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Title: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 06 Jul 2014, 13:37
Yay, my first WCDT!

Couldn't think of a poll option for Dora.

Quote from: Jeph
Also you can probably look forward to comics posting around 4pm EST for the next couple weeks
https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/485849275394711552
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 06 Jul 2014, 13:41
Will may antics return this week?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 Jul 2014, 13:48
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 06 Jul 2014, 14:00
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 06 Jul 2014, 14:05
VIDYA

A twist of Lemon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Jul 2014, 14:18
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

Yeah, he's pregnant with Faye's child….
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jul 2014, 14:33
Fayes week just gets better and better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mmeaninglessnamee on 06 Jul 2014, 14:43
Glad as I am to see the return of Sven for apparently an actual storyline, this doesn't sound good for anyone involved.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 06 Jul 2014, 14:48
Let me guess, Sven got some test results.
Uh, I wouldn't have gotten the idea myself, but now that you say it... It sounds kind of plausible.

I have to say that I have a bad feeling for Faye and Angus. (Has this been discussed much in last week's thread? I didn't read it as thoroughly as most other weeks.)
What do you think Faye means by "What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"? If it's not the long-distance thing, I really can't see what exactly she's talking about. Just that Angus wants to get a different job? Or something that happened "off-screen"? And what does Faye want long-term? Apart from just continuing with everything as it is, she's never said anything. Why would it be incompatible with what Angus wants? To me, this sounds like giving up too easily (if giving up is indeed what she's doing).
Anyway, I think it's a really bad sign that in front of Angus Faye puts on a happy face - and does this quite well; at first I thought she was being sincere - while inside, she feels precisely the opposite. Concealing your true feelings from your partner in this way is not good for either her or Angus. Instead of telling Dora what problems she has with Angus' plans for the future, she should be talking to Angus about them - or rather; it's good to talk it over with a friend, too, but she definitely should let Angus know something's up. I mean, there he goes thinking all is great while Faye is questioning the long-term viability of their relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 06 Jul 2014, 14:50
I've missed Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jul 2014, 14:57
Prediction.


Angus gets the job and moves
Things go downhill from there
Sven has come to tell them he's joining a Monestary
Faye snaps and swears off men
Tai sets her up with Swing Girl

Epiphany for Faye and she and Swing Girl move in with Tai and Dora.





Well, it's no stranger than anything else that happens in QCland.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Jul 2014, 15:26
What scares me is Jeph's comment on twitter: "I've had plans for Sven for literally years."

 :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 06 Jul 2014, 17:17
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

Exactly my thought.

SVEN:  I'm pregnant, and I think it's yours.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 06 Jul 2014, 17:26
1)  I am dying from ____
2)  I just won the ____
3)  Apparently I've given everyone a horrid case of ___
4)  FEELINGS
5)  I married Raven.

Ok that should do it,  I've ruined most of the potential plot-lines,  forcing Jeph to do a massive rewrite.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 Jul 2014, 17:34
I was going with a) STD, b) FEELINGS, c) actually talking to Dora
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Jul 2014, 17:39
How long has in been in-universe since they were together? I'd think if he gave her an STD, she'd have noticed by now.  :psyduck:

My guess is he's going to confess his wuv for her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 Jul 2014, 17:48
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

Exactly my thought.

SVEN:  I'm pregnant, and I think it's yours.

Damn it, I was going to make that joke, so well done on getting there before me.
Also, I was just thinking to myself last week that we hadn't seen Sven in quite some time.
Now to mentally project a million euro coming towards me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Jul 2014, 17:53
1)  I am dying from ____
2)  I just won the ____
3)  Apparently I've given everyone a horrid case of ___
4)  FEELINGS
5)  I married Raven.

Ok that should do it,  I've ruined most of the potential plot-lines,  forcing Jeph to do a massive rewrite.

For a second there, I thought we were doing forum-based Cards Against Humanity.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kagenoyuushi on 06 Jul 2014, 17:55
How long has in been in-universe since they were together? I'd think if he gave her an STD, she'd have noticed by now.  :psyduck:

My guess is he's going to confess his wuv for her.

Some STDs don't show any symptoms in women, like gonorrhea is asymptomatic for most women.  (I registered just the post that)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 06 Jul 2014, 18:06
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.

Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

He definitely has breast cancer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kagenoyuushi on 06 Jul 2014, 18:24
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.

Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

He definitely has breast cancer.

See, that really depresses me, my mom has breast cancer  :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Jul 2014, 18:30
Ouch.

It does happen to guys, too.

Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Jul 2014, 19:25
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

Yeah, he's pregnant with Faye's child….

Crap!  Preempted from making a "Sven is pregnant!" post by hours.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Jul 2014, 19:35
Perhaps it's something different from what we think.  Maybe Sven is up for musical director on the same show Angus auditioned for, and he's going to tell her that Angus is just about a given to be hired.

It's surprising we've never seen Sven in a recording studio.  He has to do his demos someplace, and it would interesting to see what a studio in the world of AIs looks like.  Just imagine, a scene where Sven is arguing with Producertron 9000 over lyrics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Jul 2014, 19:43
A poll suggestion: What is Sven going to tell Faye?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jul 2014, 19:46
Wait, "we need to talk"?

Let me guess, Sven got some test results.

Yeah, he's pregnant with Faye's child….

Crap!  Preempted from making a "Sven is pregnant!" post by hours.
Just saw the comic, thought of that, and like I expected, everyone beat me to it. But I added it to the poll anyway :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 06 Jul 2014, 20:52
Faye's response is so exactly what my response has been inside my head in so many such situations, it was really satisfying to see her say it out loud.  And that combined with being totally blindsided by this plot twist made me laugh my butt off.  (Oh no, somebody get me a butt-tourniquet.)

How long has in been in-universe since they were together? I'd think if he gave her an STD, she'd have noticed by now.  :psyduck:

My guess is he's going to confess his wuv for her.

Some STDs don't show any symptoms in women, like gonorrhea is asymptomatic for most women.  (I registered just the post that)

And HIV often has no symptoms for years, in both men and women.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 06 Jul 2014, 20:56
I don't know if we are going that route... it's more than likely butt-related knowing Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: D-alx on 06 Jul 2014, 20:58
Is it me or does Faye's facial expression not really match up to what she's saying?

Usually she has a really angry face when she says that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 06 Jul 2014, 21:06
I think she's too overwhelmed to go into rage mode.

And no, I don't think we're likely headed for hearing that Sven has HIV...  My money's on his coming to confess that Faye (and her butt) is still haunting his dreams.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 06 Jul 2014, 21:24
"Once you hit that... (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764)"


Edit: added link to pertinent content
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 06 Jul 2014, 21:47

I have to say that I have a bad feeling for Faye and Angus. (Has this been discussed much in last week's thread? I didn't read it as thoroughly as most other weeks.)
What do you think Faye means by "What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"? If it's not the long-distance thing, I really can't see what exactly she's talking about. Just that Angus wants to get a different job?

Faye wants thing to stay the same.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jul 2014, 22:04
Winter is coming
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Jul 2014, 22:15
He definitely has breast cancer.

You're my favourite customer.


QC as written by Tommy Wiseau?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 06 Jul 2014, 23:14
How long has in been in-universe since they were together?

Six months at least. It was winter when they broke up (shortly before  the drunken sledding party (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1390)) and it's now summer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 06 Jul 2014, 23:36
Winter is coming

Dark demons cry Gaia?

In any case, dark days are coming (for Faye).

So, who's next? Faye's sister?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 06 Jul 2014, 23:57
I would like to point out that men can have breast cancer too. And when they do it usually is aggressive.

Men have functional mammaries, just in smaller amounts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 07 Jul 2014, 00:07
Yay! I've missed Sven a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 07 Jul 2014, 00:11
He definitely has breast cancer.
I would like to point out that men can have breast cancer too. And when they do it usually is aggressive.

Men have functional mammaries, just in smaller amounts.
Easy there guys, it was just a reference to The Room.

Prediction: Denny Cosette is accosted by an angry man about drugs, but the man is stopped when Johnny Dora and Mark Faye appear and tackle him. The next five strips after that will be a panning shot of the golden gate bridge.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 07 Jul 2014, 00:14
See, that really depresses me, my mom has breast cancer  :oops:

If it's any consolation, my mum had it about 30 years ago, and she's still alive now aged 92. I can think of two friends who have also had it and are fine now. No, three...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 07 Jul 2014, 00:45
Sven ? Wasnt missing that dude.

What about Raven ? I'm missing Raven !

And about what this is about: I think Sven wants to have some final chat about their failed relationship. Though technically they already had that, did they not ?



5)  I married Raven.
I kind of can see that relationship work, though I doubt either of them would marry ANYONE.



Some STDs don't show any symptoms in women, like gonorrhea is asymptomatic for most women.  (I registered just the post that)
Okay ... actually nifty strategy of the disease, to hide and wait ... but does any other STD have this as well ? AIDS obviously doesnt do it, neither does syphillis, at least not according to Wikipedia.



He definitely has breast cancer.
Since we are in medical truths revealed mode: men CAN get breast cancer, even if what men have in respect to breast tissue is most of the time very little, thus this cancer is pretty rare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_breast_cancer
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 07 Jul 2014, 00:58
Based on the fact that he actually admitted to Hanners that he hadn't been dating because he missed Faye so much (thanks for that link!), I suspect it's going to be about him wanting to get back together rather than any of the nastier stuff. That would make for comic drama, which is QC's strength. Finding out that he's given Faye (and therefore Angus) an STD/STI would be way too mean.

I hope.

Also, I was just thinking to myself last week that we hadn't seen Sven in quite some time.
Now to mentally project a million euro coming towards me.

Immediately followed by you being crushed underneath them all. Be careful what you wish for...  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 07 Jul 2014, 01:37
Yeah, let's not forget about this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1783) strip, which shows even more from what I can see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 07 Jul 2014, 02:20
Has anyone actually had the experience of walking into a room and being greeted with "Oh for fucks sake" (or similar) for no apparent reason? I'm curious how you would react IRL.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 02:26

I have to say that I have a bad feeling for Faye and Angus. (Has this been discussed much in last week's thread? I didn't read it as thoroughly as most other weeks.)
What do you think Faye means by "What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"? If it's not the long-distance thing, I really can't see what exactly she's talking about. Just that Angus wants to get a different job?

Faye wants thing to stay the same.
Yeah sure, but with her reaction, I was thinking that there must be something else. I wouldn't question a well-working relationship that way (and withhold my fears from my partner) because of such a change - but then, I am of course not Faye and maybe the Angus-Faye relationship is not as well-working anyways? Maybe Faye and Angus aren't that close after all? We don't see that much of any close, emotional interaction between them in-comic.
Or maybe I am reading way more into Faye's reaction than there is. I just hope that she gets through this episode in the way that will ultimately make her the happiest (be it by sticking with Angus and learning to cope with the change in their relationship or by deciding that she does not want to stay in that relationship any longer - right now, I am really not sure which one it will be).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 07 Jul 2014, 02:33
Yeah, let's not forget about this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1783) strip, which shows even more from what I can see.
Yeah. Faye looks really sorry in that strip. She still has feelings for Sven, but cannot tolerate his infidelity.

Also, check my sig below. Basically, Faye  broke (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1784) Sven. After Sven's fling with Gina Riversmith (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1334), resulting in Faye leaving him, Sven has not been interested in other girls than Faye. It has not been any lack of opportunities (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1650), but he is just not interested, preferring instead to read the history of the Crusades.

So, why do Sven need to talk to Faye? Except for some gag theories in this forum, I believe the real reason must be his feelings for her. With Dora lurking around at CoD, it certainly is not the best setting for him to confess his love to Faye. Still, I guess he wants to tell her he has changed, and ask for another chance if/when Faye breaks up with Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 Jul 2014, 02:40
I don't quite understand Faye right now. I mean, if Angus gets the gig, it makes things uncomfortable, but love isn't a matter of comfort.

As for Sven, I do hope he's about to manifest his good side.

I kinda missed him. Not enough to be aware of it before he appeared again, mind you.

The character I'm actually really missing is Lydia.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Jul 2014, 04:04
I don't quite understand Faye right now. I mean, if Angus gets the gig, it makes things uncomfortable, but love isn't a matter of comfort.

Is it not, now? Isn't (romantic) love about feeling good around your subject  of desire and having that feeling returned? There is only so much selflessness love can endure without it becoming painful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Srxjo on 07 Jul 2014, 04:30
Has anyone actually had the experience of walking into a room and being greeted with "Oh for fucks sake" (or similar) for no apparent reason? I'm curious how you would react IRL.

I've not got experience of being the person it's been said to but the person who has said it, normal responses I've gotten are "What's wrong?" and "What have I done now?", but that might be that the people I've ended up saying as a "greeting" now what my personality is like and that in person I'm not that social and usually lost in thought or reading.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 07 Jul 2014, 04:41
...and maybe the Angus-Faye relationship is not as well-working anyways? Maybe Faye and Angus aren't that close after all?
Maybe. I guess Angus' attraction to Faye was mainly because she consistently sassed him, giving him a real challenge. Angus loves challenges, and Faye as a sparring partner gave him a good work-out (mental, as well as physical  :mrgreen:). But now, after conquering her, he is looking for new challenges. I am not saying that Angus is a bad guy. He really likes Faye, and would prefer staying with her, but would not let her be a hindrance to his ambitions. If moving to NYC would mean a breakup with Faye, it would not stop him from moving.

We had a hint that Faye and Angus might have some problems in connection with the latest Hannersplosion (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682), when Angus was not pleased because Faye was drunk. I guess Faye still has alcohol problems, and that this has strained their relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Jul 2014, 04:55
Some STDs don't show any symptoms in women, like gonorrhea is asymptomatic for most women.  (I registered just the post that)
Okay ... actually nifty strategy of the disease, to hide and wait ... but does any other STD have this as well ? AIDS obviously doesnt do it, neither does syphillis, at least not according to Wikipedia.
AIDS can do this, not only to women, it can happen in any gender. A person get it but only get symptoms much latter. In some rare cases the person doesn't get symptoms at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 07 Jul 2014, 05:13
Okay, I wanted to answer a couple postings above but it seems to me I have to answer every second one, so its getting kind of tiring.

Just a few points:

- The breakup was Svens fault. Duh !

- Faye is in a happy relationship with Angus now.

- If Sven wants a girl with big boobs, there are many more women with big boobs around. He doesnt need Faye.

- Very likely Faye has no substantial feelings for Sven left. She feels bad about the breakup, sure, but thats no surprise, considering how it happened. Again, the breakup was Svens fault, not Fayes fault.

- Ultimately its not Fayes responsibility how Sven feels.

- Many people (in fact pretty much everybody) have no relationship for years. Heck, Marten had no relationship for quite some time now. Sven isnt more eglible to a relationship than everybody else, just because he apparently is very attractive.




[...] A person get it but only get symptoms much latter. [...]
Well, yeah. Thats a very common trick of transmitted diseases.

Still thats a different strategy from not having symptoms at all in one gender.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 05:17
Some STDs don't show any symptoms in women, like gonorrhea is asymptomatic for most women.  (I registered just the post that)
Okay ... actually nifty strategy of the disease, to hide and wait ... but does any other STD have this as well ? AIDS obviously doesnt do it, neither does syphillis, at least not according to Wikipedia.
AIDS can do this, not only to women, it can happen in any gender. A person get it but only get symptoms much latter. In some rare cases the person doesn't get symptoms at all.
Yeah, AIDS is a typical STD to not be noticed for a long time. Some weeks after infection, people usually get symptons very similar to flu (so most people think it's just flu), but after that, the virus just stays latently in the body for several years before doing anything again - very dangerous because so many people just do not notice the infection.
Similarly, lots of other STDs don't have symptoms for a long time or have symptoms that are not recognised by the affected: Chlamydia doesn't, Syphilis has symptoms right at the start, but these go away again and people forget about it, then the desease can again stay latent for several years.

(I did a talk on this in high school sex ed and I still kind of remember some facts.
But as a hypochondriac, I really shouldn't be thinking about this any longer, because although I take all possible care against STD infections and have had myself tested, my irrational brain will still try to analyse whether I have any of the symptoms...)

Edit for post in between:
Still thats a different strategy from not having symptoms at all in one gender.
Yeah, but the point here was that both Sven and Faye could have an STD without having noticed so far and both of these strategies apply. I still don't really think this is what Jeph wants to do for the next storyline, but that's a different issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 07 Jul 2014, 05:27
Faye emphatically told Dora that they'd used protection. I don't think Jeph would retcon that. So I'd eliminate HIV from the STD Scare Menu of Horror. There are definitely other possible venereal diseases, but correctly-used condoms are basically 100% effective against the Big One. And when they fail, they fail noticeably.

Add in that even unprotected vaginal intercourse has something like a 1 in 1,000 probability of M>F transmission, and it just seems like to big a stretch.

Also, right after Faye and Sven hooked up (interestingly, that was the plot arc that was going on when I first started reading the comic in early summer 2008) Jeph kinda trolled us for speculating about a pregnancy scare. I have a feeling that might be what's happening here too.

And yet...the strip hasn't had a really heavy plot arc in awhile. So who knows.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 07 Jul 2014, 05:47
I guess he wants to tell her he has changed, and ask for another chance if/when Faye breaks up with Angus.

I'm sure that's what Faye's thinking, hence her horror at Sven turning up at this ironic moment.
But maybe it's only been done for comical effect, and Svens "need to talk" issue will turn out to be unrelated (though I can't think what that could be).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 07 Jul 2014, 08:38
Jeph was posting from FRONCE, as he put it in his tweets.
Ah, didn't read those. That explains everything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Noxx on 07 Jul 2014, 08:41
Faye emphatically told Dora that they'd used protection. I don't think Jeph would retcon that. So I'd eliminate HIV from the STD Scare Menu of Horror.

Faye also drinks like a fish, and keeps plenty to herself. Wouldn't be the first time someone gilded the truth to avoid a haranguing. Of course there's also a universe of other fun diseases out there, hep, warts, etc. I'd agree that it doesn't seem like Jeph to have an STD arc, but artists always grow and change, it's part of the deal.

That's just blue skying though. Given Sven's infatuation I'd side with the idea that he's come around to make some sort of great mea culpa speech in pursuit of another chance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 08:54
Yeah I think Sven is going to say that he still has serious feelings for Faye and that he wants to tell her and see if there's any hope of them getting back together. And then Faye will think about it, especially considering the situation with Angus, and potentially do something stupid. I can't decide what I think the eventual outcome would be though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 08:55
But it doesn't - as I said in my post, it was still Sunday in France (and not Sunday night time; Sunday afternoon).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Jul 2014, 09:12
There's nothing inconsistent, it seems to me.  He usually posts a comic at something like midnight, I guess, and he did that in France, but by local time, so it came up some hours earlier than normal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 07 Jul 2014, 09:35
Faye emphatically told Dora that they'd used protection. I don't think Jeph would retcon that. So I'd eliminate HIV from the STD Scare Menu of Horror.

Faye also drinks like a fish, and keeps plenty to herself. Wouldn't be the first time someone gilded the truth to avoid a haranguing.

True, but I think if Faye was gilding, we would have been given some sort of indication. Generally, when the main characters are being insincere or concealing something, it will be clear to us (dramatic irony, woo!) through facial expression or a stammering delivery of the line. This looks pretty emphatic:

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1126

That's why I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility, but I do think it would constitute retconning.

I almost hope it's an STD arc, though. If the alternative is that he's going to make a pronouncement of love or simply an overture to get her back, I'd be disappointed. I feel like we've already seen that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 07 Jul 2014, 09:41
But it doesn't - as I said in my post, it was still Sunday in France (and not Sunday night time; Sunday afternoon).
Well, not everything, but for one, it explains why you were talking about France :-P .

Sunday Afternoon? When exactly did he post the update? Because when I saw it, it was ca. 22:00 (10 p.m, for the 12-hour-people) here in Switzerland (and therefore also in France). That's not yet midnight, but definitely no longer afternoon either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 Jul 2014, 09:58
He tweeted (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/485879662971977728) at 20:15 UTC. CEST is UTC+2, or 22:15.

And, posting somewhere around 22:00 local time is the norm for him lately. (Granted, usually US Eastern time (UTC-5 in winter, UTC-4 in summer), but hey.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 07 Jul 2014, 10:07
Could ... could it be ... Butts Disease?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 10:21
I was misremembering; I checked what time the posts were from and it'd have been 10pm in France, so I guess he just got done a little earlier than usual (or was ahead and decided to post sooner).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Jul 2014, 10:41
Yeah I think Sven is going to say that he still has serious feelings for Faye and that he wants to tell her and see if there's any hope of them getting back together. And then Faye will think about it, especially considering the situation with Angus, and potentially do something stupid. I can't decide what I think the eventual outcome would be though.

I tend to think this is a more plausible scenario than the STD angle. There's another possibility as well: perhaps Sven feels he's got his shit together sufficiently to wade back into the dating pool but wants to do it "right" this time, and may see Faye as a potential ally/sounding board/accountability buddy. It'd still come with certain potential issues attached, but it might feel safer to him than approaching his sister about it, for any number of reasons. It could also set off speculation and second thoughts on Faye's part (this is Faye, after all) without the two of them necessarily being involved.

Of course, that's just speculation on my part.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Jul 2014, 10:55
Could ... could it be ... Butts Disease?

For God's sake don't joke. Butts disease is no laughing matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lot_jockey on 07 Jul 2014, 11:07
We haven't seen Sven since 2194 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2194). During his last appearance, Sven told Dora that it had been "MONTHS since I hooked up with ANYBODY (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2191)." It was partially because of what happened with him and Faye (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2192).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 07 Jul 2014, 11:17
"What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"
Wait.  The last I'd heard, Faye was kind of rudderless.  She has started making metal sculptures.  So other than leaving her friends behind, which happens to many people who try to pursue careers, where do they not align?
Also, unless sex with her is just MIND-BLOWING or Jeph wants to play the Twilight card ("I love you because you are irresistible"), Faye doesn't seem like The One That Got Away for anybody.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Jul 2014, 11:19
Sven needs a 3D scan of Faye's body. He got an AI girlfriend and he is ordering a custom body for her.
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 11:31
"What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"
Wait.  The last I'd heard, Faye was kind of rudderless.  She has started making metal sculptures.  So other than leaving her friends behind, which happens to many people who try to pursue careers, where do they not align?
Yeah, this is kinda what I was talking about in my first post on page 1, too! Maybe we'll know in the coming strips? Or maybe not, because they will be focused on Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 07 Jul 2014, 12:09
Who was working on the QC timeline project? was that over on Wikia?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 07 Jul 2014, 12:13
Faye has also become assistant manager at Coffee of Doom too. She's set down roots in town, and is uncomfortable with change. If Angus gets this job, he'll have to move to The City. Since it seems that Faye has no desire or intention to move, and Angus' career is requiring him to move then their future is looking pretty dim, really. Notwithstanding the 'we'll try things long distance'. Which in this case seems code for 'neither of us wants to give our our careers or break up, so we're going to lip-service to staying together even though we both know this will probably be the end.' I would say that pretty much classifies as Faye and Angus wanting different things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 12:14
I guess Faye wants to stay where she is and pootle along with life, while Angus wants to pursue his dreams and ambitions. I can see how that would be a potential mismatch - he could get frustrated with her and she could feel left behind or abandoned.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 Jul 2014, 12:24
I don't believe Jeph will replay the Branwen/Davan situation from Something Positive. There has to be something else in the pipes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Jul 2014, 13:10
Not shipping, just speculating: maybe Sven has a thing for Hanners? She's comfortable with him, and his dynamic with her has been different than we've seen him with any of the other women in his life. He'd have to tread lightly there and likely knows that. It could be that he wants to pick Faye's brain about it and not get the crap beat out of him by one or more people by just making a move.

Of course, A: I'm probably off by a mile, and B: tonight's strip will probably involve Dale/May, Dale/Marigold, or Steve eating cereal, just 'cause Jeph's good for building suspense like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 07 Jul 2014, 13:30
Comic's up!

And no STDs in sight. Faye's reaction was definitely the one I expected to that statement from SVen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Jul 2014, 13:30
Wuv! Twue wuv!  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jul 2014, 13:30
TOTALLY CALLED IT.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 13:38
Faye has also become assistant manager at Coffee of Doom too. She's set down roots in town, and is uncomfortable with change. If Angus gets this job, he'll have to move to The City. Since it seems that Faye has no desire or intention to move, and Angus' career is requiring him to move then their future is looking pretty dim, really. Notwithstanding the 'we'll try things long distance'. Which in this case seems code for 'neither of us wants to give our our careers or break up, so we're going to lip-service to staying together even though we both know this will probably be the end.' I would say that pretty much classifies as Faye and Angus wanting different things.
Huh, yeah, if you put it like this it seems pretty obvious. I think you're right. Faye probably doesn't see any way that they will be able to live close to each other again if both of them follow on their chosen path. And long-distance is fine if you know it's for a limited time, but not good if there's no perspective for it to end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Jul 2014, 13:38
I like the love confession much better than the STD storyline. I am glad it's going that way!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Jul 2014, 13:45
Faye has also become assistant manager at Coffee of Doom too. She's set down roots in town, and is uncomfortable with change. If Angus gets this job, he'll have to move to The City. Since it seems that Faye has no desire or intention to move, and Angus' career is requiring him to move then their future is looking pretty dim, really. Notwithstanding the 'we'll try things long distance'. Which in this case seems code for 'neither of us wants to give our our careers or break up, so we're going to lip-service to staying together even though we both know this will probably be the end.' I would say that pretty much classifies as Faye and Angus wanting different things.
Huh, yeah, if you put it like this it seems pretty obvious. I think you're right. Faye probably doesn't see any way that they will be able to live close to each other again if both of them follow on their chosen path. And long-distance is fine if you know it's for a limited time, but not good if there's no perspective for it to end.

One of them (Angus) has a chosen path. Faye, like Marten, has something more akin to a pothole. A pothole in which she's comfortable, but a pothole nonetheless.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 07 Jul 2014, 13:46
TOTALLY CALLED IT.
Yes. But is it cool to confess his love to someone who is in a relationship? Instead, he could have said something like:
Quote
I wish things had been different. I want you to know that I regret deeply what happened. I miss you very much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Jul 2014, 13:59
Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 07 Jul 2014, 14:13
"What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"
Wait.  The last I'd heard, Faye was kind of rudderless.  She has started making metal sculptures.  So other than leaving her friends behind, which happens to many people who try to pursue careers, where do they not align?
Not particularly being driven in a direction doesn't mean she wants to be pulled in just any direction, though. Like, if I went out for dinner I might not know what I want, but I wouldn't want to be given just anything off the menu.


I have to say that I have a bad feeling for Faye and Angus. (Has this been discussed much in last week's thread? I didn't read it as thoroughly as most other weeks.)
What do you think Faye means by "What Angus wants and what I want don't match up"? If it's not the long-distance thing, I really can't see what exactly she's talking about. Just that Angus wants to get a different job?

Faye wants thing to stay the same.
Yeah sure, but with her reaction, I was thinking that there must be something else. I wouldn't question a well-working relationship that way (and withhold my fears from my partner) because of such a change - but then, I am of course not Faye and maybe the Angus-Faye relationship is not as well-working anyways? Maybe Faye and Angus aren't that close after all? We don't see that much of any close, emotional interaction between them in-comic.
Or maybe I am reading way more into Faye's reaction than there is. I just hope that she gets through this episode in the way that will ultimately make her the happiest (be it by sticking with Angus and learning to cope with the change in their relationship or by deciding that she does not want to stay in that relationship any longer - right now, I am really not sure which one it will be).

Well, they sort of discussed it before. Not just 'I want things to be the same' on Faye's front, but Angus has (some implied some canon) goals and dreams of living in the city, fancy work, busyrushrush city life, as opposed to Faye, who just wants to be comfortable, isn't ambitious (she has more 'purpose' than Marten, but she's not going for famous/rich/etc) working with/around her friends, and could pursue her art without uprooting that whole thing, if that is her dream.

Those incompatibilities aren't great for the long term, moving in together eventually, or even just for getting along, especially once they get logn distance and as individuals are living in the type of life they planned, but not together. That makes for different experiences, which of course are good, but on the other hand can also mean that as individuals they may develop even farther apart from each other.

...or the distance could make them love and appreciate each other more and a reasonable middle will be found. I'm not saying it will or has to turn stale, just that there's plenty of reasoning for Faye to think that.

- Very likely Faye has no substantial feelings for Sven left. She feels bad about the breakup, sure, but thats no surprise, considering how it happened. Again, the breakup was Svens fault, not Fayes fault.

- Ultimately its not Fayes responsibility how Sven feels.
On these particular points-
- I don't know. Sven was a good friend/counsellor to her before/during the period they were banging. They weren't extremely close for long, but he gave her a place to crash when she fought with the others, talked to her about Dora and Marten, and was generally a friend. As well as that, it's implied later that they were together off screen sometimes (mentioned in the scene about flipping couch cushions), so there's even more time they could have been getting close with each other. They always were friends with benefits, not just banging. If he hadn't banged the other girl, he probably would still be close with Faye and a main part of the cast even if they stopped banging. (I can't remember what words are good on this forum, so 'banging' it is). Even if they're not romantic ways, she did/does? at least like him. It might not mean anything anymore, you could be totally right, I just wanted to point out that there is a basis for her.

- Yes. I hope Faye realizes that tomorrowcomic.

Personally, I always liked the idea of Faye/Sven at least having gone a bit longer (maybe just because of the exposition it would have provided for both of them, since we don't usually see Sven and it's a different situation than Faye was used to), so I'd be happy with this going somewhere.

I think it's more likely that Faye's going to turn Sven down (that detail's pretty much 100% sure, to me), eventually but not immediately end up breaking up with Angus nonetheless, and probably not end up with Sven. But if she does, it will be a while from now, not a sudden switcheroo from Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 07 Jul 2014, 14:19
You know, she's taking it better than expected.  :mrgreen:

Edit:
Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL

And now it's stuck in mine. THANKS.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 07 Jul 2014, 14:37
D'aww, Sven! Oh noes, Faye and Angus! I'm so conflicted about this!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 07 Jul 2014, 14:44
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/091/961/shitstorm.jpg)

You know, she's taking it better than expected.  :mrgreen:

So far...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 07 Jul 2014, 15:03
And the award for the most unlikely love rhombus goes to....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 07 Jul 2014, 15:09
Yeah I think Sven is going to say that he still has serious feelings for Faye and that he wants to tell her and see if there's any hope of them getting back together. And then Faye will think about it, especially considering the situation with Angus, and potentially do something stupid. I can't decide what I think the eventual outcome would be though.

Surely the (ill)fated Faye/Marty hookup would happen before another Sven 'put on some pants' episode...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 07 Jul 2014, 15:17
TOTALLY CALLED IT.

Yup, and I was wrong to think that was too obvious.
Lots of dramatic tension between the three of them now. Whatever happens is going to hurt someone or at least make them very uncomfortable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 07 Jul 2014, 15:31
God damnit Sven
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 07 Jul 2014, 15:41
Sven, what are you doing. Sven. Stahp!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Jul 2014, 15:45
Aaaaaargh!
(was my real-life reaction).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: crazdgamer on 07 Jul 2014, 15:58
The next comic is going to be Faye getting super pissed and Sven going all "LOL JK this is really what I'm here to talk to you about..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Jul 2014, 16:04
Then she punches him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Jul 2014, 16:14
The next comic is going to be Faye getting super pissed and Sven going all "LOL JK this is really what I'm here to talk to you about..."
At first I wondered whether you meant pissed as in "angry", or in the UK-slang sense of "drunk". Given that this is Faye, it'll probably be both.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 07 Jul 2014, 16:15
Sven, what are you doing. Sven. Stahp!  :psyduck:

No relationship is 'safe' in QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: speedchuck on 07 Jul 2014, 16:17
Sven is my favorite character. I am so glad to see him back. I'm also bothered by possible Fangus problems. I'm conflicted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 07 Jul 2014, 16:22
Remember when we had a lot of speculation that Fangus moving to New York was a way to take Fay out of QC?

Instead of being put on the bus, she's being put on the looooooooooooooove bus.

(Seriously, the question is whether Faye wants to be more than Angus's "boyfling" and if she does, does she have to go to NY to firm it up? I don't see settling for a "love the one you're with," especially if it's Sven.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LocoJoe on 07 Jul 2014, 16:30
Oh man, the next few weeks are going to be good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roxtar on 07 Jul 2014, 16:36
flashback to the whole padma/elliot thing: "just tell her"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 07 Jul 2014, 16:38
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Jul 2014, 17:17
Run, Sven!  Run!

Someone really needs to get Marten on the red Martenphone to deal with this situation.  Too bad there isn't such a thing as a red Martenphone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Jul 2014, 17:23
Run, Sven!  Run!

Someone really needs to get Marten on the red Martenphone to deal with this situation.  Too bad there isn't such a thing as a red Martenphone.

For some reason, "red Martenphone" sounds like it should be a relative to the wren or the titmouse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 07 Jul 2014, 17:26
Aww geez, Sven...  You really don't realize that that is a horrible bombshell to a woman who's moved on and fallen in love with another dude??
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 07 Jul 2014, 17:44
Only if she's vulnerable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Jul 2014, 18:37
Aww geez, Sven...  You really don't realize that that is a horrible bombshell to a woman who's moved on and fallen in love with another dude??

It's Sven.  He sometimes has troubles seeing past his own ego.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 07 Jul 2014, 18:51
Wow, Sven.  Wow.

For the longest time he was the Don Juan of the comic.  Completely irresistible to women for his mastery of charming indifference to them.  I guess it really only takes one?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 07 Jul 2014, 18:57
Sven.... no. Just no. Bad Sven. Bad!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 07 Jul 2014, 19:02
It just still leaves me scratching my head, but I'm a pretty logical person.  If I break up with you, its usually for a concrete reason.  My best guess is Sven never had anybody be the one to break it off with him.  Mostly its just unclear to me why Faye is 'the one'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Jul 2014, 19:46
*reads comic*

*goes to WCDT for the first time in forever*

(http://i.imgur.com/iZlF6yG.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 07 Jul 2014, 20:10
Aww geez, Sven...  You really don't realize that that is a horrible bombshell to a woman who's moved on and fallen in love with another dude??

It's Sven.  He sometimes has troubles seeing past his own ego.

I think you mean always in there...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 07 Jul 2014, 20:12
It could be as simple as she's the one who first made him question his sex-crazed womanizing ways. He mistook his new found desires to be with one person for being in love with Faye.

Or maybe he things Faye really is the one for him. Who knows. Infatuation is funny like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Jul 2014, 20:30
TOTALLY CALLED IT.
Yes. But is it cool to confess his love to someone who is in a relationship? Instead, he could have said something like:
Quote
I wish things had been different. I want you to know that I regret deeply what happened. I miss you very much.
Aww geez, Sven...  You really don't realize that that is a horrible bombshell to a woman who's moved on and fallen in love with another dude??

Calm down. He is not used to this thing called love and is still trying to get the hang of things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 07 Jul 2014, 20:31
Mostly its just unclear to me why Faye is 'the one'.

It's probably unclear to him as well, but I can't help but point out that there is a pretty fair chasm between "in love with you" and "you're the one."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 07 Jul 2014, 20:35
Mostly its just unclear to me why Faye is 'the one'.

It's probably unclear to him as well, but I can't help but point out that there is a pretty fair chasm between "in love with you" and "you're the one."
\\
Well, he's chasing her down at work and protesting his love to her, when he probably knows she's in a relationship.  I mean, its been YEARS since I felt like anybody was 'the one', or felt strongly enough that I'd pull that stunt.  So I'm just a little mystified. Because to me, Faye's one of those girls you DON'T get in a relationship with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DonInKansas on 07 Jul 2014, 20:39
Run, Sven!  Run!

Someone really needs to get Marten on the red Martenphone to deal with this situation.  Too bad there isn't such a thing as a red Martenphone.

For some reason, "red Martenphone" sounds like it should be a relative to the wren or the titmouse.

Red Martenphone is my Arcade Fire cover band.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jul 2014, 20:45
He is not used to this thing called love
"What is this emotion you humans call 'wuv'?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jul 2014, 20:47
Because to me, Faye's one of those girls you DON'T get in a relationship with.
I genuinely don't know what you mean by this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Jul 2014, 21:07
People are so shocked over Sven's revelation that they're posting in the wrong WCDT!  :psyduck:

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 07 Jul 2014, 21:38
He is not used to this thing called love
"What is this emotion you humans call 'wuv'?"
THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 07 Jul 2014, 22:29
God, Sven. Such a Mosby move.

Am I the only one who thinks he might be trying to start the conversation off by saying that just to get a reaction out of her before bringing the ACTUAL issue up?


Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 07 Jul 2014, 22:38
I hope that this comic gives Sven and Faye a way to patch things up between them... and then Sven can become a regular member of the comic. I really enjoy Sven as a character and I would like to see more of him.

I also want to see him jam with deathmole!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Jul 2014, 23:16
omg that would be so kawaii :3
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 07 Jul 2014, 23:31
Pro-tip, Sven:

If you think you love someone, keep your trap shut; tell them when you know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Jul 2014, 23:37
For some people, "I think" is just a roundabout way of saying "I know". Also, it may make it easier to deal with if the other person declines your advances.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: foolsguinea on 07 Jul 2014, 23:48
NO. NO.

No to Sven, no to Jeph, just no.

AAAH!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 07 Jul 2014, 23:52
Murder him, Faye ! Murder him dead !!! :evil:

I would never have guessed that Jeph would go for such a direct route. Of all the possible explanations why Sven would want to talk to Faye, this was the most obvious one. Then again, maybe thats why it wasnt really that obvious in the end. Really, I wouldnt have expected this ! And with this intro - "nooo its not a bombsheel" - yeah, right ! - the effect is maxed.



I hope that this comic gives Sven and Faye a way to patch things up between them... and then Sven can become a regular member of the comic. I really enjoy Sven as a character and I would like to see more of him.

I also want to see him jam with deathmole!
Highly unlikely.

Also, then I want to at least have a Raven relationship, too ! Then again, Raven in a relationship ? Damn you imagination, I found an end of you !



God, Sven. Such a Mosby move.
They make Ted Mosby into a verb now ? Isnt that tv show over now ?



Remember when we had a lot of speculation that Fangus moving to New York was a way to take Fay out of QC?
Actually no, I must have completely missed that discussion. I find the idea very absurd, too. Faye is after all one of the most important characters with a LOT of story under her sleeve.

I dont think Marten, Faye, Hanners or Dora will ever be removed from this comic. They have been with us since the start, I think they will stay with us now.



No relationship is 'safe' in QC.
For the record, neither is any in reallife. Thats why its perfectly OK they arent safe in QC, either.



D'aww, Sven! Oh noes, Faye and Angus!
"D'awww" ??????????????????????????

He is most highly insensitive in that scene.

"D'awww" is about the least reaction I would get here.



I'm so conflicted about this!!
Me too !!!

Should she use the broadsword since there is one close by, or is an axe just too mandatory for axemurdering ?

I just dont know !!!!!



Yes. But is it cool to confess his love to someone who is in a relationship? Instead, he could have said something like:
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I wish things had been different. I want you to know that I regret deeply what happened. I miss you very much.
That would have been a sensible way to say it.

Also, even I have to admit that this doesnt sound like Sven at all.



TOTALLY CALLED IT.
Why, congrats to you !




Wuv! Twue wuv!  :roll:
:?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Jul 2014, 00:06
And with this intro - "nooo its not a bombsheel" - yeah, right ! - the effect is maxed.

He did not say that it was not a bombshell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 Jul 2014, 00:13
Wuv! Twue wuv!  :roll:
:?
It is a recurring theme in the movie "Princess Bride", which I do recommend.
Ironically, the only excerpt I can find on Youtube is where it is mentioned in the context of a forced marriage: http:// youtu.be/_bY0fdgpISc
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: gopher on 08 Jul 2014, 00:13
Nicely written. It has done what I thought was impossible, made me sympathise with Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fenriswolf on 08 Jul 2014, 00:21
This comic made me laugh (out loud!) Faye's reaction being exactly what I would be thinking, and Sven being soooo inappropriate. I always kind of liked Sven, and hope this can go somewhere interesting/not horribly dramatic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 08 Jul 2014, 00:54
That complicates things. I've known one 3-person marriage that works, and a lot more less formal relationships that didn't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 00:55
Calm down. He is not used to this thing called love and is still trying to get the hang of things.
I guess you are right. According to Dora, he has never been in a serious relationship. He is just a Quantum Jerk (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=797) that gets all the hot chicks (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107) without really trying.

Sven accidentally hit Faye with his Come Hither (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1078) look. That was when the Sven/Faye affair really started. According to Faye's theory, Sven has a evil, sexy cockatrice gaze (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1656). The problem for Sven is that it has backfired.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 08 Jul 2014, 01:40
I like how Sven did not deny this was a bombshell. He simply said it was not horrible (which is kinda true).

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I dont think Marten, Faye, Hanners or Dora will ever be removed from this comic. They have been with us since the start, I think they will stay with us now.

Imagine that: Faye snaps, murders Sven. Dora has to be a witness against her dear friend. After the conviction, she breaks up with Tai and enters a convent to reflect on the fortunes of the world. Heartbroken Marten finds comfort in the arms of Padma, only to decide this is all for naught and goes on a road trip to find himself. Hanners, having lost her friends, goes back to space, transfers her brain into Station's matrix and lives happily until reentry with it. Padma replaces Dora at CoD as a tribute to Marten. Raven, embittered by all the drama becomes a snarky CoD Abby Sciuto. Pintsize, out of control since Marten left levels the city in a robotic tentacled monstruosity. Hentai ensues. The end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 08 Jul 2014, 01:50
I guess you are right. According to Dora, he has never been in a serious relationship. He is just a Quantum Jerk (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=797) that gets all the hot chicks (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107) without really trying.

Define "not (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1251) really trying." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1334)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 02:05
Define "not (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1251) really trying." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1334)
Sven gave us a lot of insight into his mindset in a dialog (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=798) he had with Faye early in the series. Basically, he could get more chicks than he could handle, and therefore he had to prioritize. He used to prefer blondes, but that was before he encountered Faye's assets (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 08 Jul 2014, 02:13
This could be very bad - for Faye's liver.

Between this mess and her concern over Angus possibly leaving, she now has more than sufficient "reason" to start hitting the bottle again. Hard. This will of course do wonders for her job performance , possibly leading to a demotion if she's lucky, and being fired if she's not.

Remember she got drunk (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) just over the suggestion that Angus might get a new job that required him to move away. With all this going on, she may go on a bender. Perhaps right after she's punched Sven through CoD's window.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 Jul 2014, 02:52
*reads comic*

*goes to WCDT for the first time in forever*

(http://i.imgur.com/iZlF6yG.gif)
What iduguphergrave said.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 03:06
This could be very bad - for Faye's liver.
Indeed. Angus will not be pleased (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) if Faye hits the bottle again; possibly leading directly to a breakup. Faye will then drink even more, but may eventually be rescued by Sven. In that case, is Sven an A-hole for causing this to happen? Or is he the white prince that rescues her, and they will live happily ever after?

I really hope Faye's alcoholism will not resurface, but I am afraid this will happen. However, I hope her friends (Marten and Hannelore in particular) will be able to help and support her.

EDIT: I found the Chernobylore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1108) strip, where Hanners went critical to help Faye. I guess we need more of those moments.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 08 Jul 2014, 03:17
I don't know why people are so upset about Sven being honest about his feelings and calling him insensitive - like what he did was a bad thing.
I don't think it is, as long as he doesn't do it to - as someone earlier accurately put it - make Faye responsible for his feelings and put pressure on her to do something about it.
Sure, it comes at a very unfortunate time for Faye, but Sven could not know that. If Faye and Angus were a happy couple right now, would you still say that it's bad and inconsiderate? At such a time, Faye might easily tell him sorry, nice that he told her, but she's over it, and everyone (in the forum I mean) would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.
(Did people think it insensitive when Elliot did it? I don't think so, and that was a similar situation. I think if Sven's intent is the same as Elliot's - namely, getting it off his chest, but not expecting anything in return - it's really perfectly fine.)

I actually like Sven this way. This is one of the few times we've actually seen him show real feelings in the comic! (And probably the first time he is so vulnerable emotionally.) Of course being unhappily in love sucks (there is no way I can see this end with Faye and Sven getting together anytime soon - and I think Sven doesn't expect that either), but this whole episode has evidently already made him think a lot about himself and will probably lead to him being happier in the long run.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Jul 2014, 03:26
On the one hand I agree that it's good that Sven is expressing emotions and genuinely feeling something other than lust. However, I also think it's unfair of him to place that on Faye. What is he hoping to achieve? He knows that Faye is with Angus. Will telling her how he feels actually help him? I feel like the only reason you'd share that with someone is in the hope that they will feel the same and start a relationship with you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 08 Jul 2014, 03:34
This could be very bad - for Faye's liver.
Indeed. Angus will not be pleased (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) if Faye hits the bottle again; possibly leading directly to a breakup. Faye will then drink even more, but may eventually be rescued by Sven.

EDIT: I found the Chernobylore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1108) strip, where Hanners went critical to help Faye. I guess we need more of those moments.

Yep, the strip you linked is another reminder that Faye tends to turn to strong cheap liquor in times of stress, and this situation definitely qualifies. And you're right, Angus will not be happy in that case, and the resulting fight may end their relationship. However let's be clear, the resulting breakup won't have been Sven's fault then, it will have been Faye's fault for using a bad coping mechanism. Hard drinkers can be very difficult for light or non-drinkers to live with, after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 08 Jul 2014, 04:14
On the one hand I agree that it's good that Sven is expressing emotions and genuinely feeling something other than lust. However, I also think it's unfair of him to place that on Faye. What is he hoping to achieve? He knows that Faye is with Angus. Will telling her how he feels actually help him? I feel like the only reason you'd share that with someone is in the hope that they will feel the same and start a relationship with you.
Hmm, I don't know. Probably most of the time that's the case, yes. But you could also just do it to get it off your chest, right? Like Elliot did. I think a lot of people do feel better if they just say it out loud; even if they are rejected. As I said, it turns bad precisely when the person confessing their feelings expects the other person to do something about it; then it pressures the other person and makes them feel bad. We'll see if that's what Sven does or not (I could imagine it happening; and then you would be right: He would be acting selfishly again).
I do think that it is always slightly awkward having someone tell you they're in love with you when you aren't. But nobody should have to hide their feelings because of that as long as they understand that telling someone you are in love with them does absolutely not make the other person responsible for your feelings and that they're likely to get a rejection and have to live with it.

Again: In this situation it is deeply uncomfortable for Faye, because the timing is so unfortunate. But this is not Sven's fault. He does not know anything about what is going on with Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 04:43
On the one hand I agree that it's good that Sven is expressing emotions and genuinely feeling something other than lust. However, I also think it's unfair of him to place that on Faye. What is he hoping to achieve? He knows that Faye is with Angus. Will telling her how he feels actually help him? I feel like the only reason you'd share that with someone is in the hope that they will feel the same and start a relationship with you.
Sven has always got what he wanted. The Faye situation is new to him, and he has problems adapting. Moreover, Faye is the first girl he has ever fallen in love with. All the others were just casual flings. He is the classic man-whore, who now wants to change his ways.

He does know Faye is in a relationship, but is probably ignorant to the conflicts this could cause. He just wants Faye back. Maybe he is insensitive or egoistical, but not inherently evil.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 Jul 2014, 04:51
Sven reminds me of myself in a similar but distinct situation (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?topic=29624.msg1235561.msg#1235561) with the relevant advice that was given to me then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Wimblesaurus on 08 Jul 2014, 04:58
God, Sven. Such a Mosby move.

Am I the only one who thinks he might be trying to start the conversation off by saying that just to get a reaction out of her before bringing the ACTUAL issue up?

Nope.  It's plausible.  Not all that likely, but plausible.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 08 Jul 2014, 05:11
Sven reminds me of myself in a similar but distinct situation (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?topic=29624.msg1235561.msg#1235561) with the relevant advice that was given to me then.

I don't think these situations are comparable. Sven's feelings are current. Saying it out loud, getting rejected, and then taking some time to heal might be the better choice with this. Otherwise one might harbour these feelings for far too long without achieving anything, with the inevitable rejection coming later anyways. Sometimes one just needs to hear the other person speak the words, because the subconsciousness won't accept it otherwise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 08 Jul 2014, 05:12
Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lady_Lynx on 08 Jul 2014, 05:37
Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.

Left field (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1783)? Really (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764)? I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him, but it's been pretty obvious he's hot for Faye  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1745) for a long time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 06:54
Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.
Left field (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1783)? Really (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764)? I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him, but it's been pretty obvious he's hot for Faye  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1745) for a long time.
Lady_Lynx: I think you found the most important strips that illustrates Sven's obsession with Faye. Moreover, it was the first time he had been dumped, as evident here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1114) and here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1128). However, they had another fling (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1191) later, and were friends with benefits (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1221) for a while, where Sven was sometimes a huge a$$hole (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1307); before Faye finally dumped him (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1341) because of the Gina Riversmith (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1334) affair.

One of Sven's ethical guidelines is that he would not cuckold a friend (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1319), and he would not bang some dude's lady intentionally. Sven might not consider Angus a friend, but at least he knows who he is, and that Angus and Faye are in a relationship. Sven's ethical guidelines are apparently quite malleable.

Regarding "forgetting Sven": Apparently, not everyone in this forum has read the entire history several times. I remember it took me quite a while as well after discovering the series; I first had to be hooked on the current plots and getting to know the characters, before delving into the history. Also, the earliest strips are really not that good in plot and drawing style, making it difficult to progress to the better parts starting around strip #400. Still, the earliest strips are important in order to get the whole background story.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 08 Jul 2014, 07:03
Regarding "forgetting Sven": Apparently, not everyone in this forum has read the entire history several times.
There's no need to be ancy about it. It was a surprise to me, too. Not so much in terms of Sven though, that's believable, more so Jeph introducing this at this time.
He's like the George R.R. Martin of relationship drama  :emotrex:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 Jul 2014, 07:25
NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 08 Jul 2014, 08:00
Probably helped by a skein of wild geese doing the research for him.  ;D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 08 Jul 2014, 08:06
One of Sven's ethical guidelines is that he would not cuckold a friend (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1319), and he would not bang some dude's lady intentionally. Sven might not consider Angus a friend, but at least he knows who he is, and that Angus and Faye are in a relationship. Sven's ethical guidelines are apparently quite malleable.

really? Sven just said he loved Faye, he hasn't said "I love you, you should immediately break up with Angus for me" or "cheat on Angus with me"

In fact, if getting Faye to cheat on Angus was Sven's goal, I imagine he would have approached Faye very differently, hanging out, having a few drinks, etc...

Instead Sven is being straightforward. He has laid his cards on the table.

Is this the best timing for Faye? not really, but Sven has been so removed from their group that he has no way of knowing what is going on with her, and apparently he is so infatuated with Faye that he isn't picking up the overbearing "this is not a good time to dump more on Faye" cues.

Tl:dr I'm not sure what Sven expects to get out of telling this to Faye, but I don't think he is trying to manipulate her into being unfaithful to Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 08 Jul 2014, 08:10
Why do people so frequently do such violence to the phrase, "I'm in love with                "?
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated. And, unless you are the kind of psychotic who believes inanimate objects are capable of emotional states, no non-sentient object loves you. Hence, you're not in love with any inanimate objects. I love mango-lemonade with OJ. I'm not "in love with" mango-lemonade with OJ.

This brings us to a recent Devil's Panties strip.
(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140707.png)

It would have been more grammaticly, logicly, and emotionally accurate for Sven to have said, "I think I love you." Okay, maybe not so much logicly with Faye. For him to say, "I think I'm in love with you." was for him to preposit that Faye loves him back in the same way. Then again, Sven is the quintessential "bro".

 Warning - while you were typing a you took an arrow to the knee. You may wish to stop adventuring.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 Jul 2014, 08:31
GROAAAAAAAANNN
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jul 2014, 08:42
There's no need to be ancy about it.
Ancy? Please explain.
NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.
If you are not feeling it, you are welcome to ignore it :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jul 2014, 08:43
I'm hoping there's a "BUT..." after that statement. 

(note that there's only one "T" there)

I love you BUT... I know it wouldn't work out / I know you're in a relationship / I know I fucked things up between us, etc. 

He's got a problem, not her.  Well, she has some issues too, just nothing he knows about.  He needs to move on and has finally figured out why he can't - he let what could have been the one get away.  Practically pushed her right out.  So he's confessing to her, hoping to get it out of his system, hoping against all logic that she's done with Angus and able to take him back, hoping for closure, hell, he's not even really sure what he's hoping for. 

It's a move of desperation. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 08 Jul 2014, 08:49
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For him to say, "I think I'm in love with you." was for him to preposit that Faye loves him back in the same way.

Gné? Rien capté...
(English version: What? Didn't get the joke.)

Okay, so, we knew Sven had a particular thing for Faye. The one thing we did not see coming was the timing. Somehow, I just don't think Faye will go on a binge. She has grown. She still has issues and she is still a smartass. However, she seemed to have settled into the relationship, something she had not done at the time of her last bottle mistake.
Well, we shall see, but I think we can rule out murder and hangover as possible outcomes. Not drama, though. Never drama.

Warning - while you were typing an eldritch abomination has taken control of your town. You may wish to dodge the brain slug.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 08 Jul 2014, 08:59
Why do people so frequently do such violence to the phrase, "I'm in love with                "?
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated. And, unless you are the kind of psychotic who believes inanimate objects are capable of emotional states, no non-sentient object loves you. Hence, you're not in love with any inanimate objects. I love mango-lemonade with OJ. I'm not "in love with" mango-lemonade with OJ.
Based on my understanding of the English language as I have seen it used (and as a non-native English-speaker this percecption may well be erroneous) I always thought being in love with someone is like having a crush, being infatuated, whereas actually loving someone is the deeper feeling you have after you've been with them for a while (this distinction certainly exists in German: "verliebt sein" vs. "jemanden lieben"). I would certainly not say I love someone just because I have a crush on them/ am infatuated with them. And I thought being in love was something similar, just sounding less ridiculous/negative.
Please correct me if I am wrong and tell me how it really is! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WilliamCA on 08 Jul 2014, 09:11
/co/ actually called this yesterday.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Jul 2014, 09:32
I've never heard of being in love with someone being something limited to reciprocal love.

If Sven just wanted to get it off his chest, why didn't he go and talk to Dora about it? She could have acknowledged his feelings whilst advising him about whether or not an approach to Faye would be welcomed or appropriate (spoiler: no) and there would have been no repercussions. That is what siblings are for!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jul 2014, 09:46
Whether the love is returned has nothing to do with it. Here's an example: I love my family. I'm in love with Sarah. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mabhatter on 08 Jul 2014, 10:40
Fayes week just gets better and better.

Now Faye doesn't have to leave the coffeehouse if Agnus gets the part.  What a CONVIENENT twist of fate that keeps Jeph from having to write out a main character. Someday they'll figure out that starving web artist/musician taking up the booth and nursing one coffee is messing with their reality!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 08 Jul 2014, 12:03
Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL

Talking about that, this is first thing that popped into my head:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Jul 2014, 12:44

(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140707.png)

See as someone with several women in my life I refer to as pets and keep collared I will counter and say that in the right context it's only proper to love your pets :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Jul 2014, 13:20
Wow! This bombshell came right out of left field. I had forgotten Sven.
I know it's been 4 years since we've seen him...

Has it been that long? I found QC back in November and binge-read it from start to finish, so my sense of what happened when in "real time" is a bit off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Jul 2014, 13:25
This is not a good omen, eh, Aziraphale?

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Jul 2014, 13:27
This is not a good omen, eh, Aziraphale?

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You got it right. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Jul 2014, 14:57
I suppose "Steve is eating cereal" should have been a poll option.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 Jul 2014, 15:02
DAMN YOU WILLI-

uhm, hold on, I mean

DAMN YOU JEPHZIBAH!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Jul 2014, 15:03
Panel 4: Should 'Elf:' be included, do you think?

Also, I keep checking it, knowing that I don't want to read it until tomorrow after I get up for work. >:( SPOILERS
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 08 Jul 2014, 15:12
DAMN YOU WILLI-

uhm, hold on, I mean

DAMN YOU JEPHZIBAH!

Agreed.   :x    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Jul 2014, 15:13
Panel 4: Should 'Elf:' be included, do you think?

Surely he is addressing Steve as "Elf"!  What we are meant to make of that, I don't know. 

And in case anyone's speculating whether Jeph has been reading the forums, I see that he last logged in almost four months ago (though he could browse without logging in, I guess).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 08 Jul 2014, 15:18
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/shocked/surprise-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Jul 2014, 15:19
DAMMIT JACQ..... actually, that was pretty funny.  Cereal with embedded AI has amazing IMPLICATIONS!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Jul 2014, 15:22
I think the elf was a mistake carried over from scripting.

Also, my response:

WHAT. THE. HELL.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Jul 2014, 15:27
Of course we won't know until the next strip if this actually happened, or if Steve is having an alcohol induced hallucination.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Jul 2014, 15:29
from what I remember of his process (probably have references on tumblr or somewhere) he edits scripts in a straight up text editor, sketches, inks, flats, colors in photoshop (mostly ) and then creates the speech bubbles and cut-and-pastes from the script at the end... he probably just copied a little too much.

Or, because it's an elf in Alpha distribution, the problem is with the elf's AI programming and not Jeph's process

Edit: can't wait for the callback next time we see steve and cosette's apartment... box upon box of cereal everywhere
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Jul 2014, 15:30
Of course we won't know until the next strip if this actually happened, or if Steve is having an alcohol induced hallucination.

We may never know!

And I like the idea of the AI referring to Steve as an elf, anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 08 Jul 2014, 15:40
Fucking CALLED IT. Yessssssssssss
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Jul 2014, 15:44
Consumer Entertainment Robot Experimental Alpha-Level.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mordhaus on 08 Jul 2014, 15:51
I had that exact same thing happen after dropping LSD. Only my elf was actually Danny Devito.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Jul 2014, 16:00
I had that exact same thing happen after dropping LSD. Only my elf was actually Danny Devito.
Wait, Danny deVito, or Tiny Danny deVito? Because the fullsize one shouldn't fit in a cereal box, hey?
Unless you're into those super-jumbo family packs or something….
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tormuse on 08 Jul 2014, 16:06
Edit:
Sorry, this is the first thing that popped into my brain...
Not a valid youtube URL

And now it's stuck in mine. THANKS.

*Sigh* I read this post this morning, about eleven hours ago, and the song's been in my head ever since.

Sure, it comes at a very unfortunate time for Faye, but Sven could not know that. If Faye and Angus were a happy couple right now, would you still say that it's bad and inconsiderate? At such a time, Faye might easily tell him sorry, nice that he told her, but she's over it, and everyone (in the forum I mean) would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.

I doubt that.  Faye felt really hurt by Sven.  He was the first man she reached out to after a long period of not being able to be with anyone and his cheating stung her really badly.  Even if things were totally hunky dory with Angus now, I would expect her to be *really* guarded around Sven.  Sven's fling with Faye ended due to Sven's choices and dealing with the consequences of that choice is something he has to learn to live with and he needs to deal with it apart from her.  Even if he's simply "getting it off his chest," he's essentially dumping problems that he created himself on to someone who he hurt with those problems and that is really not a nice thing to do.  If he really feels a need to talk to someone about it, he should talk to someone else, really *anyone* else, besides Faye, the one he hurt.  Talking to Faye about it is inconsiderate, even in the best of circumstances, and I don't think everyone on the forum would laugh about it and be sympathetic with Sven.

(Did people think it insensitive when Elliot did it? I don't think so, and that was a similar situation. I think if Sven's intent is the same as Elliot's - namely, getting it off his chest, but not expecting anything in return - it's really perfectly fine.)

Elliot didn't hurt Padma and Padma wasn't in a relationship with him, therefore the situation is completely different.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 08 Jul 2014, 18:11
Consumer Entertainment Robot Experimental Alpha-Level.  :roll:

Good catch!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jul 2014, 18:13
That's gonna be an expensive reward, given how much cereal Steve eats.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 Jul 2014, 19:08
Did I make that happen?

I wonder which Coffee of Doom employee Faye and Dora will have a threesome with this week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jul 2014, 19:14
The espresso machine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 08 Jul 2014, 19:21
The espresso machine.
I'm sure the espresso machine picked up several VDs after what Pintsize did to it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 08 Jul 2014, 19:36
Today's comic:
Jeph
Trolls
EVERYONE.

 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jul 2014, 19:45
Kinda. I just want some cereal (without a C.E.R.E.A.L.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 08 Jul 2014, 20:06
NilsO trying to showcase his archive-fu here. I wanna say impressive, but, I'm not feeling it.
I think it was impressive.  http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wnod.gif
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 08 Jul 2014, 20:28
Regarding whether protestations of love are manipulative or honest, context is everything.
If I'm in a relationship with somebody where love might have grown as a result, then I can tell that person.
BUT
Nobody just says, "I wanted you to know I love you.  Anyway, back to our discussion about tibetan prayer wheels." 
"I want you to know I love you" is implicitly one of those folded-up notes from 7th grade saying "I love you.  Check a box.  [  ] I love you too, and not as a friend   [   ] I don't love you, or I love you like a friend or somesuch BS"  The subject is forced to respond, either by saying, "REALLY?!? <3  <3  <3 I've loved you too for a while!  I can't believe it!"  or "Uh.  [Insert uncomfortable acknowledgement of weak to nonexistent feelings]"
To say it to somebody you aren't close to and don't spend much time with seems immature to me.  I mean, Sven may BE emotionally stunted.  I dunno.  To pop this without at least acknowledging that he F***ed up but it will never happen again is bad salesmanship or something.  I know if I were Faye, my first question would be "If you love me so much, why did you cheat on me?  Did you love me less then?  How does that work?"
I will say again that Faye's defining characteristic seems to be anger.  This, to me, disqualifies her from GF material.  Concealing your hostility behind jokes is one of the first jackass tactics.  "I was just kidding when I made you feel small"  Relationships are hard enough without having a partner whose toolbox has a lot of big hammers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 08 Jul 2014, 21:35
Haven't you ever just had the need to tell someone something like that? or at least, had friends who had similar impulses? Yeah, confessing you love someone when you pretty much KNOW there is no way the feeling is reciprocated is a pretty immature thing to do. But I've met many highschool and college age people who did things like this. Especially ones who are grapplling with the feeling of unrequited love for the first time.

Sven seems to be immature when it comes to caring about other people and being considerate of them.

I think he is looking for closure, even if he doesn't get what he wants he will at least know.

I actually do think that Sven is more "in love" with Faye than he was when he was with her. He saw what he had with Faye then as a meaningless fling, once he lost her he realized that he valued her as more than that.

I am NOT saying that this justifies him dumping his feelings on Faye, or that Faye and Sven should be together because of his "super spechul feewings"
But I can see where he is coming from and I can sympathize with his confusion and need for closure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 08 Jul 2014, 22:06
(note that there's only one "T" there)
Yes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 08 Jul 2014, 23:13
I should be mad but I can't stop thinking about how much fun it would be to be a tiny robot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 Jul 2014, 23:40
Arguably, Sven didn't cheat on Faye per se, since iirc they never stated they were in an exclusive relationship. In fact, they did not specify their kind of relationship at all, methinks, besides Faye saying "If you sleep with anyone else, I walk".

*walks away while thread explodes behind him*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 08 Jul 2014, 23:52
trolling us so hard
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Jul 2014, 23:55
I thought anthropcs had wireless internet. But of course features may have been left out due to space constraints.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jul 2014, 00:04
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated.
... the hell ?!?



I've never heard of being in love with someone being something limited to reciprocal love.
+1

Love itself isnt selfish ! Love is THE ONE AND ONLY MOTIVE of humans for altruistic acts !



Haven't you ever just had the need to tell someone something like that?
Not to women in a happy relationship, no.

And, as I pointed out earlier, one can point this out in a lot more sensible way.



Arguably, Sven didn't cheat on Faye per se, since iirc they never stated they were in an exclusive relationship. [...]
Err ... please dont restart THAT discussion.



trolling us so hard
Who is getting trolled ? I must have missed the posting thats getting trolled ?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 00:13
Well, introducing Steve and his cereal at this time just makes me mad. I do not want cereal strips. I want to know how the Marten/Emily or Sven/Faye/Angus storylines develop. Next week, I believe there will be guest strips (OK, Jeph deserves a vacation). But the waiting will be intolerable.

We are being trolled. The suspense may kill us. Help!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mordhaus on 09 Jul 2014, 00:16
I had that exact same thing happen after dropping LSD. Only my elf was actually Danny Devito.
Wait, Danny deVito, or Tiny Danny deVito? Because the fullsize one shouldn't fit in a cereal box, hey?
Unless you're into those super-jumbo family packs or something….

You are expecting logic from a LSD trip? Full size, btw, and he talked to me from inside of the cereal box. He was dressed as the character he played in Big Fish and he said my favorite cereal was daffodils. I closed that cereal box and got some Frosted Flakes instead.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 09 Jul 2014, 00:25
Please, this isn't an LSD trip at all. That little C.E.R.E.A.L. is just fucking with Steve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 00:27
Well, introducing Steve and his cereal at this time just makes me mad. I do not want cereal strips. I want to know how the Marten/Emily or Sven/Faye/Angus storylines develop. Next week, I believe there will be guest strips (OK, Jeph deserves a vacation). But the waiting will be intolerable.

We are being trolled. The suspense may kill us. Help!

And after the guest strips he will back to May, and Marten, and Marigold...  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 09 Jul 2014, 00:32
Prediction: Guest strip week will consist entirely of Dave Willis and Butts. (At least, if his guest week on Girls With Slingshots is to be believed)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jul 2014, 00:49
What an amusingly deliberate 'fuck you' to the audience.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 09 Jul 2014, 01:13
You're not in love with someone unless they are in that love with you. Otherwise, you're in love by yourself and just wishing the object of your affection reciprocated.
... the hell ?!?



I've never heard of being in love with someone being something limited to reciprocal love.
+1

Love itself isnt selfish ! Love is THE ONE AND ONLY MOTIVE of humans for altruistic acts !

While that last statement may (or may not) be accurate, you can't possibly argue that people only use the word "love" to describe what is actually love as opposed to using it as a descriptor for far less noble and more selfish feelings. When I hear someone claim they love chocolate, I don't consider the statement to contain anything resembling "altruism."

That said, regarding "I'm in love with ___" vs "I love ___," while I have no official ruling on the topic, I always had the impression that any distinction between the two statements, if any were necessary, would likely be one of distance and knowledge, but not necessarily reciprocation.

You can't be "in love with" Taylor Swift if you don't know her. You can love her, maybe - or at least you might love the idea of her, the concept you've created as representation of who you believe her to be in your head, but there's no relationship between the two of you on which you can base some claim of love; there is nothing there with which you can be "in love." You can only direct love at the idea, if indeed that is what you are feeling.

You could, however, be in love with Taylor Swift's music. That's a tangible, concrete thing with which you can interact, even if it isn't a sentient entity that has the capacity to love you back.

*shrug* Like I said, nothing resembling official definitions there, just how the two phrases work in my head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 01:47
My undertanding of the term love is that there is no need for it to be mutual.

There is
A loves B
B loves A

But there is also
A loves B that loves C that loves D that doesn't loves anyone.

But the sentiment that A feels to B is the same in both cases.

That's why there are so many adjectives that we add to the word love. Because love in itself is too broad.

Mutual love, unrequited love, platonic love, inconditional love...

At least this is my undertanding from the point of view of a non native speaker.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 09 Jul 2014, 01:51
What is love?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 02:10
What is love?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 09 Jul 2014, 02:12
I find today's strip weird, but funny.
Also gives this thread a little break from the by now pretty repetitive discussion about how insensitive Sven is or isn't being.
Of course, I'm still looking forward to the next proper comic. I think there will be two more on Thursday and Friday before the guest comics start, right?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 09 Jul 2014, 02:33
Consumer Entertainment Robot Experimental Alpha-Level.  :roll:
Bother! You beat me to it. C.E.R.E.A.L. must have very long battery life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 09 Jul 2014, 02:34
When I hear someone claim they love chocolate, I don't consider the statement to contain anything resembling "altruism."

I am totally nicking that for a sig quote. Thank you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 02:46
I think there will be two more on Thursday and Friday before the guest comics start, right?
According to Jeph's Twitter, yes:
Quote
beret jeph @jephjacques  ·  Jul 8
Which means next week is guest comics!
 beret jeph @jephjacques  ·  Jul 8
Aw yeah, another comic done. I think that puts me through the end of this week.
Of course, it may just be filler comics (cereals, or (God forbid) more Yelling Bird), but I really hope the Thursday and Friday comics show at least a little progress in the main storylines. I want a Marten/Emily strip on Thursday, and Sven/Faye/Angus (in some combination) on Friday. May/Dale/Marigold can take a longer break. Still, I guess we have to be very patient before any significant progress happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 09 Jul 2014, 02:51
*walks away while thread explodes behind him*
(http://jalapenoberry.com/media/bird-runs-from-explosion-1392745081.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jul 2014, 03:19
We are being trolled. The suspense may kill us. Help!
Oooh ok I get it now.

Thanks for the explanation !
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 04:53
(note that there's only one "T" there)
Yes?
The second t would change "but" to "BUTTS LOL"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 Jul 2014, 05:27
I want a C.E.R.E.A.L. and possibly a bowl of cheerios.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Jul 2014, 05:37
I thought anthropcs had wireless internet. But of course features may have been left out due to space constraints.
Crunchos has an aluminum foil liner bag, to keep the mind control rays out of the cereal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 09 Jul 2014, 07:07
So let's see ... Jeph switched to Steve in the middle of the Claire-Marten cuddling, and switched again in the middle of the Sven-Faye events.


In short, Jeph has become a cereal troller.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Jul 2014, 08:03
Poor Steve - reduced from best friend and advisor to a running serial cereal gag. 


I wonder what Happy Meal toys are like in the QC-verse...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 08:23
In short, Jeph has become a cereal troller.
:facepalm: groan...
Let us hope Steve never becomes a cereal killer :-D

EDIT: On second thoughts, he already is a cereal killer. He eats cereals every day :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 08:49
(note that there's only one "T" there)
Yes?
The second t would change "but" to "BUTTS LOL"
There is no second "T"! I'm the one and only "T"!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 09 Jul 2014, 10:40
It's not exactly on topic, but this discussion is making me think of this gem:
Warning: This spoiler contains a serious 90s pop earworm. You Have Been Warned.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Jul 2014, 10:54
In short, Jeph has become a cereal troller.
:facepalm: groan...
Let us hope Steve never becomes a cereal killer :-D

EDIT: On second thoughts, he already is a cereal killer. He eats cereals every day :-D

Cereal killers should get Life.
(pun may not work outside North America)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 09 Jul 2014, 11:24
Remember a while back when I opined that the QC-verse was the one fictional universe I'd actually like to live in.

If the QC-verse is a universe where little 8" tall androids can fall out of my cereal box and hold a conversation with me, I'm seriously reevaluating that opinion. It makes the QC-verse start to look a little too much like a prolonged psychotic episode for my tastes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Jul 2014, 11:31
It makes the QC-verse start to look a little too much like a prolonged psychotic episode for my tastes.
Hanners feels the same way. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2430)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 09 Jul 2014, 12:21
I am both amused and angered.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 09 Jul 2014, 13:47
He fixed panel 4.

Waiting with anticipation what trollery will ensue for today's (tomorrow's?(Tonight's?)) comic
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jul 2014, 13:52
Oh, for fuck's sake, Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 09 Jul 2014, 13:59
It makes the QC-verse start to look a little too much like a prolonged psychotic episode for my tastes.
Hanners feels the same way. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2430)

Heh, I always thought Gary the arachnoPC was kinda cute. But I can also see how someone with even mild arachnophobia could be totally freaked out at the sight of him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 09 Jul 2014, 14:09
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/10/syju4e4e.png)


What the hell, Sven, what even is this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 Jul 2014, 14:13
At least he didn't seem to plan on suggesting it himself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 14:15
 :facepalm: No, Sven. NO!
Fortunately, Faye seems to handle this quite well. She knows Sven well enough to know his hopeless, selfish ways.

On the other hand, this may start Faye thinking "what if" thoughts. Sven was probably better in bed than Angus (duh, he has a lot more experience). Faye may still think of Sven when she is horny (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1377). She is possibly mentally unfaithful to Angus already.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Jul 2014, 14:19
Dora is going to kill him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 09 Jul 2014, 14:21
I don't know if she will need to. The crushing desolation when this fails will probably be enough to finish him off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 09 Jul 2014, 14:26
Sven. Wat r u doin. Sven. STAHP!

Yeah, this isn't going to end well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 Jul 2014, 14:37
I just noticed, this comic isn't numbered. Maybe it's not real.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 14:44
The URL says it is comic #2744.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 09 Jul 2014, 14:46
Ye gawds, Sven.

Well, at least it seems like getting shot-down will kick him hard in his complacency.  He still pretty much expects to get whatever he wants in life without even trying.  May be good for him.  Or, if the Fangus tension gets too high, this could take a very bad turn for all three.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 Jul 2014, 14:49
Fangus tension

Is that some sort of growth?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 09 Jul 2014, 14:53
Well, I wouldn't call what I think worst case scenario is would really "help" anyone.  In fact, it may fuck them all up more, at least in the short-medium term.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Jul 2014, 15:04
You know of course what's going to happen: She's going to agree to hug him or something, and that's exactly when Angus is going to show up and say, "Hey I forgot to ask where you wanted to goooooOHMIGOD!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 15:08
Angus is NOT Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 15:12
Flashback to a similar event (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1741).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 15:17
Haha what did I just say? :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 09 Jul 2014, 15:19
I believe you said "Angus is NOT Dora".

/me checks

Yup, you did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Jul 2014, 15:23
Maybe it's because I met the Divine Ms. C. Monday night at her Slingshot Tour stop in A2Mich, but the current (interrupted) arc made me think this link (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1452) is appropriate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kagenoyuushi on 09 Jul 2014, 16:09
I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 09 Jul 2014, 16:20
I was thinking more 'hasn't matured since middle school' myself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 09 Jul 2014, 16:32
I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?
Agreed. He might be going about it all wrong, but it says he's growing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 09 Jul 2014, 16:32
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 16:38
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
There is only one way to know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 Jul 2014, 17:37
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
There is only one way to know.

Ask Faye out?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Jul 2014, 17:50
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
There is only one way to know.

Ask Faye out?
Since the availability of Faye's might be a problem just ask out the angriest woman you can find.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 09 Jul 2014, 18:03
But it'd also have to be a woman with whom I already had a brief relationship. That's the bigger problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 Jul 2014, 18:18
But it'd also have to be a woman with whom I already had a brief relationship. That's the bigger problem.

Well, go have a brief relationship with a woman. In a couple months, test this out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 09 Jul 2014, 18:22
Well, go have a brief relationship with a woman. In a couple months, test this out.
This is, I hope you realise, a little bit more difficult than that. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Jul 2014, 18:38
You can't be "in love with" Taylor Swift if you don't know her. You can love her, maybe - or at least you might love the idea of her, the concept you've created as representation of who you believe her to be in your head, but there's no relationship between the two of you on which you can base some claim of love; there is nothing there with which you can be "in love." You can only direct love at the idea, if indeed that is what you are feeling.

You could, however, be in love with Taylor Swift's music. That's a tangible, concrete thing with which you can interact, even if it isn't a sentient entity that has the capacity to love you back.

*shrug* Like I said, nothing resembling official definitions there, just how the two phrases work in my head.

That is the exact opposite of how those two phrases work in mine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 09 Jul 2014, 18:42
.... so that shoots my theory out the window.

Sven, what the hell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 09 Jul 2014, 19:19
"But then I realized, shit, I might be in love with Faye!"

I'm not the type to tell people that they "don't know what real love is" and preach about the concept and theory of it and why they're stupid for thinking they're in love.  However, based on that line alone, Sven sounds like he hasn't really contemplated what love is to him.  He's convinced that having somebody on your mind endlessly means you're in love with them, or so he says.  But what if he's just infatuated?  What if he's guilty of over-idealizing her simply because she seems to be the first woman who has ever seriously "rejected" him?  Many guys have the problem of taking rejection personally (I'm no exemption to that).

Of course it's also possible he's really fucking bad at articulating what he means to say.  So far that seems the most possible thing, but who knows.

On another note, and I'm not sure if Jeph intended this or not but there seems to have been a brief trade of lives between Marten and Sven.  We still don't know the details of Marten's last interaction with Emily, but for now it seems that Marten is getting lady kisses for his displays of manhood, and Sven is being the "awkward" one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 19:24
I don't think what Faye said even occurred to Sven as a potential outcome until Faye said it, even if it was dripping with sarcasm that he missed/chose to ignore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sluthy on 09 Jul 2014, 19:40
If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 19:43
Was that her name?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 09 Jul 2014, 20:02
Renee

http://questionablecontent.net/1859
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 20:05
Well they had four out of five letters right, but that explains why it didn't sound familiar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 09 Jul 2014, 20:09
Faye tells Sven to piss up a rope, Angus will get the job, he and Faye will hang on for a while, Angus gets offered a big show deal, Angus breaks it off with Faye because long distance sucks (and he's getting groupies nightly), Angus hires a hurting Sven to be the bandleader on his show, They become best buds and Faye hires an assassin to take them both out. (Plot twist - assassin is Evil Hanners)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Jul 2014, 20:30
Okay, now that's so weird that not even Jeph would consider it.

Besides, everyone knows it would be Veronica who'd be the hit-woman. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Jul 2014, 20:33
Plot twist twist -- there never was an "evil Hanners." Just Hanners. Juseeeeyyyyyyyaaaaaaaagggghhhh ....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jul 2014, 20:39
I think "evil Hanners" is the hypothetical Aussie clone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 Jul 2014, 20:56
This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mary tyler murder on 09 Jul 2014, 21:04
Well she sure isn't after you dweebed it all up, Sven
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Jul 2014, 22:54
He's way too wrapped up in his own emotions to consider her position for even a moment. That's never going to end well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 09 Jul 2014, 23:15
"But then I realized, shit, I might be in love with Faye!"

I'm not the type to tell people that they "don't know what real love is" and preach about the concept and theory of it and why they're stupid for thinking they're in love.  However, based on that line alone, Sven sounds like he hasn't really contemplated what love is to him.  He's convinced that having somebody on your mind endlessly means you're in love with them, or so he says.  But what if he's just infatuated?  What if he's guilty of over-idealizing her simply because she seems to be the first woman who has ever seriously "rejected" him?  Many guys have the problem of taking rejection personally (I'm no exemption to that).

Of course it's also possible he's really fucking bad at articulating what he means to say.  So far that seems the most possible thing, but who knows.

Can it be both?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 09 Jul 2014, 23:20

Maybe it's because I met the Divine Ms. C. Monday night at her Slingshot Tour stop in A2Mich, but the current (interrupted) arc made me think this link (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1452) is appropriate.

Not to mention that that sentiment coming from Faye is canon (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1377). Given her current state of mental affairs (frowney face from Friday) I think it's unlikely that Faye will be able to hold out forever, and I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Note: I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. If desire for Sven is lingering better for all (including Angus) to let it work itself out as soon as possible.

Or Jeph's double super secret trolling us.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Jul 2014, 23:36
I actually love Sven's hopefulness (and almost naivete) in the last panel.  It's kind of... endearing?  Is that the word I'm looking for?
It certainly illustrates what may happen if you have always got what you wanted. You become a complete douchebag, unable to handle situations that are not going your way. You do not understand social protocols. You do not understand what other people feel. You become a complete egoist. All is about you. This is the Evil Dictator (http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/12/22/kimjongun_vert-17656b658f19f87081f7480c13e6decc827decdc-s6-c30.jpg) syndrome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jul 2014, 01:15
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
I have a very hard time picturing ANYONE in the real world being as dumb as Sven in todays comic.

Heck, even most seven year olds are way smarter than that.


Okay, now that's so weird that not even Jeph would consider it.
Now you jinxed it into happening.

Na, just joking.


It certainly illustrates what may happen if you have always got what you wanted. You become a complete douchebag, unable to handle situations that are not going your way. You do not understand social protocols. You do not understand what other people feel. You become a complete egoist. All is about you. This is the Evil Dictator syndrome.
Whow, very interesting thought ! I dont really get the point of linking a picture to an actual dictator, though. Did you want to tell us that North Korea is evil ? I doubt anyone here doesnt know that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: XSin on 10 Jul 2014, 01:16
Would someone be able to take a guess at how long it's been since they saw each other in both real time and comic time? It really does feel like forever since we saw Sven which makes this more ridiculous than I'm thinking was intended
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Jul 2014, 01:18
Sven has always been a bit of a bellend, but in these comics he's kind of showing character flaws.
a) Being in love with someone who is in a relationship and telling them both to get it off your chest and because they probably should know that; probably okay most of the time.
b) Going about it this way, reacting like this when she sarcastically talks about jumping into your arms, basically being an all-around douchenozzle is a big fat slice of 'nope.'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Jul 2014, 01:38
I dont really get the point of linking a picture to an actual dictator, though.
Would you prefer goatse (http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/goatse-farms-20110524-155815.jpg) instead? (WARNING: Do NOT click that link! Do NOT click that link!)
You have been warned.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 02:09
This brings us to a recent Devil's Panties strip.
(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140707.png)

I'm torn.

On the one hand, I should be supporting sexual deviants into petplay and this sorta thing.

On the other hand......there is a time and a place for some things. Or the girl is in an abusive/nonconsent relationship of sorts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 10 Jul 2014, 02:47
And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Jul 2014, 03:06
This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Jul 2014, 03:09
And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.
Remember, Sven writes country music lyrics for a living (Link1 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=330) and Link2 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1424)). You cannot get further from Real Life® than that.
Quote
I can't stop loving you I've made up my mind
To live in memories of old lonesome times
I can't stop wanting you it's useless to say
So I'll just live my life in dreams of yesterday

Those happy hours that we once knew though long ago still make me blue
They say that time heels a broken heart
But time has stood still since we've been apart
I can't stop loving you...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 10 Jul 2014, 03:24
As long as he doesn't go into Every Breath You Take level of creepy...

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.

Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.
Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 10 Jul 2014, 03:52
And Sven has obviously spent the intervening time watching crappy romantic movies... No, mate, it doesn't work like that in Real Live®.
Remember, Sven writes country music lyrics for a living (Link1 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=330) and Link2 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1424)). You cannot get further from Real Life® than that.
Quote
I can't stop loving you I've made up my mind
To live in memories of old lonesome times
I can't stop wanting you it's useless to say
So I'll just live my life in dreams of yesterday

Those happy hours that we once knew though long ago still make me blue
They say that time heels a broken heart
But time has stood still since we've been apart
I can't stop loving you...

Al makes sense now. Country music damaged his brain.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Jul 2014, 04:19
More insight into Sven's character (according to Dora): Link1 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=690) and Link2 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1107)
Quote
There's a tear in my beer 'cause I'm crying for you dear
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 10 Jul 2014, 04:41
I am totally nicking that for a sig quote. Thank you.

Aww, but I don't get quote attribution in the sig? Sad day. v.v

*shrug* Like I said, nothing resembling official definitions there, just how the two phrases work in my head.

That is the exact opposite of how those two phrases work in mine.

Clearly we were destined for this encounter.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 05:07
This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.
Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian.
Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub.

Funny enough, I think these are all plotlines in Hentai Doujins I see on the internet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 10 Jul 2014, 06:22
Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 10 Jul 2014, 08:23
I mean, I'm inexperienced, but even I'd be better at this than Sven…  :psyduck:
I have a very hard time picturing ANYONE in the real world being as dumb as Sven in todays comic.

Eh, I met one once.  The situation was almost identical, actually.

We were both fifteen, though, so that probably speaks volumes to where Sven actually falls right now, maturity-wise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 10 Jul 2014, 08:37
If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 10 Jul 2014, 09:52
If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.
Yes, especially following today/yesterday's comic. Before the love mention it made a little more sense, but as I outlined before, there's reason for him and/or Faye to have (possibly mutual) affection at the other. They talked and stuff, which was important for Faye and probably unusual for Sven.

Of course, it would be interesting if he got with Renee or Gabby (did Gabby have that body type? I feel like she did. but she evaporated anyway), because we totally need more characters going on. And it might mean more Elliot or more intern exposition.

I'm torn.

On the one hand, I should be supporting sexual deviants into petplay and this sorta thing.

On the other hand......there is a time and a place for some things. Or the girl is in an abusive/nonconsent relationship of sorts.

To me it looks like rather skimpy cosplayer (Ash and Pikachu, supported by the gameboy). I see cosplayers who get 'lost' along the way around convention time, so it's not too surprising.

That said, I still sort of agree. If it is a petplay thing, it doesn't belong in the eyes of random people who aren't part of their dynamic.

Of course, on the other hand, I don't think people's clothes should be policed, and if it's cosplay, that's even sillier.

So I guess it really really depends: are they pet players engaging in some sort of public humiliation, or is it just what they're wearing?

(I'm not sure why it would seem nonconsensual, so I won't comment on that unless you come back to this particular offtopic and tell me)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jul 2014, 10:01
If Sven's after a curvy, bristly chick with glasses, maybe they can hook him up with Irene, the pseudo-Faye from the bakery? You know, make that friendcestual Jim/Dora/Marten web even more tangled?

Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.

It certainly is. I took it as a negative comment about Sven having demeaning ideas. After all, look how he remembers Faye after the breakup. He doesn't say "She was the first chick [sic] I could actually talk to". He talks about her curviness, in terms less delicate than "curviness".

It's possible that he'd drop Faye to pursue someone else of the same figure. I hope she runs away, of course.

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 10 Jul 2014, 10:16
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/10/syju4e4e.png)
What the hell, Sven, what even is this.
Faye: Oh my god are you an idiot?
Sven: [ponders for a moment] Yes. Yes I am. Any suggestions ...... [weighted pause as he notes Faye's expression] ...... that don't involve me ending up in the hospital?

Please remember that he has no idea what just happened just moments ago.

Warning - while you were reading the sun has entered the red giant phase of it's life cycle . You may wish to move to another solar system.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 10 Jul 2014, 11:39
Could we stop implying that Sven (or indeed anyone) would be just as happy switching from someone they love to someone else who looks a bit like them? Someone earlier claimed that Sven was just looking for someone with large breasts. It's a bit demeaning to imply that women with similar physical characteristics are interchangable.
I know I commented, but that was on the comic more than the point so: also rather demeaning to everyone who dates women.

It certainly is. I took it as a negative comment about Sven having demeaning ideas. After all, look how he remembers Faye after the breakup. He doesn't say "She was the first chick [sic] I could actually talk to". He talks about her curviness, in terms less delicate than "curviness".
To be fair, everyone does. I mean, Sven was talking about missing her sexually when he spoke to Hanners, that was pretty clear, but everyone describes her as 'curvy and grumpy.' Dora in particular, actually, so maybe the Bianchi's are just very visual describers. I don't think that would be intentional on Jeph's part if it's true, though.

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.
For already reasons, I think so.  I mean, there is plenty of reason for Sven to have never had feelings that needed wondering about before and only know one way to put them out, but on top of that, I think it would be hard, at least at first, to admit he misses Faye. I mean, his persona isn't an asshole (whether or not he is an asshole, it's not how he presents himself), it's a charming guy. He doesn't want to be the guy who doesn't care about the girls he bangs. But he still never has, and Faye is someone he already has gotten in trouble for being with, so I think admitting it even to himself would be a hard step, and especially if he's fairly resigned to her dating Angus. It's a lot easier to say 'yeah I miss her curves and stuff, that's it, I'll date another curvy girl!' than 'I actually like someone for the first time in forever??? and but she's dating someone else, so I don't get a chance.'

I'm on the Sven has character side. I don't know if he has less-than-noble intentions for confessing, or if he even deserves a chance with Faye, but I really don't want him to be the flat, just-fucks-girls-otherwise-nothing character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 10 Jul 2014, 12:16
This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.
Oh, thats not painful at all.  Thats grounds for popping a big bucket of popcorn to watch the show.  See also: girl/guy whose new partner cheated with them before breaking off their last relationship, and now the realization dawns, this new partner doesn't really grasp fidelity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Jul 2014, 12:39
So if Claireface is: "I just made a pun tell me how funny it is"

Svenface would be: "I just naively asked for something I felt I was entitled to and think I may have gotten it" (?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Jul 2014, 14:02

I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Doh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 10 Jul 2014, 14:09
New comic.








Sven what did you even mean by that comment about honesty aaargh


Also he looks hurt and confused in that last panel. I just want to take him in the arm and hug him (sue me).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 10 Jul 2014, 14:15
Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, albeit a more sophisticated variant. He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do. Sorry, Sven. It doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Jul 2014, 14:22

I'd go even odds on her succumbing to her latent desire for Sven while Angus is out of town.

Doh.

Evidently I missed this the first time but the question still needs to be asked: what latent desire? She never could really tolerate his personality in large doses and she's mostly over her intimacy issues and Sven's a whole new set of trust issues on a stick, so all that's left from their previous relationship is lust and she isn't driven by that. Certainly not to the point where her boyfriend being away got seventy-two hours or less (has he even gone to this audition yet?) would drive her to reject her principles. What do you think this is, Friends?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: miados on 10 Jul 2014, 14:30
if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 10 Jul 2014, 14:31
... I MEAN WHAT DID YOU EVEN EXPECT, SVEN.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Jul 2014, 14:33
We have a full week to think about it - guest strips next week, per Frere Jacques.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Jul 2014, 14:35
Oh Sven, so much you have to learn!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 14:49
Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics :)

I thought those standalone pics in Sunstone (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sunstone) were just fantasy and not realistically possible?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Jul 2014, 14:51
Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics :)

VGCats hasn't been updated in how long again?

What does VGCats have to do with those plot lines?
Or great webcomics, for that matter?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 10 Jul 2014, 14:52
Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, albeit a more sophisticated variant. He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do. Sorry, Sven. It doesn't work that way.
Yeah, ew.

if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.
I'm hoping the last two panels means he won't. Hoping.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Jul 2014, 15:01
what latent desire? ... What do you think this is, Friends?

No, this (http://questionablecontent.net//view.php?comic=1079) is (http://questionablecontent.net//view.php?comic=1083) Questionable (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1198) Content (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1377)

I'm happy to be wrong about this, but it's what I think is coming.

(BTW, It's hard to show proof that there's latent desire while it's still latent)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 10 Jul 2014, 15:13
And now Svens journey to the dark side will begin.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 10 Jul 2014, 15:29

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

I think there's something to this. He's used to more of a "hit it and quit it" mentality, and probably wasn't prepared for an expected fling to turn into (for him) something he hadn't bargained for. When you're on unfamiliar ground -- as Sven is -- and you've got a pretty limited toolkit in terms of emotional intelligence and the vocabulary to describe what's going on, as Sven seems to have, then you tend to try to do the best you can with what you've got. Unfortunately, what Sven's got amounts to using a hammer to open a jar of pickles, and I doubt Faye has either the inclination or the patience to steer him on the right path... and that's assuming she's even worked through unpacking enough of her own baggage to be in a position to help Sven with his.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 10 Jul 2014, 15:31

Unless ... any chance he actually had an intellectual and emotional relationship with Faye and doesn't know how to recognize or describe it? Is he just translating an unfamiliar sensation into the language of his all-too-extended adolescence? I hesitate to give Sven that much credit but it's the sort of characterization Jeph would do.

I think there's something to this. He's used to more of a "hit it and quit it" mentality, and probably wasn't prepared for an expected fling to turn into (for him) something he hadn't bargained for. When you're on unfamiliar ground -- as Sven is -- and you've got a pretty limited toolkit in terms of emotional intelligence and the vocabulary to describe what's going on, as Sven seems to have, then you tend to try to do the best you can with what you've got. Unfortunately, what Sven's got amounts to using a hammer to open a jar of pickles, and I doubt Faye has either the inclination or the patience to steer him on the right path... and that's assuming she's even worked through unpacking enough of her own baggage to help Sven with his.
Not going to bother digging through the archives to find it right now (this comic needs a search function or tags like DoA...), but Faye's attitude toward fixing Sven involves a pair of hedge clippers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jul 2014, 15:45
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1497

Memorable dialog like that often ends up in a character's page on the wiki.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 10 Jul 2014, 16:36
Not going to bother digging through the archives to find it right now (this comic needs a search function or tags like DoA...), but Faye's attitude toward fixing Sven involves a pair of hedge clippers.
Might be the best way about it.  Then again, "fixing" Sven isn't her problem unless she wants it to be (and even then, it'd only be to a limited extent), and she has made it patently clear that she *doesn't*.    Ultimately he needs to grab those hedge clippers himself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 10 Jul 2014, 17:05
Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics :)

I thought those standalone pics in Sunstone (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Webcomic/Sunstone) were just fantasy and not realistically possible?

Sunstone is a comic, just not a web comic. He posts the pages to his deviantart site, and eventually they will get gathered into a book. But that's not the characters I was talking about. These are the comics I was referring to (addition of the comic's name by me)

This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend. - Dumbing of Age
Or a violently phallophobic Japanese girl having a sex contest with a guy, against someone who is Not A Lesbian. - Menage a 3
Or a dangerously clueless dominatrix-wannabe dreaming of making her boss her personal sub. - Sandra on the Rocks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 10 Jul 2014, 17:13
Quote
Faye: I have a boyfriend

*borthrelm?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 10 Jul 2014, 17:14
You know, though...that really did go much better than expected. No blood, no police, no apparent tears, no projectiles...I'd call that a successful adult conversation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 10 Jul 2014, 17:39
Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

Also, in regards to Jeph's caption for today's comic

Quote
My annual guest week starts Monday! WOO

This was my reaction:

(http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Jazzmaster1992/LELELEL/untitled.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 18:38
Or characters from other web comics... Great webcomics :)

VGCats hasn't been updated in how long again?

What does VGCats have to do with those plot lines?
Or great webcomics, for that matter?

*looks at my post*
*looks at yours*

Huh? I wrote that at first, but deleted it, added what I have now and pressed Save. The fuck...?

Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.   

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jul 2014, 18:43
Oh, Sven. 

I think the posters who mentioned country's influence on Sven's emotional development had it pinned. 

And my daughter played this for me today - it seemed oddly appropriate.  Sometimes, formulaic works.  But dependence oon a formula never turns out well!   

Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 10 Jul 2014, 19:22
Somehow I don't think Sven's done with Faye. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. Plus he may not be able to just stay away from Faye, not being able to deal with his "feelings" for her, whatever they may be. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 19:26
Somehow I don't think Sven's done with Faye. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...

......on the arms of past QC character we've forgotten for a time now as a wham moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 10 Jul 2014, 19:26
I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.

Yeah, that's pretty likely.  I really am anxious to see what happens with "Fangus" going forward, in any event.

Somehow I don't think Sven's done with this. He should just take the rejection and go back to meaningless sex with random blondes, but in that case we'll probably never see him again, except maybe in passing with some blonde on his arm. So yeah, I don't think he's going to just accept this and go away.

Like the Terminator, Sven will be back...

I don't think so either.  I don't think Sven knows how to handle rejection because he's never really dealt with it before.  When you're so used to getting what you want, it can be hard to accept not having what you want.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jul 2014, 19:45
Which excellently explains those last two panels! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 10 Jul 2014, 19:56


Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".

Then again, this is Faye we're talking about here.

I think in a way, she's just pissed right now that Angus might "leave her" for the acting job. It's a scary thing for her I guess; she doesn't really want to see people "leave," regardless of the circumstances. What she said to Sven I think is just her way to end that line of conversation quickly and go away. She has enough on her plate already, she doesn't need Sven's issues on her mind already clouding the waters.

Maybe I'm not reading enough into this, but I'm not sure where the impression's coming from that Faye's unhappy with Angus. With him leaving? Yes, definitely; she's said as much. But she seems to be happy with him and with the relationship, as opposed to CoD, where she's simply treading water.

If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682)) that he bails.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jul 2014, 20:11
I don't see him bailing.  He's too stubborn, and she was too hard-won for him to bail without a total fuckup on someone's part. 


Like Faye cheating on him with Sven, for instance. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 10 Jul 2014, 21:07
If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682)) that he bails.

When you say "pulling a Marten", I'm assuming you're talking about Marten getting tired of Dora's issues (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1800), right?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jul 2014, 21:17
Marten was sick of her issues, but she's still the one who ended things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jul 2014, 21:19
If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682)) that he bails.

With the sex he......nevermind, bad point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 10 Jul 2014, 21:21
If anything, I think there's more of a possibility of Angus pulling a Marten and getting sufficiently sick of Faye's issues (specifically, her drinking http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682)) that he bails.

When you say "pulling a Marten", I'm assuming you're talking about Marten getting tired of Dora's issues (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1800), right?

That was the strip I was thinking of. But as Method of Madness pointed out, I'd forgotten Dora ended it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 10 Jul 2014, 21:43
Okay.

So first off, the title of the comic is right, especially panel two.

So Sven's gonna sing his hurt out.

Because Jephzibah enjoys kicking around his characters, though Sven will feel these are some of his most heartfelt, true songs, they will utterly fail to chart.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackjoker on 10 Jul 2014, 21:51
I feel a certain degree of sympathy for Sven, but yeah, just 'being honest' and expecting to get what you want is very much the whole dudebro niceguy thing that bugs the CRAP out of me. On a related note, to the earlier comment about how Faye put it, she is focused on shutting Sven down quickly, and for good reason. If there is any lingering attraction for him, that is not a good thing to allow him to possibly utilize when she is frustrated/worried about things with Angus. Sven might not even do it consciously, (see earlier stuff about him not wanting to break up a relationship) but Faye is also showing some self knowledge to not try to let any trust issues she has get any external validation. I hope that this ends better than I fear it will.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Jul 2014, 23:24
I was longing for you
around the clock
I'm in love with you
and I wanted to talk

But she said:

Yeah, and that's great,
but it ain't gonna get you the girl
I gotta get back to work
I suggest you fuck off.

I was longing for you
tried a smarm attack
I'm in love with you
but I won't get you back
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Jul 2014, 00:04
I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: gopher on 11 Jul 2014, 00:20
Is there a song called "entitled douche"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 11 Jul 2014, 00:25
I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.
On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Faye has progressed. No hitting Sven, and otherwise handling the situation quite well. Finally, she is also able to say the word "boyfriend". She had some problems with this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1943) earlier.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 11 Jul 2014, 00:28
Is there a song called "entitled douche"?
Basically anything by this douche:
(http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=cbWgS2Nq6vNZZM&tbnid=TYxL8t947uc24M:&ved=0CAUQjBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.muchmusic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F03%2FRobinThickeSad.jpg&ei=05G_U-qjM4LfkAW52YCoDw&psig=AFQjCNFYpBeZmTtSA-V6CVOSswp7K4YnSg&ust=1405150035923282)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 11 Jul 2014, 00:31
Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, [...]
:?

What the ... what ?!?



He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do.
Well OK "nice guy" isnt exactly a clearly defined term in the first place, but still I dont see how "being honest about your feelings" fits into any definitions I'm aware of.

Nice guys are typically thought of as people of low self esteem, overly sensitive/feminine, they end up too easily in the friend zone of girls they fancy, they are respectful towards women (at least they think so) while the girls they fancy end up with douchebags, etc.

If theres anything Sven doesnt lack is confidence. And he isnt very sensitive at all, either.



if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him.
I would bet Faye would get really angry at that point. I think Sven knows that too.



And now Svens journey to the dark side will begin.
OMG he actually joins a side now ? I dont think so.



Something about Faye's rejection isn't convincing.  I'm probably just reading into it, but it's really because she said "I have a boyfriend!" instead of "I'm too happy with Angus to leave him for anybody".
Why, yes !

I think you indeed definitely do read too much into it.

Faye's version got to the point much quicker then your unnecessarily much more longwinded one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: dilbert719 on 11 Jul 2014, 01:02
if he follows faye inside I will be dissapointed in him. if he lets it be I think it will show he has at least grown a bit.

There is one reasonable justification for him to follow her inside, and that is to ask Dora to step outside with him for a second, and say something to the effect of "I clearly just put my foot in something, and I don't know what. I'm not really in my element here. What did I just do?"

I don't expect him to pull that off, but that would be a reasonable option for him to go into CoD at this time. Otherwise, Sven, go away and get your head right before you do something further down the slope into utter idiocy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 11 Jul 2014, 01:21
I think the Sven thread is finished - for now. Today's strip was a natural ending. It might be years before we see him again, which is probably a Good Thing.

Next week will be guest strips, which are not canon. I hope there will be some talented contributions.

Main threads that need to be resolved when Jeph is back:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Jul 2014, 02:26
Is there a song called "entitled douche"?
A great many that should be sub-titled that, certainly.

"I clearly just put my foot in something, and I don't know what. I'm not really in my element here. What did I just do?"
Seriously? Could even Sven be so far lost in clueless self-absorption?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Jul 2014, 02:37
Well OK "nice guy" isnt exactly a clearly defined term in the first place, but still I dont see how "being honest about your feelings" fits into any definitions I'm aware of.

Nice guys are typically thought of as people of low self esteem, overly sensitive/feminine, they end up too easily in the friend zone of girls they fancy, they are respectful towards women (at least they think so) while the girls they fancy end up with douchebags, etc.

If theres anything Sven doesnt lack is confidence. And he isnt very sensitive at all, either.

However, the core of Nice Guyism is that doing nice actions entitles them to a relationship or sex. And, he's stressing that he's being honest with Faye, as if that's supposed to mean something to her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Jul 2014, 02:59
I wouldn't call his present state "Nice Guy", though; he simply doesn't get it.  He's in danger of falling that way, though, if he tries using his declaration of love as a cynical ploy - but for now I see him as genuine but lacking understanding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Jul 2014, 04:05
I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.
On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Yes, precisely the point. I don't think she will be buying it for her next album.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 11 Jul 2014, 04:12
Why, yes !

I think you indeed definitely do read too much into it.

Faye's version got to the point much quicker then your unnecessarily much more longwinded one.

She doesn't have to use "my" long winded response ad-verbatim.  Hell, even a simple "I'm with Angus you dumbass!" sounds 'stronger' because it reminds Sven that "hey, I'm with somebody, you already know who he is and you should know how much I care about him".

I know that I'm just being picky, though.  I know that Faye is very stressed with Angus' possible move and can't be assed to tread on words right now, when the objective is "make Sven go away".

And...even if she had worded it differently, I'm not sure it would have made a difference with Sven anyhow.  Because truthfully, I'm not sure how convinced he is, and if he isn't convinced, he needs to come to the realization that him and Faye aren't happening on his own.


Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 11 Jul 2014, 04:25
I don't think Taylor Swift will be buying that one for her next album.
On the contrary. This is way better than her usual stuff.

Yes, precisely the point. I don't think she will be buying it for her next album.
:roll: Damn. I was looking forward to royalties from her next megahit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: PHDrillSergeant on 11 Jul 2014, 05:57
It's been so long since we've seen Sven, I got mixed up and thought he was FAYE'S brother and this week I've been increasingly going "WHAAAAAAT".

Today I looked at the cast page because...you know...this can't be right.

Never have I been happier to be wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Jul 2014, 06:00
Faye is a Bad Brotherfucker (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1202), but she objects to that sort of brotherfuckery.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 11 Jul 2014, 07:07
Woah Sven... Never go full retard. I've never seen anyone in real life being this kind of stupid. Is this a thing? I'm scared
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FayeDouble on 11 Jul 2014, 07:20
I really hope this isn't the last we see of Sven, I really like him as a character. Faye's being strong now but we know she has a strong attraction to him so here's hoping she won't blow it, and stay strong. There are a bunch of possibilities on what could happen with Faye, Angus, and Sven...I wonder if Faye will tell Angus what Sven said?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 11 Jul 2014, 08:25
Please don't use the word retard to mean someone who's just being an idiot - it has a medical meaning which isn't relevant here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 11 Jul 2014, 09:02
I was thinking... What if Angus is cool with threesomes? Wouldn't this solve the problems for all?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Jul 2014, 09:44
No. No, it would not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jul 2014, 09:59
Faye apparently isn't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Jul 2014, 10:05
"Threesomes are like communism. Good idea in theory, bad idea in practice." (I may have misremembered that quote.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Oglokoog on 11 Jul 2014, 10:14
What did he THINK would happen?

"Threesomes are like communism. Good idea in theory, bad idea in practice." (I may have misremembered that quote.)

At least threesomes are good in theory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 11 Jul 2014, 10:19
"Threesomes are like communism. Good idea in theory, bad idea in practice." (I may have misremembered that quote.)
Threesomes, like any relationship, work fine as long as all participants are rational adults. Therein, of course, lies the fatal flaw.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 11 Jul 2014, 11:00
Sven is inadvertently stumbling into "nice guy" territory, [...]
:?

What the ... what ?!?

He genuinely seems to believe that being honest about your feelings will make things work out how you want them to do.
Well OK "nice guy" isnt exactly a clearly defined term in the first place, but still I dont see how "being honest about your feelings" fits into any definitions I'm aware of.

Nice guys are typically thought of as people of low self esteem, overly sensitive/feminine, they end up too easily in the friend zone of girls they fancy, they are respectful towards women (at least they think so) while the girls they fancy end up with douchebags, etc.

If theres anything Sven doesnt lack is confidence. And he isnt very sensitive at all, either.

I think you're thinking of a slightly different thing than we are. The definition I (and I assume Barmy) was using is:

A 'Nice Guy' is a guy who thinks that just because he is nice, he is entitled to the women he is nice to (see also friendzone*). The sort of guy who says 'hey, you passed out drunk, and I didn't even take advantage of you! obviously I'm better than that guy you're dating that you complained about once! you won't date me? well fuck you I hope you get raped!' (though not a direct quote, a friend just related this story).

Someone that thinks that fulfilling the very basics of being a non-criminal, okay person means that they are NICE and deserve a woman. Generally they are not actually nice, and only fulfilled those basic human decencies because they thought it would get them laid.

Sven obviously isn't to this extreme, but implying 'I was honest, so you have to date me!' is pretty close skirting.

*some people genuinely use friendzone to say that they will only be friends with a person, never romantic, but in the context of nice guys or the internet, 'friendzone' is used to imply that friendship is only a means to an end (fucking) rather than an end in itself, and that it's a penalty, rather than good to have a friend.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: dilbert719 on 11 Jul 2014, 11:10
"I clearly just put my foot in something, and I don't know what. I'm not really in my element here. What did I just do?"
Seriously? Could even Sven be so far lost in clueless self-absorption?

He certainly appears to be, if reacting to "Oh my God you're an idiot" with "Is that a no?" is any indication. He hasn't expressed an inkling of a clue that Faye was in a rough emotional state, he told her that his confession of love to someone who was already taken was "not a big deal," and all of this came after Faye explicitly told him not to hit her with anything big. That's about as clueless and self-absorbed as anyone I've seen in this comic for a while.

Honestly, I think it'd show more awareness to realize there's even a question to ask here; the alternative, just walking away, could very easily result in him just stewing and not getting any clarity. It'd be more impressive if he did ask.

We'll see, though. Probably in two weeks' time, unless the guest week is followed by "The Saga of Spathe Ham".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 11 Jul 2014, 11:35
On the other hand, how would you likeit if someone told you he had something to say to you. You tell him that this is not a good time for something big, and he says. "OK. See you later."?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Jul 2014, 11:37
Isn't that how they should respond?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 11 Jul 2014, 11:56
Yeah I'd say so. If someone says "hey, we need to talk" and the other person says anything that indicates that now isn't a good time, then the correct response (unless what you need to talk about is an immediate threat to someone's life or something) is "ok, well let me know when you're able to talk about this" and then you leave.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 11 Jul 2014, 12:21
On the other hand, how would you likeit if someone told you he had something to say to you. You tell him that this is not a good time for something big, and he says. "OK. See you later."?
Wouldn't this sounds like it isn't important them? If Swen did that it would sound like what he wants to tell her is not much important to him making the love confession sounds even cheaper.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 11 Jul 2014, 12:30
On the other hand, how would you likeit if someone told you he had something to say to you. You tell him that this is not a good time for something big, and he says. "OK. See you later."?
Wouldn't this sounds like it isn't important them? If Swen did that it would sound like what he wants to tell her is not much important to him making the love confession sounds even cheaper.

Important != urgent. A topic can be very important, but if it's not time-sensitive you don't necessarily have to talk about it as soon as possible. In fact, if it's really that important a subject to discuss, you really should wait for a time to talk about it when everyone involved will be able to think clearly and absorb what you're saying.

Being in a rush to talk about it suggests it isn't really that important in and of itself, that what you really value is telling someone about it, which isn't the same thing. It makes it less about the topic and more about you.


Regarding Sven and "nice guys:" given Sven's stated philosophy toward relationships and how he interacts with women, I don't think he feels deserving of/entitled to anything from Faye. It seems, to me, more likely that he's just not sure of what to do to win her over since his usual bag of tricks, which were pretty much all he knew before and never failed until now, is completely worthless. It seems less, "If I do this she'll have to want me," and more, "What does she want from me?"

Actually I take part of that back, 'cause even that summary seems more cynical than I think he's being right now. He's in a place he's never been his entire life, at least according to Dora's description of him (short version: always been the best and most successful at everything with almost no effort on his part). He doesn't know why things aren't working for him or what he's supposed to do to fix what he did to screw it all up. I wouldn't go so far as to call it being "out of his depth," just that he's at a loss, not only for what he has to do to get what he wants, but even about what he wants (thus "I think I'm in love with you" vs "I'm in love with you").
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Jul 2014, 12:35
Or it would give the power to the other person to decide if they can handle more big news or not. At the very least he could have asked what was wrong, instead of just going ahead with his self-centered revelation.  Because the conversation was all about Sven. Honestly to me it seems he's a victim of popular culture and media. Teenage 'get the girl' movies are set up like that all the time. Two people spend  an  hour plus run time dancing around each other, the guy suddenly realizes 'wait, she's really the one!' one more set of wacky hijinks and a heartfelt confession later, the guy gets the girl just in time for them to head off into the sunset/have one last musical dance number.

Sven needs this I think, to learn and grow. Something to not just fall into his lap without any real effort on his part. Or just not to happen the way he wants at all. Because that's what life is like.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tormuse on 11 Jul 2014, 12:45
I think the thing that gets me the most about this is that Sven's logic isn't even internally consistent.  He obviously thinks that what he has to say is important, as evidenced by the fact that he dragged Faye out of her workplace while she was working to say it and even goes on about how miserable this has made him, but then vehemently denies that it's a big deal.  Is this important to him or not?  Does he even know?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tormuse on 11 Jul 2014, 13:00
Sven needs this I think, to learn and grow. Something to not just fall into his lap without any real effort on his part. Or just not to happen the way he wants at all. Because that's what life is like.

Yes, and I think it goes a little beyond learning that he can't get everything easily.  He's in a situation where he may very well have to learn that some mistakes have permanent consequences.  He screwed up with Faye and now, most likely, there is nothing he can do to fix it so he can get with her again.  I can sympathize with that in that it's a painful lesson to learn,but he's going to have to smarten up a bit more than he's demonstrating in order to learn it.

Edit:  Sorry about the double post; I was sure 6 more people were going to post before I finished typing that.  :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 11 Jul 2014, 13:15
Regarding Sven and "nice guys:" given Sven's stated philosophy toward relationships and how he interacts with women, I don't think he feels deserving of/entitled to anything from Faye. It seems, to me, more likely that he's just not sure of what to do to win her over since his usual bag of tricks, which were pretty much all he knew before and never failed until now, is completely worthless. It seems less, "If I do this she'll have to want me," and more, "What does she want from me?"

Actually I take part of that back, 'cause even that summary seems more cynical than I think he's being right now. He's in a place he's never been his entire life, at least according to Dora's description of him (short version: always been the best and most successful at everything with almost no effort on his part). He doesn't know why things aren't working for him or what he's supposed to do to fix what he did to screw it all up. I wouldn't go so far as to call it being "out of his depth," just that he's at a loss, not only for what he has to do to get what he wants, but even about what he wants (thus "I think I'm in love with you" vs "I'm in love with you").

I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Noxx on 11 Jul 2014, 13:16
At the very least he could have asked what was wrong, instead of just going ahead with his self-centered revelation.

But he can't, because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.

It's pretty douchey. You can dress it up by saying things like "I just want to be honest about my feelings", but in the real world, telling someone you're not involved with that you love them is placing a ridiculous demand on them. "Oh I don't have any expectations, but I wanted you to know....". Horse Shit. All you're doing is placing someone else in an incredibly uncomfortable position by relieving your own personal conflict at their expense.

"Well, I feel better now that I told her". Yeah I bet you do, I bet you don't wonder if she feels better. Dick.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 11 Jul 2014, 13:38
Please don't use the word retard to mean someone who's just being an idiot - it has a medical meaning which isn't relevant here.

It's a quote from Tropic Thunder
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 11 Jul 2014, 13:59
still not okay to use.

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because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.

I don't think Sven is abusive. Selfish, maybe. But there is a big difference between someone who is abusive and someone who is selfish.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 11 Jul 2014, 14:24
I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.

When he emphasized his honesty, I don't think he meant "I told you the truth, now show me your vagina!".  Rather, I believe he meant "no, I'm not just jerking you around and playing mind games so you'll sleep with me, I actually am in love with you".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 11 Jul 2014, 15:22
still not okay to use.

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because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.

I don't think Sven is abusive. Selfish, maybe. But there is a big difference between someone who is abusive and someone who is selfish.
Agreed. I don't think we've really seen evidence to Sven even being all that self-obsessed. I mean, he gets stuff easily, but that's not self-importance. He has been fairly considerate of Dora's feelings (other than initially sleeping with Faye, but that was a) irrational of Dora and b) just as much on Faye), took Hanners out, talked to Marten about Dora, etc. I also don't think there's really evidence of him thinking this is more important than everything- in his own words, it's not a big deal.

I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.

When he emphasized his honesty, I don't think he meant "I told you the truth, now show me your vagina!".  Rather, I believe he meant "no, I'm not just jerking you around and playing mind games so you'll sleep with me, I actually am in love with you".
While I wouldn't take his wording that far, I really didn't mean I think he genuinely believed he was entitled. More he spoke in a way that put him in nice guy territory for a second, probably without thinking, and even if it was thinking, he had an 'oh, shit' moment after realizing. That's part of why I wouldn't take it that far; because I don't think he thought it through.

Of course, it is pretty culturally ingrained (movies!) that even if we ignore the nice guy thing, telling the truth = you HAVE to listen to me; it's okay to chase people down, grab their arm, and hold them still while you spit out the truth. Sven isn't going to do that (I hope), but I could see that being part of his 'hey, you can't tell me to fuck off...' moment
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 11 Jul 2014, 22:27
ITT: movies suck.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Jul 2014, 00:40
The thing about social behaviour being learned and culturally defined is that it means that people who are at base decent, kind, caring human beings are still going to mess up at times because they haven't learnt the appropriate or inappropriate approaches to specific situations. I do this all the time, and never maliciously - I say something and later on someone says "hey, did you realise that when you said
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 12 Jul 2014, 01:01
I don't think that Sven thinks that he's "entitled" to Faye, but he still *is* rather self-obsessed.  As has been pointed out elsethread, he's never had to work for anything, so relationships are rather alien for him.  Since he's the sort of person who ignores potential partners just 'cos he wants to read "History of the Crusades" and have a quiet drink is a decent demonstration that he isn't stupid.  He's just a bit slow when it comes to dealing with a lot of emotional shit.  He could probably make it as an *actual* musician rather than writing a bunch of shitty pop-country songs just 'cos it's easy, not to mention other things that he *could* do.  The boy is just out of his depth when it comes with dealing with difficulty.  And the change in his facial expressions in the last panels of the last comic kinda demonstrate that, as well as some ability to recognise it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Jul 2014, 01:25
I don't think he thinks he's entitled to Faye, but he is nonetheless acting as though he is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 12 Jul 2014, 05:02
This is as painful to watch as a sexually repressed fundie girl lusting after her gay boyfriend.
She's not sexually repressed, merely naive. If she were truly sexually repressed, then she'd be incapable of experiencing the concept of "lusting". Those feelings are there, they haven't been cauterised out.

But now we're crossing over, and unless Amazi-girl starts delivering pizza in QC, I think that's gone far enough.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2014, 05:21
We don't know that she doesn't :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Jul 2014, 05:23
Perhaps I don't understand the term repressed, but I always thought it meant that the feelings were squashed down but present. I see a distinction between sexually repressed and asexual.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2014, 05:29
Well that's the thing, if she's actively lusting, can she said to be repressing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Jul 2014, 05:32
Is she actively lusting, though, or lusting against her own will?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Jul 2014, 06:17
Is she actively lusting, though, or lusting against her own will?

Maybe her whole life is being retarded? (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0534740/quotes?item=qt0394030)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 12 Jul 2014, 08:18
OOh, you sure showed up those of us who object to using the word "retarded".

Man, my eyes are open now, who knew that it also meant slow or to slow down? damn, now I am so enlightened, I can just completely forget the TONS of other cultural baggage that come with using retarded. Hell, I'm going to use it all the time now, even when there are other EQUALLY SUITABLE words that don't carry that amount of offensiveness and baggage.

Seriously, why not just respect the people who ask for that word not to be used?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 12 Jul 2014, 09:16
Is she actively lusting, though, or lusting against her own will?

Wait, are we still talking about the simile? I thought Sven was the fundie and Faye was the gay boyfriend in this comparison?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Jul 2014, 09:33
I wasn't going for a person-to-person-comparison - merely saying that the ... cringeworthiness of watching the two situations unfold was comparable.

As for actively lusting or not: Judge (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/dark-room/) for (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/wean/) yourself (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/tonguing/).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Jul 2014, 15:22
Seriously, why not just respect the people who ask for that word not to be used?

Lemme guess....you also object to the use of the word "Fag" in relation to colloquialism cigarette slang and "Gay" when it means happiness.

Dude, you want people to stop using certain words in a negative light? HOWABOUT PROMOTE IT'S RIGHT USE LIKE I DID ABOVE?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Jul 2014, 15:36
There is no "right use" except in the deluded minds of nineteenth-century grammarians and their spiritual successors.  Usage is king, and if a usage is, for whatever reason, coming to be seen as offensive, then it is up to us to be sufficiently sensitive to this to recognise it and behave accordingly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Jul 2014, 15:48
I also wish to stress that I believe we had the discussion on usage of offensive words at least three times in the Discuss subforum and would ask to continue it there, if there's desire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roxtar on 12 Jul 2014, 17:55
one thing I've noticed about this forum is that it seems to have more than its fair share of "social justice warriors" (tm)
I suppose I'll similarly be lambasted if I tell the bulk of you to un-bunch your collective panties, grow some thicker skin, and realize that just because you're offended, doesn't mean your opinion has any more validity than the opinion of the person who offended you.

your baggage is precisely that... your baggage. Time to unpack it already.

Everything offends someone. If you're too weak minded to separate the intent of the speaker/poster from your "triggers" about certain words or topics, then good luck functioning in the real world.

trigger warning: misogyny (not really).

man the fuck up.

(moderator speaking: explanatory PM has been sent)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 12 Jul 2014, 18:00
Those preventions exist for very real reasons. Words have meanings, and words have effects. We are in many respects made of words. Sure, you may make the choice that yours will be hateful. But you may wish to consider what it tells about you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Jul 2014, 18:34
Everything offends someone.

Some things more than others.  We try to keep a nice establishment here, welcoming to all.  Making an honest attempt to not be offensive is part and parcel of the deal.  After all, we're guests in this house.  You can make a point without being offensive, and if you can't, maybe your point needs some re-evaluation. 

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If you're too weak minded to separate the intent of the speaker/poster from your "triggers" about certain words or topics, then good luck functioning in the real world.

This is a real as the real world.  The people here are not bots.  Try functioning here.  Oh, and read the "read me" threads, please. 

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man the fuck up.

We have, over many years.  Now it's your turn. 

Welcome to our forums - you'll like it here once you settle in! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 12 Jul 2014, 18:38
Personally I would like to turn the words fag and faggot as a colloquial terms for people in general.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Jul 2014, 21:23
un-bunch your collective panties, grow some thicker skin

This forum is moderated to enforce courtesy. This is not going to change.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 12 Jul 2014, 23:56
If you doubt that anything can offend someone:

http://notalwaysright.com/so-slow-it-hertz-part-2/30892

And no, I do not think that that is an excuse to use words like "retard".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 13 Jul 2014, 00:59
That has a distinctive ring of "fake" to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 13 Jul 2014, 01:04
I have no idea if this is right, but I'm getting the feeling that Sven might not actually be in love with Faye. He might think he is, but him and Faye haven't had much (any?) contact since he pissed her off.

I think maybe he is just getting to a point in his life where he isn't sure who he is. He just kind of drifted through life without having deeper connections. My memory is a little fuzzy at this point, but I'm going to guess that all of his casual encounters ended on his own terms. When Faye was the one who made the decision to end things it probably messed up his world a little because he was the one used to calling the shots.

Basically I think Sven is having some sort of crisis and wants to find a simple explanation for it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 13 Jul 2014, 01:19
I agree with this entirely.

Incidentally, welcome! Great first post  :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 13 Jul 2014, 02:58
Well this thread escalated quickly.

Anyway, Sven is an asshole, kinda always has been a bit of an asshole, and is showing himself to be one now. He is probably a product of his environment given his job but hey, that don't make you a non-asshole.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Jul 2014, 03:10
I suppose I'll similarly be lambasted if I tell the bulk of you to ... grow some thicker skin,
I'm trying.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10441084_10202864007814668_7118464772616898106_n.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 13 Jul 2014, 04:04
*standing ovation*

Anyone wanna make the new thread?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Jul 2014, 05:24
You can do it. :D

Poll suggestion: favorite guest strips of the past.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 13 Jul 2014, 05:36
one thing I've noticed about this forum is that it seems to have more than its fair share of "social justice warriors"
No, people around here just don't like neither "dipshittery", nor "asshattery". It's not being "politically correct" (and I really hate the sentiment behind that PC BS), it's being respectful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jul 2014, 06:00
one thing I've noticed about this forum is that it seems to have more than its fair share of "social justice warriors"

Is that bad?  Do you have an objection to social justice?  If you genuinely feel that, and want to try to persuade others, go to the Discuss! forum and start a discussion on it (but don't do it here).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Jul 2014, 06:28
Just to chime in a bit late... after being harassed, beaten, insulted, made to fear for my life and in general having to spend most of every day worrying about when and where the next attack will come from, I've got a pretty thick skin thanks. And I've had it far better than a lot of folks around here and know it. That doesn't mean we're just going to sit back and let insulting comments and the like pass by without comment. It's not about being politically correct, it's about calling out jerk behaviors and comments to make the world a better place, so maybe one day people don't have to suffer as much as we did because of attitudes like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Jul 2014, 12:10
one thing I've noticed about this forum is that it seems to have more than its fair share of "social justice warriors"
No, people around here just don't like neither "dipshittery", nor "asshattery". It's not being "politically correct" (and I really hate the sentiment behind that PC BS), it's being respectful.
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Jul 2014, 12:14
I have no idea if this is right, but I'm getting the feeling that Sven might not actually be in love with Faye. He might think he is, but him and Faye haven't had much (any?) contact since he pissed her off.
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Basically I think Sven is having some sort of crisis and wants to find a simple explanation for it.

Welcome, insightful new person!

Your point makes sense. Sven probably doesn't have the experience or awareness to understand whatever he's feeling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 13 Jul 2014, 12:24
Are they conservative values? Are they liberal values? Or are they perhaps just decent-human-beings values?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Jul 2014, 12:50
I go with 'decent human being values' myself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Jul 2014, 17:14
I go with 'decent human being values' myself.
Concur.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 13 Jul 2014, 18:09
Ditto.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tragic_pizza on 14 Jul 2014, 01:13
I'm a social justice warrior. Come at me bro.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 14 Jul 2014, 02:12
I'm a social justice warrior. Come at me bro.
Congrats Tragic Pizza, you get the honour of being my next sigquote :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tragic_pizza on 14 Jul 2014, 02:48
I am honored.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 14 Jul 2014, 14:41

"Threesomes are like communism. Good idea in theory, bad idea in practice." (I may have misremembered that quote.)

You got the quote right, I think that one was Dora's


Questions, comments, queries , problems, bitches, rude gestures and/or remarks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 14 Jul 2014, 14:43

I go with 'decent human being values' myself.

Concur


Questions, comments, queries , problems, bitches, rude gestures and/or remarks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 14 Jul 2014, 22:10
There are too many social justice warriors on this forum. Where are the social justice wizards, rogues and clerics?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Jul 2014, 22:16
Here.  More of a rogue than a cleric, though. 

Definitely not a wizard.  Not sure they exist...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 15 Jul 2014, 00:04
I'd be a social justice berserker, I guess..  I thrive on the blood and tears of whiny MRA's  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 15 Jul 2014, 00:06
Ooh, ooh, can I be a social justice dwarf ninja?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 15 Jul 2014, 00:08
If this forum had a shark, I think we just jumped it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Jul 2014, 00:11
But the Social Justice Druid has the shark dominated, so it's all under control.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jul 2014, 05:48
Would that make me an official Social Justice Witch then? Actually I think I have the name of my next superhero character...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Jul 2014, 05:53
Social Justice cleric is definitely May.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 15 Jul 2014, 06:25
Agreed.

Given their admin status, IICIH and Paul would have to be the DMs, right?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 15 Jul 2014, 07:30
Social Justice cleric is definitely May.

Cleric of Eris, maybe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Jul 2014, 08:10
I actually know a social justice cleric - he's a retired minister, and he'll tell you with great pride about how he got arrested at the Selma-to-Montgomery march in 1965.

Me, I'd be a social justice Vulcan science officer. Social injustice is highly illogical.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Jul 2014, 16:31
What am I? A Social Justice Swashbuckler?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jul 2014, 16:58
I have no idea what I am.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 15 Jul 2014, 18:07
I guess you are amnesic them
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jul 2014, 18:15
Wouldn't that mean I once knew but don't anymore?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Jul 2014, 18:39
I have no idea what I am.
You're methodical.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Jul 2014, 21:55
And mad.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Jul 2014, 00:06
So Lawful Evil?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 16 Jul 2014, 00:43
I always imagined Method would be Chaotic Good, tbh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tragic_pizza on 16 Jul 2014, 01:51
I would kind of qualify as a cleric...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 16 Jul 2014, 04:00
Social Justice Trackside Commentator here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jul 2014, 04:15
I always imagined Method would be Chaotic Good, tbh.
This post made my day :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Jul 2014, 07:14
I would qualify as What The Fuck Are We Talking About.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 16 Jul 2014, 07:29
I just loathe, I mean "love" how "Social Justice Warrior" or "PC" are thrown about as ad hominem attacks against people who only give a shit about being decent human beings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Jul 2014, 07:57
I can agree that it can be taken to a ridiculous degree at times, and have nothing against a person expressing themselves.  But there are derogatory terms that just aren't acceptable.  That lack of acceptability isn't as well known for some of the terms as for others, so some occasional education is to be expected.  And I know I can be treading on thin ice correcting some people - I prefer sneak attacks that involve humor, if you can find them. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 16 Jul 2014, 08:10
This is actually highly apropos to a discussion I had at the pub last night.  An older guy was outside whilst I was having a fag with a gay woman, and he was a little bit unsure of terminology (particularly the word "gay").  I pointed out that saying "x" person is gay is not a slur if used neutrally, but saying that "that is so gay" is a slur, and shouldn't generally be used.  Context and intent mean everything, and not everyone picks up on that easily.  The bloke I was talking to wasn't biased, just (self-admittedly) a bit ignorant of what sorts of things were bad to say, and what weren't.  And honestly, I prefer to deal with people who admit their ignorance, because they *know* they need to learn things, and are willing to do so.  There are several things I'm rather ignorant about, including a lot of trans* issues, but I'm willing to step up and admit it, and learn more, so I'm not such a dumb-fuck.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Jul 2014, 08:47
Ignorance is fine. It means you don't know something and can learn. It's when you know better and still are insulting that it becomes jerkish behavior (to put it lightly).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 16 Jul 2014, 09:09
It's just sometimes nice when they actually will own up to it and are willing to learn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Jul 2014, 09:37
I would qualify as What The Fuck Are We Talking About.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alignment_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons))

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Classes
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Jul 2014, 10:00
I can agree that it can be taken to a ridiculous degree at times

The scary thing is that trolls can and do use social justice as sheep's clothing so they can sneak in and wreak their destruction. The first time I read the term "Social Justice Warrior" it was used to describe such trolls.

One of the challenges of moderation is sorting honest passionate people complaining about things that don't make sense to me at first but which I'll understand after I learn about their experience, from people who are there to take over and ruin a conversation.

There are many people here in the first group. They have improved the forum. I think of them as DHBs and not SJWs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Jul 2014, 11:36
I think of them as DHBs and not SJWs.

A pox on your acronymic ways, sirrah! 


(yeah, it took me a moment..)   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Jul 2014, 14:38
One of the challenges of moderation is sorting honest passionate people complaining about things that don't make sense to me at first but which I'll understand after I learn about their experience, from people who are there to take over and ruin a conversation.

Or even to derail legitimate attempts towards social justice. I wouldn't be surprised if Tumblrisms like "bunself" are actually an attempt to discredit transgender identities or something.