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Author Topic: WCDT: 2505-2509 (August 5-9, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread  (Read 69539 times)

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The OED agrees with Akima about spelling, with the primary entry being "moxie" and others listed as variants.

I will assume that reproducing the entry for one word, for educational purposes, is fair use:
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Pronunciation:  Brit.    /ˈmɒksi/ , U.S. /ˈmɑksi/
Forms:  19– moxey, 19– moxie, 19– moxy.
Etymology:  < Moxie, the proprietary name of an American soft drink (first manufactured in 1884 or 1885, and originally sold as a patent medicine; further etymology uncertain: for a suggestion see Dict. Amer. Regional Eng. s.v.).(Show Less)
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  Courage, audacity, spirit; energy, vigour; enterprise; skill, shrewdness.

[1890   H. C. De Mille Men & Women in America's Lost Plays (1941) XVII. 290   Young man, you've got nerve enough to start a Moxie factory.]
1930   D. Runyon in Collier's 20 Dec. 32/3   Personally, I always figure Louie a petty-larceny kind of guy, with no more moxie than a canary bird.
1934   M. H. Weseen Dict. Amer. Slang 215   Moxie, ability and skill as a baseball player.
1943   M. Shulman Barefoot Boy xv. 158   We knew you had the old moxie, the old get out and get.
1955   Publ. Amer. Dial. Soc. xxiv. 94   If he admits his own limitations, he loses his nerve (blows his moxie).
1970   New Yorker 29 Aug. 19/1   It takes moxie, skill, and self-reliance.
1987   Golf Monthly July 19/1   So watch him; follow him. Those with the moxy may even wager on him.
1994   Denver Post 30 Jan. a10/1   Rifkin acquired a toupee, flashy clothes, and enough business moxie to corner the market on Denver nightlife.
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QC characters with glasses:

Square frames:
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Non-square frames:
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I think I've noticed a certain type of bias in the QC-verse.
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QC characters with glasses:

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Non-square frames:
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I think I've noticed a certain type of bias in the QC-verse.

I think its more of a fashion than a bias.
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Kobolds are reptilian and do not have dicks.
Reptiles are not without penises. Male turtles and crocodiles have fairly conventional single centrally mounted dicks. Snakes and lizards have two hemipenises, either of which might be termed a dick. I know nothing of the evolutionary history of kobolds, so I cannot say which is more likely in them, and I am not inclined to investigate.

The originator of the term may have been spelled Moxie, but everything since then that used it as a name has spelled it Moxy.
Not so. A moment's googling reveals: Phil Weld's OSTAR-winning trimaran yacht Moxie., Moxie Girlz dolls, Moxie feminine hygiene products, and the Moxie photo-filter sharing network. Google gives 9,150,000 hits for "moxie" and 4,570,000 for "moxy".  Clearly there are alternative spellings, but "moxie" seems to be preferred. Most image hits for "moxy" are Norwegian dump-trucks.
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Kobolds are reptilian and do not have dicks.

In modern fantasy they've been dog people until dnd decided 'we need more lizardpeople!' for no real good reason.

May is clearly a grognard.
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Do you get the sense Momo knows May some how?

Also yes May, that is an entirely appropriate reaction to Marigold. Can it be Monday now?
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QC characters with glasses:

Square frames:
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Non-square frames:
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Sven
Fixed.

Also Angus occasionally wears glasses, but I'm too lazy to look up which shape.
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Since everyone else has a theory for how Momo set this up, mine is that Dale's shift ends when the pizza place shuts, and so it was just a matter of ordering the pizza at the last possible moment before they stopped taking orders.
And knowing that Dale was working the late shift that day.
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Alright, after more than a year I'm done lurking.
I can't categorically say to any of you whether the genitalia of kobolds or the etymology of the word "moxy/moxie" brought me out of hiding, but I appreciate the discussion of such topics.

Anyways, salutations!
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I personally think "You suck kobold dicks" is one of the greatest insults ever.
Up there with "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" :)

Also, the more of May I see the more I wish I had her :/  She acts out like almost exactly what I would do/say if I wasn't forced to have this.. "civility" :) 
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Admiration of Marigold's epic jollywhoppers is the great universal constant of the QC universe.
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Do you get the sense Momo knows May some how?

Well Momo clearly knows of her. Which is unsurprising as if criminal  AIs are uncommon, then May may be recognizable and notorious amongst AIs, even if she's comparatively unknown to humans. 

Though I can imagine when an AI meets a stranger, it's possible (perhaps even routine) for them to instantly trawl for public information on the other individual. 
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I want May and Momo to hang out regularly. They're insanely amusing.

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Momo's expression in the last panel. Just. |D

But yes, I, too, am enjoying the kobold discussion despite lack of input.
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QC characters with glasses:
Fixed.

Amended List!

Square frames:
Dale
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Jim
Marigold
Renee

Non-square frames:
Angus
Claire
Clinton
Penelope
Sven
Tai
Veronica
Wil

I think I've noticed a certain type of bias in the QC-verse.

Nobody wears contacts!!  :-P
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Well, we don't know that. How do we know the people without glasses all have perfect vision?
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I'm betting Angus wears contacts when without glasses.  I think he mentioned it, but I'm not going archive diving today. 
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IIRC, without archive crawling, Faye's too nearsighted for contacts. Dunno about anyone else.
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Wait, Faye's nearsighted? I thought nearsighted meant you could see things that were close to you and had trouble with distance. Considering not having glasses made her fall into a toilet, I'd say she's the opposite.
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I'm nearsighted and can't see anything more than about two feet from my face, so I could see something like that happening.
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Geez, gotta qualify everything. Everything on the Wikipedia disambiguation for the word.

Also, why do I feel like I'm being corrected for saying there are multiple valid spellings when all evidence presented since that statement confirms it?

And why, of all the things I said, were the only responses corrections?
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Kobolds are reptilian and do not have dicks.

In modern fantasy they've been dog people until dnd decided 'we need more lizardpeople!' for no real good reason.

May is clearly a grognard.

Likely, given that kobolds were reptilian back when I played AD&D in the early to mid 80s....
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In the early to mid 80s, kobolds were still related to goblins. 3rd edition made them related to dragons in 1999.

I can't believe there's a wikipedia entry on D&D Kobolds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29
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The article you link to says that the first edition of AD&D made them reptilian. The 1978 Monster Manual does not mention any relationships. It does say that they have a 75% chance of speaking the languages of orcs and goblins. OTOH in the picture, which is the same as in the Wikipedia article, the kobold has scales, if it is not wearing scale armor.
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Alright, after more than a year I'm done lurking.
I can't categorically say to any of you whether the genitalia of kobolds or the etymology of the word "moxy/moxie" brought me out of hiding, but I appreciate the discussion of such topics.

Anyways, salutations!

Welcome, sorta-new person!
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I'm constantly baffled by the things people on the forum take seriously.
I find that amusing considering your namesake.

Conversations like this occur not because everyone fails to recognize hyperbole (or sarcasm or whatever), but because if they acknowledged it there would be less to talk about. And by talk, I mean my signature.

Look, abolishing Congress is a serious matter. Just sayin. :P

Also, its more that people take things like Momo making an obviously hyperbolic threat seriously and are entertaining the ethical implications of something that obviously wasn't a real threat.

Its like no one hear has ever had someone threaten them with bodily harm jokingly. I mean, if I had a dollar for every time my wife told me she would cut me if I ate the last of something, I would be rich. Like, seriously, her cutting me for eating the last slice of pizza is ethically very wrong. This is a given. There is no connection though that she actually would do it. And I know. She hasn't yet and I keep eating the last of things.
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Maybe she just means she'll get in front of you next time you're in line for something.
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Kobolds are reptilian and do not have dicks.

In modern fantasy they've been dog people until

Angband players second this.
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Its like no one hear has ever had someone threaten them with bodily harm jokingly. I mean, if I had a dollar for every time my wife told me she would cut me if I ate the last of something, I would be rich. Like, seriously, her cutting me for eating the last slice of pizza is ethically very wrong. This is a given. There is no connection though that she actually would do it. And I know. She hasn't yet and I keep eating the last of things.

When you're found lying an a pool of blood, we'll point the police to this thread. :mrgreen:
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Its like no one here has ever had someone threaten them with bodily harm jokingly. I mean, if I had a dollar for every time my wife told me she would cut me if I ate the last of something, I would be rich. Like, seriously, her cutting me for eating the last slice of pizza is ethically very wrong. This is a given. There is no connection though that she actually would do it. And I know. She hasn't yet and I keep eating the last of things.
When you're found lying an a pool of blood, we'll point the police to this thread. :mrgreen:
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With a thousand tiny, tiny cuts.

Only a thousand? You underestimate my appetite.
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Am I the only one who noticed May is BLUSHING when she tells dale to Suck Kobold Dicks?
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Uhm... I totally noticed that... yeah...


Congratulations and welcome, observant new person!
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Congratulations and welcome, observant new person!

Mercy Buckets.
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Why are we arguing about the anatomy of hypothetical rat/dog/lizard creatures, when it is far better to discuss the awesomeness of Marigold's knockers?

I mean, even beings incapable of touch and who lack genitals are in awe of them.
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Why are we arguing about the anatomy of hypothetical rat/dog/lizard creatures, when it is far better to discuss the awesomeness of Marigold's knockers?

I mean, even beings incapable of touch and who lack genitals are in awe of them.

The real question is, can we make Jeph draw a size comparrison chart of all his females in underwear/swimsuits?

After all, my biggest burning question is... who's bust is bigger? Marigold or Dora?
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The real question is, can we make Jeph draw a size comparrison chart of all his females in underwear/swimsuits?

After all, my biggest burning question is... who's bust is bigger? Marigold or Dora?

Oh, I can only hope he someday does.
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Better yet, QC swimsuit calendar. Each month is Faye giving you the finger.
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After all, my biggest burning question is... who's bust is bigger? Marigold or Dora?

I assume you mean Faye instead of Dora. And I think that question has been answered.
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We'll eventually find out that Marigold meant May




And on Monday

We're back to CoD till Thursday.
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We're back to CoD

where Steve is eating waffles.
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After all, my biggest burning question is... who's bust is bigger? Marigold or Dora?

I assume you mean Faye instead of Dora. And I think that question has been answered.

I stand corrected, Good Sir.
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We know so little about AI-related ethics that even threats that aren't meant seriously are interesting to discuss.

The diagnosis that best fits what we've seen of The Pugnacious Peach's vision problems is funnyopia.
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Maybe we need a combination of the random thoughts and weekly comic discussion threads.

I just had an existential QC-verse thought:

What if the big news Jeph mentioned is a major plot twist? Could it be that the QC-verse is in fact a false reality electronically created and implanted into the consciousness of May? The characters may be based off real humans, but maybe her crime was worth the effort of creating and running an artificial reality full of artificial intelligences (and artificial artificial intelligences) solely for the purpose of those AIs one day helping to rehabilitate a criminal.

Actually, what if May is in fact a real human being who has had her consciousness downloaded for the purpose of modifying and returning it to its body for the rehab?

Can AIs actually be CREATED? Is there a limited number? Did all programs simultaneously develop consciousness while some did not?

Wouldn't it be ethically wrong to modify a person's memories and consciousness solely for the purpose of teaching them a lesson that may or may not have actually been based on a real event?

QC may be a simulation in the real world that runs on a supercomputer for the purpose of observing artificial intelligences over time. Perhaps I am inside this simulation, as are all of you.

I should probably go to sleep.
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That's a long chain of speculation, and to me at least it doesn't really fit with QC's history for it to suddenly be entirely for the benefit of of May (who really has come out of nowhere narrative-wise). Yes, QC adds characters frequently and they become an important part of the story when that happens (cf Claire), but they're not suddenly the central character. At the end of the day, that's still Marten.

IMO this arc will wind up being long-needed character development for Marigold.

On what I originally came here to post, where, if ever, was this kobold reference made in-comic?
Edit: Cthulhu, how did I miss that? 2509, panel 2, lower left.
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Marigold was OK with a boob compliment when it came from someone she knew and had some reason to trust.

I'm not convinced she would be as okay with it in front of Dale.

Am I the only one who noticed May is BLUSHING when she tells dale to Suck Kobold Dicks?

It's not that hard to figure out why.
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What if the big news Jeph mentioned is a major plot twist?

 We'll know for sure next week:
 
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