Topic: Great bands you don't care for? (Read 86888 times)

KharBevNor · « **Reply #200 on:** 22 Dec 2006, 21:26 »

And what is the actual reason why a virtuoso jazz musician is superior to a virtuoso rock or metal musician? That makes so little sense its astounding!

camelpimp · « **Reply #201 on:** 22 Dec 2006, 23:18 »

I imagine that the STYLE of music that you are a virtuso at makes a difference, since being a virtuso rock musician has different requirements than being a virtuso jazz musician.

But I don't listen to jazz, and I think I'm more into the "punk" school of music, so that means nothing to me anyway....

Ernest · « **Reply #202 on:** 22 Dec 2006, 23:32 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 22 Dec 2006, 21:26

And what is the actual reason why a virtuoso jazz musician is superior to a virtuoso rock or metal musician? That makes so little sense its astounding!

I dunno, Khar. What I do know is that jazz drummers tend to kick the shit out of every other type of drummer.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #203 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 02:20 »

I have really got to hear some of this jazz everyone keeps crowing on about being so amazing.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #204 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 03:23 »

Those samples kinda remind me of the music for transport tycoon. The second one in particular is quite impressive, but it seems really directionless, kind of an examplar of the criticism often levelled at metal virtuosity.

Ernest · « **Reply #205 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 04:42 »

Johnny C · « **Reply #206 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 04:53 »

I would like to be known as a songwriting virtuoso above anything else.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #207 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 04:56 »

I'm just saying it seems pretty weak and boring compared to this.

I just youtubed Miles Davis, and he seems to have more promise, I will track down some more stuff.

Kai · « **Reply #208 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 05:48 »

Wait

YOu've never listened to Miles Davis?

I thought everyone had heart Kind of Blue

Hat · « **Reply #209 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 05:58 »

How the hell are you suposed to pretend you know something about Jazz music if you haven't heard Kind of Blue?!?

Ernest · « **Reply #210 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 06:01 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Dec 2006, 04:56

I'm just saying it seems pretty weak and boring compared to this.

I hope that's a joke.

Hat · « **Reply #211 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 06:35 »

"I actually can't think of anything bad to say about Judas Priest."

There is a good reason for this.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #212 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 06:52 »

Quote from: Hat on 23 Dec 2006, 05:58

How the hell are you suposed to pretend you know something about Jazz music if you haven't heard Kind of Blue?!?

I don't pretend to know anything about jazz. Pretty much the only things I listen to that have anything remotely to do with jazz whatsoever are Ephel Duath, Bohren and the Club of Gore and Coil's 'Horse Rotorvator'.

And none of those, as I'm sure you will know, are really jazz.

Johnny C · « **Reply #213 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 07:05 »

Quote from: tommydski on 23 Dec 2006, 06:18

So good. That's the best video ever made.

Sadly it is well-documented that you are incorrect.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #214 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 07:16 »

You are both wrong.

Johnny C · « **Reply #215 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 07:39 »

I don't know what's going on at any point in that video. It's more baffling than Yar's Revenge.

Murray Head makes not only the general locale and plot clear, but he also declares where he likes to get his kicks.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #216 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 08:10 »

Pure fucking sex is what is going on.

Ernest · « **Reply #217 on:** 23 Dec 2006, 09:26 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Dec 2006, 08:10

fucking sex

Redundant.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #218 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 06:18 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 23 Dec 2006, 04:56

I'm just saying it seems pretty weak and boring compared to this.

You think John Coltrane is weak and boring compared to Judas Priest?? I just want to be absolutely clear that's what you're trying to say here, because if it is, I'm never going to bother to try to debate you on the subject of music ever again.

Ernest · « **Reply #219 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 06:20 »

I think this thread has run its course.

Ernest · « **Reply #220 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 06:26 »

I don't think you honestly believe that this is close. You said yourself that Coltrane is the only artist who you listen to every day.

Johnny C · « **Reply #221 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 06:40 »

Not only does he jump into the bank, he successfully steals his own gold record armed only with the power of rock.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #222 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 07:59 »

GLENN TIPTON AND K.K DOWNING OPENED A SAFE WITH POWER CHORDS

KharBevNor · « **Reply #223 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 08:45 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 24 Dec 2006, 06:18

You think John Coltrane is weak and boring compared to Judas Priest??

The two thirty second samples I heard, yes. They lacked energy, and they also lacked atmosphere. That leaves nothing but a mathematical arrangement of notes for me, and I have dyscalculia.

Ernest · « **Reply #224 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 09:11 »

Energy? Jazz is the original stoner music.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #225 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 09:15 »

so where's the atmosphere?

If it ain't got energy or atmosphere, what has it got?

Ernest · « **Reply #226 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 09:28 »

Rocket surgery.

camelpimp · « **Reply #227 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 09:34 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 24 Dec 2006, 08:45

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 24 Dec 2006, 06:18
You think John Coltrane is weak and boring compared to Judas Priest??

The two thirty second samples I heard, yes. They lacked energy, and they also lacked atmosphere. That leaves nothing but a mathematical arrangement of notes for me, and I have dyscalculia.

I'm certain I'm taking your (I'm certain) flippancy entirely too seriously, but let me be the first to say it: Are you judging John Coltrane from 30 second samples?

KharBevNor · « **Reply #228 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 09:37 »

What else am I gonna judge him by? The samples on wikipedia, presumbably encoded by some fan who wanted to encapsulate two of his greatest and most iconic moments, left me colder than a polar bears cock, no way I'm buying an album, I've got a list of awesome shit I need as long as my arm. Maybe a download, but it still ain't a priority.

Johnny C · « **Reply #229 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 13:30 »

Quote from: David_Dovey on 24 Dec 2006, 07:59

GLENN TIPTON AND K.K DOWNING OPENED A SAFE WITH POWER CHORDS

I love how they have a big banner with the word "BANK" on it in the background like we couldn't tell.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #230 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 20:20 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 24 Dec 2006, 09:37

What else am I gonna judge him by? The samples on wikipedia, presumbably encoded by some fan who wanted to encapsulate two of his greatest and most iconic moments, left me colder than a polar bears cock, no way I'm buying an album, I've got a list of awesome shit I need as long as my arm. Maybe a download, but it still ain't a priority.

OK, I'm never going to bother arguing on the topic of music with you anymore. If you aren't willing to give John Coltrane an honest chance, then forget it.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #231 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 21:41 »

If I gave any musician in the world an honest chance, I'd never have the time to listen to all the music I actually like. If I look in to a musician and see nothing that interests me, why do I have to give them an honest chance? To satisfy your definition of musical taste? Fuck off.

Der Golem · « **Reply #232 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 22:11 »

Khar, his music is really something that takes longer than thirty seconds to impress, it has to build up to a crescendo to really amaze. This performance is what origanally got me to check him out; http://youtube.com/watch?v=q6WwuxqXPOg so i reccomend that if you want to give him a fair chance. Then again, you don't really have to, but I certainly didn't regret the seven minutes.

Ernest · « **Reply #233 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 22:35 »

I caught a ska beat on the drums somewhere around the 6-6:30 minute mark.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #234 on:** 24 Dec 2006, 22:56 »

There's actually some pretty good moments in that, I agree, the crescendos are good, that kind of thing can actually sustain me through a song. If thats a common feature of this stuff, then thats good. I still thought the song didn't really get good until two minutes in, the piano was kind of shit at the start and the sax veered off somewhat at the end, but I'll admit, not a bad tune at all, it held my interest even though I still kind of felt it lacked some...something. Waaaay better than most of the bouncy upbeat jazz I've ever heard, which has always struck me as pretty shit.

Der Golem · « **Reply #235 on:** 25 Dec 2006, 09:24 »

Yeah, I go for free and/or depressing jazz. Makes for good moping music. Bebop and and fast, upbeat jazz is not my thing at all.

Fuck you, new page.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #236 on:** 25 Dec 2006, 21:02 »

Elvin Jones is easily the best drummer I've ever heard. When paired with Coltrane, as he often was, the combination is unbeatable.

Shadow of the Sun · « **Reply #237 on:** 25 Dec 2006, 23:25 »

I love Jazz fusion- the technical skill of the musicians is just incredible.

If you can, get your hands on some stuff by Al DiMeola and Shawn Lane. Two best guitarists I have ever heard.

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #238 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 07:22 »

Quote from: Dimmukane on 14 Dec 2006, 10:50

Dream Theatre. James Labrie can go fuck a snail or something. I can't fucking stand his voice. That being said, I don't mind their instrumental tracks as much, but I can't figure out why...

Dream Theater. They're Californian, not British. But I stand with you on that! James LaBrie should be fucking shot. And the rest of the band should be disbanded. They are all almost RIDICULOUSLY talented, technically speaking, yet they can't write one decent fucking song.

Anyway, that's not important. Sonata Arctica is a great band, and I can't stand them.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #239 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 07:45 »

They're from Long Island, dude. The theater their name came from was in California.

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #240 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 07:54 »

Thanks to wikipedia, we're both wrong. They're from Massachusetts.

I thought they formed at Berkley, not Berklee. One letter difference, completely different side of the continent. How do you like that shit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_theater

Storm Rider · « **Reply #241 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 08:00 »

The band formed at Berklee, but the 3 core members (Petrucci, Portnoy, and Myung) all grew up together in New York. So I suppose you could look at it either way.

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #242 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 08:05 »

I'll submit to your clearly superior knowledge of DT, as I only skimmed the top of that wiki. Man! If that's the case, they should have never gone to Berklee. Portnoy and Petrucci are a force by themselves, if either of them can take their hands out of their pants long enough to play a song.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #243 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 08:08 »

As opposed to Tool?

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #244 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 08:59 »

LOL, yes as opposed to Tool.

This is an argument I'm prepared to go through QUITE thoroughly, just so you know what you're getting into.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #245 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 09:30 »

Fair enough.

I would win anyway.

Hat · « **Reply #246 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 10:48 »

Boy we ALL dodged a fucking bullet there, huh?

NiMRoD420 · « **Reply #247 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 12:04 »

You two are just too cool for school, I see.

What's wrong with Tool then? Is it the filler tracks? Let me take a stab at it. Oh, is Maynard not a good singer? Or maybe the lyrics are pretensious and - oh yes I've heard it before gasp - pseudo intellectual? The guitar is simple too, right? And they're commercial and fake, as well.

Storm Rider · « **Reply #248 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 12:07 »

Well uh... all of those things are... true.

So, I guess I'm going to have to agree!

Hat · « **Reply #249 on:** 27 Dec 2006, 13:38 »

I would not go around making assumptions about whether or not people are Tool fans simply because they are making snide remarks in your direction. I am a massive Tool fan, its just in this thread I have absolutely no idea what the point you're trying to make is. I'm not sure what to think of you Nimrod, half your posts are reasonable, and at least a decent attempt at contributing and the other half are just painful shit.

I guess this may be considered a "trial run" trying to figure out how not to be ridiculed here or something, in which case, good luck.

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