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Gloomy Tai at the library

33 (43.4%)

Dora trying to make up with her GF

14 (18.4%)

Hannelore seeking vengeance on Juicy

8 (10.5%)

Marigold seeking medical aid

2 (2.6%)

Pintsize having an existential crisis

11 (14.5%)

Faye learning that 'creepy' is a state of mind

8 (10.5%)

Total Members Voted: 71

Voting closed: 10 Mar 2015, 08:40

[bhtooefr]

Oh, it's jewelry wire, not electrical you're dealing with. There may be different techniques to use there.

It's worth noting, though, that even if your solder has a flux core, more flux can help.

[Omega Entity]

I'll definitely try more flux the next time I have my gear out 

[pwhodges]

Soldering isn't welding - soldering is melting a low-temperature melt alloy to stick two pieces of metal together. Welding is melting two similar metals (and sometimes a rod of the same type of metal) together.

So what would you call it when making the joins in organ pipes?  (For those who don't know, organ pipes are made of an alloy of tin and lead - sound familiar?)

(It's called soldering, in practice.)

[bhtooefr]

I'd be the pedantic asshole to call it welding, but given that it's welding pieces of solder together...

[Schwungrad]

That's like asking whether mixing two types of glue together is called mixing or glueing.

[MooskiNet]

That's like asking whether mixing two types of glue together is called mixing or glueing.

I love either/or questions for which the answer is 'yes.'  They make me unaccountably happy.

[Perfectly Reasonable]

So, micro-poll for tomorrow.

• Other - Specify in comment

4. -- I want to see Clinton's date with Emily. (Also I think online polls are dumb.)

[ReindeerFlotilla]

That's like asking whether mixing two types of glue together is called mixing or glueing.

I love either/or questions for which the answer is 'yes.'  They make me unaccountably happy.

Is that happiness that cannot be accounted for or happiness whose account cannot be determined?

[DSL]

That's like asking whether mixing two types of glue together is called mixing or glueing.

I love either/or questions for which the answer is 'yes.'  They make me unaccountably happy.

Is that happiness that cannot be accounted for or happiness whose account cannot be determined?

yes.

[wlewisiii]

Maybe tywren is a multiverse traveler. tywren did you bring any new Nirvana albums across the gap?

Screw that. Can you get a boxed Blu-ray set of The Complete Firefly, seasons 1-8? I've only seen through the end of season 5, and that was a shitty bootleg.

Along with the 6 seasons of Dark Angel?

[valkygrrl]

Maybe tywren is a multiverse traveler. tywren did you bring any new Nirvana albums across the gap?

Screw that. Can you get a boxed Blu-ray set of The Complete Firefly, seasons 1-8? I've only seen through the end of season 5, and that was a shitty bootleg.

Along with the 6 seasons of Dark Angel?

And seasons 2-5 of My So-Called Life.

Is my age showing again? Oh well either way. This universe has some matrix sequels, star wars prequels and seasons 6 and 7 of Buffy the Vampire slayer to trade.

[wlewisiii]

Comic up.

Yeah.

Sigh.

[Omega Entity]

And there we have it. I hate to say it, but there's really an air of finality there. Not necessarily regarding any of us seeing the shop again, but at least where Faye coming back into the shop is concerned.

[Gladstone]

[Schwungrad]

The shrubbery is inside the window. I somehow always imagined it outside.

[SomeCanadianWeirdo]

That opening panel is cool.  It's a perspective we've never seen before.  But on seeing it I expected the focus of the strip being Dora, contemplating how lonely she feels at the moment being the boss.

[jwhouk]

I just want a copy of Purple Submarine, and I'll be just fine.

[Boxilar]

Delurking to say that definitely felt like the end of an era. More than the Dora/Marten break up, or even The Talk, this feels like a seismic shift in where the comic is going. I don't think Faye has any intention of setting foot in CoD again, and if the story follows her and Marten as they move on, we'll probably see less and less of the coffee shop.

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Been awhile.

[valkygrrl]

Sigh indeed. One word, all emotion, a sad goodbye and on the night that GWS is slated to end as well.

This is going to be a feels filled night.

Edit: song

[Gladstone]

Delurking to say that definitely felt like the end of an era. More than the Dora/Marten break up, or even The Talk, this feels like a seismic shift in where the comic is going. I don't think Faye has any intention of setting foot in CoD again, and if the story follows her and Marten as they move on, we'll probably see less and less of the coffee shop.

Good thing The Man Himself said that QC wasn't going to end "anytime soon," or I'd be worried that this was the end, or the first of several endings, Peter Jackson/LOTR-style.  Of course, that was almost two months ago, and Jeph's definition of "anytime soon" might be different than ours, so prepare your pitchforks and get ready to march, just in case.

[explicit]

*Plays the sad song at the ending to the Hulk*

[TheEvilDog]

*Plays the sad song at the ending to the Hulk*

Methinks Gladstone got there before you.

Anyway, what a happy and upbeat end to the week(!)

[jwhouk]

...Welp.

No more COD.

[ReindeerFlotilla]

CoD will return...

In

The Secret of the Shrubbery

_{Coming Soon}

[plusorminus]

I'm thrilled that Dora showed once again that she is capable of tact and intelligence and is not the "irrational bitch" that so many people seem to feel she is by respecting Faye's wishes and letting her do her thing. I do think that this will be the last we see of CoD for quite some time and likely Dora's appearances will be more sporadic in favor of the cast of zany characters Faye will inevitably meet at therapy, including her probable new love interest. Ah well. Tropes are tropes for a reason.

I was more relieved than sad at the strip. I wish Faye well in whatever she wishes to do, but now that she is detached from CoD and any Dora line for the forseeable future, I'll be able to skip her storylines in favor of others. I also hope Sven stays gone as well.

[explicit]

Ya, I don't read well apparently.

[DrBear]

I'm going to hold on to the theory that this week's strips were guest strips done by the guy who does "Funky Winkerbean."

[Tova]

If everyone's wishes for the removal of their most hated character are granted, the entire strip will look like panel one.

[LilShortstuf]

Sigh indeed. One word, all emotion, a sad goodbye and on the night that GWS is slated to end as well.

This is going to be a feels filled night.

Edit: song

I've fallen behind on GWS for many months and just now read this. I am saddened The comics I follow need to stop ending. (I realize the selfishness in that sentence and completely believe artists should end comics when they feel the story is over. I'm just being a pouty person)

[tywren]

I'm thrilled that Dora showed once again that she is capable of tact and intelligence and is not the "irrational bitch" that so many people seem to feel she is

Dora's a bitch, but not an irrational one. In fact i'd swear she has a master in rationalizing her bitchiness which is one of the things that annoy me about the character; rational bitches tend to hold on to their "I was right to be a bitch" mindset far tighter than irrational ones.

[Boxilar]

Delurking to say that definitely felt like the end of an era. More than the Dora/Marten break up, or even The Talk, this feels like a seismic shift in where the comic is going. I don't think Faye has any intention of setting foot in CoD again, and if the story follows her and Marten as they move on, we'll probably see less and less of the coffee shop.

Good thing The Man Himself said that QC wasn't going to end "anytime soon," or I'd be worried that this was the end, or the first of several endings, Peter Jackson/LOTR-style.  Of course, that was almost two months ago, and Jeph's definition of "anytime soon" might be different than ours, so prepare your pitchforks and get ready to march, just in case.

I don't think the pitchforks will be necessary. While Jeph seems to like giving all his characters screen time, the comic has always been about Marten and Faye. Marten's ties to Coffee of Doom have been pretty tenuous since he and Dora split. And Faye just cut all ties.

*deep breath before plunging in*

It's been noted that Marten is a pretty chill dude, and since he and Dora separated and he came to terms with it his chill has reached a Zen level. He and Dora are still friends, and will probably still have contact through Tai, but his main reason for dropping by CoD, before and after his relationship with Dora was that his best friend worked there.

Which brings up Faye. The Pugnacious Peach is about as far from a Zen state as you can get right now. I think she's honest when she tells Dora there's no hard feelings. But Coffee of Doom and Dora are part and parcel of a chain of events where she almost killed herself. Like the car wreck after her dad died, she probably isn't sure herself whether it was intentional or not. Mainly because she simply can't remember. So she has to distance herself and concentrate on getting better, and that means leaving Dora and CoD behind her. It isn't really fair to Dora because she's losing a close friend out of the deal, but then life just sucks sometimes. And while Dora and faye may reconnect down the road at some point, it'll never be the same as it was.

And on that cherry note, I hope we get to see Marten and Faye break out of the holding patterns their lives have been locked in. Marten has a relationship that looks like it has legs, and even if it doesn't, at least he's broken out of orbit and powered up the warp drive. And Faye has been kicked into motion by circumstances that have forced her to change everything about her life. On the up side, she still has Marten, who is pretty damned good at taking care of people he cares about.

I think its going to be interesting.
 

[Aziraphale]

CoD will return...

In

The Secret of the Shrubbery

_{Coming Soon}

Having failed to obtain said shrubbery or cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring, she's been forced to weld new armor for the Knights Who Say "Ni" before she can continue on her quest.

One of whom will be in her support group.

It will not end well for him (I've said it! Oh, I've said it again!).

[Gladstone]

I don't think the pitchforks will be necessary. While Jeph seems to like giving all his characters screen time, the comic has always been about Marten and Faye. Marten's ties to Coffee of Doom have been pretty tenuous since he and Dora split. And Faye just cut all ties.

[...]

And Faye has been kicked into motion by circumstances that have forced her to change everything about her life. On the up side, she still has Marten, who is pretty damned good at taking care of people he cares about.

I think its going to be interesting.

It's just a weird feeling, is all.  Faye has been working at COD since before the comic started (although she probably hadn't been there long at that point), and having her first get fired and then cut all ties to the place is a major change in the strip, more than anything Marten's been through, I think.  Even if Jeph has plans to continue QC for another 5-10 years (fingers crossed!), the thought that COD won't be the major setting it once was, after nearly 3000 strips, is quite a big deal.  End of an era indeed. 

[mazzlebeast]

This has been brewing for a while now. Honestly I think Faye has every right to feel hurt. When Faye told Marten why she couldn't date him, Dora swooped in and stole him after two days. Faye let it slide , and when she began drinking heavily Dora wasn't  her shoulder, Marten was. BUT when Marten and Dora split, Faye told Dora she needed help, like a true friend. And she made sure Dora did get help.                                                                              Dora on the other hand has been pulling away from Faye since the split. They hung out together less and less..and when she could have told Faye to get help or else she couldn't  come back, or write her up and give her an ultimatum. .she fired her. Now she feels hurt that Faye doesn't apologize or confide in her or..whatever. Maybe she blames Faye for her breakup with Marten still, even if she knows it is crazy . I don't think Faye is a easy person to get along with, and I don't think drinking on the job is alright.. but it just didn't seem like the right thing to do unless there was some underlying reason.                                  Faye had just broken off things with Angus, her first real boyfriend (Sven was more of a sex buddy) and everyone else around her is in a great relationship.  She was visibly drowning and her best female friend wrote her off.

[Is it cold in here?]

>"bitch"

(quiet mod)
We like to discourage gender-based insults. They're counter to the goal of being inclusive and risk starting fires that are hard to extinguish.
(/)

[Aziraphale]

{snippage} They hung out together less and less..and when she could have told Faye to get help or else she couldn't  come back, or write her up and give her an ultimatum. .she fired her. Now she feels hurt that Faye doesn't apologize or confide in her or..whatever. Maybe she blames Faye for her breakup with Marten still, even if she knows it is crazy . I don't think Faye is a easy person to get along with, and I don't think drinking on the job is alright.. but it just didn't seem like the right thing to do unless there was some underlying reason.    {further snippage}  She was visibly drowning and her best female friend wrote her off.

Nope, nope, nope.

Look, I've taken issue with some of the things that Dora's said or done, but what you've written here makes me wonder if you've forgotten huge swathes of this comic. Did she write Faye up? No, because it's not that kind of business (Dora runs a pretty loose ship). But she did warn Faye not to drink on the job (there's your ultimatum), and Faye drank on the job anyway (there's your underlying reason). Dora didn't write Faye off. She drew a bright red line, and Faye waltzed right across that fucker.

Oh, and by the way: the first thing they tell you when you're trying to save a drowning person is not to let them drown you. What Dora did was painful for both of them, but it was the right thing in the end.

[plusorminus]

It's just a weird feeling, is all.  Faye has been working at COD since before the comic started (although she probably hadn't been there long at that point), and having her first get fired and then cut all ties to the place is a major change in the strip, more than anything Marten's been through, I think.  Even if Jeph has plans to continue QC for another 5-10 years (fingers crossed!), the thought that COD won't be the major setting it once was, after nearly 3000 strips, is quite a big deal.  End of an era indeed.

In a lot of ways, I think this is the end of a particularly long digression. At the start of the strip, Marten and Faye's interactions were drawn out a bit until the intro of CoD. I think I would feel differently about it if we were introduced to Faye in a similar way that we were introduced to Angus, that is, taking place within CoD. If Marten and Steve had walked into CoD in strip one instead of being at the bar, and Marten saw the cute brunette in glasses, then I'd feel more like this was the end of an era. As it was, we jumped in, in media res as far as CoD was concerned.

It reminds me of some ways of the start and end of The Sopranos (with notable exceptions, of course). We don't get Tony Soprano backstory going from his childhood on in episode one. We start at what is going to be the most profound plot point of the series, and that is a mob boss seeking therapy. We start QC with what will prove to be the most profound plot point of the series, and that is Marten and Faye meeting. Everything else is situational. The situation with Faye and CoD is at an end. I figured that once that happened, it would signal a shift in the comic to other pastures that the two main characters are exploring. For Marten that is Claire and for Faye it will be sobriety. I would not be surprised if a new "gang" springs up as they've shed the old one at CoD (with Hanners excepted because ... Hanners, and probably Cosette excepted as long as Marten is nominally friends with Steve.)

[Gladstone]

As long as QC doesn't end like The Sopranos, too.

Just as Claire is setting up her greatest pun yet.

Or just a butt joke.

[Mr. Skawronska]

I was having a kind of blah day until I saw Faye's heavy sigh.

I think I'll go pop some popcorn.

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Hmmm...nah.  Nothing else productive to do.  Proceeding.

[Tova]

This is the best thing that could possibly have happened to Faye.

Fear of change has limited and damaged Faye's life. Now, change has been involuntarily been visited upon her.

Maybe now her life can move forward.

And maybe one day in the future, Faye will recognise the enormous favour Dora has done her.

[Is it cold in here?]

As Dora herself hinted, when she asked Faye something to the effect "Do you want to work retail forever?".

[SJCrew]

Huggin' It Out

I SMELL A T-SHIRT

...a really good-smelling t-shirt that I would buy!

[valkygrrl]

As Dora herself hinted, when she asked Faye something to the effect "Do you want to work retail forever?".

Some people have no choice. Monarchy is a really hard gig to break into.

[jmucchiello]

That feels like a goodbye to the place for the readers as much as for Faye.

[BenRG]

Yeah, I get the feeling that Faye won't be coming this way again for a very long time, if ever. I also don't think that her friendship with Dora will recover unless Dora is strongly proactive and soon. Faye has clearly decided that she needs to make something of a complete new start and the places (and many of the people) of the past won't be part of this. No matter how painful, she's decided to move on.

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that Jeph is saying farewell to the place too.

Sometimes change comes, although it is bitter.

[Reaver]

Did someone just say "The only way they'd be friends is if Dora broke into tears sobbing begging/FAYE/ for forgiveness"

What? 

"Oh Oh great and PURE Faye! I am so sorry I fired you for coming to work where you are an assistant manager, and in charge of dealing with customers  DRUNK After you both lied to me about being drunk then snuck in the back to avoid working to drink more! PLEASE forgive me for my crimes!  "


I have only one thing to say to that...



 

[Tova]

Did someone just say "The only way they'd be friends is if Dora broke into tears sobbing begging/FAYE/ for forgiveness"

Um, no, I don't think so...?

[Reaver]

Faye's statement, "take one last look at the place", indicates she has no intentions of coming back as a customer. It would hurt too much. Unless Dora breaks down tomorrow, sobbing and begging forgiveness from Faye, I guess this is the last time we see them together.

They did, I went back and double checked

[Wagimawr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d4C1ZQKmw4

Love it but the mood was ruined when I saw the most recent comment on the video:
"This is the song you play when your taking a shower and find out there is no towel in the bathroom"

 


(well uh I tried to not repeat the embed buuuuut.)

[Mordhaus]