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Faye is friendly to customers!

Sven is serene and sensible!

Marten is mean business!

Angus is eaten by an allosaur!

Purple Monkey Dishwasher is pink!

Sven is pregnant.

[FunkyTuba]

So if Claireface is: "I just made a pun tell me how funny it is"

Svenface would be: "I just naively asked for something I felt I was entitled to and think I may have gotten it" (?)

[FunkyTuba]

I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Doh.

[Loki]

New comic.








Sven what did you even mean by that comment about honesty aaargh


Also he looks hurt and confused in that last panel. I just want to take him in the arm and hug him (sue me).

[Barmymoo]

Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, albeit a more sophisticated variant. He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do. Sorry, Sven. It doesn't work that way.

[Mr_Rose]

I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Doh.

Evidently I missed this the first time but the question still needs to be asked: what latent desire? She never could really tolerate his personality in large doses and she's mostly over her intimacy issues and Sven's a whole new set of trust issues on a stick, so all that's left from their previous relationship is lust and she isn't driven by that. Certainly not to the point where her boyfriend being away got seventy-two hours or less (has he even gone to this audition yet?) would drive her to reject her principles. What do you think this is, Friends?

[miados]

if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.

[Masterpiece]

... I MEAN WHAT DID YOU EVEN EXPECT, SVEN.

[jwhouk]

We have a full week to think about it - guest strips next week, per Frere Jacques.

[pwhodges]

Oh Sven, so much you have to learn!

[cesariojpn]

Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics

I thought those standalone pics in Sunstone were just fantasy and not realistically possible?

[Mr_Rose]

Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics

VGCats hasn't been updated in how long again?

What does VGCats have to do with those plot lines?
Or great webcomics, for that matter?

[Smallest]

Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, albeit a more sophisticated variant. He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do. Sorry, Sven. It doesn't work that way.

Yeah, ew.

if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.

I'm hoping the last two panels means he won't. Hoping.

[FunkyTuba]

what latent desire? ... What do you think this is, Friends?

No, this is Questionable Content

I'm happy to be wrong about this, but it's what I think is coming.

(BTW, It's hard to show proof that there's latent desire while it's still latent)

[Kugai]

And now Svens journey to the dark side will begin.

[Aziraphale]

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

I think there's something to this. He's used to more of a "hit it and quit it" mentality, and probably wasn't prepared for an expected fling to turn into (for him) something he hadn't bargained for. When you're on unfamiliar ground -- as Sven is -- and you've got a pretty limited toolkit in terms of emotional intelligence and the vocabulary to describe what's going on, as Sven seems to have, then you tend to try to do the best you can with what you've got. Unfortunately, what Sven's got amounts to using a hammer to open a jar of pickles, and I doubt Faye has either the inclination or the patience to steer him on the right path... and that's assuming she's even worked through unpacking enough of her own baggage to be in a position to help Sven with his.

[cesium133]

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

I think there's something to this. He's used to more of a "hit it and quit it" mentality, and probably wasn't prepared for an expected fling to turn into (for him) something he hadn't bargained for. When you're on unfamiliar ground -- as Sven is -- and you've got a pretty limited toolkit in terms of emotional intelligence and the vocabulary to describe what's going on, as Sven seems to have, then you tend to try to do the best you can with what you've got. Unfortunately, what Sven's got amounts to using a hammer to open a jar of pickles, and I doubt Faye has either the inclination or the patience to steer him on the right path... and that's assuming she's even worked through unpacking enough of her own baggage to help Sven with his.

Not going to bother digging through the archives to find it right now (this comic needs a search function or tags like DoA...), but Faye's attitude toward fixing Sven involves a pair of hedge clippers.

[Is it cold in here?]

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1497

Memorable dialog like that often ends up in a character's page on the wiki.

[hedgie]

Not going to bother digging through the archives to find it right now (this comic needs a search function or tags like DoA...), but Faye's attitude toward fixing Sven involves a pair of hedge clippers.

Might be the best way about it.  Then again, "fixing" Sven isn't her problem unless she wants it to be (and even then, it'd only be to a limited extent), and she has made it patently clear that she *doesn't*.    Ultimately he needs to grab those hedge clippers himself.

[Neko_Ali]

Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics

I thought those standalone pics in Sunstone were just fantasy and not realistically possible?

Sunstone is a comic, just not a web comic. He posts the pages to his deviantart site, and eventually they will get gathered into a book. But that's not the characters I was talking about. These are the comics I was referring to (addition of the comic's name by me)

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend. - Dumbing of Age

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian. - Menage a 3

Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub. - Sandra on the Rocks

[Arancaytar]

Faye: I have a boyfriend

*borthrelm?

[Somnus Eternus]

You know, though...that really did go much better than expected. No blood, no police, no apparent tears, no projectiles...I'd call that a successful adult conversation.

[Jazzmaster]

Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

Also, in regards to Jeph's caption for today's comic

My annual guest week starts Monday! WOO

This was my reaction:

[cesariojpn]

Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics

VGCats hasn't been updated in how long again?

What does VGCats have to do with those plot lines?
Or great webcomics, for that matter?

*looks at my post*
*looks at yours*
Huh? I wrote that at first, but deleted it, added what I have now and pressed Save. The fuck...?

Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.   

[Carl-E]

Oh, Sven. 

I think the posters who mentioned country's influence on Sven's emotional development had it pinned. 

And my daughter played this for me today - it seemed oddly appropriate.  Sometimes, formulaic works.  But dependence oon a formula never turns out well!   

[themacnut]

Somehow I don't think Sven's done with Faye. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. Plus he may not be able to just stay away from Faye, not being able to deal with his "feelings" for her, whatever they may be. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...

[cesariojpn]

Somehow I don't think Sven's done with Faye. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...

......on the arms of past QC character we've forgotten for a time now as a wham moment.

[Jazzmaster]

I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.

Yeah, that's pretty likely.  I really am anxious to see what happens with "Fangus" going forward, in any event.

Somehow I don't think Sven's done with this. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...

I don't think so either.  I don't think Sven knows how to handle rejection because he's never really dealt with it before.  When you're so used to getting what you want, it can be hard to accept not having what you want.

[Carl-E]

Which excellently explains those last two panels! 

[Aziraphale]

Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.

Maybe I'm not reading enough into this, but I'm not sure where the impression's coming from that Faye's unhappy with Angus. With him leaving? Yes, definitely; she's said as much. But she seems to be happy with him and with the relationship, as opposed to CoD, where she's simply treading water.

If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) that he bails.

[Carl-E]

I don't see him bailing.  He's too stubborn, and she was too hard-won for him to bail without a total fuckup on someone's part. 


Like Faye cheating on him with Sven, for instance. 

[Jazzmaster]

If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) that he bails.

When you say "pulling a Marten", I'm assuming you're talking about Marten getting tired of Dora's issues, right?

[Method of Madness]

Marten was sick of her issues, but she's still the one who ended things.

[cesariojpn]

If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) that he bails.

With the sex he......nevermind, bad point.

[Aziraphale]

If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) that he bails.

When you say "pulling a Marten", I'm assuming you're talking about Marten getting tired of Dora's issues, right?

That was the strip I was thinking of. But as Method of Madness pointed out, I'd forgotten Dora ended it.

[de_la_Nae]

Okay.

So first off, the title of the comic is right, especially panel two.

So Sven's gonna sing his hurt out.

Because Jephzibah enjoys kicking around his characters, though Sven will feel these are some of his most heartfelt, true songs, they will utterly fail to chart.

[Blackjoker]

I feel a certain degree of sympathy for Sven, but yeah, just 'being honest' and expecting to get what you want is very much the whole dudebro niceguy thing that bugs the CRAP out of me. On a related note, to the earlier comment about how Faye put it, she is focused on shutting Sven down quickly, and for good reason. If there is any lingering attraction for him, that is not a good thing to allow him to possibly utilize when she is frustrated/worried about things with Angus. Sven might not even do it consciously, (see earlier stuff about him not wanting to break up a relationship) but Faye is also showing some self knowledge to not try to let any trust issues she has get any external validation. I hope that this ends better than I fear it will.

[NilsO]

I was longing for you
around the clock
I'm in love with you
and I wanted to talk

But she said:

Yeah, and that's great,
but it ain't gonna get you the girl
I gotta get back to work
I suggest you fuck off.

I was longing for you
tried a smarm attack
I'm in love with you
but I won't get you back

[jwhouk]

I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.

[gopher]

Is there a song called "entitled douche"?

[NilsO]

I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.

On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Faye has progressed. No hitting Sven, and otherwise handling the situation quite well. Finally, she is also able to say the word "boyfriend". She had some problems with this earlier.

[Detachable Felix]

Is there a song called "entitled douche"?

Basically anything by this douche:

[snubnose]

Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, [...]

What the ... what ?!?

He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do.

Well OK "nice guy" isnt exactly a clearly defined term in the first place, but still I dont see how "being honest about your feelings" fits into any definitions I'm aware of.

Nice guys are typically thought of as people of low self esteem, overly sensitive/feminine, they end up too easily in the friend zone of girls they fancy, they are respectful towards women (at least they think so) while the girls they fancy end up with douchebags, etc.

If theres anything Sven doesnt lack is confidence. And he isnt very sensitive at all, either.

if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him.

I would bet Faye would get really angry at that point. I think Sven knows that too.

And now Svens journey to the dark side will begin.

OMG he actually joins a side now ? I dont think so.

Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Why, yes !

I think you indeed definitely do read too much into it.

Faye's version got to the point much quicker then your unnecessarily much more longwinded one.

[dilbert719]

if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.

There is one reasonable justification for him to follow her inside, and that is to ask Dora to step outside with him for a second, and say something to the effect of "I clearly just put my foot in something, and I don't know what. I'm not really in my element here. What did I just do?"

I don't expect him to pull that off, but that would be a reasonable option for him to go into CoD at this time. Otherwise, Sven, go away and get your head right before you do something further down the slope into utter idiocy.

[NilsO]

I think the Sven thread is finished - for now. Today's strip was a natural ending. It might be years before we see him again, which is probably a Good Thing.

Next week will be guest strips, which are not canon. I hope there will be some talented contributions.

Main threads that need to be resolved when Jeph is back:

• Will Angus get the job?
• What about Emily and Marten?
• Will May get a job? Will she behave?

[Akima]

Is there a song called "entitled douche"?

A great many that should be sub-titled that, certainly.

"I clearly just put my foot in something, and I don't know what. I'm not really in my element here. What did I just do?"

Seriously? Could even Sven be so far lost in clueless self-absorption?

[bhtooefr]

Well OK "nice guy" isnt exactly a clearly defined term in the first place, but still I dont see how "being honest about your feelings" fits into any definitions I'm aware of.

Nice guys are typically thought of as people of low self esteem, overly sensitive/feminine, they end up too easily in the friend zone of girls they fancy, they are respectful towards women (at least they think so) while the girls they fancy end up with douchebags, etc.

If theres anything Sven doesnt lack is confidence. And he isnt very sensitive at all, either.

However, the core of Nice Guyism is that doing nice actions entitles them to a relationship or sex. And, he's stressing that he's being honest with Faye, as if that's supposed to mean something to her.

[pwhodges]

I wouldn't call his present state "Nice Guy", though; he simply doesn't get it.  He's in danger of falling that way, though, if he tries using his declaration of love as a cynical ploy - but for now I see him as genuine but lacking understanding.

[Tova]

I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.

On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Yes, precisely the point. I don't think she will be buying it for her next album.

[Jazzmaster]

Why, yes !

I think you indeed definitely do read too much into it.

Faye's version got to the point much quicker then your unnecessarily much more longwinded one.

She doesn't have to use "my" long winded response ad-verbatim.  Hell, even a simple "I'm with Angus you dumbass!" sounds 'stronger' because it reminds Sven that "hey, I'm with somebody, you already know who he is and you should know how much I care about him".

I know that I'm just being picky, though.  I know that Faye is very stressed with Angus' possible move and can't be assed to tread on words right now, when the objective is "make Sven go away".

And...even if she had worded it differently, I'm not sure it would have made a difference with Sven anyhow.  Because truthfully, I'm not sure how convinced he is, and if he isn't convinced, he needs to come to the realization that him and Faye aren't happening on his own.

[NilsO]

I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.

On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Yes, precisely the point. I don't think she will be buying it for her next album.

Damn. I was looking forward to royalties from her next megahit.