Topic: All Inclusive "Recommend Me For Music" Thread (Read 220055 times)

devils_daughter · « **Reply #350 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:06 »

Considering it went like this:

*bottles*
Iggy "you think can do better?"
Crowd "Hell yeh!"
Iggy "then get the fuck up here then"

I would assume mebbe not!

The Eyeball Kid · « **Reply #351 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:33 »

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Oct 2006, 23:35

i'd say it is supposed to be music on an independent label that is popular.

these days it seems to mean 'music that is influenced by/ similar to music on an independent label that is popular/ has blatent hooks and melody etc'.
in other news, music categorisation continues to be stupid.

I think thats actually what it originally meant. Its "in a perfect world, this would be a hit". Sometimes it is- Aussie Augie March has a top 10 hit here now, but usually that dosen't happen. There's also a guy named Bob Evans, who's really the dude from Jebediah. he's got a Top 10 hit with something that sounds like it was written by Burt Bacharach
For me its music that pretends pop songs are still written like they were in the 60s, with a sweet melody and hooks and lyrics... not so much electronic production or booty shaking, though you can get a bit of that.
Lyrics tend to be either clever or really cute... sometimes sarcastic, often 'aggressivly innocent'- like I said to dad, i don't need Soul. i need Scottish people writing songs about reading books. its an escape

er.. fan wankishness aside, it can simply mean "music that would have sold a million copies in 1960, but is now indie". thats why i include bands like Fountains of Wayne

KharBevNor · « **Reply #352 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:42 »

Punk is defined by ethos and intent.

We've been over what I've said before as well: that comparing the Sex Pistols (formed as something like a performance art project) with the Monkees (formed for a package TV series/merchandising deal) is completely ridiculous; that the cultural impact of the Sex Pistols, in as far as actually getting punk out there, making the entire British establishment shit their pants and having a life performance that pretty much led to the formation of bands including Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees, and in completely overturning notions of what could actually make it as a '#1' record, did far more for cultural life and for music in general than ten perhaps more proficient and prolific lesser known artists. Also, that Anarchy in the UK, God Save the Queen, (I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone, are great songs. Despite their morals, intentions, whatever, The Sex Pistols accomplished more than any other punk band in history.

I will also point out now that Jawbreaker are bland rock that does not deserve a place in a thread about punk.

Slick · « **Reply #353 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:47 »

So is this genre defined as music made by iggys that is popular, or is it music made by iggys that has 'pop sensibilities'?

John Butler Train · « **Reply #354 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:48 »

The Sex Pistols were a band of Hairdressers.
Their music was inconsequential in every sense of the word.

Now Johnny Ramone, he was more worthy of our attention. He was much more politically minded.

John Butler Train · « **Reply #355 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 06:57 »

Iggy Pop is an amusing homosexual.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #356 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:02 »

Quote from: El Opium on 28 Oct 2006, 05:19

Since it's been a while since Jeph's post is it alright if I semi-hijack the thread and ask for BM reccomendations for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?

Misanthropy, Belketre, Vargshelske, Enbilulugugal, Crossodomiser, Sarnath, Cumming Jehovah, Schizoid, Abyss Angel, Wolfsburg, ...Aaaarrghh..., Chainsaw Gutsfuck, Graven, Profanatica, Gosforth, Total Genocide, Varnacht, Woods of Fallen, Ixtab

Some at least should suit.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #357 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:03 »

If there had been no sex pistols, there would be no Joy Division.

Inconsequential?

John Butler Train · « **Reply #358 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:03 »

What of the bands that do have 'a hit'?

The Arcade Fire for example.
They have easily surpassed the million mark.

John Butler Train · « **Reply #359 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:05 »

Just think, that young man might still be alive now were it not for the Sex Pistols.

What a terrible shame.

bff · « **Reply #360 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:16 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 06:42

Punk is defined by ethos and intent.

We've been over what I've said before as well: that comparing the Sex Pistols (formed as something like a performance art project) with the Monkees (formed for a package TV series/merchandising deal) is completely ridiculous; that the cultural impact of the Sex Pistols, in as far as actually getting punk out there, making the entire British establishment shit their pants and having a life performance that pretty much led to the formation of bands including Joy Division and Siouxsie and the Banshees, and in completely overturning notions of what could actually make it as a '#1' record, did far more for cultural life and for music in general than ten perhaps more proficient and prolific lesser known artists. Also, that Anarchy in the UK, God Save the Queen, (I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone, are great songs. Despite their morals, intentions, whatever, The Sex Pistols accomplished more than any other punk band in history.

Much like the Stones vs. Beatles arguments, the Clash vs. Sex Pistols is something few people seem to be able to refrain from picking sides. I am a Clash man myself and think Johnny Rotten is a complete and utter ass.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #361 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:21 »

Quote from: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 07:05

Just think, that young man might still be alive now were it not for the Sex Pistols.

What a terrible shame.

Are you talking about Ian Curtis?

Because that makes literally no sense.

twilightcreep · « **Reply #362 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:37 »

Hot Snakes, Rocket From the Crypt, Marked Men, Ghost Mice, Defiance Ohio, This Bike is a Pipebomb, Ted Leo, Small Brown Bike, Nation of Ulysses, Murder City Devils, International Noise Conspiracy, and ummm.... gob...

*Sights* · « **Reply #363 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:38 »

This thread is missing something...

El Opium · « **Reply #364 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:46 »

According to the physics used on this board it's probably anal cunt, though bold new theories could soon prove that it's actually Slint's "Spiderland".

valley_parade · « **Reply #365 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:52 »

Actually, it's Jets to Brazil. Sorry El Opium, but you were close.

Gryff · « **Reply #366 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 07:58 »

I'm kind of thirsty right now, and since I've been drinking quite a bit of cola recently, I want to try something new. Can you guys recommend me a drink that is similar to cola but different?

Gridgm · « **Reply #367 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 08:09 »

well if you can get hold of a bottle of coke from the 1920's that'd probably taste different...apparantly that actually had coke in it

Johnny C · « **Reply #368 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 08:26 »

Now there is officially no shortage of threads in which I can recommend the purchase of Please Kill Me: An Oral History Of Punk by Legs McNeil and someone else. Full of great stories about Iggy, and really about punk in general. It's great. Read it. Seriously. Dammit.

Anyways, I recommend his stupendous collaboration with Sum 41, "Little Know-It-All"!

Johnny C · « **Reply #369 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 08:32 »

SciWed · « **Reply #370 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 08:34 »

Come on...an obvious one. The Misfits. Oldies but goodies. I mean, punk music with the most unpunk lyrics...that, my good sirs and ma'ams, is punk.
By the way, I mean Misfits '77-'83. Not the new crappy incarnation, '95 - now.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #371 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 08:41 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 06:42

I will also point out now that Jawbreaker are bland rock that does not deserve a place in a thread about punk.

You know what? You're right. In fact, here's an open invitation to viciously savage my taste in music: www.last.fm/user/happybivouac

Johnny C · « **Reply #372 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 09:06 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 07:03

If there had been no sex pistols, there would be no Joy Division.

Inconsequential?

If there had been no New York Dolls, there would have been no Sex Pistols. Don't make this into a pissing match, guys.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #373 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 09:44 »

But Joy Division were literally formed because of the members attending a Sex Pistols concert. As were goodness knows how many other bands: people saw the Sex Pistols, they started bands.

Felix_ · « **Reply #374 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 09:52 »

No offense, but most of those bands are absolute garbage. Especially Enbilulugugal. I should get a recorder and tape static and hit a coffee can over and over again so I can be like Izedis (Dusty).

*Sights* · « **Reply #375 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 09:54 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_soda

Slick · « **Reply #376 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:13 »

I recommend Jones' Soda, they make some pretty awesome cream soda & dark cherry.

FreshJive787 · « **Reply #377 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:19 »

Dayuse · « **Reply #378 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:30 »

The Acrobrats?

Scytale · « **Reply #379 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:32 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola

Clearly open coal is the only soda you can trust, who knows what those proprietery soda companies are putting in there source code, umm I mean in there recipe.

The Eyeball Kid · « **Reply #380 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:36 »

Quote from: John Butler Train on 30 Oct 2006, 07:03

What of the bands that do have 'a hit'?

The Arcade Fire for example.
They have easily surpassed the million mark.

Yeah... sometimes bands do break. Augie March are probably the biggest example around here- literate lyrics that'd make Colin Meloy blush, melencholy melodies, playing tiny clubs for 4 nights in a row... and then 'One Crowded Hour' drops and they're featured in every TV ad everywhere. And I met a gal from Glasgow who reckons Stuart Murdoch is a celebrity and acts like it.

Its still indie pop if it gets big, since its in the aesthetic, I think. Belle & Sebastian and Fountains of Wayne have had hits, but if you say 'recomend me some indie pop' i'll still be okay with them, 'cause alot of their albums weren't hits and they had hits with literate songwriting craft

Ernest · « **Reply #381 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:47 »

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Oct 2006, 23:31

to be fair that's not all he listens too.

i'd be prepared to bet kharbevnor listens to a much broader range of music than 95% of this forum.

I never said it was all he listens to. But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap.

@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland. I don't know what makes you say that. Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana. Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that. Nothing against you personally, of course. I'm not aiming to start a flame war.

Ernest · « **Reply #382 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:50 »

I drank a nine-year-old Mr. Pibb. It tasted okay, but it was a bit different. I wonder if the recipe has been modified over the years.

Gridgm · « **Reply #383 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 10:57 »

Quote from: Flaming Ostrich on 30 Oct 2006, 10:47

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Oct 2006, 23:31
to be fair that's not all he listens too.

i'd be prepared to bet kharbevnor listens to a much broader range of music than 95% of this forum.

I never said it was all he listens to. But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap.

the difference being that black metal started in the early 80's and is still going (i'm referenceing lyrical theme's rather than sound at the momnet ie. venom, mercyful fate and the like)

Gridgm · « **Reply #384 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 11:01 »

Quote from: Felix_ on 30 Oct 2006, 09:52

No offense, but most of those bands are absolute garbage. Especially Enbilulugugal. I should get a recorder and tape static and hit a coffee can over and over again so I can be like Izedis (Dusty).

note the for those who hate fidelity/structure/melody/music?

Ernest · « **Reply #385 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 11:03 »

You mean gangsta rap isn't still going? Hmmm. . . then I wonder what all this stuff I've been listening to is.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #386 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 11:05 »

Indeed.

Also, Enbilulugugal is worth it simply for the titles. And that song with the futurama sample.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #387 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 11:28 »

Quote from: Flaming Ostrich on 30 Oct 2006, 10:47

@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland. I don't know what makes you say that. Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana. Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that. Nothing against you personally, of course. I'm not aiming to start a flame war.

Grunge is, at best, a novelty, much like the hair metal it replaced.

Only with less musicianship and cocaine and more heroin and plaid.

As to Jawbreaker: all I have to go by is a song from the forced listening thread, and what I could find on youtube. Their one video 'Fireman' is just about tolerable until the soul-less singing kicks in alongside the most mind-numbingly generic 90's pop-punk riff I've ever heard outside of Green Day. The live stuff is better, if only because they seem to possibly have a different singer, or at least their singer has smoked about ten kilos of hash before the show, judging by his more gravelly voice. Still, it's nothing that I haven't heard about a hundred times before. I think this band must be something like Deftones: one arbitrary band from a completely worthless form of music that everyone has decided to love.

As for Nirvana: Kurt Cobain would have agreed with me. Hell, Kurt Cobain would have agreed The Field Mice were better than Nirvana. There is nothing special about Nirvana. They wrote some pretty good grunge songs, some stuff thats just objectively not bad, then Kurt gave his shotgun a blowjob. Nada. Though, I can't trash Nirvanas legacy completely: if not for them, fifteen year old stoners world wide would ALL wear that one Led Zeppelin shirt, instead of half of them wearing that one Nirvana shirt instead.

Also, I'm going to seriously question the purpose in criticising me for listening to black metal (a genre I would be surprised if you knew jack shit about), if you equate it to gangster rap and then say yourself that you listen to gangster rap.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #388 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 11:50 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 11:28

Grunge is, at best, a novelty, much like the hair metal it replaced.

Only with less musicianship and cocaine and more heroin and plaid.

This is pretty much the best line ever.

Quote

Though, I can't trash Nirvanas legacy completely: if not for them, fifteen year old stoners world wide would ALL wear that one Led Zeppelin shirt, instead of half of them wearing that one Nirvana shirt instead.

I don't see how tis is a good thing

Felix_ · « **Reply #389 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:22 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 11:05

Indeed.

Also, Enbilulugugal is worth it simply for the titles. And that song with the futurama sample.

I'm an acquaintence with the guy behind Enbilulugugal and Chernobog, he has issues and far too much time on his hands. He sent me a demo tape of Enbilulugugal once back in '98 and it was limited too like 13 copies and he numbered them in blood.

salada · « **Reply #390 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:26 »

you need mecca cola!

no more stupid drinking! drink with comittment!

Gryff · « **Reply #391 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:28 »

Quote from: Flaming Ostrich on 30 Oct 2006, 10:47

@kharbevnor- Jawbreaker is not bland. I don't know what makes you say that. Oh, and Joy Division is not better than Nirvana. Yeah, I know that's from an old thread, but I can't believe you think that. Nothing against you personally, of course. I'm not aiming to start a flame war.

Oh, subjective opinions presented as fact.
Yes, rational debate is totally wack.
You like this band? You must be on crack!
It's subjective opinions presented as fact!

Felix_ · « **Reply #392 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:29 »

Gryff · « **Reply #393 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:31 »

Have you tried Spiderland by Slint? It's refreshing and it tastes so good!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #394 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:33 »

Who doesn't limit all their releases and hand number them in blood

Felix_ · « **Reply #395 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 12:36 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 12:33

Who doesn't limit all their releases and hand number them in blood

Blondie.

Jed · « **Reply #396 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 13:17 »

Subs http://www.chaile.org/subs/
I've seen them live and they're chinese, that's why.

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #397 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 14:16 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 30 Oct 2006, 11:28

Their one video 'Fireman' is just about tolerable until the soul-less singing kicks in alongside the most mind-numbingly generic 90's pop-punk riff I've ever heard outside of Green Day. The live stuff is better, if only because they seem to possibly have a different singer, or at least their singer has smoked about ten kilos of hash before the show, judging by his more gravelly voice.

Actually, the reason his voice is softer on "Fireman" is because just prior to recording the album it's on (Dear You) he'd had throat surgery (his second or third, actually) because he'd fucked up his throat to the point where there were polyps on his vocal cords, and thus he had to take it easy. If you were to hear a live version of that song, from after his throat healed, he'd probably be singing it all loud and gravelly like usual.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #398 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 14:38 »

Sob story or no, it sounds like shit.

Scytale · « **Reply #399 on:** 30 Oct 2006, 15:24 »

Quote from: Flaming Ostrich on 30 Oct 2006, 10:47

I never said it was all he listens to. But black metal is, at best, a novelty, much like much gangsta rap.

If you wanted to make me bang my head against the keyboard you have suceeded, congrats...

I'm not even going to atempt a reply to this as I assume it was some pathetic attempt at instigating a flame war.

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devils_daughter

The Eyeball Kid

John Butler Train

John Butler Train

John Butler Train

John Butler Train

twilightcreep

El Opium

Felix_

Scytale

The Eyeball Kid

Felix_

Felix_

Felix_

Scytale