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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #150 on: 31 Jul 2009, 17:48 »

@nichidani: Close. He's Momiji, Momo is his sister.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #151 on: 31 Jul 2009, 17:54 »

clearly she needs "help" with that because she'd rather sit on her computer all night than put forth any effort to socialise and enjoy the company of others.

Although I agree with hygiene being an issue, I strongly disagree with the above claim.
What people enjoy doing with their time is up to them, as long as it doesn't harm others. Yes, it seems likely that she will turn out to enjoy socialising, and be much happier for it, and in that case she will have been "helped". Yes, in this particular case she states that she doesn't know "how to talk to people" as a reason, which is a good indicator that it's a matter of inhibition rather than pure preference.

But: your statement suggests that wanting to sit on a computer all night rather than socialise is wrong, and someone who felt that way would need help.
I think that's kind of narrow-minded... I'm sure you disagree, but let me elaborate.

When it comes down to it, it's a simple issue of preference and although as a culture we're pushed to believe that being social is somehow 'right', it doesn't make it true. I know people who honestly prefer to stay at home and mess around on their computers than go out. I initially took the busy-body role and thought they needed help themselves, that they were just silly and hadn't tried having good ol' social fun. I dragged said friends out places, and you know what?
2 house parties, a concert (a band they all loved), a picnic, 3 bars and a sunny day at the beach later... They didn't enjoy themselves. Didn't matter where. They just genuinely did not have a good time - they genuinely preferred spending time online.

Someone not wanting to go out doesn't make them a child that we have to go and teach a lesson. Too many jump into crud like this assuming that they somehow know more about the person in question than that person knows themselves. The fact of the matter is that we all enjoy different things, and I know I ended up feeling like a dick for trying to force what I enjoy on other adults.

Anyway, I don't mean to be rude or anything, just to present a case against a common assumption. I registered just to post this, because it's something I personally have learned that many people seem to not consider.  :-)
Sorry to go a little off-topic. Again, it does appear that Marigold would personally benefit from some socialisation, but the reasons in the quoted claim seemed to be unspecific to Marigold.

Being as I'm registered on a forum devoted to a webcomic, I assumed it'd be fairly apparent that I enjoy some hermitry myself. Hell, it's Friday night and I've spent it all sitting in my house playing video games. I wasn't criticising Marigold for staying in, merely stating that she definitely needed aid in preparing for a social event, which she seems to avoid out of anxiety rather than a true lack of desire.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #152 on: 31 Jul 2009, 22:50 »

sama was used during the samurai period in Japan to address high ranking samurai aka Tokogawa-sama was used to address lord tokogawa by those under his command.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #153 on: 01 Aug 2009, 01:46 »

@Lyrical: Domo arigato!
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #154 on: 01 Aug 2009, 01:48 »

Jeph, you know that you can save a PNG as 24-bits to make it look exactly like the jpeg, right? (actually even better, since you'd have the lighting effect perfect _and_ no weird box artifacts in the rest of the image)
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #155 on: 01 Aug 2009, 01:55 »

@nichidani: Close. He's Momiji, Momo is his sister.

ah now i remember, she was so cute!!! >w<
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #156 on: 01 Aug 2009, 10:17 »

sama was used during the samurai period in Japan to address high ranking samurai aka Tokogawa-sama was used to address lord tokogawa by those under his command.


Pretty sure it's just an honorific, and really's got nothing to do with samurai (but they would have been using it then)

like how San means basically Mister, Sama is more like Sir.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #157 on: 01 Aug 2009, 11:18 »

Makes sense. I only saw those titles when I was reading Shogun some years ago haven't seen them used in a more conventional setting prior to now.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #158 on: 01 Aug 2009, 17:05 »

I just registered to point out that Yelling Bird's phrase "Marigold has a cock" does not preclude the possibility that said cock is some sort of trophy.

Pickled in a jar.

On her nightstand.   :evil:



On the other hand, there is this strip (and we all know how Jeph likes to foreshadow future plot developments)

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #159 on: 02 Aug 2009, 00:30 »

You know what, these QC robots are actually useful.

Jeph, you know that you can save a PNG as 24-bits to make it look exactly like the jpeg, right? (actually even better, since you'd have the lighting effect perfect _and_ no weird box artifacts in the rest of the image)
Yes but will be much larger in size.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #160 on: 02 Aug 2009, 00:31 »

clearly she needs "help" with that because she'd rather sit on her computer all night than put forth any effort to socialise and enjoy the company of others.

Although I agree with hygiene being an issue, I strongly disagree with the above claim.
What people enjoy doing with their time is up to them, as long as it doesn't harm others. Yes, it seems likely that she will turn out to enjoy socialising, and be much happier for it, and in that case she will have been "helped". Yes, in this particular case she states that she doesn't know "how to talk to people" as a reason, which is a good indicator that it's a matter of inhibition rather than pure preference.

But: your statement suggests that wanting to sit on a computer all night rather than socialise is wrong, and someone who felt that way would need help.
I think that's kind of narrow-minded... I'm sure you disagree, but let me elaborate.

When it comes down to it, it's a simple issue of preference and although as a culture we're pushed to believe that being social is somehow 'right', it doesn't make it true. I know people who honestly prefer to stay at home and mess around on their computers than go out. I initially took the busy-body role and thought they needed help themselves, that they were just silly and hadn't tried having good ol' social fun. I dragged said friends out places, and you know what?
2 house parties, a concert (a band they all loved), a picnic, 3 bars and a sunny day at the beach later... They didn't enjoy themselves. Didn't matter where. They just genuinely did not have a good time - they genuinely preferred spending time online.

Someone not wanting to go out doesn't make them a child that we have to go and teach a lesson. Too many jump into crud like this assuming that they somehow know more about the person in question than that person knows themselves. The fact of the matter is that we all enjoy different things, and I know I ended up feeling like a dick for trying to force what I enjoy on other adults.

Anyway, I don't mean to be rude or anything, just to present a case against a common assumption. I registered just to post this, because it's something I personally have learned that many people seem to not consider.  :-)
Sorry to go a little off-topic. Again, it does appear that Marigold would personally benefit from some socialisation, but the reasons in the quoted claim seemed to be unspecific to Marigold.
You know, instead of making that long ass redundant post about nothing, you could have just concisely said "do what you want with your life and not give a shit what others think". I think it gets across the same message.

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clearly she needs "help" with that because she'd rather sit on her computer all night than put forth any effort to socialise and enjoy the company of others.
That said I don't spend my Friday nights out, I spend them playing video games or in front of my computer and I'm doing pretty well for myself. I have a nice set of good friends, an incredibly hot and wonderful girlfriend, and a stable living situation. I'm actually pretty good at socializing and I get along with just about everyone I meet.

So no, I don't think there's something wrong with me because my hobbies are different than yours.

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I DON'T KNOW HOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #161 on: 02 Aug 2009, 00:58 »

Hey you two. Shut the fuck up.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #162 on: 02 Aug 2009, 02:12 »

You know what, these QC robots are actually useful.

Jeph, you know that you can save a PNG as 24-bits to make it look exactly like the jpeg, right? (actually even better, since you'd have the lighting effect perfect _and_ no weird box artifacts in the rest of the image)
Yes but will be much larger in size.

I did some quick back of the envelop calculations, and at the current file size of ~200k, with the 300k or so readers Jeph has, that's 60G per comic of bandwidth, or 1.2T per month JUST for the comic image. I'm sure there's some headroom in the server account, but more than doubling the size of the image file to make it "pure" possibly has some real consequences.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #163 on: 02 Aug 2009, 08:55 »

Marigold said she didn't know how to talk to people. Unless that was just a phony excuse, Momo-tan (*) should have given her a quick lesson instead of moving into Ominous Mode. One of those "Ask open-ended questions about hobbies, travel, family, music and so on" explanations.

(*) One of the typos I caught before posting this was "Mom-tan".
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #164 on: 02 Aug 2009, 09:06 »

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clearly she needs "help" with that because she'd rather sit on her computer all night than put forth any effort to socialise and enjoy the company of others.
That said I don't spend my Friday nights out, I spend them playing video games or in front of my computer and I'm doing pretty well for myself. I have a nice set of good friends, an incredibly hot and wonderful girlfriend, and a stable living situation. I'm actually pretty good at socializing and I get along with just about everyone I meet.

So no, I don't think there's something wrong with me because my hobbies are different than yours.

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I DON'T KNOW HOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE

Didn't I already answer this? I'm fairly sure I already answered this.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #165 on: 02 Aug 2009, 11:19 »

sama was used during the samurai period in Japan to address high ranking samurai aka Tokogawa-sama was used to address lord tokogawa by those under his command.
That's because he was in a respected position, not specifically because he was a samurai.:)  There are some martial-arts-specific titles, though, as well as sensei (teacher), listed in the Wiki page I mentioned in my earlier post.

Darke, there's nothing wrong with geeking out as a hobby, but it's pretty clear that Marigold *wants* to socialise, but doesn't feel confident in talking to new people yet.  http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1429  She did fine hanging out with Hanners and Angus, and the QC group seems to be pretty good at drawing people out of their shells.  As far as the "grooming" goes, I doubt Momo-tan is going to try to turn her into a high fashion model or do anything extreme.  She's just reassuring Marten that Marigold won't show up stinky, to avoid another awkward zone like when Hanners returned the anime.

BTW, one of my friends broke up with her boyfriend over something similar - she came home feeling frisky, stripped off her clothes, and sat in his lap while he was playing Rainbow Six.  He said, "Hi honey, can you shift over a bit?  Your tits are blocking the monitor."
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #166 on: 02 Aug 2009, 12:11 »

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clearly she needs "help" with that because she'd rather sit on her computer all night than put forth any effort to socialise and enjoy the company of others.
That said I don't spend my Friday nights out, I spend them playing video games or in front of my computer and I'm doing pretty well for myself. I have a nice set of good friends, an incredibly hot and wonderful girlfriend, and a stable living situation. I'm actually pretty good at socializing and I get along with just about everyone I meet.

So no, I don't think there's something wrong with me because my hobbies are different than yours.

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I DON'T KNOW HOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE

Didn't I already answer this? I'm fairly sure I already answered this.
Yeah, you did. I seemed to have missed it.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #167 on: 02 Aug 2009, 12:49 »

I DON'T KNOW HOT TO TALK TO PEOPLE

"Perhaps,'' said Darcy, "I should have judged better, had I sought an introduction, but I am ill qualified to recommend myself to strangers.''

"Shall we ask your cousin the reason of this?'' said Elizabeth, still addressing Colonel Fitzwilliam. "Shall we ask him why a man of sense and education, and who has lived in the world, is ill qualified to recommend himself to strangers?''

"I can answer your question,'' said Fitzwilliam, "without applying to him. It is because he will not give himself the trouble.''

"I certainly have not the talent which some people possess,'' said Darcy, "of conversing easily with those I have never seen before. I cannot catch their tone of conversation, or appear interested in their concerns, as I often see done.''

"My fingers,'' said Elizabeth, "do not move over this instrument in the masterly manner which I see so many women's do. They have not the same force or rapidity, and do not produce the same expression. But then I have always supposed it to be my own fault -- because I would not take the trouble of practising. It is not that I do not believe my fingers as capable as any other woman's of superior execution.''

Darcy smiled, and said, "You are perfectly right. You have employed your time much better. No one admitted to the privilege of hearing you, can think any thing wanting. We neither of us perform to strangers.''
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #168 on: 02 Aug 2009, 12:58 »

BTW, one of my friends broke up with her boyfriend over something similar - she came home feeling frisky, stripped off her clothes, and sat in his lap while he was playing Rainbow Six.  He said, "Hi honey, can you shift over a bit?  Your tits are blocking the monitor."

that's effing priceless. i would probably have done the same thing (the breaking up part, not the rainbow six > sex part.)
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #169 on: 02 Aug 2009, 15:06 »

I realize I'm a little slow off the mark on this one, but I'm having a little math trouble. I'm assuming that Dora's mathematical error was caused by her moving the decimal point one column over on Faye's paycheck. Fair enough, but in my understanding, jobs like Barrista in the US pay weekly, rather than monthly. If you move the decimal point in Faye's wage packet over one column then it means she made $5,600 in a week. Even if we assume a monthly pay period then it still seems too much. Is $560 a week for a Barrista reasonable?

Generally if you're out on a decimal point then it's only a factor of ten because any more shows up too strongly.

Or is Dora paying her hush-money to stop Marten finding out she's sleeping with his mother?
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #170 on: 02 Aug 2009, 16:31 »

Or is Dora paying her hush-money to stop Marten finding out she's sleeping with his mother?

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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #171 on: 02 Aug 2009, 17:36 »

BTW, one of my friends broke up with her boyfriend over something similar - she came home feeling frisky, stripped off her clothes, and sat in his lap while he was playing Rainbow Six.  He said, "Hi honey, can you shift over a bit?  Your tits are blocking the monitor."

that's effing priceless. i would probably have done the same thing (the breaking up part, not the rainbow six > sex part.)
A friend of mine is going through a similar situation. She has feelings for one of my other friends, and he shares that sentiment, but he's too blinded by his immaturity and his obsession with video games to care. Honestly, when did that stop being a hobby and start becoming a lifestyle? It perplexes me.

Oh, and he plays different variations of the AVGN theme full blast on his cell in public. I swear, there's no helping the guy.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #172 on: 02 Aug 2009, 18:50 »

I resent the idea that a guy should be dumped just because he didn't instantly jump on his girlfriend the moment she decided she wanted some. Dude's trying to relax, give him a break.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #173 on: 02 Aug 2009, 21:06 »

I resent the idea that a guy should be dumped just because he didn't instantly jump on his girlfriend the moment she decided she wanted some. Dude's trying to relax, give him a break.
Agreed, although it may have been an ongoing thing or maybe the straw that broke the camel's back sort of thang.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #174 on: 02 Aug 2009, 21:31 »

I did some quick back of the envelop calculations, and at the current file size of ~200k, with the 300k or so readers Jeph has, that's 60G per comic of bandwidth, or 1.2T per month JUST for the comic image. I'm sure there's some headroom in the server account, but more than doubling the size of the image file to make it "pure" possibly has some real consequences.

What makes you think it would double it? Just saving the existing comic itself as 24 bits only is a 1.5x increase - and that's ignoring the fact that a lot of areas that are complex dither patterns would be solid colors.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #175 on: 03 Aug 2009, 20:34 »

I don't know all the details, just she told me about the Rainbow Six thing, and 3 or 4 days later, they broke up.  So, I assumed the two were connected.  Most likely it was a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing.  I *do* think that most women don't expect to be rejected sexually.  While a lot of them would be fine with "I'm too tired/sick/in a bad mood/etc." they'd feel that "I'd rather play computer games" is kind of lame.  When I told my ex-boyfriend the story, shortly after we started dating, he said, "If I ever do that to you, just go ahead and shoot me.  I'd already be dead and just not have realised it yet!"  Of course, he was just kidding, but he didn't do anything like that in the 3 years we were together.
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Re: WCT: July 27-31, 2009
« Reply #176 on: 03 Aug 2009, 21:45 »

EDIT: Wrong blasted topic.
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