Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 395620 times)

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2400 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 07:50 »

@Akima and Ballard; Thanks for the advice, I'll have a go

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2401 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 08:57 »

Quote from: Lummer on 14 Jan 2011, 06:30

S7420, the MIJ version. And yes, Ceramic Piggie it is.

Brainfart on my part. I'm going to need soundclips, though.
You know where to look if you want to sell that one too some day...

Lummer · « **Reply #2402 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 09:33 »

From my cold, dead hands, dude...

Cold.. Dead..

Kwaping · « **Reply #2403 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 10:35 »

I've heard good things about repairing stripped wood holes with toothpicks and wood glue, too. Just break them off to the right length. That sounds much easier than chiseling or filing.

Patrick · « **Reply #2404 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 14:24 »

I just used a 2-part wood filler mixture when I had to fill the stripped-out mount for the mute on my Jag. More expensive, but also way tougher. If you wanna go straight up pro status, that's the way to go. I plan on doing that with my Johnson Stratoclone when I have the resources to do a proper restomod job on it.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2405 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 15:05 »

Quote from: Lummer on 14 Jan 2011, 09:33

From my cold, dead hands, dude...

Cold.. Dead..

Well, 'scuse me while I head over to my longboat to fuckin' pillage it then...

After you install the Pig of course, Solder is HOT!

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2406 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 18:56 »

Quote from: Patrick on 14 Jan 2011, 14:24

I just used a 2-part wood filler mixture when I had to fill the stripped-out mount for the mute on my Jag.

Is that stuff basically some kind of epoxy thing? kinda fiberglassy? I imagine its advantage would be ease and simplicity of use. Is cleanup a pain?

As a sidenote, regular, run-of-the mill wood filler is never as good as wood for fixing holes and such. It's crumbly and messy, if much easier.

There's a neat trick for sizing pegs for filling holes- drill out the hole, and with the same size drill bit, drill a hole in a scrap piece of metal plate. whittle a piece of wood slightly larger than said hole and pound it through the hole in the metal, and you have a perfectly round, perfectly sized dowel to fill the hole. Since it's compressed, once it's in there with a little glue, it's a perfect, snug fit.

Patrick · « **Reply #2407 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 20:22 »

The advantage to the two-part filler is shear strength (although I would not recommend it if anybody's looking for flex strength). It's more labor-intensive than a toothpick and wood glue, but significantly stronger than that or any pre-mixed wood filler (like you said). It can be messy if you're not careful; I used a toothpick to mix the two parts together, and a different toothpick to push the mixture into the screw hole. Then a little wee drill bit to make a hole that would accommodate the screw after it had dried for about two hours (instructions recommended less time than that but I wasn't taking chances).

The nice thing about it was that the smooth finish on the body didn't allow for much of the stuff to stick to the finish itself, so it was removed pretty easily with an xacto knife blade. Bam, instant cleanup.

I do like your suggestion of the compressed dowel as opposed to the simple "stick something in there that fits", because it will naturally want to expand in the hole. The combination of that and the expansion that the glue will try to cause as it sinks into the wood will make for a very, very secure fit, I would venture to guess. I never thought of doing that. I wonder if that wouldn't actually be stronger than the 2-part wood filler. We will have to prove it with Science.

Christophe · « **Reply #2408 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 20:50 »

By the by, here's the new Douglas Classic/Melody Maker copy:

Bearer · « **Reply #2409 on:** 14 Jan 2011, 21:01 »

Holy shit guys. Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles. Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2410 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 02:03 »

There's a few suggestions going around, I may try Cernonnus's solution as it sounds pretty nifty, failing that I'll beack up on the wood-filler method. Thanks for all the advice.

@Cristophe; I never rated Melody Makers as much as Les Paul Jr.s but that is pretty sweet.

ESKIMO ROBOCOP · « **Reply #2411 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 06:52 »

Quote from: Bearer on 14 Jan 2011, 21:01

Holy shit guys. Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles. Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.

How long will the effects last before you need to redo the procedure?

Sounds kind of like voodoo to me, whats the science behind this?

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2412 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 06:56 »

Quote from: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 15 Jan 2011, 06:52

Quote from: Bearer on 14 Jan 2011, 21:01
Holy shit guys. Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles. Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.

How long will the effects last before you need to redo the procedure?

Sounds kind of like voodoo to me, whats the science behind this?

I suppose it's tweaking the bridge, neck and tuners back to their fresh out of the factory feel.

Patrick · « **Reply #2413 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 09:06 »

I'm skeptical myself. I've done that to my Jag, my El Degas hollowbody, and my best friend's Strat over the last couple of years. I used a watch to measure the sustain before and after. I followed those steps, as well as the steps I read in a different version of the same tip. Not a second's worth of difference.

I think what's happening is that maybe you weren't listening for the sustain before. Sometimes, you hear what you want to hear.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2414 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 10:34 »

I was wondering if it might be entirely subjective. Some argue that the whole thing about bolt-on necks not sustaining as well as set-necks is a complete misnomer, bad bolt-ons may not sustain well, but good ones will. And think about all the great strat players who have fantastic tone.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2415 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 11:47 »

Not to mention that sustain isn't the end-all be-all of guitar performance and tone in the first place. It's never been a particularly serious concern of mine, but then I'm not actually any good at guitar so it doesn't matter that much anyways i guess

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2416 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 11:52 »

If you genuinely worry about sustain, than you might just be a member of Sunn O))). People who give a shit about that need to learn how to play notes less than thirty seconds apart.

Seriously.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2417 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 11:55 »

To me "sustain" (and the acquisition of neverending amounts of it) seems to be mostly the secondmost concern of Blooz Attorneys, right behind "creamy tone" and just ahead of "soulful licks".

doombilly · « **Reply #2418 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 12:20 »

sustain, man just turn the right knob on your moog e1, DUH.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2419 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 13:08 »

Cernunnos · « **Reply #2420 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 16:29 »

On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking? I don't really know what I'm doing but I love it. Right now the only two patterns that make intuitive sense to my brain are fingers 1,2,3,4,3,2,1 (simple, boring arpeggio blaaaahhh) or 1,3,2,4. I am starting to work in alternating bass on the low e and d strings now and am quite pleased about it because i hadn't really ever tried it before a very short while ago. This way of playing guitar just makes sense to my brain and is lots of fun, even with short nails.

Anyways: any of y'all got tricks or tips? Picking patterns you really like? Ergonomic/carpal tunnel warnings? The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?

Melodic · « **Reply #2421 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 18:23 »

I love fingerpicking! There's a great tab floating around for Do Make Say Think's "Tender History In Rust" in some archaic tuning (FFDfCf I think) that is just the most ridiculously fun thing to play ever.

celticgeek · « **Reply #2422 on:** 15 Jan 2011, 21:26 »

I also love fingerpicking. I tend to use it in most of my playing, rather than strumming. There are some pretty nifty patterns here:

fingerpicking patterns. And you can save the patterns to your home computer and then print them out.

I have a number of patterns that I have picked up here and there, but I started out using an ancient book (copyright 1974) named Abe and Malka's 100 Guitar
Accompaniment Patterns. . See here. There must be other such books around. Check out amazon.com for example.

And have fun!

doombilly · « **Reply #2423 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 05:22 »

Quote from: Cernunnos on 15 Jan 2011, 16:29

On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking?

I do, but it is because my 1st instrument was a 5 string banjo. I modify the alternating thumb roll, and the forward/reverse roll and the other one they taught me in Ronald Reagan's 1st term. But I doubt I could diagram it or tell you how I apply it to the guitar. So I should probably just STFU. I've tried to do several songs using this style and usually I just cannot get the sound I want to match the bass/drums and end up going back to jangling strumming with a pick. Also finger picks, I'm actually trying to find locally with no luck. I got some thumbpicks, but guitard center doesn't have the metal fpicks. Not sure I could get used to them, but it might help me get the volume/attack I need.

Patrick · « **Reply #2424 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 12:38 »

Quote from: Cernunnos on 15 Jan 2011, 16:29

On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking? I don't really know what I'm doing but I love it. Right now the only two patterns that make intuitive sense to my brain are fingers 1,2,3,4,3,2,1 (simple, boring arpeggio blaaaahhh) or 1,3,2,4. I am starting to work in alternating bass on the low e and d strings now and am quite pleased about it because i hadn't really ever tried it before a very short while ago. This way of playing guitar just makes sense to my brain and is lots of fun, even with short nails.

Anyways: any of y'all got tricks or tips? Picking patterns you really like? Ergonomic/carpal tunnel warnings? The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?

I am very, very partial to Bert Jansch, Nick Drake, James Taylor and Mark Knopfler. I draw the line at Leo Kottke.

There's always gotta be that one artist who is just a dick, you know?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2425 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 12:43 »

Quote from: Patrick on 16 Jan 2011, 12:38

There's always gotta be that one artist who is just a dick, you know?

Quote from: Patrick on 16 Jan 2011, 12:38

Mark Knopfler

Patrick · « **Reply #2426 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 12:44 »

Let me qualify: I only listen to Dire Straits' self-titled.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #2427 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 12:54 »

Dang I was hoping you'd outright defend him so I could link to a +10-minute live version of "Sultans of Swing"

Rot10Kid · « **Reply #2428 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 13:21 »

As soon as I get my paycheck, this'll be my new baby. Well, not this one exactly, but one from work (Guitar Center).

Patrick · « **Reply #2429 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 13:26 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 16 Jan 2011, 12:54

Dang I was hoping you'd outright defend him so I could link to a +10-minute live version of "Sultans of Swing"

Ugh. I'm glad I disappointed you that way, hah.

doombilly · « **Reply #2430 on:** 16 Jan 2011, 13:34 »

Quote from: Cernunnos on 15 Jan 2011, 16:29

The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?

I missed this part. Don't end up like this guy:

but that might involve head injury... hair loss, hearing loss, gout, beri beri, & a bad taste in your mouth that spreads to your ears...

Melodic · « **Reply #2431 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 01:00 »

Quote from: Rot10Kid on 16 Jan 2011, 13:21

from work (Guitar Center)

I always suspected Guitar Center employees of listening to nothing but '90s pop-punk, but it's nice to have it settled once and for all

Patrick · « **Reply #2432 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 02:01 »

I'd have figured it'd be a Vai/Petrucci/Satriani mix.

Or maybe that's just their preferred fanfic scenario.

Lummer · « **Reply #2433 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 02:34 »

hey look what my friend just got:

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2434 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 08:12 »

I have to agree.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2435 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 08:57 »

Pig-90? Denmark just got it's awesome quota raised.

Lummer · « **Reply #2436 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:12 »

...aaaand I've ordered a Ceramic Warpig for my 7-string now.

valley_parade · « **Reply #2437 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:14 »

I um....did that say 22k?

Lummer · « **Reply #2438 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:15 »

Yes. And it's a p90.

Where is your God now?

valley_parade · « **Reply #2439 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:23 »

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #2440 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:28 »

Oh man, I really want to put all-black covered Warpigs in my Carvin now, and it already has a lundgren M7 in it.

indeed

Lummer · « **Reply #2441 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 12:29 »

There will be clips.

May God have mercy on us all.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2442 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 13:14 »

Quote from: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 12:29

There will be clips.

May God have mercy on us all.

I was going to demand clips of doom, but I wasn't certain the forum would be able to handle it.

22k? I'm going to sound really n00bish here, but what's the norm?

valley_parade · « **Reply #2443 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 13:20 »

I thought most normal pickups were like 9-12k.

Lummer · « **Reply #2444 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 13:32 »

Most regular pickups are 9-12k, yeah. An EMG 81 is like 15, and a DiMarzio X2N is about 17 if I recall correctly.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #2445 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 13:40 »

Wow, those are quite some P90s, I don't reckon you could get a clean sound out of them even if you tried. =P

Lummer · « **Reply #2446 on:** 17 Jan 2011, 13:48 »

Well, DC resistance is only that, just DC resistance. The Pig 90 still sounds pretty good clean.

Lummer · « **Reply #2447 on:** 18 Jan 2011, 00:08 »

Guys I am pretty psyched to receive that P90 today. Are you psyched?

The Duke · « **Reply #2448 on:** 18 Jan 2011, 09:10 »

Totally psyched.

Lummer · « **Reply #2449 on:** 18 Jan 2011, 09:27 »

I HAVE IT

IT IS IN MY PLACE OF RESIDENCE NOW

BUT FIRST

STEAK DINNER

THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)

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