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Your favorite Character so far?

Jack.
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Alice Grove
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Jack's Uncle.
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Ardent.
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The Wind Turbine.
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The Poking Stick!
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The Silo!
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ALL OF THEM!
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Uh, what?
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Author Topic: Alice Grove MCDT - NEW COMIC! - October 2014  (Read 52483 times)

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #150 on: 07 Oct 2014, 08:59 »

(BTW... new comic's up... REFRESH!!)
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #151 on: 07 Oct 2014, 09:30 »

"My name is Alice Grove and that was attempt... God, I've lost count."

Heroes reference, just in case anyone didn't get it.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #152 on: 07 Oct 2014, 10:07 »

So my feeling was right: She didn't die. Still, the whole thing is something of a stretch. Of course, I'm still anxious to see how it develops.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #153 on: 07 Oct 2014, 10:16 »

She's part cat. Always lands on her feet, more or less.

And wow, actual dialogue!
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #154 on: 07 Oct 2014, 10:17 »

You were supposed to catch her guy. You aren't going to win the superheroine, ninja and/or robot girl by wincing.

Actually, you probably shouldn't catch robots, they're heavy.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #155 on: 07 Oct 2014, 10:24 »

He had my interest, but now he has my attention.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #157 on: 07 Oct 2014, 11:38 »

If BlondeEngineer is a Robot/AI/Android... I'm curious to know if this is indeed the same 'World' as QC... and if there'll be any crossover plotlines/characters.

That said, the significant physical drama and absence of extensive dialogue (Four words in fifteen panels!!) leads me to believe we're not in Kansas... er... Northampton anymore.

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #158 on: 07 Oct 2014, 12:00 »

We probably also not in Kansas.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #159 on: 07 Oct 2014, 13:09 »

We probably also not in Kansas.
Could be Kansas in another universe. Either the physical laws are different (cartoon physics?), or Alice is not human. But even if she is a milspec grade robot, that impact would cause damage.

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #160 on: 07 Oct 2014, 13:52 »

I very much hope that the two comics don't cross over, simply because a crossover would potentially lead to canon confusion and also could dilute the feel of one or the other comic (at the moment, they feel quite different).
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #161 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:10 »

It's weird, but just in the few panels I've seen, I get a more 'early thirties professional' than a 'mid-twenties college town' feel from the characters.

Could be 'cause one of 'em is apparently playing engineer on a wind turbine, duh.  :roll:
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #162 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:11 »

I think she's human (or at least humanoid), but has some degree of invulnerability.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #163 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:30 »

I think she's human (or at least humanoid), but has some degree of invulnerability.

However she did it, she's trying to hide it, given her 'fell not flew' statement. From that, I'm assuming that her 'fall' looked unnatural in someway to that guy. Anti-gravity coils, maybe? Hanners' robot sister/backup?
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #164 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:36 »

She's a Cyborg!!!!!

Either that. or there's a Sayan in her bloodline somewhere  :-D
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #165 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:38 »

I think she's human (or at least humanoid), but has some degree of invulnerability.

However she did it, she's trying to hide it, given her 'fell not flew' statement. From that, I'm assuming that her 'fall' looked unnatural in someway to that guy. Anti-gravity coils, maybe? Hanners' robot sister/backup?
Why do you think she's trying to hide anything? If she can't fly, but is invulnerable (or at least considerably more durable than most), she's telling the truth.

Either that. or there's a Saiyan in her bloodline somewhere  :-D
Or a Kryptonian :roll: (Superman wasn't always able to fly)
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #166 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:46 »

Because the guy specifically stated 'fly'. He didn't say 'invulnerable' but 'fly'. That suggested that the alleged fall looked wrong somehow.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #167 on: 07 Oct 2014, 14:50 »

Either that. or there's a Saiyan in her bloodline somewhere  :-D
Or a Kryptonian :roll: (Superman wasn't always able to fly)

Not even always on Earth - that's where "Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound" came from.
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« Reply #168 on: 07 Oct 2014, 15:07 »

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #169 on: 07 Oct 2014, 15:33 »

If she can fly, that would explain how she got up on top of the wind generator in the first place.
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« Reply #170 on: 07 Oct 2014, 15:40 »

Either that. or there's a Saiyan in her bloodline somewhere  :-D
Or a Kryptonian :roll: (Superman wasn't always able to fly)

Not even always on Earth - that's where "Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound" came from.
Right, that's what I was referring to.
Because the guy specifically stated 'fly'. He didn't say 'invulnerable' but 'fly'. That suggested that the alleged fall looked wrong somehow.
Right, and if she didn't fly but simply fell, then she wasn't hiding anything. If she knew she would be able to land, then she wouldn't fall like a fragile human would, but would adjust herself while falling to land on her feet. That being said...he wasn't looking while she fell, he was cringing and looking away.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #171 on: 07 Oct 2014, 18:25 »

And the first word is:

WHUD

Unless you count the Hah Hah Hah Hah Hah.
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« Reply #172 on: 07 Oct 2014, 18:40 »

.. So that's how this comic is gonna pan out, huh?
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« Reply #173 on: 07 Oct 2014, 18:41 »

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #174 on: 07 Oct 2014, 21:18 »

At least she didn't need a Doctor.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #175 on: 08 Oct 2014, 00:08 »

I'm not sure that something supernatural is explicitly stated. If she knew that she was somehow invulnerable, or had the power of flight, why would she be wearing a harness in the first place? If she is of average height, then might we assume that she is falling less than 5 meters? Although we do not see the tree line, we immediately assume that the previous panel shows a perfectly orthographic view of the turbine. She might only be falling from the height of a medium height tree when her tether breaks. You can absolutely be unscathed when falling from those heights.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #176 on: 08 Oct 2014, 02:35 »

I'm not sure that something supernatural is explicitly stated. If she knew that she was somehow invulnerable, or had the power of flight, why would she be wearing a harness in the first place? If she is of average height, then might we assume that she is falling less than 5 meters? Although we do not see the tree line, we immediately assume that the previous panel shows a perfectly orthographic view of the turbine. She might only be falling from the height of a medium height tree when her tether breaks. You can absolutely be unscathed when falling from those heights.

These are all valid points.

The harness thing can be hand-waved away as being 'keeping her cover'.

Commercial power-generation wind turbines are typically in the 300-foot height range but much smaller units exist and are in use, especially for one-building-only applications and the like. To be honest, that turbine didn't look much more than 10 meters (33 feet) at most. However, even that fall onto loose earth will leave Alice with an interesting selection of bruises and the possibility of long-bone compound fractures. I'd be shocked at her being able to stand up so quickly instead of just lying there, groaning in pain.

Another angle: Will we see a post-fall freak-out when Alice realises that, yes, she did just fall a considerable distance and isn't even slightly hurt? She wouldn't be the first character in the history of fiction who only learnt that they were special when dire circumstance brought their special talents out of subconscious inhibition.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #177 on: 08 Oct 2014, 06:06 »

I estimated the total height to 60 meters, and 30 meters from where the rope snapped, based on Alice's size compared to the turbine. Admittedly, the perspective makes this calculation imprecise, but it is a typical medium size wind turbine. Something supernatural is going on, or it might just be Arthur C. Clarke's 3rd law kicking in:
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EDIT: Also, the two people we have seen so far, appear to be in their thirties. We might expect them to be married (not necessarily to each other), and with children. They are probably maintenance workers on the wind turbine, or perhaps saboteurs that (for some reason) do not like wind turbines. Typically, wind turbines are positioned on top of hills, distant from any habitation. I would guess they have a car somewhere, but why did they not drive all the way up to the turbine?

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #178 on: 08 Oct 2014, 07:25 »

Okay - Scenario Building.

Alice and the as-yet-unnamed guy are power workers who were engaged in maintenance on one of the turbines. Their van/pick-up is parked out-of-sight (these sites can be huge and there might be a maintenance building somewhere where they left the vehicle before walking over to the turbine needing work). Alice's companion went into the woods to look for something - maybe a maintenance cover that either blew off in a storm (it happens) or was blown off by debris coming out when the turbine overheated and seized up due to extremely high revs (also happens). He comes back just in time to see Alice's harness cable snap.
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« Reply #179 on: 08 Oct 2014, 11:58 »

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« Reply #180 on: 08 Oct 2014, 12:01 »

Maybe this is taking place in the Matrix and there was no windmill. 
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« Reply #181 on: 08 Oct 2014, 12:26 »

Maybe this is taking place in the Matrix and there was no windmill. 

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #182 on: 08 Oct 2014, 13:02 »

Also, the two people we have seen so far, appear to be in their thirties.
I honestly have no idea how you can determine their age from this art style. Not a complaint, but you seem certain about this and I'm wondering how.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #183 on: 08 Oct 2014, 14:49 »

He comes back just in time to see Alice's harness cable snap.

Why running as fast as he can?
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« Reply #184 on: 08 Oct 2014, 15:08 »

He wants to catch her before she leaves in order to propose to her.
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« Reply #185 on: 08 Oct 2014, 15:49 »

She might say yes, we've already seen that she's fallen for him :claireface:
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« Reply #186 on: 08 Oct 2014, 15:59 »

She might say yes, we've already seen that she's fallen for him :claireface:

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« Reply #187 on: 08 Oct 2014, 21:13 »

Also, the two people we have seen so far, appear to be in their thirties.
I honestly have no idea how you can determine their age from this art style. Not a complaint, but you seem certain about this and I'm wondering how.
Just a feeling. Something about their eyes, I guess.

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« Reply #188 on: 08 Oct 2014, 21:21 »

Mooski, I approve of Disapproving Jimbo. 

Also, she landed like a superhero, with the fist on the ground thing.  Ergo, she is probably a superhero.  Or super human, if she has yet to start fighting crime. 

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« Reply #189 on: 08 Oct 2014, 21:25 »

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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #190 on: 08 Oct 2014, 23:33 »

He comes back just in time to see Alice's harness cable snap.

Why running as fast as he can?

It's pretty clear that something has happened or he has found something that she needs to come and see now, not later. Hence her descent.
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« Reply #191 on: 09 Oct 2014, 03:39 »

Maybe this is taking place in the Matrix and there was no windmill.

Not so strange that she fell, then.
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« Reply #192 on: 09 Oct 2014, 05:18 »

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Seemed appropriate.

Also, as long as we're in pure speculation land, the use of the sound effect WHUD suggests (to me, anyway) something that is very hard hitting something else that is very hard.  She may have almost flown, but she's made of sterner stuff than your average human.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #193 on: 09 Oct 2014, 10:34 »

WHUD is an appropriate sound for dropping a pork roast or flank steak onto the kitchen counter but then again it would not being going all that fast.
Maybe a WHUMP is a bit more meaty sound?

What would be the correct  onomatopoeia [pl] for a 68kg bag of mostly water hitting various solid and semi solid surfaces at speed?
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« Reply #194 on: 09 Oct 2014, 10:39 »

Yeah, as silly as it sounds, WHUMP more sounds like a human hitting the ground, WHUD sounds like a more solid object. 

I guess I'd have gone with SPLAT, but obviously she didn't go SPLAT.

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« Reply #195 on: 09 Oct 2014, 10:41 »

I think more of a WHAP sound.  Kind of like the sound of a belly flop from the high dive but far more intense.
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« Reply #196 on: 09 Oct 2014, 10:46 »

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Yeah WHAP is a kind of wet yet dull slap, like a wet towel sound.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #197 on: 09 Oct 2014, 14:55 »

I take WHUD to be a portmanteau of WHAM and THUD.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #198 on: 09 Oct 2014, 14:59 »

WHUD is an appropriate sound for dropping a pork roast or flank steak onto the kitchen counter but then again it would not being going all that fast.
Maybe a WHUMP is a bit more meaty sound?

What would be the correct  onomatopoeia [pl] for a 68kg bag of mostly water hitting various solid and semi solid surfaces at speed?

Noononononono. Whud is the noise that giant hammer makes.
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Re: Alice Grove CDT - NEW COMIC!
« Reply #199 on: 09 Oct 2014, 15:01 »

WHUD is the sound that Superman makes when he lands quickly without pulling up.
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