Damn, people are sometimes so hard to understand.

Quote from: chanonista on 16 Feb 2009, 22:32

Today's comic may just be one of the saddest things I have ever seen.

Nah, sorry, nope, not at all. Not compared to yesterday's.

Yesterdays comic was super sad.

Todays comic, meh, an ill relationship ends. Or maybe not ? Maybe its just a major crisis and they'll find together again.

In EITHER case, both Sven and Faye seem to be able to start new relationships with other people, even if their relationship would really be at an end now.

I really feel a lot sadder for Hanners who might never have a relationship at all.

Masterbainter · « **Reply #66 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 00:56 »

Unfortunate for her so be all excited and let down like that. However, I'm extremely impressed how she handled it and really gives me a whole different opinion on the type of person she is.

no one special · « **Reply #67 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 01:28 »

SO much I want to say, but just can't put it together...

this is just an incredibly sad thing - and bravo Jeph for the evocative comic, and creating characters that people can really relate to and care about.

*sniff* poor Faye...

...and well, i feel bad for Sven too. It can be a difficult thing to learn that not being in control of your life can really f*** up people's lives sometimes.

TheReaper · « **Reply #68 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 02:31 »

I am pleased at Sven's suffering.
Poor Faye. Hopefully she'll find someone less slut-tastic.
But probably not.

That is all.

wormwood_pearl · « **Reply #69 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 02:45 »

This comic is so true to life. When people fuck up in a relationship, one reaction is to fear their other half's wrath. To the extent that they forget that they're actually invoking something worse: their SO's pain

Border Reiver · « **Reply #70 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 04:27 »

congradulations to Sven for owning up to his actions despite the consequences, and sympathies to Faye.

Blackcat Moebius · « **Reply #71 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 04:28 »

It was only on reread that I noticed Sven in panels 5 and 6 - going from 'I'm gonna die' to 'Is she killing me yet?'

and seconded/thirded/fourthed/whatever on the facial expressions. Who needs dialogue?

And now I have to Google Jeph's song selection.

jtheexploder · « **Reply #72 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 05:01 »

SAD
At least he told her...may this be because he genuinely cares about her?

yeah yeah if he cared about her he wouldn't have cheated but seriously...

GAW POOR FAYE. She looked so disappointed!

It made me want to cry.

Shaztastic · « **Reply #73 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 05:02 »

poor faye! I want to see what happens theres hours till the next comic lol i see lots of alcohol and tears in the near future of QC

Headwoünd · « **Reply #74 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 05:16 »

Very good strip, so full of nuances..
Faye pulling up her zipper again before leaving? --> :c

Cue the remorse, change of ways, forgiveness and reunion. Cue it, dammit! >:O

snubnose · « **Reply #75 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 05:56 »

Quote from: TheReaper on 17 Feb 2009, 02:31

I am pleased at Sven's suffering.

If he actually does suffer, then I'm not happy about it.

My problem with and objection about Sven is that he probably wont.

donutogre · « **Reply #76 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 06:03 »

I like that they didn't go with the obvious reaction of her having a screaming bitchout...that would have been too easy. This works much better (in terms of making the reader feel for Faye).

Whoever said that Dora is going to fucking rip him a new one has got that 100% right....I didn't even think of the Dora factor until now.

akronnick · « **Reply #77 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 06:10 »

I don't think she'll rip him a new one as much as she will shove the Malaysian battle spatula so far up the one he already has that he'll have to go to the dentist to get it extracted.

Tiney · « **Reply #78 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 07:10 »

Wow. That was good and sad. I liked it.

ViridianStar · « **Reply #79 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 08:21 »

Quote from: jtheexploder on 17 Feb 2009, 05:01

SAD
At least he told her...may this be because he genuinely cares about her?

yeah yeah if he cared about her he wouldn't have cheated but seriously...

GAW POOR FAYE. She looked so disappointed!

It made me want to cry.

I think the fact that she was too upset to muster the energy to even hit him was the most upsetting.

I think she had, in turn, started to genuinely care about him, maybe because what they are/were in can't be classified as a "relationship," so it doesn't put any pressure on her, emotionally.
Thing is, it doesn't on him, either, so...
:/
I'm thinking maybe she tries to hook up with Marten, on the rebound? (Only maybe, though...)
I hope everything turns out okay. Which is kind of sad, they aren't real

D · « **Reply #80 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 08:25 »

There is a pun to be made about Sven's shirt, I just can't decide what it should be. And as sad as this was, I'm glad that it happened because I've still never liked this couple.

Miche · « **Reply #81 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 08:55 »

I haven't posted since the Sven-Faye... well, it was before the hookup. Foreshadowing the hookup.

I'm wondering if Sven told her because he cares about her or just because his conscience of an intern made him feel like crap about keeping it from her.

Faye's reaction to Sven's infidelity is very telling. What's the point of beating sense into someone when you're no longer invested in him/her? Knowing her ways, there will probably be alcohol. It would be more worrisome if there wasn't. Someone already mentioned her being totally blasé, and if that's true I can see her telling Dora not to bother destroying Sven. And didn't she warn her about him? Rebound? Eh, doesn't seem likely, to me. After something like that, she probably feels too... anti-hookup to bother... hooking up with somebody. Unless she's drunk and stupid.

Which is entirely possible.

I'd hypothesize about Sven, but I have no frikkin' clue. Maybe affected by this, but brushes it off and goes on a string of blonde one-night-stands.

...

And then when nobody expects it...

Faye punches him in the nads!

Everybody wins.

Guido Sarducci · « **Reply #82 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 08:59 »

I tend to think he would have weasiled out of telling her and it would have bit him upon both cheeks. Remember The fight Marten and Dora got into over not being honest? I tend to think Marten would be drawn to the drama of busting Sven...

SuperSUGA · « **Reply #83 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 09:03 »

Good strip today, makes me eager for tomorrow!

What worries me is just how many people here are focusing on Dora or Faye getting violent with Sven. All (I think...) of the times we've seen violence between main characters in QC before it's been as part of a joke or as joking threats. This little arc doesn't strike me as one that's going to be crammed full of violence-gags...

raoullefere · « **Reply #84 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 09:25 »

Oh, Sven, you're facing the music* wonderfully. At least until you cringe in fear of your beating.

Superb.

This is awful of me, but I lmao at that part of this strip. It says volumes, to me, about Sven's maturity. And anyone (including Jeph himself, I suppose) who thinks Jeph can't do facial expressions is blind. Rarely, here and elsewhere in QC, have I seen so much conveyed by so little. Let's face it, Jeph uses fairly minimal lines to draw the characters' faces, but gets, to me, a full range of emotion in them nonetheless. Take this strip: Faye happy, Sven trying to decide what to do, then deciding to take the music. And Faye then looking like a whipped puppy as Sven cringes for the beating he probably wants more than that expression.

I'll say something else: nobody who's engaged in casual sex gets the look Faye has in panel 4. It makes me feel bad for her, and evil that I recently said I wished she'd get run down by a semi (even though I was referring to the pre "The Talk" Faye). And all with no dialogue.

So Jeph's managed to make me laugh and feel bad all in one strip, nay, in one freakin' panel. So don't tell me he doesn't get much into the faces. No, it's not Neal Adams or Joe Orlando, but to me, that's a different sort of drawing then this. This art fits the material, and it's damned good.

*I detest the phrase "Man up." Sounds like either an erection or baseball, neither of which seems relevant.

wargrafix · « **Reply #85 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 09:31 »

one word....awesome.

roxy255 · « **Reply #86 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 09:34 »

if this were a romantic movie, sven would realize he fucked up the one good thing in his life, feel terrible, and hatch some scheme to express his devotion (publicly?) and win her back.
the sad thing is, I have been programmed (stupid fucking disney movies at a young impressionable age) to secretly root for this scenario. bleh.

Monkey Says Yes · « **Reply #87 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 09:52 »

Excellent comic. Jeph, you've made me care about Faye again, and I finally like Sven! Woohoo!

maddness · « **Reply #88 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:07 »

I'll admit it. I got a little misty reading this one. Jeph really nailed the facial expressions and Sven's last line was brilliant. I love the way Faye reacted to what Sven told her. I posted in another thread thinking that, if Faye had reacted the way Sven expected her to, he could have gotten defensive and then told himself "good riddance" when she finally walked out. This way he had to deal with the fact that he really hurt her and that she meant what she said about being gone.

Gammasite · « **Reply #89 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:08 »

MY PREDICTIONS FOR DEPRESSING COMIC WEEK:

Wednesday: Faye goes to be comforted by Dora after being crushed by Sven. General crying/sadness, mentions how lucky Dora is to have Marten who wouldn't ever ever do that. Dora has her own personal "big reveal," that she's actually just paranoid and has no reason to be so irrational towards Marten. (probably shown by just a look of dawning comprehension on her face).

Thursday: Marten and Dora see each other (I dunno, Marten shows up or something) and Dora's all "OMG I'VE FINALLY REALIZED I WAS BEING A BITCH I LOVE YOU MARTEN" buuuuut...Marten, as a result of realizing his life needs a change and Dora has a tendency to treat him like crap for no reason when she gets paranoid...gives her the "We need to stop seeing each other" speech.

Friday Possibility A: Marten explains his reasoning, and the strip ends with Marten walking down the street with his thumb out and Pintsize on his back, Hulk-style. QC ends, all relationships having been properly shattered. We live out the rest of our lives with a hole in our hearts.

Friday Possibility B: IT WAS ALL A DREAM

Mallli_kite · « **Reply #90 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:25 »

Jeph tortures his characters on a pure Dickensian scale. Damn the man!

I'm leaning toward the "Sven has the big realization/Faye has the big realization" path here. I mean, Faye's been saying all along she doesn't want a relationship, she isn't ready for a relationship, she can't have a relationship...and here she is, realizing that she really, really, really wants a relationship. And Sven -- he has had another first. He confesses, the girl goes away, AND HE ISN'T HAPPY. It would only have been better if he'd said "and the whole time, I kept thinking of you and how I shouldn't be doing it, and I've never HAD those thoughts before." I mean, he is showing signs of really caring about Faye. That's gotta be brand new to him. Like any new thing, he's gonna fuck it up a few times before he gets it right.

I'm half expecting that when Faye tells Dora, Dora will be dumbstruck that Sven actually told her the truth and didn't try any of his old, slimy denials and escapes.

I'm gonna be hopeful here that Sven and Faye will eventually talk and tell each other the truth, because, really, I'm an optimist. I know that it's possible (from a been there, done that, still with it standpoint) for a relationship to recover from shit like this if there's anything good in it in the first place, but it is a lot of work. I hope, wish, pray, want, beg that they are up for it. I'd like to see them start over with a real relationship. They are young yet, and this may not be a forever thing, but it can be good for what it is.

Then again, maybe Faye just walked outside to get a club or a gun or something.

cgarci21 · « **Reply #91 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:38 »

^^What she said....'cept maybe the club part. If Faye was going to get violent (which I'm happy she didn't because it would be inappropriate and out of context) she would have already.

Quote from: roxy255 on 17 Feb 2009, 09:34

if this were a romantic movie, sven would realize he fucked up the one good thing in his life, feel terrible, and hatch some scheme to express his devotion (publicly?) and win her back.
the sad thing is, I have been programmed (stupid fucking disney movies at a young impressionable age) to secretly root for this scenario. bleh.

Me too. I hate wanting it but I knew I would feel unreasonably bad for these characters...I just want them to be HAPPY damnit. Just for a few strips!! I really enjoy the Sven/Faye dynamic in the comic. It's a good foil relationship for Marten/Dora and it's helped to keep another male in the comic. QC has been a male or two short as I am sure everyone's noticed. Steve, Jimbo and even Angus would be refreshing perspectives after all the ladies.

And where is Wil?? He needs to come back and help Sven get Faye back with some of that sexy poetry!

Mr. Skawronska · « **Reply #92 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:48 »

Quote from: haikupoet on 16 Feb 2009, 21:54

Crushed Faye is crushed.

I expect alcohol

Damn right! SO DO I!!! WOOHOO!!!

YOU ROCK, JEPH!!!

YOU ROCK!!

The Glenlivet, HERE I COME!!

S

SavannahGirl · « **Reply #93 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:51 »

Poor Faye,I think she was starting to like Sven for more than just a booty call. I hope he realizes that he has feeling for her too. (I hope he dose have feelings for her)
Like i have stated before, I hope they end up as a couple

Jimor · « **Reply #94 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 10:59 »

One thing to consider, I don't think the Marten/Hannelore subplot is an accident. Faye is probably on the way home to talk with Marten, or at least to gain strength from his dependable presence even if she doesn't tell him, but she's going to find an empty apartment (well, Pintsize is there, and perhaps is about to create the most monumental example of his performance art ever). Nothing to ratchet up the sadness like having nobody to turn to. I don't think Dora is the shoulder Faye wants right now.

AnkhWL · « **Reply #95 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 11:03 »

Quote from: LunaCorn on 16 Feb 2009, 23:25

!_!

Comparing her face in the first panel and then in the fourth is heartbreaking. She seems like she really was hoping that he missed her.

Pretty much what I was going to say. Anyone who has suddenly been having a nice day and completely oblivious to what is going to happen next.. its a hard cliff to fall from when someone throws that kind of info at you.

disaacs · « **Reply #96 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 11:26 »

Quote from: LunaCorn on 16 Feb 2009, 23:25

!_!

Comparing her face in the first panel and then in the fourth is heartbreaking. She seems like she really was hoping that he missed her.

And if he had missed her, I think they would have become a steady item. Sven and Faye came within a few hours of being a "real" couple, and then Sven blew it. It's agonizing to think how close Sven and Faye, both emotionally damaged in their own ways, came to happiness. Now they have to start over.

Sven can start by framing his "1000 hurts" t-shirt as a reminder of how much a shit he can be.

moshimoshi_haihai · « **Reply #97 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 11:53 »

Quote from: Jimor on 17 Feb 2009, 10:59

One thing to consider, I don't think the Marten/Hannelore subplot is an accident. Faye is probably on the way home to talk with Marten, or at least to gain strength from his dependable presence even if she doesn't tell him, but she's going to find an empty apartment (well, Pintsize is there, and perhaps is about to create the most monumental example of his performance art ever). Nothing to ratchet up the sadness like having nobody to turn to. I don't think Dora is the shoulder Faye wants right now.

I agree. There is no way Faye will go to Dora right now...Dora hated this relationship from the beginning. She knew it was a bad idea and threatened Sven because of it. Faye won't want to go tell Dora that she was right. Faye will want to turn to Marten, the first person she opened up to since her father's suicide. Assuming she does go home, it's probable that marten won't be there as Jimor pointed out. She'll kick herself for passing Marten up and push away from Dora even more. There's going to be a spew of emotions on all character accounts here, real soon.

Hannelore, FTW, as usual. She has a little nest in my heart.

Glamdring · « **Reply #98 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 12:05 »

No telling what Faye will go off and do, but one thing is nearly certain - there will be alcohol involved. To begin with, alcohol seems to be the QC characters' #1 way of dealing with relationship explodey-ness. To end with, alcohol has traditionally been Faye's #1 way of dealing with things she doesn't want to actually face, and I think this qualifies.

The real question in my mind is where Sven will go from here. I think he genuinely feels like shit about it, whereas he definitely wouldn't have before meeting Faye. I just don't think he really knows what to do about it.

The best part about this is that technically, he didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't in a relationship with Faye, and he never agreed to monogamy. She accepted that with the caveat that if/when he did bang someone else, she was out of there. End result being (predictably, because I've actually seen this happen to friends in real life) he *did* bang someone else, and she *did* leave, but what neither one realized was that they had opened up their hearts to one another and the real result was (drumroll....) 1000 hurts.

Kugai · « **Reply #99 on:** 17 Feb 2009, 12:20 »

Looking at it again, I can see that Sven would have rather taken the beating rather than what Faye did - Just walk out.

Right now. I think he feels lower than a Cardassian Gunrunner.

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