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What do we have left to look forward to?

Gloomy Tai at the library
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Dora trying to make up with her GF
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Hannelore seeking vengeance on Juicy
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Marigold seeking medical aid
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Pintsize having an existential crisis
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Faye learning that 'creepy' is a state of mind
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #550 on: 13 Mar 2015, 13:53 »

I think Neko has it.  Faye HAS done this before.  "Screw you guys, I'm leaving."  And here she is now, adrift with no anchor, no boyfriend, no husband, no dogs, no cats, no robots...  truly ready to go anywhere in the world.

And let's hope she gets to it and toddles her happy butt off into the Misery Sunset.

I need some more popcorn.  I love happy endings.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #551 on: 13 Mar 2015, 13:59 »

Future Plot I'd Like to See
It's a long weekend and Marten invites Claire to stay over for those three nights and four days. Will Faye be able to handle it? Will Pintsize be able to handle it?

no, benrg, bloody hell no. three nights and four days? how long would that take in the comic? i'd have to take a break from reading, there is no way I could stand that much claire.



You know, your near-hysterical dislike of Claire, initially funny in a sad way, is just becoming tiresome.

that's a terrible shame for you. i'm sure you can point to examples of and explain why you characterise my perfectly acceptable dislike of claire as near-hysterical. hyperbole perhaps? something to do with post count? I really don't know why someone would do that.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #552 on: 13 Mar 2015, 14:08 »

*double checks your posts*

I mean, one out of five of your posts specifically mentions you disliking Claire. More than that if you only look at what you post in the QC section.

You literally made a post to the effect of 'today's comic was meh, but woohoo, no Claire!'

It's probably more to do with the lack of other opinions you've given than it is about you in other ways. There's only so many times you can say your opinion before we get tired of hearing it. 
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #553 on: 13 Mar 2015, 14:30 »

(mod)Please talk about the comic and not each other. (/mod)
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #554 on: 13 Mar 2015, 14:58 »

This be a perfect spot for a time-jump. I'll be surprised if there was one, but it'd work so well.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #555 on: 13 Mar 2015, 15:38 »

This be a perfect spot for a time-jump. I'll be surprised if there was one, but it'd work so well.

It was two years since the robot revolution. Everyone Marten loved was either killed or turned into mindless cyborg slaves. But he would survive no matter what. Survive and have his vengeance.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #556 on: 13 Mar 2015, 15:49 »

This be a perfect spot for a time-jump. I'll be surprised if there was one, but it'd work so well.

It was two years since the robot revolution. Everyone Marten loved was either killed or turned into mindless cyborg slaves. But he would survive no matter what. Survive and have his vengeance.
*another time skip*
It's been four years since Marten had his final revenge against the robot rulers of Earth, and society was finally calming down and settling into a preindustrial state. A small contingent of humans kept technology alive in orbit, but the remainder went about agrarian lives. Penelope, now living under a pseudonym, becomes the ruler of this society through her use of technology, until a weird blue boy and floating girl show up...
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #557 on: 13 Mar 2015, 15:56 »

SPOILER: The weird blue boy is actually Pintsize in a new chassis.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #558 on: 13 Mar 2015, 16:19 »

Future Plot I'd Like to See
It's a long weekend and Marten invites Claire to stay over for those three nights and four days. Will Faye be able to handle it? Will Pintsize be able to handle it?

no, benrg, bloody hell no. three nights and four days? how long would that take in the comic? i'd have to take a break from reading, there is no way I could stand that much claire.

I like Claire (and Marten), but there's no way I could deal with that large a dosage of sweetness. My teeth are rotting just thinking about it.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #559 on: 13 Mar 2015, 16:24 »

Just wanted to add that my call for next week is Faye at the support group, possibly mixed with some fall-out - maybe Dora visiting Marten to pour our her heart to him or something similar. Jeph wouldn't have posted such an emotionally striking strip as he had today if he didn't want there to be fall-out amongst the characters.

Wait, so you're not calling for a time-jump?  But aren't you always calling for a time-jump?  What's going on?  You disappoint me, sir!  :-)

This be a perfect spot for a time-jump. I'll be surprised if there was one, but it'd work so well.

Aha, there it is.

I was thinking the same thing earlier today.  Honestly, this comic does feel like a bit of An Ending, and it wouldn't hurt if Monday's strip opened up several weeks later, with Faye attending her third or fourth group session, filling in the other attendees on what progress (or lack thereof) she's been making lately, especially on the art and job fronts.  It would save the whole dull getting-to-know-you bit we would otherwise see from her first group session--and really, why would we need to see that, when we already know what Faye has gone through?  A time-jump would advance the story a heck of a lot better.  Or not.  Just a thought.

(And it'll get us past the look-how-cute-they-are stage of Marten and Claire's relationship.  Everyone's a winner!)

Future Plot I'd Like to See
It's a long weekend and Marten invites Claire to stay over for those three nights and four days. Will Faye be able to handle it? Will Pintsize be able to handle it?

I still think at some point Pintsize should confront Claire over whatever secret Marten's keeping from him ("Is it donkey porn?  Were you in donkey porn?  AM I GOING TO HAVE TO DELETE THESE FILES?!"), then, on finding out the truth, end up getting pissed at Marten for not trusting him to have certain boundaries about what he mocks people for.  Because I still think Pintsize knows what he can and can't dish out, and doesn't need Marten to tell him that Claire's trans status is off-limits--and I think Claire can hold her own, anyway.  It would be fun to see them actually interacting without the threat of Marten looming over the picture. 

Or, y'know, Pintsize can just stay in the background and never develop further as a character.  It's all good.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #560 on: 13 Mar 2015, 16:26 »

I don't think this is the beginning of the end for the comic, but we have gotten past the end of the beginning.
Here's the thing, Coffee of Doom will always have a place in the lives of most of the cast. It's a definite part of the social circle, even if some people are no longer a part of it. Hanners is someone who could be considered a top tier cast member and it is still her place of employment. Marten is still employed at SMIF library along with Tai and CoD is within walking distance.

Really, the only way Coffee of Doom would disappear would be if it burned down to the ground and Dora deciding she should try her luck in Patagonia.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #561 on: 13 Mar 2015, 17:17 »

SPOILER: The weird blue boy is actually Pintsize in a new chassis.

Would explain the fixation with tails.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #562 on: 13 Mar 2015, 17:38 »

Is it completely inappropriate that I want this to be the song playing in the background as Faye walks out of Coffee of Doom?


Good idea but may I please suggest this version? It's the only way I hear the song anymore...

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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #563 on: 13 Mar 2015, 17:47 »


I like that one for this feeling too. I'm also reminded of the best moment of Lynyrd Skynyrd of all bands...

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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #564 on: 13 Mar 2015, 19:55 »

Really, the only way Coffee of Doom would disappear would be if it burned down to the ground and Dora deciding she should try her luck in Patagonia.

What if Faye's old toaster is still in town and tries to avenge her by breaking into CoD and doing what it did to her apartment? "The stupid toaster was just out to get me", she said. It might try to make it up to her in exactly the wrong way.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #565 on: 13 Mar 2015, 20:06 »

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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #566 on: 13 Mar 2015, 22:07 »

I haven't read any manga, but I'm happy to know I'm not alone in my dislike of the captioning. Is the angry X in manga a stylised frown, or has it become more of a shortcut to show that a character is angry? Or both? (Edited because managa isn't a thing).

It was originally meant to be a vein popping out --- but now it has become a symbol that can appear anywhere. (On hair, the metal skin of a robot...)
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #567 on: 14 Mar 2015, 00:35 »

CoD :
End of an era for Faye, but I don't think it's the end of CoD in the comic. Dora and Hanners are both major cast members, and I suspect that when Faye finds a new life, whether it's getting a job or  starting a welding/sculpture career, gets some help from the group or her therapist, and finally has that conversation with Dora-the-friend, even she will return to CoD to hang out with her friends and make sarcastic remarks.

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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #568 on: 14 Mar 2015, 04:48 »

People are really reading a LOT into this. COD is the main location of the comic and features numerous main and background characters there. I think the significance of this comic is entirely Faye leaving it, nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #569 on: 14 Mar 2015, 06:04 »

MOOD FO EEFFOC  :mrgreen:
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #570 on: 14 Mar 2015, 10:15 »

What if Faye's old toaster is still in town and tries to avenge her by breaking into CoD and doing what it did to her apartment? "The stupid toaster was just out to get me", she said. It might try to make it up to her in exactly the wrong way.

It would go down like this:
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #571 on: 14 Mar 2015, 13:04 »

PLOT TWIST: May is Faye's old toaster.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #572 on: 14 Mar 2015, 14:45 »

PLOT TWIST TWIST: May is Faye's new toaster.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #573 on: 14 Mar 2015, 18:50 »

Is it completely inappropriate that I want this to be the song playing in the background as Faye walks out of Coffee of Doom?


Wrong webcomic.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #575 on: 14 Mar 2015, 20:39 »

I would think that Faye isn't going to permanently give up her metalwork, so... where's she going to do it in the future? My money is on the Deathmole practice space.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #576 on: 14 Mar 2015, 20:45 »

I would think that Faye isn't going to permanently give up her metalwork, so... where's she going to do it in the future? My money is on the Deathmole practice space.

I think that's likely. I could see Amir getting really excited about that, too, asking her to make stuff for live performances
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #577 on: 14 Mar 2015, 20:58 »

Eh, I'm not so sure. Unless it's a large space with a concrete floor, it'd be a fire hazard.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #578 on: 14 Mar 2015, 21:00 »

Isn't it canonically a warehouse? Wouldn't that fit those requirements? At the very least, it would fit better than the basement of a random coffeehouse, I should think
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #579 on: 14 Mar 2015, 21:05 »

Is it a warehouse? I thought it was just an unfinished space in a building somewhere. As for the basement of CoD, it'd still be a concrete floor, and the space would be sufficient judging by how big the shop is. The sparks generated from the torch generally fall more down than out.

I could totally be wrong, though.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #580 on: 14 Mar 2015, 21:17 »

I presume the perspective in Friday's cartoon was from the counter looking out to the street.  To me I suddenly saw CoD like a branch of Subway where people queue for takeaway, with only a couple of uncomfortable places to sit.  My opinion of Dora's ability to run her business while keeping in with her friends is boosted by this comic.  I'd always pictured the place as the café in Friends, or like one of the old bookshops with sofas and coffee.  Looking back though this is my own mistake, Jeph never shows the cast huddled over a mug, taking up floor space, putting the world to rights. Dora manages to keep people including her friends coming in to pay proper money to carry away paper containers of hot brown water and sugary bread. I like her more and more (especially as she gave free basement space to Faye AND spiders!)
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #581 on: 14 Mar 2015, 21:20 »

Faye welds in the library basement. Drama unfolds between her and Claire when she accidentally burns down the place.

Incidentally, Tai escapes the fire just in the nick of time, not having noticed the fire immediately because she's used to being surrounded by smoke.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #582 on: 15 Mar 2015, 02:50 »

I presume the perspective in Friday's cartoon was from the counter looking out to the street.

Er, the counter's right there in the picture on the right (as drawn).  There's a crude layout map in the wiki:



The hedge (which has a name which I can't remember) is missing though, and the proportions are off.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #583 on: 15 Mar 2015, 02:59 »

I'm really, really late but haven't really had the time to read/think about the comic 'till now.

a) I like the perspective! It's a first, and finally I have an image in my head how the CoD looks like, not just the places to sit or the counter or the window.

b) I agree with several posters who mentioned that they didn't like the overcaptioning.. It would have been fine without.

c) I like the feel of it. Faye's leaving the place, not angry this time, but forever. It feels like an end, but more like  a beginning - her art and skills can open doors for her that she didn't  even notice while working at the CoD.

d) Dora/Faye reconciliation: well, again, I hope it's not too soon. Faye at least has things to apologise for, and I think Dora too (not for firing Faye -not starting that discussion again - , but for how she did it). I hope Faye leaves the CoD behind - she didn't deserve to be fired like this. She's been a valuable, motivated employee for the longest time and didn't deserve to be tossed aside like trash. I hope she finds a place where her prickly personality isn't an issue (because she works alone or with people who give as good as they get) and where her skills are valued.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #584 on: 15 Mar 2015, 03:15 »

I presume the perspective in Friday's cartoon was from the counter looking out to the street.

Er, the counter's right there in the picture on the right (as drawn).  There's a crude layout map in the wiki:

The hedge (which has a name which I can't remember) is missing though, and the proportions are off.

Thanks for that  - we'd call that a mud-map in Australia; enough to let you find your way around.  I've enjoyed the comic for a year now, and I've only just discovered this social side to it.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #585 on: 15 Mar 2015, 09:51 »

I presume the perspective in Friday's cartoon was from the counter looking out to the street.

Er, the counter's right there in the picture on the right (as drawn).  There's a crude layout map in the wiki:

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The hedge (which has a name which I can't remember) is missing though, and the proportions are off.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #586 on: 15 Mar 2015, 10:29 »


Quote from: Energia link=topic=30538.msg1310916#msg1310916

Thanks for that  - we'd call that a mud-map in Australia; enough to let you find your way around.  I've enjoyed the comic for a year now, and I've only just discovered this social side to it.

Yeah, it's been determined since I made that up that the cafe is narrower and a bit longer. Faye was probably looking at the front of the store from the doorway to the back room - ironically, where Dora caught her drinking.

It also appears that there is actually only the one table, instead of the three I had pictured.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #587 on: 15 Mar 2015, 11:36 »

PLOT TWIST TWIST: May is Faye's new toaster.

Next, she'll teach Emily how to upload herself into a toaster.

End of comic: EVERYONE IS A TOASTER.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #588 on: 15 Mar 2015, 12:52 »

Frakin' Cylons
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #589 on: 15 Mar 2015, 13:00 »

Frakin' Cylons

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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #590 on: 15 Mar 2015, 15:29 »


Quote from: Energia link=topic=30538.msg1310916#msg1310916

Thanks for that  - we'd call that a mud-map in Australia; enough to let you find your way around.  I've enjoyed the comic for a year now, and I've only just discovered this social side to it.

Yeah, it's been determined since I made that up that the cafe is narrower and a bit longer. Faye was probably looking at the front of the store from the doorway to the back room - ironically, where Dora caught her drinking.

It also appears that there is actually only the one table, instead of the three I had pictured.

There's actually at least two tables there. You can see a bit of another one in the very bottom left corner of the frame. If we go by the mud map, it looks as though she's standing approximately in the middle of the shop, if the machines on the right line up with said map (we see neither the baked goods case in-frame, nor the grinder, which would take up a fair amount of space combined). So it's still very possible that there's 3 tables there.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #591 on: 15 Mar 2015, 15:41 »


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Thanks for that  - we'd call that a mud-map in Australia; enough to let you find your way around.  I've enjoyed the comic for a year now, and I've only just discovered this social side to it.

Yeah, it's been determined since I made that up that the cafe is narrower and a bit longer. Faye was probably looking at the front of the store from the doorway to the back room - ironically, where Dora caught her drinking.

It also appears that there is actually only the one table, instead of the three I had pictured.

There's an overhead shot that has the entire crew in CoD. Not sure if it's one of Jeph's or a guest comic, but it's from within the last year or so, I think (my archive skills aren't that great). There are multiple tables in that shot (and it does show the narrower/longer layout that you mention).
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #592 on: 15 Mar 2015, 18:48 »

All this talk about BSG, and I'm left thinking that Sven would make a good Gaius Baltar.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #593 on: 15 Mar 2015, 18:54 »

All this talk about BSG, and I'm left thinking that Sven would make a good Gaius Baltar.

I don't think he's nearly so prophesaic, or for that matter as much messianical. Ignore Baltar's true purpose, he definitely felt like Paul in later seasons, and he definitely thought he was a messiah in earlier seasons
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #594 on: 15 Mar 2015, 19:21 »

I was referring more to appearance and general attitude before everything went to shit. Basically, Baltar before the bombs fell.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #595 on: 15 Mar 2015, 20:18 »

I was referring more to appearance and general attitude before everything went to shit. Basically, Baltar before the bombs fell.

Oh yeah, agree 140% in that case.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #596 on: 16 Mar 2015, 04:28 »

Baltar before the bombs fell.

Sounds like it should be a phrase in Tamarian.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #597 on: 16 Mar 2015, 07:15 »

I was referring more to appearance and general attitude before everything went to shit. Basically, Baltar before the bombs fell.

Oh yeah, agree 140% in that case.

He doesn't look a bit like John Colicos.
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Re: WCDT 2912 to 2916 (9-13 March 2015)
« Reply #598 on: 16 Mar 2015, 07:45 »

I was referring more to appearance and general attitude before everything went to shit. Basically, Baltar before the bombs fell.

Oh yeah, agree 140% in that case.

He doesn't look a bit like John Colicos.

Gaius, not Count Baltar
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