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[maddness]

Great. Now I'm going to have to plan a robbery.

I wonder ... are these the gizmo type gremlins that melt in sunlight?

[Gammasite]

It's true, the violence between main characters doesn't happen much - and that's to be expected.

It reminds me a lot of my best friend. She's some crazy-high-belted martial artist, and we both know she could thoroughly kick my ass and beat me to a pulp if she so desired. We both joke about it all the time, like how she'll pulverize me if I do something stupid, but does the violence actually happen? No, of course not. I think the same kind of thing applies to the QC characters.

[maddness]

The name of the scotch, btw, is The Glenlivet.  It is a smooth, slightly smoky single-malt scotch.

It's very good with lemonade too, though the man prefers his 12 year old scotch mixed with Mountain Dew.

[Mr. Skawronska]

The name of the scotch, btw, is The Glenlivet.  It is a smooth, slightly smoky single-malt scotch.

It's very good with lemonade too, though the man prefers his 12 year old scotch mixed with Mountain Dew.

Hmmm.  I hadn't considered mixing it with anything, actually.  Lemonade, you say?  Dew?

Must give that some thought.

Preferably over a glass of scotch.

i think you are in the wrong topic buddy.


try staying in the general course please

Ha, ha.

Nope.  My hate of Faye, while not legendary, is probably annoyingly well known.

I have published here in the past that I have a bottle of single-malt Scotch especially saved for when this particular incident occurred.

Now I get to drink it.

I'll admit that I may be the only calloused, bitter, evil SOB who actually does NOT feel sorry for Faye, and actually enjoys the Schadenfreude associated with ANY level of her misery.

But this...this...

...just...Thanks, Jeph:  You Da Man.

S

[kurzon]

Sven hasn't a good record and I'm not surprised to seem him relapse once a little alcohol was involved, but it should be pointed out that he seems to have managed to be completely faithful to Faye for months.  I'm glad she reacted as she did, but I don't consider Sven evil - just weak.

[BobtheSpaceMonkey]

On Sven;
I am not entirely sure how you can manifest some negative emotions toward an individual that is acting legitamently within the parameters of both his character, and the pretenses set upon his character. As previously mentioned in the strip, he has not been faithful before (as such this action is within the guidelines of his character), and he was not in a closed relationship (Faye only told him it was ok but that she would leave if he slept with anyone, which she did).There was at no point an agreement or solidfiication comicly known of the relationship to the point of exclusivity (or rather, they never came to an agreement of bf/ gf, even in the recent comic (#1335) she registers their relationship with curiosity saying "whatever sven and I are" instead of saying boyfriend or any proprietorship titles of known stages in a relationship (ie. b#$%^, friend, friends with benefit, boyfriend, fiance, wife, cetera)).

However, as well as obeying the guidelines assumed by his character, he has also remained honest to a fault about every stage of their relationship, and everything that happens during their relationship, and put up with the hardships / faults that Faye's moody nature has beset upon him.

On Suicide;
I'm not sure why this topic is in an online forum,
but it being here and me with several cents to spare I might as well share 2;
1. The glorification of both death, and life (as its hard to -logically- think one is important without the other one being too), are only things that people not in fear of the details of either can afford. With 6.4 million people alive today (not including the ones that have lived), and the average person only being able to be impressed upon by a very limited number (under a thousand I would guess, wiki monkeysphere for more details on the # a person can recognize), it is statistically probable that neither your life, nor your death will make any significant impact on... anything other than your own scope of reality/ circle of friends.
Instead of worrying about how to live, or how to die, or whether or not living or dying is the right thing, a person should take the path they think will be best for their emotional state (even if they think no emotional state is better than the one they are in now) in the long run. The only thing to lament is when someone chooses a permanent solution for a temporary problem, but its hard to tell if a problem is permanent or temporary when it is very psychologically compelling.

2. Do the people who think its cowardly also think that its cowardly to kill yourself when you've only got 1 months to live and it will be in great amounts of pain because of a medical condition? Or 3 months?  or 6 months? and that 1 or 3 or 6 months would completely bankrupt their family and emotionally destroy the people they love? (Because it is harder on individuals to watch the ones they love suffer knowing they will die, than it is to watch them die quickly). 

Oh well, I hope the length of this statement has provided adequate defense against being read.

Edit:
Ps. Hi, I'm not new tot he comic, just the forum. With the markets as they are I didn't feel like day trading and got bored, sorry I forgot introductions.

[LuReid]

I've been through this as a younger man, so it's personally painful. I'm not a great man, or even a good one. But I am so grateful I'm not 20. I made so many mistakes as a kid. It's sort of humbling to realize what a shithead I was. The only good thing I can find from it is that I have tried hard not to be that heartless or stupid as a man. Sometimes it even works.

So you're saying that 20 year old guys someday regret their douche-baggery and reform?
I am heartened.


I'm glad Sven decided to man up and tell her, himself. I think he would have greatly preferred she just punch him.
Poor Faye..

[championofkhorne]

I'm confused at the people who are saying that Sven only acted in character like it is a good thing.

I wasn't aware blatant douchebaggery warranted applause

[twillow456]

i remember back in the day when faye karate chopped a government agent, so there is also that, remember when pintsize had a laser, yeah, im not crazy.

I have to agree with you there. QC is great as a drama, but the unnecessary violence and poop jokes are just as much a part of the comic as the relationship aspects. So as much as I want to see how this situation plays itself out, in some small way I look forward to the end of this story arc so we can take Pintsize back to the robocafe or have another Roomba race.



That said, I don't think that either violence or jokes will come from this bombshell. I think that one of two things will happen:

1) Faye will be destroyed, she'll curl up in a little ball and resemble Hannelore on a bad day for quite some time now. Sven will feel terrible about Faye's condition, but Dora and Marten won't let him within a hundred yards of her or Coffee of Doom (assuming she doesn't quit). Dora and Sven might even have a serious falling out, while Marten will be as supportive as possible.

2) Both Sven and Faye will feel terrible for about a couple week's worth of strips. Wil might re-emerge as a male support for Sven, and even Marten filling in isn't impossible. But I don't think Sven will be alone the whole time, even if it's just Lydia (yes the intern does have a name ~ #1229). Faye will be wrapped in the supportive arms of Dora, Raven, and Penelope, and possibly even call home. But after a period of feeling bad, they'll both grow up a bit. Sven will realize that he really cares about someone for the first time in his life. Faye will learn that sometimes the people you love do hurt you, but that it's no reason to stop loving them. And eventually, after a whole lot of soul-searching and emotional conflictedness, the two of them will get back together on a more permanent basis.

Hopefully both of these scenarios will involve an appearance of Pizza Girl, just to keep us wondering who she really is.

And personally, I think the second option is more likely. Jeph seems to be in the business of having his characters grow up and get more normal (remember Hannelore cleaning the ceiling every weekend?) as time goes on. This is the major hurdle in Faye's life, and I don't think Jeph will let her fail now that we've gotten to it.

[championofkhorne]

and anyone thinking dora and marten are breaking up because of something as stupid as "girls are insecure" has obviously never been in a relationship before

[bunnyThor]

Damn that sucks,what next does Dora get cancer*Question mark*

If this Jeph turns the strip into Questionable Winkerbean, I am outta here! 

[tweetles]

[quote author=twillow456 link=topic=22527.msg778835#msg778835 date=123491267
That said, I don't think that either violence or jokes will come from this bombshell. I think that one of two things will happen:

1) Faye will be destroyed, she'll curl up in a little ball and resemble Hannelore on a bad day for quite some time now. Sven will feel terrible about Faye's condition, but Dora and Marten won't let him within a hundred yards of her or Coffee of Doom (assuming she doesn't quit). Dora and Sven might even have a serious falling out, while Marten will be as supportive as possible.

2) Both Sven and Faye will feel terrible for about a couple week's worth of strips. Wil might re-emerge as a male support for Sven, and even Marten filling in isn't impossible. But I don't think Sven will be alone the whole time, even if it's just Lydia (yes the intern does have a name ~ #1229). Faye will be wrapped in the supportive arms of Dora, Raven, and Penelope, and possibly even call home. But after a period of feeling bad, they'll both grow up a bit. Sven will realize that he really cares about someone for the first time in his life. Faye will learn that sometimes the people you love do hurt you, but that it's no reason to stop loving them. And eventually, after a whole lot of soul-searching and emotional conflictedness, the two of them will get back together on a more permanent basis.

[/quote]

I dont think Faye will end up having a complete meltdown over this. Her charater does seems to be rather prideful and all this has hurt her and her pride, and now she just feels foolish. I mean there really is no reason to have thought things wouldve been any different. Now she feels stupid for thinking that it would. SO shell suck it all up and act as though its no big deal at all while everyone else has drama for her.

[championofkhorne]

yes well if it didnt matter that much to her she would have punched sven.

i think that is the general opinion at least

[ponderch3rry]

I just wanna give Faye a hug

[championofkhorne]

she is squishy so hugs are always enjoyable lol

[Mr. Skawronska]

Instead of worrying about how to live, or how to die, or whether or not living or dying is the right thing, a person should take the path they think will be best for their emotional state (even if they think no emotional state is better than the one they are in now) in the long run. The only thing to lament is when someone chooses a permanent solution for a temporary problem, but its hard to tell if a problem is permanent or temporary when it is very psychologically compelling.

One of the better commentaries on suicide I've yet read anywhere from anyone.  Stealing it shamelessly verbatim.

So you're saying that 20 year old guys someday regret their douche-baggery and reform?

{bitter}
Yeah. 20 year old girls, on the other hand, get to be 40 and then blame it all on someone other than themselves.
{/bitter}

Roast in your selfmade hell, FAye, you egotistical, self-deceptive, shallow bitch.  Sven told you what was up and you didn't listen so you got no one to blame but yourself, and you won't even do that.

Almost drunk.  Getting there.

S

[PapaFrita]

If she genuinely hoped that then she was fooling herself. they both said that it wasnt supposed to be monogomous, so really they are both at fault for not saying what they meant, doesnt mean i dont feel bad, but it's both of their faults.

Yeah, they were kind of foolish for pretending they didn't want a real relationship. Mixed signals like that are always a recipie for hurt feelings. Can't say I completely blame Sven.

[Prominent Internet Figure]

Sven is Swede.  Therefore, both Faye and Gina Riversmith are pregnant.

[quats]

I found it interesting that the implied first reason he didn't want to tell her, was because then she would leave.

Sadly, he doesn't have enough insight to actually consciously realize this -- debateable if he even does now-- or likely the control to do something about it even if he did.  It would be nice if he learns something from this, but, too little too late? Or maybe the emotional BootToTheHead of having to deal with the consequence for once, actually puts him into a better position for a real relationship -- which likely got sidetracked into sex far, far too early, given his particular problem.

They're both addicts -- I fear them both hitting bars to try to fill the gaping emotional hole from this encounter, though for different reasons (booze for her, a hookup for him).  I hope not, they both have grown some, but under stress you do tend to relapse into old habits.  Even if they don't, though, I don't know if either one is strong enough to get the relationship back.

Waiting and biting my nails to see how they both react.  It's a mark of how well-written and complex this is that you can make predictions based on character and past events, but don't really know which way the toast will fall.. butter side up? Down?  Or in a twist, a pet dashes in and devours it? We don't know!

[Lyrical]

From my perspective, yes, he didn't promise monogamy, but he knew straight up that if he cheated on her, she was gone.  She didn't want *emotional* commitment, which is what she's scared of, but made it very clear that she expected sexual monogamy.  Probably not very realistic of her, considering it's, well, Sven, but I thought she was pretty clear.  By continuing to date her after she said that, I saw it as him agreeing to it, even if he didn't flat out say so, and he's been acting on it pretty consistently up until the Gina fling.

[theangelicsin]

What a strip to read right before taking a midterm!

I really don't see why everyone continues to crucify Sven. He's improved with time and he did end up telling her even though he seemed afraid to have her leave, or hurt her. He could have kept it to himself. He could have let Lydia do the dirty work for him. He could have even just slept with her and told her right after that he slept with someone else to get one last session in before saying goodbye. But he didn't.

I've known many guys who would never admit to something like that, and I've known those who would string girls along until they found a new one to mess with. He isn't without guilt, and it's not like he was happy to have her leave either. As much of an ass as he was in the past, he is starting to grow up.

People slip up constantly with their addictions. Whether it's alcohol, sex, cigarettes, drugs, whatever. Old habits and temptations come back and sometimes cause problems.

They weren't exclusive, so his sleeping with someone else wasn't cheating in my opinion (note: opinion ). She wanted him to be sexually exclusive but he never agreed to it. She just told him she would leave if he did sleep with someone else. Regardless, he told her.

Personally I'd like to see how their relationship changes and develops from this point on. I'm curious to see if they'll remain friends, if one of them will try to avoid the other, or if they'll even try to see if they could form something solid with boundaries and conditions they could both agree to.

[tinkerbell]

This is a bit freaky... Faye seems to show me exactly what I would do more and more each day...

I have to say I was expecting such a reaction, I mean, what is Faye supposed to say or do to that? It is already done, so unless she goes back in time and screams "NO! STOP IT YOU RABBITS!" to Sven and Gina, there is nothing to be done. I know that a lot of people think that she knew what she was getting into with Sven, but I think it is in part miscommunication and also denial. She let him know that if he slept with another girl she would be out of there, but I suspect she was denying the possibility of that to herself so that she could continue to enjoy the situation. Sven, on the other hand, mostly seemed to think of it as a casual relationship and up until now we have never seen that he has ever had any contradicting feelings while having sex. So he clearly cares about her... just not enough.

Personally, I am hoping that Faye gets reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally drunk and we get to see Marten put to the test if she tries to make a move on him. Drama!

[ponderch3rry]

she is squishy so hugs are always enjoyable lol

We also both have big bwebs, so it would be one of those awesome squishy-bewb hugs that end up with someone yelling... "OMG MY NIPPLE"

Fun all round ^_^

... And hopefullt it would make her feel better :3

[Rachel_Grace]

I'm new to both the forum and the comic, but I've read every strip. I'm honestly not surprised. This is just par for the course with Sven. He has been trying, and he's gotten better, but you can't expect someone not to slip up. (Just the same way that Faye tried to stop drinking and started up again several strips later. Given, she never wanted to stop drinking in the first place.  ). I do hope she gets moves on somewhat quickly. I expect that she will. She's been becoming more stable for a while now. (But that sad look on her face broke my heart. As bitchy as Faye is, I kind of love her.)

[Rocketman]

she is squishy so hugs are always enjoyable lol

We also both have big bwebs, so it would be one of those awesome squishy-bewb hugs that end up with someone yelling... "OMG MY NIPPLE"

Alright, you've got my attention.

[FoolOnTheHill]

I'm confused at the people who are saying that Sven only acted in character like it is a good thing.

I wasn't aware blatant douchebaggery warranted applause

Granted, Sven's a douche, but at the same time, really he didn't act in character. He regretted it the whole time and was up front with Faye when she first got there. That, and looking at how he wanted to hide it, I'd almost be willing to suggest that Sven actually feels something towards Faye. How much, I can't say though considering he nailed a musician.

However, I think we all have that list of people we'd bang regardless of relationship status we mentally carry around. I mean if Neko Case showed up at my house drunk and started hitting on me, I'm sorry, I'd have to take that opportunity.......*hint hint*

[Guido Sarducci]

Hmmm.  I hadn't considered mixing it with anything, actually.  Lemonade, you say?  Dew?

S

You don't mix Glenlivet with ANYTHING. If you must mix scotch with lemonade, or coke, or sour, or piss for that matter, use crown royal or some other cheap tasteless shit. Then you'll actually be helping it out 

[ponderch3rry]

she is squishy so hugs are always enjoyable lol

We also both have big bwebs, so it would be one of those awesome squishy-bewb hugs that end up with someone yelling... "OMG MY NIPPLE"

Alright, you've got my attention.

>.>

<.<

*panics*

~dances~

[mister mime]

bananacrackers

I think the facial expression in panel 5 is better then 4, as in it expresses the sad more effectively.

Sven's facial expression's of anticipation seem lost and I for one acknowledge that they make Faye's that much better.

I agree- in panel 4 she's kind of generically sad looking, but in 5 she just looks so uncomfortable, possibly on the verge of tears. the gesture of zipping her jacket back up was really sad... {:(

[mehmeh]

Does anyone follow Sven on twitter? His last tweet was practically as heartbreaking as the comic.

[JackFaerie]

I officially have a crush on Sven now. :-/  Although I'm sad both for him and Faye.

I don't get why people keep saying he's a douchebag or jerk or whatever.  It's like he's changed since his introduction, but people's perceptions of him haven't?  Come on, keep up already.  His slip up with Gina was boneheaded and regrettable but neither douchebaggy or jerky per se.  He did not owe Faye anything except what he delivered: honesty, at which point she would leave.  The situation is sad because BOTH of them wanted something more than what they were saying or perhaps even what they thought, so Sven screwed Faye over by ending something that meant more to her than she admitted, and screwed himself over for the same reason.  But the reason they were in a situation like this in the first place is every bit as much Faye's fault as his.

It sucks for both.  Sad faces all around.

[championofkhorne]

I officially have a crush on Sven now. :-/  Although I'm sad both for him and Faye.

the line for that is about length of Chile N-S

[l0l5saturdaynight]

Faye CANNOT be in a normal relationship as long as all her issues are unresolved. Well she can try but she will always end up getting hurt (not that I care she deserves all she's getting).

I thought I was the only one out there with this sentiment. 

I've seen girls pull crap like Faye all the time: lead some nice guy on till he's head over heels, then turn around and tell him he doesn't have a chance.  Maybe they blame it on some emotional issue, but when it comes down to it, they've just strung along some poor sod to boost their own ego while probably inflicting a host of psychological problems on someone whose only fault was to care for someone else. It's girls like Faye that are why many men label all women as crazy bitches; essentially, they're holding the whole gender down.  I was personally glad to see karma bite her in the ass.

[tweetles]

Hit a bit of a sore point huh?

[championofkhorne]

dont be mean to Faye, man, she has ISSUES.

lol

[l0l5saturdaynight]

Hit a bit of a sore point huh?

Pretty much.  I watched this girl I used to be friends with do it to a whole slew of guys; same story every time.  Uncommonly nice to the guy, hanging out constantly, then using him to get what she wanted, complete cock-tease when drunk, then laughed in their faces when they admitted their feelings to her.  She claimed she had abandonment issues, but she was just using people.  S'okay though.  She got fat in the end.

It just pisses me off that girls like that bring down the rest of us who aren't total bitches. Sort of a Penelope rant I suppose.

[NoU]

Pretty much.  I watched this girl I used to be friends with do it to a whole slew of guys; same story every time.  Uncommonly nice to the guy, hanging out constantly, then using him to get what she wanted, complete cock-tease when drunk, then laughed in their faces when they admitted their feelings to her.  She claimed she had abandonment issues, but she was just using people.  S'okay though.  She got fat in the end.

It just pisses me off that girls like that bring down the rest of us who aren't total bitches. Sort of a Penelope rant I suppose.

No, the people who bring down the "rest of us who aren't total bitches" are the people who make generalisations based on one person's behaviour. Sure, she used guys, but if those guys are idiots enough to think OMG ALL WOMEN ARE USERS I'M NEVER DATING AGAIN then quite frankly they're too stupid to be dating anything other than a lump of granite anyway.

And how did Faye "lead some nice guy on until he's head over heels"? They were friends that were having casual sex; (possibly) they developed feelings for each other, and then Sven screwed up and they're both dealing with the fallout. Faye is certainly both crazy and a bitch, but Sven is the guy who was incapable of telling women that he wasn't actually interested in them, going so far as to get Marten to help him avoid them. He's hardly "nice", unless you're going by the definition of "nice guy" used at heartless-bitches.com (although he's far too self aware to fall into that category).

I like Sven, but he knew he was going to hurt Faye when he slept with the country singer. Owning up to it at least shows that he's grown up enough to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Um, yeah, your comments made me angry enough that I had to sign up just to rant /o\

[PapaFrita]

The situation is sad because BOTH of them wanted something more than what they were saying or perhaps even what they thought, so Sven screwed Faye over by ending something that meant more to her than she admitted, and screwed himself over for the same reason.  But the reason they were in a situation like this in the first place is every bit as much Faye's fault as his.

It sucks for both.  Sad faces all around.

This is exactly it. Is a monogamous sexual relationship with no emotional attachment even possible? It's definitely not somethin you want to try.

[SrMeowMeow]

No, the people who bring down the "rest of us who aren't total bitches" are the people who make generalisations based on one person's behaviour. Sure, she used guys, but if those guys are idiots enough to think OMG ALL WOMEN ARE USERS I'M NEVER DATING AGAIN then quite frankly they're too stupid to be dating anything other than a lump of granite anyway.

And how did Faye "lead some nice guy on until he's head over heels"? They were friends that were having casual sex; (possibly) they developed feelings for each other, and then Sven screwed up and they're both dealing with the fallout. Faye is certainly both crazy and a bitch, but Sven is the guy who was incapable of telling women that he wasn't actually interested in them, going so far as to get Marten to help him avoid them. He's hardly "nice", unless you're going by the definition of "nice guy" used at heartless-bitches.com (although he's far too self aware to fall into that category).

...

Um, yeah, your comments made me angry enough that I had to sign up just to rant /o\

I'm pretty sure they meant Marten as the nice guy, not Sven.

Also, I think we can at least agree that both types bring down women: guys who generalize about all women based on one bad experience/bad person, and said bad women themselves. I say this with the full awareness and understanding that there are an equal amount of bad guys and this is in no way intended as an attack on women; I think we can accept the premise that there are bad people of both genders out there and neither are doing their gender any favors.

[Bendal]

One day, a frog and a scorpion reached a river.  "Carry me across on your back," suggested the scorpion to the frog.

"No, if I do you'll sting me and we'll both drown," says the frog.

"I promise I won't do that," says the scorpion.

"Ok, I'll do it," says the frog.

Halfway across, the scorpion plunges his stinger into the frog's back.  "Why did you do it?" groaned the frog.

The scorpion shrugged.  "It's in my nature and you knew it," he says as the water closed over him.

Sven is the scorpion; Faye knew this all along and should have realized he wasn't going to change for her.  At least she did what she said she'd do if he went out with someone else.

[kabukiman]

Sven is changing but very slowly. She would have to be patiente (like Marten was with her) and even so, knowing he could reverse to his former ways. So basically she wants someone with Sven carisma and look with Marten fidelity.

[JonSnow]

Sven is changing but very slowly. She would have to be patiente (like Marten was with her) and even so, knowing he could reverse to his former ways. So basically she wants someone with Sven carisma and look with Marten fidelity.

like faye knows what she wants lol.

Faye doesnt know what she wants that's one of the reasons this situation was created .

[Jace]

One day, a frog and a scorpion reached a river.  "Carry me across on your back," suggested the scorpion to the frog.

The scorpion shrugged.  "It's in my nature and you knew it," he says as the water closed over him.

Scorpions are assholes.

[jeph]

One day, a frog and a scorpion reached a river.  "Carry me across on your back," suggested the scorpion to the frog.

The scorpion shrugged.  "It's in my nature and you knew it," he says as the water closed over him.

Scorpions are assholes.

godDAMMIT now I have to rewrite tomorrow's comic

(faye was going to suck off a scorpion)

[maddness]

godDAMMIT now I have to rewrite tomorrow's comic

(faye was going to suck off a scorpion)

Just say no to bestiality, Jeph. Resist the temptation.


Also, I don't think Faye led Marten on. She wanted him, but she had her issues so she tried to keep it strictly friends. Marten knew she wanted a platonic relationship and still couldn't help having feelings for her. She stepped aside so that he could get together with Dora despite the fact that she had feelings for him because she knew she wasn't in a place to give him what he needed.

[SrMeowMeow]

I don't think Faye led him on maliciously, but she flirted with him a lot even though she had to be aware of both his feelings for her and her state of mind. All those little "oh is your arm around me because you're drunk or what" "hmm Marten I just don't know, aren't girls so mysterious" things 

[Tibbs]

You don't mix Glenlivet with ANYTHING. If you must mix scotch with lemonade, or coke, or sour, or piss for that matter, use crown royal or some other cheap tasteless shit. Then you'll actually be helping it out 
[/quote]

I'm a whisky drinker an I approve of this message. If it's from Scotland and Single Malt, it's good enough to get a glass to itself.

Anything else is like putting Ketchup (own label at that) on Foie Gras.

I look at the whole Sven thing as such:

Men go out with women hoping they'll never change; women go out with men hoping they will...

[maddness]

Oh, I know. When I mixed the Glenlivet with lemonade, and the man mixed it with Dew, I said to the man "We're going to hell, you know that don't you?"

But, ooohhhhh, it was gooooooooooood! I think you probably could mix Glenlivet with piss and have it come out tasty as hell.

Also, you put ketchup on anything and I'm likely to find it disgusting.

And I just don't get being with someone because you hope they'll change. What kind of crazy shit is that? I say find someone you like just the way they are and hope they don't change.

[Random832]

Sven is the scorpion; Faye knew this all along and should have realized he wasn't going to change for her.  At least she did what she said she'd do if he went out with someone else.

What's more, Sven never promised not to do anything. She said she'd leave if he had sex with someone else, and his reaction was "So be it.", not "I promise I won't". If she'd been thinking she should have dumped him right then.

[JackFaerie]

What's more, Sven never promised not to do anything. She said she'd leave if he had sex with someone else, and his reaction was "So be it.", not "I promise I won't". If she'd been thinking she should have dumped him right then.

Or, you know, revised her entitlement regarding the idea that she could expect someone to whom she wasn't willing to make an emotional commitment to commit to her in any way.  "I expect you to be my totally casual but also totally committed monogamous f&ckbuddy" just doesn't make any sense.