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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3000 on: 25 Aug 2012, 11:11 »

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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3001 on: 25 Aug 2012, 11:47 »

Way to go Patrick, you don't have to drive something this tiny! (but its totally about under-compensation or something) (#totallywishIhadamustangtoo)

Thanks! I'm stoked, it turns out it's not the 3.8L V6 but a 4.6L V8 instead, unfffffffff. Re: the money thing, correct me if I'm wrong but don't they have to import Mustangs to the UK but not Fiestas?

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I made a friend last night. This girl I sorta know but never really liked (she once kicked a door into my hand as I was holding it for her, and my hand hurt for a while after that) was at my bar alone last night. She decided to come up and hang out with my buddy and I while we played pool. Later she and I walked to the gas station together so I could get cigarettes. Turns out she's not actually a total jerk. Still not completely sold on her, but hey, it's positive progress.

It was a little awkward when she first walked up though, 'cause she stroked my back and asked me to watch her beer and I just kinda recoiled a little bit. Just 'cause we know a lot of the same folks doesn't mean I want to be touched like we're super good friends or something, and everybody knows I'm a sensitive dude.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3002 on: 25 Aug 2012, 12:16 »

The reason I won't call ASPCA or have the dog taken away is because it'd create some super unnecessary strife between us and I like where I live wrt location and rent cost.

I am gonna mention that we have a flea problem and that we need to do something about it as it should make the dog and cats feel better. Its not that he doesn't care about the dog, he just gets drunk before he can really get anything done.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3003 on: 25 Aug 2012, 21:26 »

...he just gets drunk before he can really get anything done.

Which is the real problem.  If he's a student like yourself, he probably won't be for much longer. 
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3004 on: 26 Aug 2012, 02:48 »

...he just gets drunk before he can really get anything done.

Which is the real problem.  If he's a student like yourself, he probably won't be for much longer. 

A close friend of mine is on academic probation from Chico State for that very reason. He partied a lot and wasn't managing his responsibilities vs distractions very well. He's been on a good path lately ever since but it's a bummer he had to have that kind of wakeup call.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3005 on: 26 Aug 2012, 12:15 »

Actually he's 31 and has a job that pays him like $30K a year, salary.

I also managed to catch him yesterday while sober and he agreed that there is an issue and he said he's gonna buy some vacuum belts (which is what we need to make our vacuum work) and some anti-flea carpet stuff and we are gonna enact the final solution on the fleas.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3006 on: 26 Aug 2012, 18:00 »

A flea bomb may be more effective, since they can be elsewhere. 

Good luck! 
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3007 on: 26 Aug 2012, 18:41 »

we are gonna bomb the basement as well, but we just don't have the time or ability to bomb the house I guess.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3008 on: 26 Aug 2012, 20:17 »

You have to clear out of the house for a couple of hours, dog too, which if you're all busy people can be difficult. But I'm glad he's agreed to do something at least.

Blog thread,

I go back to school tomorrow. I don't want to go, I want more summer. I'm used to starting uni in September, but we've switched to semesters and this will be full of suck come morning.  :-\
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3009 on: 27 Aug 2012, 05:01 »

Oh man. Today I got final confirmation for a show in Oakland in October, found out we've made good headway on getting a show in Berkeley, and heard from all the bands re: playing a show for my sister when she's here in town in October. Fuck yeah, I rock today.

Had a sorta half-assed practice today, but that's because it was more like a barbecue (okay I'll be honest it was totally just a barbecue) since Matt's birthday is soon and his girlfriend just arrived back from Vancouver AND his parents are out of town until Wednesday. No real hell-raising, just a couple brews and burgers, a good deal of shittalking, and we worked on maybe like 3 of our newer songs. All around a really fun time. The last few practices have been kinda a bummer so it was really nice to just get together as friends and not just focus on working. I have a feeling next practice is gonna kick ass!

All in all, today was good and I'm kinda brimming with optimism, and man it's weird how quickly I switch from being bummed out to being mega stoked all the time :B
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3010 on: 27 Aug 2012, 08:44 »

I just delivered the news to someone on facebook that a missing 5 year old was found dead in a trash can.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3011 on: 27 Aug 2012, 11:23 »

Did they have a missing 5 year old?
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3012 on: 27 Aug 2012, 11:34 »

Not after I told them. It was a facebook post. I heard about it right after I saw it pop up on my feed so I commented on it.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3013 on: 27 Aug 2012, 11:37 »

Child went missing in Niagara Falls NY. Her body was found a few hours later. I'm assuming Jace wasn't communicating the news to the little girl's parents.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3014 on: 27 Aug 2012, 11:39 »

Nah, but it was the best/worst delivery.

Post- child missing
me- the child was found
person- thank god, where
me- trash can after neighbor murdered her.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3015 on: 27 Aug 2012, 12:11 »

That's...awful.

Blog thread, in case you ever decide to work for the IT department for a university, do not ever upgrade all of the machines running Windows the night before classes start. My shift this morning was a complete lolercoaster because 2/3 of the machines in my lab were buggy! I mean I'm happy we have Windows 7, but they had all summer to do upgrades. Come on now, job.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3016 on: 27 Aug 2012, 13:06 »

We just had a transition from Fedora to Ubuntu in our part of the university. Just some computers never got the change, because nobody could agree on who's responsibility it was, so they doesn't work anymore. And then some of the computers were changed back. Now we apparently need two different sets of usernames and passwords. And a lot of the computers also lack important software (like Java, when the computers are used by students learning to program in... Java). Our IT department sucks.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3017 on: 27 Aug 2012, 13:16 »

What used to happen here is that, on the first day of classes, when you turn the teacher's computer on, it will spend the next 45 minutes looking for/downloading all the fancy updates that it had missed over the summer. Lecture over.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3018 on: 27 Aug 2012, 14:24 »

So I went to Sheffield and watched my old American football team win the Division 1 Britbowl final. Then we all went out and that's where my memory ends apart from being in the back of a taxi with the MVP at 6 in the morning getting a McDonalds breakfast. The 6 hour coach journey the next day was not pretty either. The entire team, hungover, in a bus with no opening windows and limited air con. Needless to say it did not smell fresh.

Also I've just finished a research project that was due in back in December. So I guess I can actually move on to my final year of university? I haven't done too badly so far, what with only being there for two years and only having failed two years. Definitely doing well at this whole being a student thing.

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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3019 on: 27 Aug 2012, 15:12 »

I cleaned up some old retired machines for a training session on some Oracle-based web software we use.  I installed Java 7 without a thought.  Guess what software is incompatible with Java 7?  Oracle's.  Remember who owns Java these days?  Oracle.

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« Reply #3020 on: 28 Aug 2012, 07:34 »


What the fuck was I thinking, trying to be a professor?  I'm pretty much just an asshole who loves math and likes to show other people how things work.  Why didn't I learn about computers back in the 80's?  I took one Fortran course, and never finished the final project.  At least I'd be employable. 


Hmm. My fellow (math) grad students from Notre Dame were hired (or were later hired) by AT&T (a complex analyst and a logician), GM (a logician and an algebraic geometer), Raytheon (a differential geometer who after a short stint in telcomm decided that cruise missiles have more sheen) and NSA (an algebraist). I don't know, if any options like these are available in your region (or if any of those industries are hiring in the present economy). Some of those jobs do need programming (that you could actually learn quickly enough), but even AT&T didn't ask for that, at least not in the 80s. They were more interested (as another friend who went into telcomm put it) in you being "certifiably able to use your brain" (IOW math graduate degree will be fine).

Wish I could give more contemporary suggestions. The list above is mostly meant to express that there are several industries that appreciate math expertise. Yes, some will be ageists, but you can fight it. Good luck.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3021 on: 28 Aug 2012, 09:19 »

My boyfriend has a masters in math and works for the power company predicting the power we will use.  I don't think he has any programming knowledge. 
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3022 on: 28 Aug 2012, 15:26 »

Blog thread! I have managed to arrange two prison visits! They haven't been officially confirmed yet but they're almost definite. I do need to figure out transport, but that will happen. Finally! There's one more I really want to arrange, and it's half sorted, but these two mean that I won't have to repay my college travel grant. I've also had a very productive organising day sorting out various things like trains and plans for when I get back to the UK, and sent lots of emails. I've reached the point now where all I can do is wait for responses which won't happen until the working day starts in the UK in about ten hours, and in the US in fifteen, so I'm off to walk the dog and sort out dinner. It's been a good day (also babysat a cute 3 year old boy and earned some actual dollars so I finally have some cash!) to make up for the stressful, frustrating ones I've been having.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3023 on: 28 Aug 2012, 18:44 »

May, that's great!!! Congrats and good luck :-)



Blog Thread,

Life is ridiculous right now. In a weird way. I'm not quite sure if I'm dealing with things on a "normal" level instead of over thinking or if it's just well disguised avoidance. This post is the first time I've actually acknowledged that something is not quite going as it should. My office is moving in 7 business days and it's a total zoo here. Everyone is running around like a maniac, the place is a wreck, I've not done any -real- work in the last week and I've been put in charge of our off-site records storage facility. And all the records that will be going in it.  :x

This would be great if I got some additional compensation for taking on another (huge) responsibility, but since I have no job description, I feel like my job description is "do everything in this office that no one else wants to do".

On top of work being insanity, wedding planning has all but hit a brick wall on my end. I started out strong and really got into it- turning it into an expression of Nick and I, a fun project to put together and an exercise in saving money. I made spreadsheets, checklists, pinterest boards, resource binders, etc (yeah, yeah....a little nuts). But I kinda OD-ed on the wedding-ness after a while. Nick has been doing more than I have and I feel bad but I think I'm just discouraged that a photographer is so damn expensive. I need to look at the portfolios of a few photographers, write down the ones I like, contact them for rates, look at the people that Nick emailed that are in our budget, narrow down both of those lists and choose a damn photographer. Not that hard, but just so damn daunting. Plus....that's the last really big "thing" before I get to do creative stuff. But....it's been a while since I've made any art (outside of a sculpy black cat as part of our cake topper- and that has to be redone anyway). So, I guess I'm feeling a little bit nervous about being rusty.


Oh and blog thread- I've also been feeling pukey! Isn't that great? Actually, it's more like gag-y but I don't like the way that sounds. Every once in a while I'll just get so disgusted by something and gag out of nowhere- and it's not even stuff that is that gross. And nothing really out of the ordinary- taking hair out of the shower drain, cutting chicken up to cook for dinner, thinking about a container of leftovers....even just eating certain things in general. I don't know what it is and it's annoying the hell out of me. I had an appetite at lunch for the first time today in a while and I ordered a chicken salad sandwich and a side salad. I got the the sandwich fine, but for some reason, after a few minutes, just thinking about the salad made me gag. I love salad!!! :-( I've had 2 people tell me that it sounds like I'm pregnant, but I am 99% certain that is not the case. I thought it might be the fact that my meds were increased and it might be a side effect but I went back down to my original dose and I'm still feeling icky.

I'm worried that this is my mouth's reaction to knowing that I will soon be wearing a "device" 24/7 to correct my TMJ. Or that maybe I'm actually sick, but outside of being exhausted from prepping the office move, I don't feel thaaat bad.

(In completely unrelated news, I also gave our bong a hardcore cleaning 2 days ago and it is beautiful. And such a pleasure to smoke out of. Part of me wanted to start up a Toking thread, but wasn't sure how useful it would be. I mean, there are hundreds, if not thousands of forums dedicated to it)  :-P
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3024 on: 28 Aug 2012, 18:51 »

So I admitted to my girlfriend that we should get me help with my depression so I can get pills and dope myself up so I can pretend to be happy.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3025 on: 28 Aug 2012, 20:01 »

lepetit - I'll be person number three that says that sounds like classic preggo morning-sickness. Even if you think it's not possible, spend the few bucks for a pregnancy test, just in case. Unless you're not having intercourse -at all-, there's always a chance, and depending on what your personal beliefs are, and/or what the laws are where you live, you don't want to ignore it and not have certain options available to you, should you so choose.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3026 on: 29 Aug 2012, 05:49 »

OE- been there, done that lol. This whole ordeal started before my last period, plus I'm on BC and I took a test about a week ago that came out negative. So...if that is what is causing all of this, my uterus must be made of steel and/or fucking with me.

(And is it possible to have morning sickness all day long? Oh god, that would SUCK. Mornings alone would be bad enough!)
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3027 on: 29 Aug 2012, 08:20 »

Yep! It's only called morning sickness since for most women, it happens when they first wake up, and is usually caused by the stomach being too empty. Thus the importance of saltine crackers to munch on as soon as you wake up. Some unlucky souls do suffer from it all day, or in the evenings, but it's still called 'morning sickness', regardless of duration or time of day. I've heard that it's also usually more prevalent/worse for women carrying multiples.
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« Reply #3028 on: 29 Aug 2012, 09:23 »

During one pregnancy my sis had morning sickness for 9 months, every moment of the day.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3029 on: 29 Aug 2012, 09:28 »

She must have had a terrible time keeping a healthy weight! Did the anti-nausea pills not do anything for her?
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3030 on: 29 Aug 2012, 09:39 »

I've heard that most anti nausea meds are not recommended for pregnant women, anyone know how true that is?
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3031 on: 29 Aug 2012, 09:53 »

Some are, and to be honest, there are more nausea meds available now than there were when my wife was pregnant 20 years ago.  She got by with Sea Bands on each wrist.  Then we found out that most of the sickness and the back labor we thought she had were actually her gall bladder dumping stones - she had it removed when our first daughter was 10 weeks old. 

Nothing like abdominal surgery right after a cesarian...
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3032 on: 29 Aug 2012, 11:07 »

My best friend had to be on a pump of anti-nausea meds for pretty much all of her pregnancy. I think she was ok the first month, but things went downhill really fast and she ate very little the rest of the time. (Like if she had not gotten the pump, ske could have either lost the baby or she could have gotten some serious health issues/possibly died.) The anti-nausea pills don't really work if you can't keep anything down... :-\

From what I remember, if you need an anti-nausea medication while you're pregnant, you need to talk to a doctor and they can tell you which ones are safe or they can write you a prescription. I think it depends on how much you need it/how strong it needs to be.
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3033 on: 29 Aug 2012, 11:33 »

She must have had a terrible time keeping a healthy weight! Did the anti-nausea pills not do anything for her?

I don't know whether she actually took any medication. I do know, however, that my sister and 'healthy weight' have never ever lived in the same area code. Ironic, really, since my sister is as large as to almost warrant an area code.

Sorry if that can be perceived to be rude against different sized people but she doesn't eat healthy and she's not stupid and she has been warned and there are no other issues so ...
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3034 on: 30 Aug 2012, 00:48 »

The response to this turned into an intense discussion of weight and health which has now found its way to the DISCUSS! forum - here.  Blogging may now resume here as normal.
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« Reply #3035 on: 30 Aug 2012, 14:18 »

Over the last few months I have been having trouble with getting sharp cuts (like paper cuts) on the ends of my fingers.  I never notice when it happens, and up to now have not even been able to determine when this has been happening.  This evening I was able to think through what I was doing when I got another cut, and I think that I have determined that the culprit is the sharp edges of the moulding round the sides of my keyboard.  I changed to this keyboard just a few months ago (and should change again, because I don't like it!), which correlates with the start of the problem.

Right - now to swap it out again!
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Re: Re: Blog Thread IIIb : Look Who's Blogging Now
« Reply #3036 on: 30 Aug 2012, 15:10 »

I organized my comics into a proper bookmarks folder by day so I can open all the ones of the day in one go. I've got a lot of comics I forgot about and just started another one (All New Issues) and I want to keep up with them rather than having them get lost in my bookmarks. It also means my bookmarks toolbar is a lot less filled which has been annoying me for months.

I'm aware how boring this all sounds. I just take it as a good sign this is the extent of my worst problems. Other than possibly not getting my student grant but I needed to forget about that for a while.

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« Reply #3037 on: 30 Aug 2012, 22:14 »

My bokmarks were pretty well organized, but my computer died :(

So now I'm winging it...
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« Reply #3038 on: 31 Aug 2012, 01:31 »

Tuesday night, I went and jammed with members of Spanish Cannons, a phenomenal band from the Bay Area that I've had the pleasure of sharing several show bills with. Their practice space is in this huge former warehouse in Berkeley. Had a great time, and my buddy Bryant bummed a smoke to Lars from Rancid! Gotta love local celebrities.

Yesterday morning I had a job interview, and today I found out I GOT THE JOB FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAH

Also I went to the bar tonight to support my friend as he DJed for the place. He played some of my favorite songs, I got him a beer, had a good night hanging out with awesome folks. A girl I think is really pretty was there (unusual; she moved to Portland last year) and a friend introduced us. I was like "Hey don't take this the wrong way but I think you're really pretty" and she was like "Aww thanks, my night's been super shitty and that kinda restores my faith in people not sucking." Feels nice knowing that just a single sentence helped make somebody's bad day better. :3
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« Reply #3039 on: 31 Aug 2012, 18:45 »

Tonight the boy and I celebrated our one year anniversary! We went out to a Brazilian steak house for dinner and it was delicious. I currently am pleasantly carrying a large food baby around in my tummy. *lazy smile*
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« Reply #3040 on: 01 Sep 2012, 00:37 »

Who's that mofucker rollin down the street in his legit as fuck coat of plates?

Oh he isn't rollin at all he is just awkwardly standing there in the shop in his legit as fuck coat of plates.
FYI the outside shell (what you see) is velvet.
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« Reply #3041 on: 01 Sep 2012, 05:46 »



My boy is two today.

And there is much rejoicing.
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« Reply #3042 on: 01 Sep 2012, 09:54 »

Jace,

Flashback!  I made that exact same design coat 3 years ago when I first started SCA combat.  Burgundy velvet for me, and I cheated a bit, cutting the plates from a five gallon plastic bucket rather than using metal, boiling them to reshape the curvature.  It worked really well, though! 
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« Reply #3043 on: 01 Sep 2012, 13:19 »

We cheated some on mine as well, it is t-6 aircraft aluminum. All the protection of steel, a fraction of the weight. Not to mention it is insanely easy to cut and drill through.
Both my buddy and I were a little unsure about the spacing on the rivets, I really only needed 3 for the smaller plates and 5 on the larger ones, but I decided to go with 1" between them. It seemed like a great idea when marking the holes, but upon having to use an awl to put them in, there was regret, then when we finished it, we were once again agreeing it was a great idea because it helps break up the brown a bunch.

Also accidental Atari symbol on the chest and back.
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« Reply #3044 on: 03 Sep 2012, 17:35 »

Sun Kin record release party happened on Saturday, and it was fun. Afterward, short acoustic set followed by singalongz. Best time.

I spent yesterday and part of today hanging out with my best friend's parents, lilbrother, aunt, uncle, and 2 cousins. We all miss that guy, but man am I happy to have seen them.
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« Reply #3045 on: 04 Sep 2012, 01:39 »


My boy is two today.

And there is much rejoicing.

whoa wait what? didn't he just turn one like a few months ago? tell him to cut that shit out, I can't keep track of this passage of time stuff
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« Reply #3046 on: 04 Sep 2012, 08:00 »

Tell me about it. Yesterday he was a mewling infant about 55 centimeters long and today he's a person with his own preferences and life and appointments. It goes by ... so fast.


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« Reply #3047 on: 04 Sep 2012, 16:27 »

Stupid young teenagers screwing around in work. I had to give out at them because they were sitting on this plastic framed pit thing we put footballs in and I could see it buckling under their weight. They seemed to be waiting for me to leave and watched me as I left the shop.
Luckily my coworker gave me a lift the two hundred yards to my parents house because there was over ten of them so it genuinely worried me a bit.
I don't get the desire to mess around the front door of the local shop to hang out. I didn't understand it back when I was thirteen-ish. Plus school has started again so do none of these ones have homework? Or parents/guardians to tell them to stay home since they have to be up early?

Either way I'm the cranky bitch lady at the shop and I hate it.

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« Reply #3048 on: 06 Sep 2012, 05:05 »

I like working with teenagers, don't get me wrong, but they're annoying as shit when they loiter. Loitering is dumb, but they probably just want to get out of the house and hang out with their friends...but if they're beginning to damage stuff, then it's ok to be the cranky bitch lady.
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« Reply #3049 on: 06 Sep 2012, 15:08 »

I like working with teenagers, don't get me wrong, but they're annoying as shit when they loiter. Loitering is dumb, but they probably just want to get out of the house and hang out with their friends...but if they're beginning to damage stuff, then it's ok to be the cranky bitch lady.

When I was telling them to get off the pit they were saying things like, "You can't tell me what to do." and "You can't touch us." It's scary to challenge them because if I dared lay a hand on them, even if they are damaging property, I could get into some hell. It's even worse because they know it. I can easily see them doing the same thing to teachers.
Although I do know most of their parents if I need (to get the manager) to say something.
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