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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2700 on: 01 Aug 2016, 21:49 »

Is Mike showing actual concern in the last panel?
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2701 on: 01 Aug 2016, 23:19 »

The thing about Mike is that there is no way to dissuade him from his behaviour. He doesn't respond to any kind of reinforcement. In the Walkyverse, he carried on shooting hateful, puerile taunts even after being beaten to a bloody pulp one or two times! He literally knows and has no other way of functioning in a social context.

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2702 on: 02 Aug 2016, 05:44 »

Ethan really seems to be amazingly dim in DoA... Not only is he missing the incredibly obvious fact that Danny wants to get with him (though it could be argued he knows, just doesn't know what to do with that information). He has known Mike for some time and he's just now understanding what a horrible person he is? I mean really? It's not like Mike ever even tries to hide it, or be at all subtle.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2703 on: 02 Aug 2016, 07:56 »

He knows that Danny wants to get with him, but he's deliberately ignoring it to avoid angering Amber (good luck with that...).
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2704 on: 02 Aug 2016, 10:51 »

Danny has outright, to Ethan's face, expressed a desire to be powdered up and put into Ethan's bathwater.

Yeah, Ethan knows.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2705 on: 02 Aug 2016, 16:43 »

On the alt-text, I suppose Ethan's entry is better than Walky's: "Ass that won't quit farting."
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2706 on: 02 Aug 2016, 16:50 »

Mike's expression in the last panel intrigues me. It's almost disgusted.

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2707 on: 02 Aug 2016, 16:53 »

Or fearful.

Remember,  Ethan outmasses him and could quite easily pound him flat.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2708 on: 02 Aug 2016, 16:59 »

I'm confident Mike is not threatened by Ethan at all. He's expressed disliking Ethan's self-destructive behaviour before and his asking of Mike's file gave a chance to once again be mocked for it. Although Mike is covering the screen too.

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2709 on: 02 Aug 2016, 21:35 »

No, clearly Mike does not fear Ethan. If he feared Ethan, he would take at least a second before deciding to bang him.

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2710 on: 02 Aug 2016, 23:19 »

Remember,  Ethan outmasses him and could quite easily pound him flat.

Mike isn't daunted by physical risk or even the possibility of injury. If he's anything like his Walkyverse counterpart, there's a nasty edge of nihilistic sado-masochism about him that makes him enjoy people hurting him and being cruel to him as validating his personal philosophy of a world without good. He can and will keep on spitting barbs even whilst someone is beating him into a pulp because there is nothing that will strip him of his disdain for the world.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2711 on: 03 Aug 2016, 00:26 »

I'm just here to say that I love any strip involving Mike.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2712 on: 03 Aug 2016, 01:18 »

Is Mike showing actual concern in the last panel?

He'll deny it but, catch him unawares and he will respond in a way that indicates that there are some people who, on a subconscius level at least, he cares about. Ethan seems to be one of them.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2713 on: 03 Aug 2016, 05:06 »

Remember,  Ethan outmasses him and could quite easily pound him flat.

Mike isn't daunted by physical risk or even the possibility of injury. If he's anything like his Walkyverse counterpart, there's a nasty edge of nihilistic sado-masochism about him that makes him enjoy people hurting him and being cruel to him as validating his personal philosophy of a world without good. He can and will keep on spitting barbs even whilst someone is beating him into a pulp because there is nothing that will strip him of his disdain for the world.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2714 on: 03 Aug 2016, 15:02 »

Why does Mike think he could seduce Ethan?
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2715 on: 03 Aug 2016, 16:30 »

Despicable little shit

He'd probably vote for Trump too just for the hell of it.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2716 on: 03 Aug 2016, 21:27 »

Although to be fair, by the time the day after the first Monday in November* comes around, it could very well be time for the 2024 election.

*To people outside of the States, yes, that is when Election Day is every year. It's usually the first Tuesday, but once in a while it's the second Tuesday. It's whatever day between November 2-8 lands on a Tuesday. I have no fucking idea why.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2717 on: 03 Aug 2016, 23:30 »

Why does Mike think he could seduce Ethan?

I think that he's pretty confident in his ability to judge and manipulate human psychology. That's always been his strongest weapon.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2718 on: 04 Aug 2016, 08:06 »

Regarding Dina:

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2719 on: 04 Aug 2016, 13:53 »

Although to be fair, by the time the day after the first Monday in November* comes around, it could very well be time for the 2024 election.

*To people outside of the States, yes, that is when Election Day is every year. It's usually the first Tuesday, but once in a while it's the second Tuesday. It's whatever day between November 2-8 lands on a Tuesday. I have no fucking idea why.

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Why the first Tuesday after the first Monday? Lawmakers wanted to prevent election day from falling on the first of November for two reasons. First, November 1st is All Saints Day, a Holy Day of Obligation for Roman Catholics. Second, most merchants were in the habit of doing their books from the preceding month on the 1st. Apparently, Congress was worried that the economic success or failure of the previous month might prove an undue influence on the vote!
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Why Tuesday? Since most residents of rural America had to travel a significant distance to the county seat in order to vote, Monday was not considered reasonable since many people would need to begin travel on Sunday. This would, of course, have conflicted with Church services and Sunday worship.

tl;dr: avoiding religious conflicts

That'll also be why Election Day can't really be put on a weekend, and why it really should be made a national holiday.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2720 on: 04 Aug 2016, 15:13 »

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2721 on: 05 Aug 2016, 16:30 »

And she's two Utah Raptors tall  :-D
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2722 on: 05 Aug 2016, 21:15 »

Shit, is Becky's mom's suicide about to jump from theory to canon?
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2723 on: 05 Aug 2016, 21:16 »

I'm pretty sure it's been canon since the break-in storyline.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2724 on: 05 Aug 2016, 21:22 »

Wait, what? Did I miss a strip? I thought it was only implied.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2725 on: 05 Aug 2016, 21:29 »

During the break-in, all we knew for sure of is an attempt.  Depending on the pills, internal organs could have been trashed to the point where she didn't die immediately, and had a lingering death.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2726 on: 06 Aug 2016, 06:18 »

As a reminder, Ross has said that 'The Devil took' Becky's mom. That particular phrase combined with his belief system certainly shouted out to me that she did something his religion didn't approve over. If she had just died to cancer, it would have been something like 'God called her home'.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2727 on: 07 Aug 2016, 16:12 »

Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder

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« Reply #2728 on: 08 Aug 2016, 15:34 »

Don't make her go all T-Rex on ya Walky
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2729 on: 08 Aug 2016, 20:39 »

Good lord, Dina, I'm sure I would be friends with you, if only for the fact I'd re-learn all the dinosaur knowledge I once had, and update what has since been found to be incorrect.
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« Reply #2730 on: 09 Aug 2016, 17:14 »

Dina would make an excellent Infiltration Agent

And I agree with her on Beckys message Ruth
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2731 on: 10 Aug 2016, 15:47 »

I think Dorothy's too nice a person to know the way to Hell anyway
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2732 on: 10 Aug 2016, 18:41 »

Assuming that she's from the Midwest, I'm pretty sure that she'd have a general idea of how to get to Hell.  Michigan isn't all that far away from Indiana after all.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2733 on: 11 Aug 2016, 00:19 »

This is one of those nuanced characterisations that DMW can be very good at sometimes. Walky normally comes across as feckless, lazy and preferring to pretend to be stupid because that's less effort and seems to get him what he wants far more easily than using his brain would. However, if something happens that concerns someone he cares about, the better man inside starts coming out. He's clearly very bitter that someone he trusted to care for his surrogate sister failed him so totally.

Hopefully, this will teach him the importance of seeing things through to the end himself and not simply hoping that (for the first time in ever) the 'authorities' will sort everything out properly without you riding herd on them to stop them from messing up. Maybe he'll finally learn to step up and take personal responsibility.

Just to add, nuance is something that is going to take Joyce a very long time to learn. She's only just come to terms with the fact  that there may be more than one moral/ethical point of view in the world; attempting to navigate through the grey areas that lie between them is probably something that is still far out of her reach.
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« Reply #2734 on: 11 Aug 2016, 04:29 »

Interesting that Walky views Ruth as an adult. Isn't she only a year older?
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« Reply #2735 on: 11 Aug 2016, 05:30 »

I suppose it's a response to her position of authority. Authority figure = adult figure, in his mind at least. It isn't a completely unlikley mindset for a fairly-sheltered and spoiled 18-year-old to have.
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« Reply #2736 on: 11 Aug 2016, 16:16 »

Not sure if I'm reading him right, but Hank looks like he wants to belt Walky upside his head.


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« Reply #2737 on: 12 Aug 2016, 04:28 »

I never took Hank to be the violent type.
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« Reply #2738 on: 12 Aug 2016, 04:31 »

Not sure if I'm reading him right, but Hank looks like he wants to belt Walky upside his head.

I think that he was just a bit weirded out by the way Walky was talking and was maybe more than a little worried about this insight into the amount of drama there is constantly going down in Read Hall. That leads into today's strip when he basically begs her to run whilst she still can. :wink:
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« Reply #2739 on: 12 Aug 2016, 15:18 »

I never took Hank to be the violent type.

I don't think he's really violent, but there must be occasions where he wishes or wants to Gibbssmack someone.

And I like the fact that, despite everything, Joyce feels secure enough among her friends to consider it home.
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« Reply #2740 on: 12 Aug 2016, 15:26 »

I don't think that he's being given enough credit here (the Patreon posts are much kinder) .  Despite Joycemum going all "drag her out and take her home", Joycedad is simply offering her an out, were things to get too crazy.   She, despite everything she went through (attempted rape, kidnappings, having a gun pointed at her, and serious shocks to her belief system) is actually home.  Hank understands that, and I think, is glad that Joyce said what she did.
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« Reply #2741 on: 14 Aug 2016, 14:20 »

That was nice of Hank

And I think she would have been too Becky
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« Reply #2742 on: 14 Aug 2016, 19:24 »

Becky was wrong. She did want that. Well done, Joyce's dad. Well done.
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« Reply #2743 on: 15 Aug 2016, 13:08 »

The freedom to study
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« Reply #2744 on: 16 Aug 2016, 16:20 »

Aaannd

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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2745 on: 16 Aug 2016, 19:16 »

It isn't exactly like Ruth opened about her home situation to anyone mind you. Not that it makes it any less a shit thing to do outing Ruth and Billie. Bending Billie's ear about the situation and getting her to do something would have been better than forcibly dragging her there. And there is the other hand that Billie was just a band-aid on a gaping, septic wound.  Better than nothing, but really not doing fixing the problem. And worse, having the illusion of help was still going to kill Ruth in the long run. It just might take her slightly longer to get there. Now that she's been forced to get help hopefully she can address her issues. It's one of the eternal questions. At what point do you go against someone's wishes and force help that they need on them?
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2746 on: 17 Aug 2016, 15:15 »

Once Carla heard that Ruth wanted to die from Ruth, was doing nothing actually an option? I would say no.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2747 on: 17 Aug 2016, 15:46 »

I hafta agree MoM, but I think Carla was caught between a rock and a hard place and really didn't have all the information.

One hopes some good can come out of this and both Billie and Ruth can find some sort of decent closure and help.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2748 on: 17 Aug 2016, 19:44 »

Doing nothing wasn't an option, but that doesn't mean that the option she did choose was the right one.
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Re: Damn you, Willis! (Dumbing of Age)
« Reply #2749 on: 18 Aug 2016, 05:19 »

Forcibly outing someone is never the right option. Especially when doing so gets a person fired and thrown from their home. Even without the dangerous situation of her home life Carla should have known that Ruth getting fired was going to happen. She just didn't care. She wanted to stop worrying about it, so she took the most direct method of dealing with it, without care about how it would affect others. Her intentions were good. Her method of handling it was poor. To the point of being as bad as the problem she was trying to fix. Which is pretty much in alignment of what we know about her character.

I don't think that much anyone cares that Ruth and Billie were together. Even Mary seemed less disgusted by it and more interested in how she could use their situation to her advantage. When I refer to 'outing' I'm really talking about making it public knowledge that the RA was romantically/sexually involved with one of her charges. Which is a serious rules violation.
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