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[traroth]

New Comic Up!

You know, having taken a moment to think about it, this is the moment for which Jeph created the character of Tilly. Someone he can have Claire bounce off of indefinitely. Marten is happy that he's found a friend for his GF who shares her interests. Hannelore hopes that Tilly will be sufficiently distracted to keep them out of her way.

Panel 4 really makes me wonder if Tilly is about to explode with glee! Seriously, she's on an escalating excitement rebound reaction!

Just wait until Brun enters that game...

[oeoek]

Is there any way we can shove the forum pun jar into the comic? We might be able to take a forum cruise with the proceeds...
(waiting for Brun to join in)

(edit: crap, thwarted by faster keyboarder)

[Bad Superman]

Me, talking in that raspy Rorschach-voice:
"The accumulated incidents of unwanted intrusion and desperate attempts at being funny will foam up about their waist and a crappy character will look up and shout 'Like me!'... and I'll whisper 'no.' "

[JoeCovenant]

My idea of QC Hell.
Claire and Taffy (WE CAN USE THAT NAME NOW!) being the focus of a strip...

Ohh...

OH !!!

(Now, I'm sure you are aware I can't bare the whole shipping stuff... But... maybe there's a way out...
Claire and Taffy hit it off SO much... they become an item! (And vanish off the face of the strip!)

Two birds - one stone!
Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.....!!!

[Is it cold in here?]

If Tilly looks at the expressions Hannelore has had on her face, there is only one thing they can do if they're a DHB.

[TinPenguin]

District Health Board? Dihydroxybenzene? Deutscher Handballbund?

[Marco]

District Health Board? Dihydroxybenzene? Deutscher Handballbund?

http://www.dhb.com.br/

[Bad Superman]

Decent Human Being?

[BenRG]

If Tilly looks at the expressions Hannelore has had on her face, there is only one thing they can do if they're a DHB.

FWIW, I think that Tilly is fooling themselves on this matter. They're telling themselves: "After I show my worth, all sins will be forgiven and Ms Ellicott-Chatham will be glad to have me!" I honestly think that they'll be heartbroken if and when Hannelore tells them, frankly, why she doesn't want them to continue.

[TheEvilDog]

Okay, we're now starting to get into "Teeth pulling" levels of tedium with this story arc.

I mean, what are Claire and Marten doing there? Did they pop round for a coffee and just happen to meet Tilly? Did Hanners invite them over to distract her PA so she could get some work done in peace? I mean, there's nothing to set up the meeting of Claire and Tilly, it's just happening.

The comics from yesterday and today make me wonder are we seeing a rapid rush to finish the story because its petering out or is Jeph trying to get Tilly accepted by the rest of Hanners' circle of friends? Guess we'll find out Friday.

[Cornelius]

The comics from yesterday and today make me wonder are we seeing a rapid rush to finish the story because its petering out or is Jeph trying to get Tilly accepted by the rest of Hanners' circle of friends? Guess we'll find out Friday.

I'm not sure - to me it seems that it is the quick round of acceptance. Although, I do think that Tilly'll be dismissed.

I honestly think that they'll be heartbroken if and when Hannelore tells them, frankly, why she doesn't want them to continue.

I do agree there; I still think they're genuinely trying their oblivious best.

(Now, I'm sure you are aware I can't bare the whole shipping stuff... But... maybe there's a way out...
Claire and Taffy hit it off SO much... they become an item! (And vanish off the face of the strip!)

That's exactly what I thought when I saw today's comic. What with the hinted tensions between Claire and Marten...

[gopher]

Had a thought. Now that the excellent Alice Grove is complete maybe move Brun, Claire and Tilly to their own strip where Mr Jaques can exercise his pun muscles and people who enjoy that kind of thing can read it?

[Timemaster]

God, I love this! 

Claire and Tilly really hit it off. How to call it?
Clailly? Tillaire? Claffy? Taffilly? 

TM

[Welu]

I love Claire and Tilly's interaction in this strip. I do want to hear more from Hanners soon though. She might perk up more at the end of the 48 hours.

[dutchrvl]

Okay, we're now starting to get into "Teeth pulling" levels of tedium with this story arc.

I mean, what are Claire and Marten doing there? Did they pop round for a coffee and just happen to meet Tilly? Did Hanners invite them over to distract her PA so she could get some work done in peace? I mean, there's nothing to set up the meeting of Claire and Tilly, it's just happening.

The comics from yesterday and today make me wonder are we seeing a rapid rush to finish the story because its petering out or is Jeph trying to get Tilly accepted by the rest of Hanners' circle of friends? Guess we'll find out Friday.

Rush to finish the story? Hm, maybe, but frankly, there hasn't really been a story. If Tilly is dismissed and QC then continues as before Tilly appeared, then the whole arc would have been utterly pointless. My guess is that Hanners will likely dismiss them after the 48 hours, after which the Tilly-arc continues in some shape or form, e.g. by examining the impact this experience has had on Hanners, or following Tilly to interactions with Hanners' mom or Tilly's dad.

Of course there is also the small possibility that this Tilly arc was solely introduced by JJ to have a nonbinary character in QC and illuminate the proper they/them pronoun use to the QC readership.....I certainly hope that is not the case though.

Or....perhaps this was a test by Hanners' mom to see whether Hanners is tough enough to tell Tily the truth and to dismiss somebody.

[Is it cold in here?]

Decent Human Being.

[Cornelius]

Of course there is also the small possibility that this Tilly arc was solely introduced by JJ to have a nonbinary character in QC and illuminate the proper they/them pronoun use to the QC readership.....I certainly hope that is not the case though.

There's always the unthinkable possibility: that Jeph introduced it just because he likes drawing Tilly. Sometimes ab experiment is no more than that.

That being said, I do think there is a possibility that this will lead to further development for some of the cast, at least.

I wonder how this will look in a few weeks, when we're going archive diving again.

[brasca]

If Tilly looks at the expressions Hannelore has had on her face, there is only one thing they can do if they're a DHB.

How?  Hannelore’s back is turned toward her.  And seeing as how her mother probably has a permanent expression of irritation I doubt Tilly would know any better if she was facing her.

[OldGoat]

I mean, what are Claire and Marten doing there? Did they pop round for a coffee and just happen to meet Tilly? Did Hanners invite them over to distract her PA so she could get some work done in peace? I mean, there's nothing to set up the meeting of Claire and Tilly, it's just happening.

Marten & Faye and Hanners have always been in and out of each others' apartments since the early days of the strip (although M&F's is the more frequent venue).  An encounter, chance or otherwise, was inevitable.

[Puckish Rogue]

Ok seriously thats enough, Give Tilly a rest so the rest of the cast can have a look in, shes had far too much exposure and its time for her to take a step back (a very long step back) and give the rest of the cast some coverage

Oh sorry i forgot, this is supposed to be "cute"

[Welu]

They/them.

[Puckish Rogue]

They/them.

Tilly uses they/them pronouns and thats cool for her but when someone looks like a girl, acts like a girl, talks like a girl, has a girls name and dresses like a girl I'll call her she  because I use he/she pronouns

[blt]

QuesTillyonable Content.

[Welu]

We've already had this discussion in the past two weeks of threads. There are nonbinary and trans people in this forum, you are disrespecting them as well when you refuse to honour a character's pronouns. Here's the post I made in a past thread summing up the issue.

I had the same thought while writing my last post. I had to use 'they were' instead of 's/he was' , but it only made me pause for a second. The polite option is to use for a person those pronouns that for which they have stated a preference. Is it something to which a lot of us may be unaccustomed, but I don't find it so terrible. Merely unfamiliar.

This is a good attitude.

As a they, which I feel the need to say again so people are reminded we're real people and not just a grammar connundrum to be solved, I can appreciate it is new to some and takes a bit of getting used to at first. Especially for people where English is not a first language for them.

However trying and messing up is a lot more appreciated than refusing outright, or saying we should come up with something "better". That incidentally ignores that trans and nonbinary people have already been having these discussions a long time. It's worth remembering that just because something is new to you does not mean that it is new.

This forum aims to be an inclusive space. That means we aim to be a little bit more compassionate and do a little more to make people feel welcome.

Someone telling you their pronouns is extending a level of vulnerability and trust. Turning around and saying you won't because you think you know better for whatever reason is patronising and can be so hurtful.

Moderator Comment

In this space, they is a valid pronoun. As it should be everywhere but the rest of the world is still getting there. Don't tell people how to identify. Respect people's (and the characters') wishes and use the pronoun they tell you to use for them. It is that simple.

[TheEvilDog]

They/them.

Tilly uses they/them pronouns and thats cool for her but when someone looks like a girl, acts like a girl, talks like a girl, has a girls name and dresses like a girl I'll call her she  because I use he/she pronouns

By that reasoning, one might call another person a dickwaffle because if they look like a dickwaffle, act like a dickwaffle and talks like a dickwaffle, they are a dickwaffle and thus should be referred to as such.

Of course, I wouldn't dare call someone a dickwaffle, because I would at least maintain a modicum of respect for them no matter what I might think or feel about them.

Its all about respect. Everyone deserves it, even if they don't necessarily act like it.

[Case]

God, I love this! 

Claire and Tilly really hit it off. How to call it?
Clailly? Tillaire? Claffy? Taffilly? 

TM

[themacnut]

Whelp. looks like all those who want Tilly to disappear at the end of this arc are NOT going to get their wish, since it looks like Tilly has officially been "adopted" by Marten and Claire. I think I can see how this is going to go; if Hannelore tries to dismiss Tilly at the end of the 48 hours, she'll be shamed into changing her mind by Marten and Claire. Or, she'll have some kind of change of heart by the end of the 48 hours and decide to keep Tilly around after all. Either way, she'll be stuck with Tilly. Along with the rest of us. 

[Timemaster]

Either way, she'll be stuck with Tilly. Along with the rest of us.

Sound  like a good plan for me. (And maybe one or two more people.)
QuesTILLYonable Content would really be a good and appropriate title for the strip. 

TM

[Case]

[Puckish Rogue]

Tilly uses they/them pronouns and thats cool for her but when someone looks like a girl, acts like a girl, talks like a girl, has a girls name and dresses like a girl I'll call her she  because I use he/she pronouns
[/quote]

By that reasoning, one might call another person a dickwaffle because if they look like a dickwaffle, act like a dickwaffle and talks like a dickwaffle, they are a dickwaffle and thus should be referred to as such.

Of course, I wouldn't dare call someone a dickwaffle, because I would at least maintain a modicum of respect for them no matter what I might think or feel about them.

Its all about respect. Everyone deserves it, even if they don't necessarily act like it.
[/quote]

I've always felt its a choice to be offended by what someone else says about you, like when you let someone else offend you you're basically giving that person power over you and I make sure no one has power over me...except my wife and I gave that freely (or I didn't have any choice in the matter)

[Mr. Doctor]

You know what offends me? Fucking puns. I couldn't care less of how people identify themselves but I would hate to sit inbetween those two if they keep going at it.

[pwhodges]

I make sure no one has power over me...except my wife and I gave that freely (or I didn't have any choice in the matter)

That is a choice you can make.

I've always felt its a choice to be offended by what someone else says about you, like when you let someone else offend you you're basically giving that person power over you

However, not everyone is capable of making that choice; and it can come over to them that your attitude is rubbing their face in the problems they perceive - is that how you would in turn wish to be treated?   It is selfish not to take the modest trouble necessary to treat people respectfully, including considering their wishes in matters which don't cause you any hardship to acknowledge.

[dutchrvl]

I've always felt its a choice to be offended by what someone else says about you, like when you let someone else offend you you're basically giving that person power over you and I make sure no one has power over me...except my wife and I gave that freely (or I didn't have any choice in the matter)

I am sure other people here can and will be much better at responding to this, but here is my take.

By your logic, everybody can behave as much as a disrespectful dipshit as they want, because hey, the onus is on the one being disrespected to not feel offended, right? No need for you to have respect for anything or anyone's wishes then, such a copout.

If I come up to you and your wife and start hurling insults at her and disrespecting her, I assume you would not be offended then right, nor your wife, because that would give me 'power' over you?

Of course I could argue that your assessments with regards to clothing, looks, name, etc. are all subjective and therefore can and should not be used to decide how you want to address them, but it's really even simpler than that.
The simple question really is: in what way are you negatively affected by being respectful to another's wishes? The answer in this matter here is, of course, not at all. It's simply a matter of deliberately ignoring them just for the sake of ignoring them. Frankly, it looks more like trolling.

Have a nice day

[chaospersonified]

Disregarding the douchehattery of previous comments...

Jeph says that it was either Claire and Tilly joyfully punning towards one another, or mutually-assured destruction.

I propose a third possibility.

What if the pair joins forces? Turn their puns into WEA-PUNS. The world might..

The world might never recover.

[Case]

Of course, I wouldn't dare call someone a dickwaffle, because I would at least maintain a modicum of respect for them no matter what I might think or feel about them. dickwaffles are tashtyomnomnom

[Is it cold in here?]

Global Moderator Comment

Anyone who's not comfortable using singular "they" can simply use Tilly's name instead and everyone's needs are met.

[Storel]

Well, 3632 is titled "A Question Finally Answered", but I submit that it actually answers two questions: not only does it establish why robots are able to blush, but it also confirms (for those who still harbored some doubt) that Tilly is not a robot themself.

[Thrudd]

Well, 3632 is titled "A Question Finally Answered", but I submit that it actually answers two questions: not only does it establish why robots are able to blush, but it also confirms (for those who still harbored some doubt) that Tilly is not a robot herself.

or is a better actor / fibber than we have suspected

(click to show/hide)

I'll read the weeks strips on Friday but I pretty much get the gist of whats happening without having to directly expose myself to the Tilly more than necessary to stay up to date on what is or is not happening in the strip.
By the tone of the comments thus far, it isn't.i

[SmilingCat]

Well, 3632 is titled "A Question Finally Answered", but I submit that it actually answers two questions: not only does it establish why robots are able to blush, but it also confirms (for those who still harbored some doubt) that Tilly is not a robot herself.

Not necessarily, they might be a robot but still not know why they're able to blush. How many of your autonomic functions do you fully understand?   

(yes, I know, Tilly's human, quiet you!)

[SmilingCat]

Also, I never realized before how deeply he/she pronouns are dug into my thought processes. I'll try to catch my errors when I can, but I apologize in advance for any errors I make.

[Case]

Well, 3632 is titled "A Question Finally Answered", but I submit that it actually answers two questions: not only does it establish why robots are able to blush, but it also confirms (for those who still harbored some doubt) that Tilly is not a robot herself.

Not necessarily, they might be a robot but still not know why they're able to blush. How many of your autonomic functions do you fully understand?   

(yes, I know, Tilly's human, quiet you!)

Hmmmh ... what's Ridley Scott's take on that?

[Shjade]

Whelp. looks like all those who want Tilly to disappear at the end of this arc are NOT going to get their wish, since it looks like Tilly has officially been "adopted" by Marten and Claire. I think I can see how this is going to go; if Hannelore tries to dismiss Tilly at the end of the 48 hours, she'll be shamed into changing her mind by Marten and Claire. Or, she'll have some kind of change of heart by the end of the 48 hours and decide to keep Tilly around after all. Either way, she'll be stuck with Tilly. Along with the rest of us. 

I sorta doubt it. I mean, I'm pretty sure they'll be around in some form, but I don't think it'll be a) this consistently or b) as Hannelore's...anything. Most likely a recurring cameo role.

Not because of fan backlash or anything (if that's even significant in the first place), but cast balance and how much Tilly is being placed up front right now. It seems like the result of wanting to get a lot of Tilly drawn and played out before they go back on the shelf, to me. If they were going to have a more core role I think Jeph would've moved to a new PoV after the cafe visit for a bit.

Just my impression, no firm foundation for it.

Edit: welp, now I know just how sick I am. Didn't even notice the pronoun snafu until this moment. Fixt.

[mercykills]

Whelp. looks like all those who want Tilly to disappear at the end of this arc are NOT going to get their wish, since it looks like Tilly has officially been "adopted" by Marten and Claire. I think I can see how this is going to go; if Hannelore tries to dismiss Tilly at the end of the 48 hours, she'll be shamed into changing her mind by Marten and Claire. Or, she'll have some kind of change of heart by the end of the 48 hours and decide to keep Tilly around after all. Either way, she'll be stuck with Tilly. Along with the rest of us. 

I've made this point before but I don't see Marten's passive behind caring enough to intercede on Tilly's behalf and, also, I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he sees them as a friend. So, even if he wasn't all, "blah" about life, why would he butt into Hanner's(his friend for years) business to tell her that she shouldn't distance herself from someone he JUST met, literally, yesterday(in comic time).

And, sadly, while I can see Claire being stupid enough to try it, we'd still run into the same issue of someone else taking away Hannelore's agency for their own selfish reasons.

[Is it cold in here?]

Also, I never realized before how deeply he/she pronouns are dug into my thought processes. I'll try to catch my errors when I can, but I apologize in advance for any errors I make.

Same here. So far I've been able to catch my slip-ups before I hit Post.

[Bad Superman]

Switching from she/her to they/them when referring to Tilly was surprisingly easy.

Reading  other people's posts however is a different topic. Sometimes when I read a *they* or *them* I find myself asking 'What *they*?', or 'Who are *they*?', before I realise 'Oh, the poster meant Tilly!'.

[Penquin47]

Welp.  That happened.  Here's hoping Hanners doesn't suddenly have a lifesplosion and need to call them back and rehire them because she can't handle things.

[traroth]

Good riddance. I'm already beginning to forget you, Timy...

[mercykills]

Ooooook....Here we are. Pitchforks being slowly lowered. Anger subsiding.

A subtle feeling of cautious optimism begins to wash over the land. Question is: Will it last?

[hakko504]

A subtle feeling of cautious optimism begins to wash over the land. Question is: Will it last?

Nah, I don't think so. Tomorrow Hanners will most likely feel the wrath of her mother when she comes around to tell Hanners in no uncertain terms that Ellicott-Chathams have a PA, period.

[Thrillho]

It'd be an extremely surreal diversion for Tilly to just disappear immediately after this.

But there's so many characters in QC that short of my favourites, I'm not really invested in anyone staying or going because there's plenty to read about anyway.