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Your favorite Character so far?

Jack.
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Alice Grove
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Ardent.
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The Wind Turbine.
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The Poking Stick!
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The Silo!
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ALL OF THEM!
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Uh, what?
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Author Topic: Alice Grove MCDT - NEW COMIC! - October 2014  (Read 48890 times)

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #100 on: 03 Oct 2014, 01:40 »

Maybe it was sabotage. I am waiting for Changing Eyes to show his superpowers and save her.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #101 on: 03 Oct 2014, 04:02 »

There is nothing unusual in ropes breaking or other such unlikely mishaps in fiction. That is artistic license. (Of course now it will prove to be an assasination attempt, and I will have made a fool of myself.)

She falls from the same hight as the lowest point of the circle made by the wingtips. That is not that far up. Could be fatal, but not inevitably so.
I would go for assasination attempt/rope sabotage. If the proper safety procedures are followed, this just shall not happen.

As to the height: Difficult to judge from the perspective in strip #2, but I would guess she falls from approx 30m / 100ft height. Inevitably fatal.

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #102 on: 03 Oct 2014, 04:21 »

Don't you know how cartoon physics works? A fall from extreme height will cause no injuries whatsoever as long as somebody catches you at the bottom. Because only the ground can cause rapid, fatal deceleration.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #103 on: 03 Oct 2014, 04:30 »

Lands in a bush; problem solved.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #104 on: 03 Oct 2014, 04:50 »

Don't you know how cartoon physics works? A fall from extreme height will cause no injuries whatsoever as long as somebody catches you at the bottom. Because only the ground can cause rapid, fatal deceleration.
Well, Wile E. Coyote certainly has had his share of stony ground crashes from high altitude, without being killed so far. And neither the Road Runner nor anybody else has been there to catch him before the crash.

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #105 on: 03 Oct 2014, 05:33 »

Lands in a bush; problem solved.

The nearest bush, relative to the tower, is pretty far away.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #106 on: 03 Oct 2014, 09:54 »

Maybe it was sabotage. I am waiting for Changing Eyes to show his superpowers and save her.
Huh, an assassination attempt or sabotage hadn't occurred to me, but it seems indeed to be a likely explanation. Although I still think one should examine the rope before using it, if it is indeed attached at the top of the turbine and rolls up automatically while climbing and then again automatically abseils the climber, that's hard to do.

If this accident is not fatal, it will be a miracle indeed, assuming it takes place in a universe with the same physical laws as ours.
I know it looks like it will be fatal, but that would be such a sad option from a story-telling perspective. I just have the feeling that if the girl is Alice, she will not die right at the start. I certainly wish she doesn't die; I'm so set on her being the main character.
Maybe my feeling is wrong and she does die. But I would be sad to just see everything in retrospective or her not being in the comic -- although admittedly it can be a very gripping story-telling trick.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #107 on: 03 Oct 2014, 10:00 »

She could still be the main character even if she is dead, depending on how supernatural Jeph wants to make this.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #108 on: 03 Oct 2014, 10:26 »

She could still be the main character even if she is dead, depending on how supernatural Jeph wants to make this.
That.... is an EXCELLENT point.  Can we have a comic with both her ghost and her zombified corpse as characters?

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #109 on: 03 Oct 2014, 12:51 »

This will not end well

At the very least she'll wind up in a Wheelchair.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #110 on: 03 Oct 2014, 13:03 »

I doubt she'll die. Per a post on page one, Alice is an electrician. An electrician might (maybe) work on turbines, so maybe that's Alice. If she dies then she *was* an electrician, not *is*.

That said, maybe the grove is named in memorial of her.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #111 on: 03 Oct 2014, 15:49 »

A Soviet-era fighter pilot ejected from his plane at insanely high altitude -- over 10,000 feet-- and survived. It's possible to fall from tremendous heights and live. It just depends on how you land, and on what. What kind of shape she'd be in, assuming she lived, would be something else altogether.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #112 on: 03 Oct 2014, 16:00 »

Wile E. Coyote  certainly has had his share of stony ground crashes from high altitude, without being killed so far. And neither the Road Runner nor anybody else has been there to catch him before the crash.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #113 on: 03 Oct 2014, 16:34 »

A Soviet-era fighter pilot ejected from his plane at insanely high altitude -- over 10,000 feet-- and survived. It's possible to fall from tremendous heights and live. It just depends on how you land, and on what. What kind of shape she'd be in, assuming she lived, would be something else altogether.
I believe due to the way terminal velocity works, after a certain point it doesn't make that much difference how high you are.

Of course, I don't know if 10k feet is after that point.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #114 on: 03 Oct 2014, 21:20 »

It is (I used to skydive).

"Go, evil race!" is another anagram.
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« Reply #115 on: 04 Oct 2014, 06:04 »

It is (I used to skydive).

"Go, evil race!" is another anagram.
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« Reply #116 on: 04 Oct 2014, 06:23 »

"Go, evil race!" is another anagram.
I prefer "Go race evil!"
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« Reply #117 on: 04 Oct 2014, 06:27 »

I like "evil ego car". I've seen a few evil ego cars on the road.
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« Reply #118 on: 04 Oct 2014, 06:33 »

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #119 on: 04 Oct 2014, 09:08 »

Maybe the comic will indeed be her life flashing before her eyes. Given her mechanical career, we could pretend that the comic was originally titled "Relive a cog" but the letters arrived out of order on the server.
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« Reply #120 on: 04 Oct 2014, 10:05 »

I like "evil ego car". I've seen a few evil ego cars on the road.

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« Reply #121 on: 04 Oct 2014, 14:25 »

A Soviet-era fighter pilot ejected from his plane at insanely high altitude -- over 10,000 feet-- and survived. It's possible to fall from tremendous heights and live. It just depends on how you land, and on what. What kind of shape she'd be in, assuming she lived, would be something else altogether.

When falling from extreme heights, I think passing out and going limp is a big factor in surviving. Stay conscious and you'll go rigid, and that doesn't end well.

Also, to add to the conversation about her scaling the turbine, I believe that turbines have winches to let maintenance workers down by rope in cases of emergency. The other character is running with a purpose in clothes not fit for running, and then gives the universal symbol for help. This could be an emergency situation, which makes the potential outcome of this accident even more tragic. Oof.  :-(
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« Reply #122 on: 04 Oct 2014, 15:58 »

Cheating on anagrams

I like "Ace love rig" and "Veil or cage".
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« Reply #123 on: 04 Oct 2014, 15:59 »

I wish Jeph did the "Patrons get the next strip early" every time, I wanna know what happens!
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #124 on: 05 Oct 2014, 02:46 »

[...]

I believe due to the way terminal velocity works, after a certain point it doesn't make that much difference how high you are.

Of course, I don't know if 10k feet is after that point.

Gravity is approx 9.8 m/s2 (i.e. your speed increases at 9.8 m/s every second if you ignore wind resistance)

Wind resistance is proportional to the square of the velocity

You reach terminal velocity when the wind resistance balances the force of gravity

The terminal velocity of a person depends on their orientation.  If their body is parallel to the ground they present the greatest surface area and, therefore, the lowest terminal velocity.  I've heard it said on TV programmes the a sky diver has a terminal velocity of appox 120 mph.  A quick check on-line shows that that's appox 54 m/s (you can call it 55 if it makes the maths easier).

In a vacuum, it'd take approx 5.5-6 seconds to reach that velocity.  With wind resistance, it'll take longer as the acceleration gets less with time.  However, as wind resistance is proportional to the square of the velocty, the acceleration will be almost normal until later.  Therefore, it won't take that much longer to reach terminal velocity.
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« Reply #125 on: 05 Oct 2014, 04:19 »

There's no wind resistance in a vacuum...

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« Reply #126 on: 05 Oct 2014, 04:34 »

I never said there was.
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« Reply #127 on: 05 Oct 2014, 14:19 »

Acceleration to terminal velocity is a "decaying" (negative-powered) exponential.  You will approach terminal velocity fairly quickly at first, close to the linear velocity increase in a vacuum; the increase in velocity slows as you approach the terminal velocity.  It's actually a limit.  However, it will take more than one or two hundred feet to get close. 

Nevertheless, she'll be traveling at a good clip when she hits... if she hits.  I don't see much of an alternative, though. 
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« Reply #128 on: 05 Oct 2014, 15:26 »

Well, flying is easy - you just have to forget to hit the ground.
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« Reply #129 on: 05 Oct 2014, 16:11 »

I thought it was the art of "missing the ground".
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« Reply #130 on: 05 Oct 2014, 16:22 »

Yeah well, but the best way to miss the ground is being distracted while falling, so that you're so perplexed you just forget about hitting the ground.
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« Reply #131 on: 05 Oct 2014, 17:42 »

From the looks on their faces, both of them realize the gravity of the situation.
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« Reply #132 on: 05 Oct 2014, 17:48 »

C'mon, this is the wrong comic for Claireable puns. :claireface:
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« Reply #133 on: 05 Oct 2014, 19:37 »

She should quickly move to Australia, where it isn't fall.
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« Reply #134 on: 05 Oct 2014, 19:40 »

She should quickly move to Australia, where it isn't fall.


I'd like to note that I'm in that picture. In the loge (on the left half), so I can't even spot myself, but well, at least I'm in there somewhere.
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« Reply #135 on: 05 Oct 2014, 19:55 »

Lol at the dude in the lower left whose hand is on his forehead, leaving his entire face unpalmed.
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« Reply #136 on: 05 Oct 2014, 20:00 »

Well, that is a not too uncommon way to facepalm over here. Well. Foreheadpalm.
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« Reply #137 on: 05 Oct 2014, 20:10 »

The concept of foreheadpalm makes me facepalm.
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« Reply #138 on: 05 Oct 2014, 22:28 »

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« Reply #139 on: 06 Oct 2014, 08:17 »

Well, if it's just hanging, at least she's no falling...
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« Reply #140 on: 06 Oct 2014, 08:40 »

I foreheadpalm often because otherwise I'd get my glasses dirty, or have to remove them.
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« Reply #141 on: 06 Oct 2014, 12:53 »

You can facepalm with glasses, trust me.
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« Reply #142 on: 06 Oct 2014, 14:30 »

 I find removing my glasses to facepalm adds additional weight to the facepalm.
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« Reply #143 on: 06 Oct 2014, 15:22 »

Oh, and I've been known to remove my glasses and then proceed to do a double facepalm for epic levels of facepalm. But, if it's a minor facepalm, I'll foreheadpalm instead.
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« Reply #144 on: 06 Oct 2014, 20:48 »

Since my hairline has receded almost to my collar, I find a top of the scalp palm that then slides down over the face very effective. 
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« Reply #145 on: 06 Oct 2014, 23:17 »

She should quickly move to Australia, where it isn't fall.


I'd like to note that I'm in that picture. In the loge (on the left half), so I can't even spot myself, but well, at least I'm in there somewhere.

Okay, I have to ask: was this an attempt at setting the world's record for the largest simultaneous facepalm? Or just an extra-terrible presentation?
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« Reply #146 on: 07 Oct 2014, 01:26 »

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« Reply #147 on: 07 Oct 2014, 04:03 »

Alice has been hanging there for a long time now. Does anybody know when the next strip can be expected?

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #148 on: 07 Oct 2014, 04:19 »

More hovering than hanging at this point. Also I just noticed one guy in the front not facepalming...but blurred out?
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #149 on: 07 Oct 2014, 08:57 »

She's ALIVE. With no broken bones. And she can fly???? Now who's the one with magical powers now?
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