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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #100 on: Yesterday at 21:16 »

To be fair, Tai invited them to the bar. Which from our perspective, left it leaning heavily towards Dora and Tai getting engaged. I mean, imagine how likely these two scenarios are:
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she said yes. We're engaged!"
Marten: "Congratulations!"

Or....
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she turned me down."
Marten: ".....Oh."
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #101 on: Yesterday at 21:18 »

It pleases me that, amongst the four primary "idiots," three have some sort of sheepish grin in panel 4, while Bubbles makes her "savings throw" statement with exactly the same expression.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #102 on: Yesterday at 22:16 »

Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?

Put Obergefell v. Hodges together with the AI ERA and it should be as clear cut as anything ever is in the law.

Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #103 on: Yesterday at 22:20 »

Now that the concept of getting married is no longer ignorable, are Faye and Bubbles going to have a talk about where they are in their relationship?

Related: is human/robot marriage even legal?
Meh, if they don't like it they can call a cop.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #104 on: Yesterday at 22:35 »

I think, they were expecting excited screaming and confetti.
What did they expect though? They probably were too busy seeing how freaked out Marten was and how he left, Claire still winding down not yet capable of being her cheerful self. Bubbles is Bubbles, and they could see why Faye might be a bit... distracted, since it seems to be her first time in a bar ever since.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #105 on: Yesterday at 22:41 »

"We didn't invite you here for honest reactions!"
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #106 on: Yesterday at 22:57 »

To be fair, Tai invited them to the bar. Which from our perspective, left it leaning heavily towards Dora and Tai getting engaged. I mean, imagine how likely these two scenarios are:
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she said yes. We're engaged!"
Marten: "Congratulations!"

Or....
Marten: "Hey Tai, why did you invite us out?"
Tai: "Well, I asked Dora if she would marry me and she turned me down."
Marten: ".....Oh."

Possibly, but maybe they went from engagement to married.  Perhaps they were so in the moment they went to the courthouse and sealed the deal. 
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #107 on: Yesterday at 23:12 »

This is a hilarious comic. It's the comparison of the two rows that makes it work and especially the facial expressions. If nothing else, I suspect Dora and Tai are more than a little peeved that their highly-neurotic friends are hard-pressed to make this not be about them rather than the happy couple! That said, Faye at least is offering Dora and Tai validation; she clearly thinks that Dora ought to have said yes.

A nice bonus is where Bubbles' hand is: It isn't shifting from Faye's shoulder and that's a wonderfully subtle gesture of support and protection.

"We didn't invite you here for honest reactions!"

Precisely. Sometimes, saying 'congratulations' is enough. Perhaps one should avoid more detailed commentary in situations like this! :laugh:
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #108 on: Yesterday at 23:17 »


I have a similar issue. I just sit there thinking 'you do this to yourself by choice. And it costs you so much money.'

Ditto on the I-don't-like-being-drunk train.

For me, most beer tastes vile (anything not derived solely from fruit), and being drunk is more frustrating than fun. My inhibitors go up, yet I still get the impaired balance and motor skills. On the taste front, most mixed drinks and hard liquors are okay, but I'm "pretty picky" since I don't do anything bitter.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #109 on: Today at 01:34 »

It pleases me that, amongst the four primary "idiots," three have some sort of sheepish grin in panel 4, while Bubbles makes her "savings throw" statement with exactly the same expression.

You beat me to it!  :-D
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #110 on: Today at 02:19 »


Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?
IIRC we've only seen two other AI couples: Jeremy/7 and Melon/Arthur and whether they are married or not hasn't been stated AFAIK. And IIRC we haven't seen any other AI/human relations at all.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #111 on: Today at 02:46 »


Have we ever heard of a married synthetic at all, ever? Is it something they even do?

IIRC we've only seen two other AI couples: Jeremy/7 and Melon/Arthur and whether they are married or not hasn't been stated AFAIK. And IIRC we haven't seen any other AI/human relations at all.

FWIW, it's not in Jeph's style to write drama of this sort. If he did decide to have a human/synthetic wedding, I think he'd prefer to (and likely have more fun with) contrasting the traditions of the two species and making jokes about the resulting hybrid ceremony (FAYE: "I am not sticking a USB cable in my ear for anyone!").

It's more in his style that he'll have a Reliable Narrator like Momo explain that this has all been sorted out ages ago, possibly including telling the tale. My favourite idea is something like that Joaquin Phoenix film, Her. A guy working for a bank that has an unembodied AI as its 24-hour trading monitoring and execution system. He pulls several night shifts and gets to know her (and the system very clearly identifies as female). Gradually, they fall in love and she ultimately takes up a buy-out of her contract, gets a anthropomimetic chassis and the two get married (and even adopt a kid).

Momo notes that the Supreme Court ruling was actually not close but that, to this day, many continue to fume about the extension of equal rights to that degree. Maybe Momo will note that the lady in question actually now teaches pure maths at Smif and all the students she's spoken to agree that she and her husband remain extremely in love. Another interesting twist would be that she was quite rich because of her bonuses from her smart trading; it was her money that partly paid for the development of highly-anthropometic chassis that exist in the present.

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Maybe this was the test case that led to the AIs being granted equal rights with humans?
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #112 on: Today at 03:38 »

I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.

I was also very surprised that Faye didn't share her concerns about the bar with Marten. Not because of any beliefs about honesty is the best policy(*) but because I felt it was out of character for her, given what we've seen of their friendship post Faye's hospitalisation. She didn't hesitate to ask him to keep an eye on her in the past.

So I guess I'm leaning towards the "thinking about it while walking to work made her realise she wasn't as okay as she said she was" theory.

*(Personally I think that honesty is usually the best policy. But not always.)

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I wonder if we're going to have a brief weird moment when Tai (or Dora) realise that 2 out the 4 of people who have come to celebrate with them aren't drinking. Bubbles could smell some alcohol or try a robot beer if she wanted to, but I'm sure she'd see helping Faye stay sober as much more important.

I sure hope that if there is such a moment, that Tai/Dora won't say any of the various thoughtless comments I've encountered over the years when people realise I'm not drinking. I don't drink because I don't want to, I imagine such comments would be even more difficult for Faye to deal with.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #113 on: Today at 03:50 »

Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #114 on: Today at 04:01 »

Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

Do you think any use of substance is abuse? Honest question, no innuendo intended.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #115 on: Today at 04:04 »

I don't think it's an issue of Faye being dishonest.

You really think so?

Marten: She wants us all to come out for drinks tonight. How about I offer our place instead?

Dishonest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine. I can handle bein' in a bar.

Honest answer:

Faye: No, no, it's fine, but I may need some help with this.

It seems so out of character for her to decide to hide this from Marten, of all people.

I was also very surprised that Faye didn't share her concerns about the bar with Marten. Not because of any beliefs about honesty is the best policy(*) but because I felt it was out of character for her, given what we've seen of their friendship post Faye's hospitalisation. She didn't hesitate to ask him to keep an eye on her in the past.

So I guess I'm leaning towards the "thinking about it while walking to work made her realise she wasn't as okay as she said she was" theory.

*(Personally I think that honesty is usually the best policy. But not always.)

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I wonder if we're going to have a brief weird moment when Tai (or Dora) realise that 2 out the 4 of people who have come to celebrate with them aren't drinking. Bubbles could smell some alcohol or try a robot beer if she wanted to, but I'm sure she'd see helping Faye stay sober as much more important.

I sure hope that if there is such a moment, that Tai/Dora won't say any of the various thoughtless comments I've encountered over the years when people realise I'm not drinking. I don't drink because I don't want to, I imagine such comments would be even more difficult for Faye to deal with.

I think the comic makes it perfectly clear that from now on, Faye will be more inclined to ask Bubbles for that sort of help.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #116 on: Today at 04:15 »

Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

Do you think any use of substance is abuse? Honest question, no innuendo intended.

I didn't say abuse, I said use. There is a difference. But a consistent trait of Tai throughout the comic is that she has and does use drugs, with pot being her drug of choice.

What I was previously trying to get at was the idea that Tai might not necessarily think of Faye as an alcoholic or an addict, simply because they aren't particularly close, it might not occur to Tai that for Faye "just one drink" is anything but that.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #117 on: Today at 04:41 »

I doubt it.  Tai has been a few things in the comic but she's never forced anything on anyone as far as I can recall.  She's in the circle of friends, she's assumingly talked to Dora about Faye when they had issues with her being fired from the coffee shop and why Dora had to do it, she assumingly knows about Faye quitting alcohol and trying to stop.  It's at this point though, none of them but Bubbles know about the apprehension Faye has about being in the bar.  I'd more expect Dolphin guy to show up and try to get her to drink more than Tai would.   

Tai has always struck me more as someone who's experienced in many different forms of mood altering substances, but she's not a pusher trying to get others to join her in her endeavors, but if your on the same ride of your own free will and want to spend some time traveling together?  Well that's cool.
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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #118 on: Today at 06:32 »

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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #119 on: Today at 06:58 »

It seemed entirely possible that Tai was calling her friends because Dora said NO and wanted to drown her sorrows... *shrug*

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Re: WCDT Strips 3986-3990 (22nd - 26th April, 2019)
« Reply #120 on: Today at 07:14 »

Well now I'm wondering if Tai is going to act as the tempter for Faye later in this story, trying to get her to have a drink to celebrate the engagement.

Of course, this could be an interesting time to look at Tai's own predilection for substance use and maybe some sort of realisation.

I was actually wondering if Tai would act as a tempter, leading to drama betwene her and Dora when Dora realizes that Tai is trying to persuade Faye to imbibe.

Might just be thinking that because it seems to have been a while since drama.
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