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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3650 on: 04 Dec 2010, 17:59 »

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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3651 on: 04 Dec 2010, 18:15 »

that matrix thing. i am so angry i did not know about that yesterday that would have completed my existence.

also if anyone cares its a d major pentatonic scale.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3652 on: 04 Dec 2010, 19:12 »



I wish there was a way to export these to csv & import them later, or someshit.  This is a really cool little thing.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3653 on: 04 Dec 2010, 19:19 »

I also wish there was a way to either make them longer or stitch two together, because I want to try to make the meat of the intro to Aphex Twin's On
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3654 on: 04 Dec 2010, 19:23 »

Except that it's also in the wrong key.  Ah well.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3655 on: 04 Dec 2010, 19:28 »

That music thing is awesome. You can open it up in multiple windows and stack all of the music-y goodness together.

Edit: stacking them together doesn't really do as much as I'd thought at first, but it's still sort of useful for keeping everything organized.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3656 on: 04 Dec 2010, 19:59 »


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« Reply #3657 on: 04 Dec 2010, 20:02 »

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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3659 on: 05 Dec 2010, 02:36 »


I'm really proud of this. Like..a lot.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3660 on: 05 Dec 2010, 06:36 »

Man comet is just damned creepy.

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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3661 on: 05 Dec 2010, 09:40 »

Hey you jerks, get yr actual music theory out of our enthusiastic amateur thread. Jerks.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3662 on: 05 Dec 2010, 10:51 »

Map of Metal

Ok, the map is pretty cool, but some genres and bands are really misplaced. For example how is Ocean Planet by Gojira remotely Tech Death, It's fucking Groove Metal. Also no Djent? How are Meshuggah even Death Metal?

I did enjoy it though, honestly.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3663 on: 05 Dec 2010, 11:23 »

Djent isn't a real thing, and I'd easily consider Gojira tech death.
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« Reply #3664 on: 05 Dec 2010, 11:29 »

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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3665 on: 05 Dec 2010, 11:36 »

Djent isn't a real thing, and I'd easily consider Gojira tech death.

How? They're like the least techinical band in Metal. I love the band, but they ain't noting like actual tech death, like Atheist, Necrophagist or Viraemia. You know, (sometimes unnecessarily) techy. Also Djent is just a silly word for proggy mathmetally stuff but It's at least as fucking popular as fucking Trance Metal, right?
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3666 on: 05 Dec 2010, 13:29 »

Well yeah I guess if some of the other genres on there deserved a guernsey then I guess djent might as well be on there as well. How old is this thing, though? It's been getting heat around the place lately but it might've been around for a while. Djent as a non-obscure term is like, a year old, tops.

And Gojira? Not technical? Really? I mean, they don't fit perfectly in the genre, but they don't really fit in anything that well. They have elements of a lot of stuff.

EDIT: Actually I've got Gojira in my iTunes Library as "Progressive Death Metal" which makes a little bit more sense. I guess when you consider tech-death as something like Cryptopsy or Atheist, the comparison doesn't make any sense. I mean, they're technical, but not in the same way that a band like Atheist is.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3667 on: 05 Dec 2010, 14:06 »

Facebook Cartoons End Child Abuse

A friend of mine, annoyed by the emptiness of the gesture, posted this:
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3668 on: 05 Dec 2010, 14:39 »

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« Reply #3669 on: 05 Dec 2010, 14:57 »

A friend of mine, annoyed by the emptiness of the gesture, posted this:
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Lets really do something for child abuse awareness: This week, change your profile picture to a child that died as a result of child abuse, post this as your status, and make the first status comment the story of abuse.

Then followed through and did just that.

If half the people on my friends list were people I either work with, or are too emotional, I would totally do that. Did anyone else go along with it?
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3670 on: 05 Dec 2010, 15:17 »

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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3671 on: 05 Dec 2010, 15:51 »

You're welcome. Gojira are fucking fantastic, and apparently are one of the best live bands going in metal today (I wouldn't know from first-hand experience :c)

EDIT: And they also have a Sea Shepherd boat named after them!
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« Reply #3672 on: 05 Dec 2010, 16:06 »

They're coming out with a new EP sometime called the Sea Shepard, recording began just last month.  Even though it was first announced back in April.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3673 on: 05 Dec 2010, 18:17 »

I can also put a vote towards Necrophagist if you haven't looked there already.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3674 on: 05 Dec 2010, 18:27 »

I can also put a vote towards Necrophagist if you haven't looked there already.

So good  :-o. The description says it's tech death, is this true?
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3675 on: 05 Dec 2010, 20:46 »

 I don't really understand why everyone is hating on the whole Facebook Cartoon character thing. Are we not supposed to bring about awareness on a subject unless it is guaranteed to succeed completely? I don't see why people would mock something that is intended to be nothing but good, and doesn't inconvenience anyone in any way. It is pretty mean-spirited to mock people for not liking that child abuse happens.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3676 on: 05 Dec 2010, 20:49 »

I kind of wonder if I'm doing it right now on my facebook, I just though it was Pokemon month  :psyduck:
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3677 on: 05 Dec 2010, 20:52 »

Well, one of my friends said something to the effect of "Gee, it's great that I can get a sense of self-satisfaction by doing this even though I'm not really doing anything at all!" and I can understand the viewpoint. I'm definitely not against it though, cause while it probably isn't helping much, it's definitely not hurting the cause.

I like it mostly cause it gives me an excuse to have my picture be Dag from Angry Beavers.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3678 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:18 »

I don't really understand why everyone is hating on the whole Facebook Cartoon character thing.

I kind of wonder if I'm doing it right now on my facebook, I just though it was Pokemon month  :psyduck:

This is the problem I have with it.  Why do we assume people will know why the hell we have pokemon as our profile pics?  How is this bringing about awareness?
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3679 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:20 »

Well I think the pokemon one is just for fun.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3680 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:25 »

 The thing that really gets to me are the people that are like "Oh, well I donated to a child abuse relief fund" "Oh, well you should do this instead, it is much more likely to work".

 Go you. Way to not be the same as the people who are "just doing it for self-satisfaction", although you are doing just that.

 And might I just say, would these naysayers be donating to a child abuse awareness fund or posting pictures of child abuse victims on any given day, had this trend not spread? I somehow doubt it.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3681 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:42 »

Go you. Way to not be the same as the people who are "just doing it for self-satisfaction", although you are doing just that.

That is utterly irrelevant. If people want to go ahead and feel proud of contributing, let them, I say. The fault isn't in being proud of yourself. The fault is in being proud of yourself when you have, in fact, done very little at all. It breeds complacency.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3682 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:44 »

Hey now, I'm detecting a point to this conversation.



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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3683 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:48 »

I actually seem to recall reading an article discussing whether the increased viability of armchair activism (due to Facebook and Twitter and the like) had in fact resulted in a diminishing number of people contributing to actual activism- basically, the article generalized that people who might otherwise be contributing time or money to an actual effort are now clicking "like" on a Facebook page and being satisfied with their work- especially because their actions are so much more visible. Certainly this is an overgeneralization, and I can't remember if there were any actual statistics backing up the argument (which means there probably weren't), but for an issue such as child abuse I'd guess most people are already aware of the problem. Something like the 2008 Iran election crisis definitely benefited from the increased visibility on Twitter and Facebook but with this campaign there probably isn't anyone saying "Oh god, I just saw a cartoon character and now I know there are children being abused! I'd better donate to a cause!"

What it boils down to (as it seems to me) is everyone already knows most people are against beating kids, but now someone who might have donated $20 to the Children's Protection and Advocacy Coalition will now feel like they already did their part by changing their profile picture. If that's even just one person, the profile picture campaign had a net detrimental effect.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3684 on: 05 Dec 2010, 21:59 »

Personally, I don't really worry about it that much or even think that this li'l facebook thing is really breeding complacency. But I do think that people should perhaps learn to sack up a bit if they can't handle the suggestion that they could perhaps do more than sport charmander for a week if they really care about the issue.
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« Reply #3685 on: 05 Dec 2010, 22:02 »

 In my view, the point was to inspire people to do just that; donate to a cause, talk to politicians, whatever. I didn't view it as a way for people to feel good about themselves BECAUSE they promoted awareness; I viewed it as actually promoting awareness and inspiring people to give to causes or do something else to help.

 And Alex C, no. It isn't okay for someone to get all self-righteous when normally they would have done NOTHING. That is exactly what these self-righteous people who brag about how forward-thinking they are would have done had the Facebook cartoon trend not come about; NOTHING.

 While you are absolutely right in thinking that people should not be bothered by the suggestion that they give more to a cause than simply spread knowledge about it, people ALSO need to remember that not everybody thinks the same way. Believe it or not, there are people who want to do good, but can't find the time or money to do so.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3686 on: 05 Dec 2010, 22:08 »

You know that charities spend something like $800 billion dollars a year in the US alone, right? They didn't just pull that money out of their assholes. People were doing shit about things before facebook came along.
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« Reply #3687 on: 05 Dec 2010, 22:10 »

I'm aware. However, the people who got on Paypal and donated a dollar because they thought the Facebook thing was "stupid" and wanted to wise-ass on everyone are not on the same level.
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« Reply #3688 on: 05 Dec 2010, 22:17 »

I guess you can go on feeling that way while I'll go on believing that it's important that the dollar got donated.
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« Reply #3689 on: 05 Dec 2010, 22:22 »

 It is obviously important that it got donated, I just want it to be known that those that did not donate a dollar and instead showed genuine concern and did what they thought was the best they could to help are not worthless, which seems to be the popular opinion.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3690 on: 05 Dec 2010, 23:00 »

I actually seem to recall reading an article discussing whether the increased viability of armchair activism (due to Facebook and Twitter and the like) had in fact resulted in a diminishing number of people contributing to actual activism- basically, the article generalized that people who might otherwise be contributing time or money to an actual effort are now clicking "like" on a Facebook page and being satisfied with their work- especially because their actions are so much more visible. Certainly this is an overgeneralization, and I can't remember if there were any actual statistics backing up the argument (which means there probably weren't), but for an issue such as child abuse I'd guess most people are already aware of the problem. Something like the 2008 Iran election crisis definitely benefited from the increased visibility on Twitter and Facebook but with this campaign there probably isn't anyone saying "Oh god, I just saw a cartoon character and now I know there are children being abused! I'd better donate to a cause!"

I was just reading a recent study on this yesterday.  The study (full text available here) found that when people had made a decision they considered "ethical," they were able to justify later unethical decisions.  The authors call it "compensatory ethics."
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3691 on: 05 Dec 2010, 23:09 »

Oh god, a bunch of has-been celebrities embarrassing themselves singing "Let It Be"
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3692 on: 05 Dec 2010, 23:44 »

Hey! Steve Guttenberg! I haven't seen him since he diddled some kids on Veronica Mars.

Man, I bet Glenn Close is happy to be between such major cultural figures as Tonya Harding and David Faustino.
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« Reply #3693 on: 05 Dec 2010, 23:51 »

That video would have been infinitely improved by giving Dolph Lundgren a machine gun and letting his instincts take over.
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« Reply #3695 on: 06 Dec 2010, 00:15 »

Man that milk is going to get everywhere.
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« Reply #3696 on: 06 Dec 2010, 01:35 »

Dude, that's Mork
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« Reply #3697 on: 06 Dec 2010, 02:38 »

I can also put a vote towards Necrophagist if you haven't looked there already.

The big thing that makes me like Gojira and not like these guys are the vocals. The changeless, toneless drone of his voice just seems... boring to me.

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« Reply #3698 on: 06 Dec 2010, 04:39 »

Oh god, a bunch of has-been celebrities embarrassing themselves singing "Let It Be"
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i like jason alexander the best because he seems to understand that this is hilarious/ridiculous. and also bud spencer - "spaghetti western filmer". he does not look like he knows why he is there. okay nope this just gets better and better.
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Re: Re: POINTLESS THREAD IIb: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN
« Reply #3699 on: 06 Dec 2010, 05:29 »

If people want to go ahead and feel proud of contributing, let them, I say. The fault isn't in being proud of yourself. The fault is in being proud of yourself when you have, in fact, done very little at all. It breeds complacency.

"Complacency" isn't the word I would use, but I can't remember off the top of my head the word I want. Isn't there a word for "unearned self-esteem"?
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