Topic: Wavves (Read 19071 times)

Tom · « **on:** 02 May 2009, 05:08 »

Does anyone actually like these guys or is just their F&F and blog zombies?

Anyone else think Nathan Williams is a talentless hack rehashing early 90's slacker DIY, lo-fi indie (Pavement, Sebadoh, GBV etc.) riding on the curtails of No Age and all those other trite 'shitgaze' bands?

Does anyone understand the hype these guys get 'cause I don't understand hipsters anymore?

Hey Pitchfork, why give Wavves an 8.1 and a "Daytripping" segment only to give Crocodiles, another band doing the exact same thing (no lie) a 4.1 and getting pissed off at them for trying to be "the next Wavves"?

WHY??? FUCK U SHITGAZE!!!

P-Frank · « **Reply #1 on:** 02 May 2009, 05:22 »

I like Crocodiles more than Wavves, but I do like the Wavves single. Watching a video of him performing live is fucking awful though. I don't think he is talentless though, he has written some nice songs.

Also Pitchfork loves to be contentious, do not listen to them. Sometimes they find cool bands, that some other blogger probably found first and they just re-posted, but that is good enough for me.

And Shitgaze is the worst name for a genre and I think it is just Vice Magazine having a laugh as usual.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2 on:** 02 May 2009, 06:38 »

Shitgaze is very, very hit or miss with me.

Mostly miss. It is called "shitgaze" for a reason, folks.

Kyros · « **Reply #3 on:** 02 May 2009, 07:46 »

I like Wavves well enough, but he certainly has gotten way more attention then some of the other similar artists like Crocodiles.

I don't really understand, cause in my mind Wavves only has 2 songs. So Bored, and No Hope Kids. Awesome fucking songs, but that album is definitely not an 8.1.

Will · « **Reply #4 on:** 02 May 2009, 07:48 »

I have long been under the impression that Pitchfork writes music reviews for people who hate music.

michaelicious · « **Reply #5 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:20 »

How do you pronounce that shit?

michaelicious · « **Reply #6 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:24 »

Wait is it this band?

Tehz · « **Reply #7 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:42 »

He has a few good songs but the majority of it just seems to be all hype. He sounds awful live, too.

Retrospectre · « **Reply #8 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:43 »

I checked his music out since I like No Age but it didn't do much for me.

valley_parade · « **Reply #9 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:51 »

I mean guys, come on.

Sounding this shitty and intentionally lo-fi is what you do when you're in a black metal band.

Hat · « **Reply #10 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:57 »

Shane I am sorry but I listen to prog all your music sounds lo-fi to me

Hat · « **Reply #11 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:57 »

although I read somewhere in the street press that production values are subjective

Hat · « **Reply #12 on:** 02 May 2009, 08:59 »

For reals though if your album cost less than ten thousand dollars to master and you are not the Mountain Goats you probably just sound like dogshit yes this does include you Dan Bejar

AND ALL INDEPENDENT MUSICIANS EVERYWHERE

(I am not completely joking about this)

valley_parade · « **Reply #13 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:10 »

I really do not like Destroyer. Just shut up and be in the New Pornographers, Dan Bejar.

Hat · « **Reply #14 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:13 »

Shane you should consider being an advisor to the stars if that is not what you are already doing

Joseph · « **Reply #15 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:14 »

Shane is why Metallica are how they are.

Hat · « **Reply #16 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:19 »

Do you mean he is responsible for all post AJFA albums or just the last two albums?

I cannot tell I deal with many different subtle kinds of people who think Metallica sold out, for example I once met a man who thought Metallica had sold out their thrash roots after Master of Puppets (that is my favourite opinion about Metallica to date)

valley_parade · « **Reply #17 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:22 »

I still want a refund for buying St. Anger.

A mental refund.

BlahBlah · « **Reply #18 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:37 »

Quote from: Kyros on 02 May 2009, 07:46

I like Wavves well enough, but he certainly has gotten way more attention then some of the other similar artists like Crocodiles.

I don't really understand, cause in my mind Wavves only has 2 songs. So Bored, and No Hope Kids. Awesome fucking songs, but that album is definitely not an 8.1.

Very true. The noisy electronic parts are really pointless and crap.

It's just pronounced as Waves, that's the way he says it in the pitchfork video. He's playing in Glasgow in June, I'm not sure if I should go or not. Everyone says he's awful live.

Wasteroo · « **Reply #19 on:** 02 May 2009, 09:56 »

I can listen to it, but it's not like my favorite or anything.

However, I do really like the track Side Yr On from Wavves (or Wavvves?)

imapiratearg · « **Reply #20 on:** 02 May 2009, 10:31 »

"So Bored" is really catchy. It reminds me of old Guided By Voices.

scarred · « **Reply #21 on:** 02 May 2009, 13:22 »

For every good Wavves song, there's about 5 shitty ones.

Wasteroo · « **Reply #22 on:** 02 May 2009, 13:42 »

You know, upon listening to Wavvves, I think you fellows might like his debut LP more. It concentrates more on the shimmering 60s revival that he's actually pretty good at, rather than his strange and kinda unpleasant genre experimentations.

nice! · « **Reply #23 on:** 02 May 2009, 17:30 »

I don't understand all the wavves hate these days.
plus, whats wrong with shitgaze?

Joseph · « **Reply #24 on:** 02 May 2009, 17:40 »

Top five worst genre names ever?

Will · « **Reply #25 on:** 02 May 2009, 17:44 »

Quote from: Joseph on 02 May 2009, 17:40

Top five worst genre names ever?

I vote twee as one of the worst.

Tom · « **Reply #26 on:** 02 May 2009, 17:46 »

Somebody made a parody band.

scarred · « **Reply #27 on:** 02 May 2009, 19:34 »

^- That is freaking amazing.

Tehz · « **Reply #28 on:** 02 May 2009, 20:27 »

That is beyond awesome. I found "Muy Abburido" to be quite enjoyable.

iamiam · « **Reply #29 on:** 03 May 2009, 00:13 »

Weird. I was never into Wavves until I saw this. Something about it really made me want to check them out, and now I dig it.

jeph · « **Reply #30 on:** 03 May 2009, 00:28 »

I gave up on Pitchfork as a source for useful music opinions when they gave Ponytail and Ariel Pink good reviews, that shit is utterly awful

David_Dovey · « **Reply #31 on:** 03 May 2009, 00:49 »

Wait Jeph isn't that very recently

Johnny C · « **Reply #32 on:** 03 May 2009, 03:06 »

Quote from: Hat on 02 May 2009, 08:57

Shane I am sorry but I listen to prog

don't apologize to shane man apologize to yourself

valley_parade · « **Reply #33 on:** 03 May 2009, 08:17 »

Quote from: Tom on 02 May 2009, 17:46

Somebody made a parody band.

Oh god that is fantastic.

jeph · « **Reply #34 on:** 03 May 2009, 14:11 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 03 May 2009, 00:49

Wait Jeph isn't that very recently

yes

I tried to keep an open mind for a very long time

Wasteroo · « **Reply #35 on:** 03 May 2009, 17:16 »

It's like I'm the only person on this entire forum (perhaps on the entire internet) who doesn't seem to hate Pitchfork with seething, jaw-clenchingly intense rage.

michaelicious · « **Reply #36 on:** 03 May 2009, 17:24 »

I think Pitchfork is pretty alright. They don't really seem to pay much attention to the music I personally care about these days, though. I like Pitchfork.tv a lot and their featured articles are occasionally pretty interesting. I think the reason people seem to hate the site so much is because it has become difficult to view it as a group of individuals with their own opinions writing about music; it seems to have evolved into a monolithic taste-making beast and I don't think that is something many people want to have their opinions associated with.

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #37 on:** 03 May 2009, 18:39 »

I didn't like Wavves live really, but he DID make fun of my roommate's stupid boyfriend so therefore he's okay by me. Vampire Hands opened and I liked them a lot more. They're a psych-y kind of fun and were way better live than what I'm listening to online. IE don't sound like they're in a tiny metal shack.

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** 03 May 2009, 19:05 »

Quote from: michaelicious on 03 May 2009, 17:24

I think Pitchfork is pretty alright. They don't really seem to pay much attention to the music I personally care about these days, though. I like Pitchfork.tv a lot and their featured articles are occasionally pretty interesting. I think the reason people seem to hate the site so much is because it has become difficult to view it as a group of individuals with their own opinions writing about music; it seems to have evolved into a monolithic taste-making beast and I don't think that is something many people want to have their opinions associated with.

This is pretty much how I view it.

Alex C · « **Reply #39 on:** 03 May 2009, 19:56 »

I like Vampire Hands. Nice percussion stuff and their production doesn't suck.

BrittanyMarie · « **Reply #40 on:** 04 May 2009, 00:25 »

Sometimes multiple drummers bug me but VH are so good. \o alex

the Goat · « **Reply #41 on:** 10 May 2009, 21:45 »

I like the album, but I was a little disappointed in them live. It was so clean, and the fuzz on the album is what I liked about it. It doesn't take much to re-enact that either; you just need crappy equipment pushed to within an inch of his life. When I saw him he had a drummer and himself, playing a brand new, really expensive guitar through a Vintage Marshall rig. I'm probably the only person who cares about this, but it's a real turn off seeing a scuzz rock band with equipment they bought with their parents money. I still like the album, and if they come to Baltimore again I'll probably go see them, but they're not the second coming.

I'll have to check out Crocodiles, though. Thanks for the rec.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #42 on:** 10 May 2009, 22:11 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 08:17

Quote from: Tom on 02 May 2009, 17:46
Somebody made a parody band.

Oh god that is fantastic.

I really enjoyed that. Is there something wrong with me?

Alex C · « **Reply #43 on:** 11 May 2009, 10:03 »

Quote from: BrittanyMarie on 04 May 2009, 00:25

Sometimes multiple drummers bug me but VH are so good. \o alex

They still have grooves. I like my rhythm sections to be about well, rhythm. Their drummers reinforce eachother rather than just wank all over the place.

the Goat · « **Reply #44 on:** 13 May 2009, 21:09 »

Also, if anyone saw that live footage that Pitchfork posted, you should know that he's not as bad live as he is in that footage (at least he wasn't when I saw him). After I saw that my heart sank and I was genuinely perplexed. Still, I went to his show and was happily surprised to see that it was not as bad as P-fork.tv made it out to be.

It wasn't live changing, but it was alright. I went in with really low expectations and was surprised.

valley_parade · « **Reply #45 on:** 31 May 2009, 11:41 »

Not bad live?

http://pitchfork.com/news/35459-wavves-self-destruct-in-barcelona/

This has to be one of the funniest things I've heard in a LONG time.

Tehz · « **Reply #46 on:** 31 May 2009, 12:48 »

There have to exist videos of this. There just HAVE to.

Johnny C · « **Reply #47 on:** 31 May 2009, 14:44 »

That article makes me so mad. Its tone is deeply condescending.

I guess fuck this guy for suddenly finding himself famous thanks to Pitchfork? So glad they were able to set him up and then mock him when shit falls through.

Koremora · « **Reply #48 on:** 31 May 2009, 14:45 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 31 May 2009, 14:44

That article makes me so mad. Its tone is deeply condescending.

I guess fuck this guy for suddenly finding himself famous thanks to Pitchfork? So glad they were able to set him up and then mock him when shit falls through.

This. What a douchebaggy backstab move that was.

Babpacih · « **Reply #49 on:** 31 May 2009, 14:56 »

in the classic words of general disarray (kinda) "NO WAVE DID IT! NO WAVE DID IT!"
except No New York kicks all this new craps ass.

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