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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2550 on: 30 Jan 2011, 08:37 »

Why not just buy a... You know... good pickup for the bridge position!?

Do those GFS things have any selling point, apart from just being inexpensive?

Yeah, they have just the most exquisitely muddy tone.


Honestly though, some their high-output pickups are intensely similar to Ibanez stocks. Their vintage-influenced stuff tends to do the trick of sounding old and near-microphonic though.
That's my experience with them at least.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2551 on: 30 Jan 2011, 08:41 »

thirty bucks is expensive for a pickup? 

to put in a guitar that i got for a hundred dollars?






Thirty bucks is disturbingly cheap, and I would never, ever trust anything that cheap (in relative terms) to be of even remotely acceptable quality.

You could have grabbed a used Seymour Duncan or similar off craigslist or ebay for what... ten bucks more.
Of course, being the now dyed-in-the-wool Bare Knuckle fanboy that I am, I see no problem in putting pickups into a guitar that cost more than the actual instrument. For my needs, that guitar would kick all sorts of ass with like... a Nailbomb og War Pig in the bridge. Maybe a Mule too.
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« Reply #2552 on: 30 Jan 2011, 08:53 »

whoops misread your post and confused expensive/inexpensive


The more I think about it, the more the idea of having a really good pickup in this thing sounds awesome. It really really needs new tuners first though. It will be a few months before I deal with that, currently I am in a different state from said instrument.

Not a fan of fenders: this pickup has the opposite problem, if anything. It's really bright.

In the meantime I have a little pine box that once held tea, scrap wood for a neck, and three crappy strat pickups, and access to a full wood shop.  Crappy cigar box slide guitar anyone?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2553 on: 30 Jan 2011, 09:05 »

It is most definitely cigar box slide guitar time. If you don't do this, I will track you down and hit you with sticks.

But yeah, the pickups really ARE a huge part of the sound. Or a huge part of the part of the sound not directly related to who's playing the guitar. That, and the wood. If the wood is decent then I see no reason NOT to put something really good in it. What sound are you going for?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2554 on: 30 Jan 2011, 09:15 »

Both of the GFS pickups ive had have been totally good. Obviously not the best in the world, but for the price you cant get any better than them. Both guitars i have them in are better now than they were before, and thats exactly what i wanted. I would love to get some better pickups someday, but for an inexpensive option that im not worried about buying without hearing first, GFS is the way to go.

Ive played the cheaper SDs, and say no thank you.
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« Reply #2555 on: 30 Jan 2011, 09:19 »

Well, I am by no means claiming SD's are any good either. I like the JB model a lot, but that's about it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2556 on: 30 Jan 2011, 09:34 »

Here's what I'm starting to think i would like: You know how a tele sounds? A sound that is the opposite of that, more or less. You see, I have a telecaster and love it but sometimes you just need something different to spice up your life, you know?

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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2557 on: 30 Jan 2011, 11:52 »

Check out the Bareknuckle website, and see about their vintage-voiced pickups. It's of course also free to shoot their sales support an e-mail about what would be best for your needs. Customer service with that company really is excellent!
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2558 on: 30 Jan 2011, 13:39 »



 It really really needs new tuners first though


Get a new (graphite) nut. It will do a lot more for your tuning stability as the tuners are seldom if ever the problem. Try running pencil lead through the string-grooves of the nut first to lubricate it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2559 on: 31 Jan 2011, 04:01 »



 It really really needs new tuners first though


Get a new (graphite) nut. It will do a lot more for your tuning stability as the tuners are seldom if ever the problem. Try running pencil lead through the string-grooves of the nut first to lubricate it.
If you do replace the tuners, take a look at Sperzels. I think you would need to widen the holes though, so maybe not.
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« Reply #2560 on: 01 Feb 2011, 19:43 »

If you do replace the tuners, take a look at Sperzels. I think you would need to widen the holes though, so maybe not.

I've got Sperzels on my old Johnson Stratoclone and never had to widen holes at all.

I'd suggest using the stock bridge unless it sucks. Idunno, what's your dad's playing style? If he's not the kind to jack off with a whammy bar all the time, replace it with a hardtail bridge for added stability.
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« Reply #2561 on: 02 Feb 2011, 05:24 »

I've been considering the parts that are really important to do with sound and tuning lately too. I have a strat-copy at home in pieces with plans to just, make it a lot nicer. Pretty much replacing everything hardware wise, but I was wondering, like others, about the nut.

Nuts are made out of:

Bone
Resin
Graphite Compound

I feel like I should get the old one replaced as its just, old and shitty, but is there any clue (apart from price) that any are better than the other?

As far as pickups go, I've heard good things about Wilkinson pickups - a set of "vintage" strat style pickups are half the price of genuine Fender ones. But I kind of feel like they're just there to keep poor tone chasers happy, like they want a Fender sound at half the price. Cue Wilko. But a lot of magazines/critics have good things to say about Vintage guitars.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2562 on: 02 Feb 2011, 06:36 »

Fuck bone, that shit gets sticky. I'd go for a nice new Graphtech nut myself.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2563 on: 02 Feb 2011, 08:43 »

The Teisco (which is apparently branded as "Trump") is on its way! Woohah.
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« Reply #2564 on: 02 Feb 2011, 09:35 »

That's some good pagebreakin' right there...
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« Reply #2565 on: 02 Feb 2011, 11:04 »

I am excite.

Come getting paid on the 15th, I'll be ordering a Brighton Rocks for it (if it is the pickup that's not working). I would rather the more mellow 6.5k one, but apparently they're out of stock, so 7k it is.
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« Reply #2566 on: 04 Feb 2011, 08:35 »

Oh nice, glad to have been of help.

Guys, the original owner was fixing the wiring on my SG and decided he'd made a mistake in selling her.

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fml fml fml fml fml fml I really wanted that and I seriously spent 3 hours sanding her and stripping her BY HAND with my best friend.
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« Reply #2567 on: 04 Feb 2011, 08:40 »

He didn't just take it back, did he? That's super-not-right, if so. At the very least, you should have the right to sell it back to him at a fat profit.

F* that guy.
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« Reply #2568 on: 04 Feb 2011, 08:49 »

No takesies backsies, guy!
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« Reply #2569 on: 04 Feb 2011, 08:57 »

The idea is that I continue with the payments I'm making and he gets me a new one and I get to do whatever I want with it. Which will basically be the same exact thing I was doing with this one; stripping the finish, going natural, and slapping P90s on.

It was his first non-shitty guitar though, apparently. I can sympathize.
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« Reply #2570 on: 04 Feb 2011, 09:13 »

Just make him get you the new Special...comes with P-90s, and I think one's natural finished.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2571 on: 04 Feb 2011, 09:15 »

Will someone explain VOX amps to me? Do they suck? Theres one going real cheap at my local store that i kinda want to look into...should i do it?
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« Reply #2572 on: 04 Feb 2011, 09:16 »

Patrick and I were talking about this the other night.

Voxes are fucking awesome. AC15s are the greatest thing ever, some of those Beatle guys used AC30s, and even the new little AC4 kicks a fair amount of ass.

As far as the cheap, solid state ones go, I've heard a lot of really good things about the Pathfinder 15.
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« Reply #2573 on: 04 Feb 2011, 10:04 »

The Allman Brothers had a Vox in there somewhere too and I have it on good authority that the things are made entirely out of sex
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« Reply #2574 on: 04 Feb 2011, 10:49 »

Other rad dudes that have used Vox amps:

Ever hear of Queen? That Brian May guy, he had one. Actually had a signature AC30 a few years ago. Jeff Tweedy rocks them, as well.

And me, once I get an AC4TV later this year.
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« Reply #2575 on: 05 Feb 2011, 01:28 »

Had my guitar restrung and reintonated today. Using nickel-wound .12-.54 D'addario strings, tuned to D. My teacher did the work, and he said that the advantage there was that I could tune up to E or down to C as long as I tuned it back to D afterwards, and I wouldn't have to worry about any strain on the neck.

It sounds so good with these .12s. I love the tone I'm getting out of them. I need to adjust the action and the truss rod some, though. The truss rod needs to be a bit tighter, and the action is a bit higher than I want it.
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« Reply #2576 on: 05 Feb 2011, 07:23 »

I smell a trap.
(And god I wish I had the money for that red covered AC15 I saw today, but it's 150 euros above my budget so I bought a boss TU-3 and an EHX worm to cheer myself up which thinking about it could've gone into the AC15 fund damn it.)
EDIT: OH GOD MY GUITAR SOUNDS LIKE A HAMMOND ORGAN THIS IS SO AWESOME.

I can assure you that I do not work for Vox. I don't even live in England.

I just think they make really solid, great sounding amps.

edit: I guess this is a better place than the confessions thread...guys, I have Schecter GAS.

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« Reply #2577 on: 05 Feb 2011, 07:34 »

You think you got it bad?


Change the EMG's out for Lundgrens and DANG!
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2578 on: 05 Feb 2011, 07:38 »

Why I don't understand 8 strings: the neck on that thing looks like the trunk of a redwood tree. How do you get your hands around that shit?
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« Reply #2579 on: 05 Feb 2011, 08:38 »

I just do what I do on my seven-string (and the rest of my guitars for that matter): Put my thumb on the centre of the back of the neck, like a classical. It's a lot more comfortable for chording and everything els than the the rather blueswankery "Hendrix-technique". Sure tightens up my playing a lot too.

TL;DR: You don't.
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« Reply #2580 on: 05 Feb 2011, 08:50 »

While waiting for this Teisco to come in (the guy said Friday, but I'm guessing he meant next Friday), I'm debating what to do re: the wiring and pickup. If the pots are good, I'll keep them. The body I have now has a wee scratchy tone pot, but I dunno.

Mostly I'm thinking about pickups, though. I was debating a GFS Brighton Rock for it, but noticed that for about $8 more, I could get a Fender AVRI Jaguar pickup from a different site.

What I want is something that'll get me rad ass clean tones (I've been playing a lot of stuff that sounds Real Estate-y lately), but also will take my distortion pedals like a seasoned porn star. Opinions?
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« Reply #2581 on: 05 Feb 2011, 09:03 »

I just do what I do on my seven-string (and the rest of my guitars for that matter): Put my thumb on the centre of the back of the neck, like a classical. It's a lot more comfortable for chording and everything els than the the rather blueswankery "Hendrix-technique". Sure tightens up my playing a lot too.

TL;DR: You don't.

Tl:dr.pt.II:

If you can't figure out how to play a 7- or 8-string, you should take a good hard look at yourself and consider guitar up altogether. It's just an extra string or two, nothing more.
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« Reply #2582 on: 05 Feb 2011, 09:06 »

I meant more "that neck looks gigantic". I've played 5 string basses before that were REALLY comfortable, but..see first sentence.
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« Reply #2583 on: 05 Feb 2011, 09:09 »

Ah, ok..

I'm a bit slow today. Four hours of rehearsal is pretty dang tough.
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« Reply #2584 on: 05 Feb 2011, 17:50 »

that purple thing is hideous
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« Reply #2585 on: 05 Feb 2011, 21:50 »

Hey, folks. I'm pondering swapping out my telecaster pickups. Any recommendations? I want to stick with single coils and don't want anything fancy or with a stupidly high output, just something traditional or maybe a bit on the hotter side.
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« Reply #2586 on: 06 Feb 2011, 00:32 »

Doesn't Duncan make the Quarter Pound pickup for Teles too? I don't think the output is 22k like Lummer's beastly SG's got, but they're a good wee bit hotter than standard, I do believe.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2587 on: 06 Feb 2011, 04:32 »


Kauer Guitars Daylighter Jr. 4449-52JR
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« Reply #2588 on: 06 Feb 2011, 07:25 »

Huaglphhhhhhhhhhhh...  :psyduck:

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« Reply #2589 on: 06 Feb 2011, 08:53 »

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« Reply #2590 on: 06 Feb 2011, 10:34 »

oh man, i really want that. that tort pickguard is fucking sexy as all hell. maybe replace the pickup with a chromey humbucker and off to the races...
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« Reply #2591 on: 06 Feb 2011, 11:47 »

Woah, quit giving me boners.
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« Reply #2592 on: 06 Feb 2011, 15:25 »

Gold w/ Carbon Fiber pickguard. You know, in case the Hulk is using a diamond as a pick.
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« Reply #2593 on: 06 Feb 2011, 16:00 »

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« Reply #2594 on: 06 Feb 2011, 17:19 »

yeah, i've been very impressed with what I've been watching at Kauer. I'm good for guitars now. But if I was to get another hi-end axe, I'd get a somewhat customized Daylighter express. I love the way these juniors look though. And one pickups, 2 knobs is simple sex. Anyway, they are on facebook (where these pics come from). It's cool to see nice guitars being built in small runs.
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« Reply #2595 on: 06 Feb 2011, 18:43 »

for such simple guitars, they sure ain't cheap, though. 1900 is a lot of clams to shell out for one pickup, two knobs.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2596 on: 06 Feb 2011, 22:35 »

Kauer Guitars Daylighter Jr. 4449-52JR
Does admiring that guitar, while being unable to play the instrument, make me some sort of voyeur?
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« Reply #2597 on: 07 Feb 2011, 06:44 »

No, just human. Those things are hot as fuck.
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« Reply #2598 on: 07 Feb 2011, 07:36 »

for such simple guitars, they sure ain't cheap, though. 1900 is a lot of clams to shell out for one pickup, two knobs.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-Gibson-Les-Paul-Junior-Jr-Cherry-Near-Mint-/170598905561?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b87cb6d9#ht_720wt_1139

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« Reply #2599 on: 07 Feb 2011, 09:23 »

Hey Guys my bassist needs a new amplifier because the bottom speaker in ours is busted. His budget's only 'round $300. Aside from rad shit we might find from eBay or Craigslist, which of these combos would work?


Acoustic B100. 100w 1x15 combo, $249.


Gallien-Krueger MB112. 200w 1x12 combo, $300.

As far as other info goes, we're a typical four-piece rock band with two guitars, bass, and drums. The guitar amps are 50w and 65w solid state amplifiers, and our original bass amp was a 100w 2x10 solid state combo.
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